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  • Wow, I am so glad that I do know what happens after we die....because it's very real....and Jesus is real..Not because someone told me, but because I sought the Lord myself...and He revealed Himself to me in a real way....I truly was born again...and I wish that for Bill... God's love is so pure and so real and so overwhelming that He broke my heart with it. That's how I became a Christian...in the heart, not head knowledge...I use to think it was a fairy tale...

  • What ignorance of a dead man to God...May God forgive this man.

    Maher is Hopeless, Faithless, and without Respect. for Righteousness.

    Beware of these demons who come to destroy that which is good.

  • @kimbothebimbo805 I believe the problem of religion goes deeper than simply letting Christ come into our hearts and be saved. Personal salvation should not be goal of a Christian. Saved from what? The evangelical community is not clear on this issue. I believe a true Christian is less concerned about his or her salvation and more concerned about doing God's will by imitating His Son. Judgement day has never been about receiving Christ in our hearts before we kick the bucket.

  • I don't understand why people have to force beliefs on each other! Athiest say Chrisitans are crazy, Christians say Athiest are crazy, where does it get us? A lower class of human beings. I am Christian but I honestly don't care what others believe. Its up to them

  • If you ask Jesus to forgive you and come into your heart seek him with all your mind you will see God's reality of love in your life, then you will eternal rest instead of punishment for your arrogance.

  • Still waiting for you to insult Islam you fucking cowardly puke.

  • God does nothing. You do the right thing or you don't. God will just say and do what he always does: NOTHING.

    Isn't it convenient? God can't lose. You praise Him either way. Guess what: None of that bullshit matters to me, because I don't believe any of it.

    I'm a genuinely good human being with a track record to match any of you God believers. The proof is in the good deeds, because the words add up to squat - as does all your God has done lately.

    Talk is cheap. Show ACTIONS!

  • @schlummieleinchen Same here. Non-religious with a record of good deeds. I've realized atheist goodness goes unnoticed because we're a modest bunch. We don't typically preach atheism (Maher and Dawkins are exceptions), but we merge unnoticed with a bunch of Christians doing community service. Jehovah's witness visits, Mormon visits, Evangelicals asking you to pray with them or let them pray for you...that's why religions are so noticeable: they're loud and they just assume you're one of them.

  • Fantastic documentary.:) You see, I do believe in a bigger force , but. I don't like religions. He didn't sound atheist to me, though.. Maybe he is, but he sounded like a person who wants us to think about it. And have doubts, which I think is healthy. Atheists are believers. They are just like religious people, as they are sure there is no God. The movie is hilarious, and people really should think more on what they do in the name of a God.

  • To me this documentary was more on insulting the people he interviewed. Then once in awhile trying to disprove a part of the bible. Before the guy he interviewed had a comeback he cut off to another scene. I was hoping to find a good atheism Documentary. Its hard because most seem to just make fun of it and dont bring any proof.

  • You are right to an extent but he talked with a lot of powerful and influential people that we're foolish, corrupt, clueless and have no business directly impacting lives everyday. I think he answered his initial question "Why is faith good?" pretty well.

  • @b1oodseek how do you prove something doesnt exist? there is always a small chance that something completely unexpected happens.

  • Amen.

  • @dabreu atheists are not believers. in fact i think youd never find an atheist that is sure that there is no god. most, or all atheists are agnostic atheists; that is, they dont believe in god but they are not 100% sure that god does not exist.

    gnostic atheists are the ones who are 100% sure that god doesnt exist.

  • @dabreu No most atheists are more objective than religious people. They have doubts or at least dare to question what they hear/read.

  • I don't think religion is the cause of so much irrational human behavior that is done in its name, and that's a claim a lot of us atheists seem to make- what religion does is provide a powerful excuse to act violently and irrationally, one that we allow as a culture. It wouldn't be enough to eliminate religion- we'd need to make sure no new excuse crops up that we'd forgive the way we do religious excuses. Anyway, it was quite a funny movie.

  • That is a very vague comment...

  • This movie was great. I also believe that organized religion is b/s. How many a man, woman and child has did in HIS name. I'm not saying it would end wars, just make them far less then ever.

  • I LOVE BILL MAHER!!!!!! AND RELIGULOUS!!!!! I am a Hindu, and I don't take offense to anything he says. I just love the guy.

  • LOL.. he is awfully ugly

  • Bill's right no one knows for sure what happens when we die, but we are all free to choose a life of doubt (as Maher puts it) or a life of faith. Which choice leads to a happier more productive life...???

