Nahom in The Book of Mormon

[haile141]

My Name is Nahom seriously !

[majinish]

One of the many finds backing the Book of Mormon. Nahom wasn't even found until 1994. Joseph Smith had no way of knowing about this place let alone knowing it being a burial ground. It's only spelled currently as "Nehem" because it was found "NHM" and so it would look like it should be pronounced "Nehem".

[omiolo]

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[omiolo]

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[omiolo]

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[ChildePC]

Oh here's my issue if nahom existed why was there's no mention of other people there.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@ChildePC It doesn't matter. Nahom does exist exactly where the Book of Mormon said it would be.

[ChildePC]

@ChildePC Yes, but for me its like stating the mosco or bizmark or prague is in united states. All 3 are but there else where too. Nahom could have been in china or africa or even austrial we just don't look there. So defining a place is not enough. Now I do like the bountiful idea considering ever other thing is there medal, trees, gold and so much more. what I am getting at is MORE needs to have been said about nahom for me to believe thats the spot. IF YOU FIND SARAH, we can to a dna test...

[ChildePC]

@ChildePC And redo the dna test that basically sank the history to the book of mormon people.

[mikeedro]

Got any Hugh Nibly? thanks

[fairldsorg]

@mikeedro No Nibley. Because of copyright issues, we have not uploaded any of his material. But, if you do a search for "Hugh Nibley", there are quite a few videos that pop up.

[THELDSLIFE]

You have a broken link in the video description here for a book no longer findable.

[fairldsorg]

@THELDSLIFE Fixed it. Thank you.

[omiolo]

In a January 2010 address to young members throughout the world, Elder M. Russell Ballard of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles noted, “In many ways you are like the pioneers … except in your journey you face new and challenging circumstances

[ChildePC]

@omiolo In reality, I think we should abandon the pioneer tradition and finally realise the church is a world wide event. We are dangerously close to become Exactly like our jewish cousins. Which do believe their religion only belongs to them. In reality, And I can speak from experience that mormonism is a nearly zenophobic religion. They as individuals don't preach and are also willing to excommunicate those who do.

[omiolo]

@ChildePC "the pioneer tradition"

I am NOT sure what that exactly entails to you, do you care to elaborate?

[malconius]

Those who discount a record of interaction between Lehis family and other locals, forget that the first 116 pages of Lehis record was lost, and that what we have is an abridgement of Lehis account, Not the details record.

[omiolo]

As Hugh Nibley pointed out, these verses also give us an excellent example of ancient Arabic poetry. Nibley quotes one non-LDS scholar who has studied Arabic poetry and claims that the earliest desert poems mention the discovery of fresh water in the context of traveling on a long journey. Nibley quotes another non-LDS expert who says that when the Arabs discovered fresh water they would create songs of praise for the "continuous and flowing rain," that filled the wadi (dry water beds).

[tharabaish]

شيق للغاية ..

Interesting and all the respect to the Mormon faith.

[ChildePC]

@tharabaish I know you heard about people who would copy the koran because of its beauty. I read the koran through to the end of the second book. The similarity of who is truthful and who is not is in both books if laid side by side. it has the same flavor if that the word for it.

[ChildePC]

Here is my issue with this. WE KNOW, That there are other israelites in saudi arbia. Yet, nephi never mentions them once. Nor is there any mention of any people ever seen or encountered. It becomes a long boring trail to bountiful. You can't tell me that they hide along the way, and avoideds trading. IT'S IMMPOSSIBLE.

[fairldsorg]

@ChildePC I believe there was plenty of contact between the Lehites and others in Arabia, as well as others in the New World. But The Book of Mormon is a spiritual record to bring people closer to Christ, and does not always contain little bits of information that they may have seemed to be obvious.

[ChildePC]

@fairldsorg I tend to be ridged in my reading of things. I am sorry I can't accept personal beliefs as a evidence. Either it happened or it didn't. The story nephi tells never shares that history. Infact, the church to this day is wishy washy about where bountiful actually was. The sini, arbia, and even asia are all possible lunch points. Although I think more could be told if we found the landing spot which is also confusing because chili michigan and mesoamerica are those landing points.

[MuzzleBlast357]

Yes, there was no reason to mention them. If Lehi and his sons did preach to the people there, it might be mentioned in the fuller account, or it may not. It really didn't have anything to do with the overall record. No one knew Nahom was a burial site until 1996, and that's an incredible fact in favor of the Book of Mormon.

[justafrinian]

@ChildePC Nephi wrote about this part of their journey after they made it to the Americas. It's very likely that he didn't include that in his record.

[ChildePC]

@justafrinian Its been awhile since I posted here. I actually considered the matter closed. If I confront this evidence, in single hand all it will do is add more to a peer review. So I will state instead, "reguardless of this evidence, The genetic information of modern indians support 4 groups of mongollians who crossed at the bearring straight. Furthermore, This group has no connection to abramham at all which WE DO HAVE as a bases of genetic profile. Abraham is buried in israel.

[justafrinian]

@ChildePC Good luck using a genetic sampling from less than the remaining 40% of the native American population (you've maybe heard that over 60% of the original native American population died out when the Spanish arrived? from disease and war?) looking for a genetic marker that only 4% of the Jewish population have that Lehi and his family do not have to try to prove that the Native Americans don't have some Jewish blood. Sounds like someone should check their "science"

[justafrinian]

@ChildePC youtube.com/watch?v=rlvbbZASUd­A

[TheOptimusprime9]

@ChildePC THELDSLIFE is right man, Nephi also wrote a secular history, I'd bet he included encounters like that there, but the secular history is not what was translated.

[ChildePC]

@TheOptimusprime9 Okay so your answer to me is to conjecture rather than point out legitmate facts. YOU NEVER READ THAT, neither did I but it must be there. WHAT? I know for a fact jews were in that area. HISTORY RECORDS THEM BEING THERE. But theres no mention of adding to the crew, no new trade with some group, and not even a local revival of a prophet preaching to his people. WHAT? Your graspin at hairs.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@ChildePC lol "WHAT?" So your answer to me is that you expect a complete secular history from Nephi's account in the Book of Mormon even though Nephi explicitly states that he wrote his secular history in one record (which Joseph Smith never tranlated) and his religious account in another (which is what we have in the Book of Mormon)? "WHAT?" now who's grasping at hairs? "WHAT?" lol throw a baby fit if you want, but it doesn't diminish Nahom as evidence for the BoM in the least.

[ChildePC]

@TheOptimusprime9 Actually, Any idiot can pull a name off a map and put in a book and suggest nephi past by this. Its not good enough. Id be more amazed if he left a gold plate buried in the dirt saying I NEPHI WAS HERE.

As for the secular record, we have only the words of his scribe and joseph smith jr that it was written at all. WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO IT IS CONJECTURE THAT IT EXISTED.

[TheOptimusprime9]

@ChildePC You obviously don't understand why Nahom presents itself as hard evidence for the Book of Mormon. The point is that Nahom wasn't discovered until the1990's, making it impossible for Joseph Smith to pull a name off a map and put it in the Book of Mormon. The fact that the Book of Mormon stated that there was a place called Nahom in that area *over 150 years* before it was ever discovered is about as good a bullseye as anyone could ask for. Know what your talking about next time k?

[ChildePC]

@TheOptimusprime9 It really not an origninal name either. It is a biblical name I have come across before so NO its not hard evidence. There is much more interesting relavent stuff out there. It is a threat only in a spoll of other threads.

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[omiolo]

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[omiolo]

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[omiolo]

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[amfiringmahlazer]

the book of mormon is true and there's nothing the critics can do.

[Tobsy1981]

You're right except for the fact that it's not.There is no evidence for any of the nonsense in the b.o.m and no historian,archaeologist,anthro­pologist,linguist or 4th grader with a basic understanding of precolumbian North America takes it seriously.

[jinheneamerican]

Funny, you don't fit into any of those categories. Try watching the video, friend. You may learn a lot.

[omiolo]

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[oncom2008]

You guys have nade my eyes wet.

I am so thankful for Joseph Smith and the restored church.

[Scar9face9]

Very impressive evidence.

[Tobsy1981]

You don't seem to understand what the word evidence means.

[Bazza4life]

I love it how on most lds related videos on you tube there are anti comments, doesnt seem to be many here. interesting seeing its such hard hitting proof of the BOM

[MuzzleBlast357]

A lot of Christians have had life after life experiences where they were either told or were led to believe, that they had a previous existence before Earth. Mormons, as far as I know, are the only ones who teach this as part of their doctrine. This Nahom thing is significant not only because it exists, but because until 1996, no one knew it was a burial site. It's a direct hit for the Book of Mormon and is impressive.

[TrueSaintsLDS]

There is no way Joseph Smith could have known Geography in his day like this either. Khor Rori of Oman is the only green spot on the entire Saudi Arabian peninsula, and not to mention is almost directly east of NHM (Nahum). Khor Rori also has natural fruits and the honeycomb from bees is still found there today. Another direct hit for the BoM!

Great video FAIR.

[RainingSilver]

It was beyond Joseph Smith's capabilities to write/make up the Book of Mormon period.

He was not educated.

[RainingSilver]

Or rather, he had very little education.

[iloveabbie12]

@MuzzleBlast357 guys the general authorities has told you for hundred of years that there is not archeaology for the book of mormon, what wrong with you , you keep mesing up church history stop lying

[neurodoc45]

as a catholic boy of 8, I had a personal revelation from God that I lived before I was created in the flesh....I testify this to be true....at 14, I concluded Catholicism & Protestantism were man made and not of God.....and became a quasi atheist.....but I never forgot the pre-mortal life revelation....at 20 Mormon Elders found me....when they taught me the first vision and the pre mortal life...immediately I knew Joseph was a prophet because I experienced revelation validating his teachings

[AcademicTheologian]

I have a similar story, but it was I thought the Godhead were three separate persons and both the Father and the Son looked like men in a glorified state.

[Wearycollegestudent]

I remember they showed this on BYU TV once. Awesome show. Wish I hadn't deleated it off my DVR.

[glycoboy]

buy it. support this type of research... the entire dvd is even better than you could imagine. i love this dvd. and the follow up dvd, "journey of faith new world"

[gottakeepitreal1]

what is the name of this dvd?

[fairldsorg]

It is called "Journey of Faith" and is produced by the Neal A. Maxwell Institute. You can learn more at the upper right of this page.

[TrueChurchLDS]

Men are in the habit, when the truth is exhibited by the servants of God, of saying, All is mystery; they have spoken in parables, and, therefore, are not to be understood. It is true they have eyes to see, and see not, but none are so blind as those who will not see.

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[TrueChurchLDS]

I bought this DVD

[MassiveFaith]

This is very interesting non-Christian fiction.

[Rommelator]

I disagree that it is fiction. But hey, we each get our opinions. Isn't that the most wonder thing about Free Agency?

[archaeologyprof]

The remainder of this video is also informative as NHM is not the only spot described in the BoM that can be identified on the Arabian Peninsula.

[garrettedmondson]

great video!

Google

"Journal of Book of Mormon Studies Volume 15 Issue Number 2"

for more information

[Kolohe86786876786786]

Is the vowel thing the thing critics can come up with? What about its relation to dhofar(its landscape and shipbuilding) and jerusalem, JUST AS THE BoM DESCRIBES IT? Some critics say Joseph or one of his associates "might" ave had access to maps of arabia, they never say who or when. Even if that was so, why is it then that mormon knowledge of Lehi's trail was lost until after the 1950's?!?! Hello?! No one mentioned because no one, not Joseph or his friends, knew.

[daemo28]

hola amigo soy peruano y comparto tu idea, pero si lo que tu dices es una forma de explicar lo falso de smith, crees que las imagenes en el video concuerdan en la realidad ? osea realmente estaran en arabia saudita ? o simplemente una excusa o conspiracion para dar validez al libro del mormon? ya sabes que el mormon es el maestro de la excusa, gracias

[TheBackyardProfessor]

I just watched this entire DVD and read the book today! Absolutely FABULOUS! This is seriously significant, and I gained enormous more insight into the BofM journey of Lehi and Nephi! STUNNING. There IS an archaeology and geography of the BofM. WE HAVE FOUND IT.

[Kolohe86786876786786]

You silly Marmons, lol. Don't you know that Nehem ain't Nahom. Is like when one of them muslim boys told me about the Quran, he tried to tell me that it speaks of biblical prophets. I said: "now look here buddy,Musa aint Moshe(Moses),Nuh aint Noach(Noah),Isa ain't Yeshua(Jesus), Yusuf ain't Yosef(Joseph)and Ibrahim ain't Abraham". You see, Mohamed got the vowels wrong just like ole' Joe Smith.

; )

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Yeah we really are silly, thinking we can fake it with the vowels and all. Heh...... yeah we know the ancient Semitic languages didn't use vowels, but whats to stop us from supplying our own? After all, everyone does it, why can't we? GRIN!

[glycoboy]

buy this dvd! it is off the hook. you'll feel so much more close to lehi's family and see the whole setting in more light. there is another video called 'journey of faith..new world' . this one is cool too.

[staylr0027]

I first read about Nahom in an archeological magazine. Seeing live pictures of the area was a bonus. Thanks for posting this series of interesting videos.

[platinumcar]

Flawlessly striking evidence. Thanks for this great video!

[illpriyanu]

oh thanks ! nice 10/10 nahom!

[skyaglow]

very good documentary!

thank you

[honeypeaches111]

So was he saying that the Book of Mormon, written or translated in approxamately 1830, by a man who had a 3rd grade education, state the name of a place , Nahum, in which modern archeology discovered in 1994, a place with the same name? And that this place corresponds to the same geographical place as described in the Book of Mormon?

Gee, what are the odds of that? Sounds like a home run to me!

[Kilgour88]

It's hardly a "home run," obviously you're getting your information only from LDS sources. Nahom or "NHM," (it's real name) is the first and only remotely reliable piece of archealogy "Evidence" found anywhere in the world that "supports" a Book of Mormon account. There is debate about the name read it on wikipedia. Also you're dismissing a mountain of evidence against the Book of mormon including The DNA of Native americans, no cows, horses, wheat, swords, chariots, ECT existing in America

[MrNirom]

Kil: Even if it started appearing.. that in and of itself would not necessarily convert people. I mean.. there is the Bible out there with evidence and the whole world is not following Christ. People will do what people want to do. Judas spent 3 years with the Lord and saw every miracle he did.. That didn't stop him. The Lord doesn't want followers who require proof anyway. The Lord has said the Book of Mormon is true.. I believe him!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

DNA does nothing to refute the Book of Mormon. Sorry your barking up a wrong tree.

[mpoulse]

ya, too bad they discovered that there really were things like horses, wheat , and swords in the Book of Mormon. Whoops, you better go run after your argument.

[jinheneamerican]

Those things are dismissed by Mormons- they are investigated. There are also journals that contain information suggesting horses in America as well- they're just not well known because science doesn't like to contradict itself. You cannot map out the lineage of "Native Americans" in different tribes any more than you can lump every African culture into celebrating "Quansa." The evidence for the BofM is mounting and dispelling the rumors. Are you scared?

[Kilgour88]

Also the year 1830 or Joseph Smiths "grade of education" are irrelevant because the area of NHM were discovered in the 1700's well before the BoM, Meaning Joseph COULD have got the name from outside sources. Just because Joseph had a 3rd grade education as you put it doesn't mean he wasn't highly intelligent, imaginative, or creative. What grade was mohammed in for the Koran? Also Joseph dictated to scribes to write the book having no forbarance on his spelling. Definitely not a "Home run."

[Kolohe86786876786786]

Ya, Nahom isn't NHM. While I'm at it, I'm gonna tell my muslim friends that Musa isn't Moshe, Isa isn't Yeshua, Yusuf isn't Yosef and Nuh isn't Noach. Afterall,the vowels never change when jumpng between semetic languages, right? Joseph did get the name from outside sources. Joseph knew a time traveling demon named "Chakachuki".

[Kolohe86786876786786]

Chakachuki jumped to 1937 A.D,the date Dartmouth acquired a copy of Robert Herons translation of Niebuhrs work, which mentioned Nehem. Then Chakachuki went back to 1830 A.D. and told Joseph all about it. He also told Joseph about the eastward turn that leads to the Dhofar region of Oman, along with it's ancient ship building tradition and tropical climate.

[elguanteloko]

chakachuki!!!!!

LOL!!!!

boy, that made me laugh big time!

[jinheneamerican]

"Going to" isn't "Gonna"- get your own language right before you attempt another one, friend. Also, being highly intelligent does not mean you have access to information like the location of middle eastern archeology- no nice try for that one, but no dice. You have the internet at your fingertips, but no amount of intellect will help you find the actual truth.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Naqhom was clearly inaccessible to Joseph. To make the claim requires extraordinary evidence. May we see yours? Your speculations and musings, sadly enough, simply don't count.

[EverASurprise]

Ehhh

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That guy made me laugh!

Great video, though.

[omiolo]

Kent has a great commentator voice. I can't wait for Saudi Arabia to let the rest of the world to archaeological discoveries.

[dandunn36]

This is an accurate and enlightening video concerning an incredible find in and of itself- a name in the Book of Mormon that would be a statistical impossibility to create and match up with an ancient and current actual location. No surprise- I already knew the Book of Mormon was true.

[desertdoggz]

Can you say, complete fabrication, along with all those glorious cities in the america's that never existed!lol What a farce!

[fairldsorg]

You can go read about this place in MANY non-LDS scholarly journals, see pictures, or visit the city itself. If by saying it is farce is your best argument, we are sitting pretty.