  • o/ to all my fellow rationalists.

  • he's a rationalist, as in he believes in reality and not fairtales.

  • @canuckman87 A rationalist, come on, the man called Micheal Moore a genius. I dont care how rational you seem otherwise, you say somthing crazy like that and your discredited

  • Two words: Spell check.

  • One word: Proof.

  • The words are spelled America, nazi, puppet, pushing, propaganda, and media. If you're understanding of America and Nazism is as good as your ability to SPELL the words, you're opinion is more worthless than a $10 bill from Zimbabwe.

  • A 10 dollar bill in Zimbabwe is worth the same amount it is here, 10 dollars. America's currency is the dollar. So whether the 10 dollar bill is in America or Zimbabwe, it's still worth the same amount. But I can see where you are going with that, almost had it... Keep up the half-ass good work though.

  • Are you retarded? He's not an atheist and its not an atheist documentary

  • he is an athiest and he is debunking religion in this movie, but just by calling him an athiest it turns people off from watching it. its bs

  • Larry King comes from the old school of news reporting when news people tried to stay neutral and un biased. Somewhere along the line in the past 20 or so years the journalism schools in America must have stopped teaching the importance of impartiality to their students.

  • Why is that?

  • maybe because it "only" made just more than 4 times what it cost to make while in extremely limited play.

  • Well, that was in theatres, where there are very closed-minded screeners...

    Let's see how well the DVD sales go, eh? :)

  • @widecaster because he never found any answers

  • @BibleTruth9 your name is a contradiction in terms

  • if you wanna see the movie google religulous and click on religulous avi its the whole movie

  • Bill, just say it, you know nothing happens when we die. Don't be afraid of the ignorant religious freaks!

  • Bill Maher is good, good at being sarcastic and smug, but that doesn't make him right. Religious stories certainly are "far out", but honest people realize that reality as it is is also "far out" It really depends on your angle of reasoning. I say a "far out" universe suggests a "far out" answer.

  • o yeah, your making a real rational assumption... so just because we don't understand the complex and intricate workings of the universe, we should make our "human" answer and just call it all god. where is your proof for your "far out" answer? what is your logic and reasoning for it? does it contain any validity?

  • Yes we did.. we brought communism, nazism, facism and many other ideologies and even combines some of them together just for the hell of it.. and we've killed millions of people as a sport and we've been fucked for hundreds of years by organized religion and now.. we're learning to avoid the bad things.. perhaps one day, if god allows, you can change too.. YES WE CAN.. say it with me ;) On the other hand America is perfect.. you don't have to change right? Good old (or new) USA, god bless you ..

  • ..And why should we reject "religion"? Because Europe has, Bill says. Great idea. Let's take our cues from Europe, the people who brought us Nazism, Communism, two world wars, ethnic cleansing and 100 million dead.

    Just because Europe has largely rejected Christianity doesn't mean people there don't believe in something. Paganism, Wicca, Islam and atheism have all rushed in to fill the void. And don't forget skinheads, neo-Nazis and all manner of virulent racists and anarchists.

  • ok buddy. if you can lay out a logical and rational argument explaining why and how religion is in anyway reality, i am all ears.

  • I live near metropolitan Dallas, but this film was only available at two theaters within 100 miles. Guess the Baptists made sure no one would get to see it.

    Peace and wonderful reading at Deism d com

  • it is out. I just saw it in a theater last sunday

  • is this documentary already out?

  • yes

  • no, summer 2009

  • yes, came out in october

  • touches2much- your youtube name is simply wonderful

  • i think we are all being lulled into a state of believing we have answers for everything. I'm pretty sure somebody already proved that everything in life is an illusion created by our minds, life is just a dream, just chill out guys stop fighting about beliefs, they don't really matter. we are just dirt, and we'll stay that way when we die

  • There are technical subtle sciences that are esoteric to the general public and far more advanced than what is being currently presented. It's unfortunate that most people don't put the effort it takes to learn some. Instead more time is spend on mundane intoxications and whimsical theological debates.

  • That's some perspective there.

  • haha

  • There has to be a rational explanation to the irrationality of the empiricist who demands that everything be proven empirically.

  • okay... do you go around and talk around in public like that? no wonder be misinterpret things wrongly. stop trying to be an intellect (which your not) and BE REAL.

  • There MUST be...I believe...there MUST be a rational explanation for the IRRATIONALITY of the empiricist who demands everything be proven empirically....

    This is as real as it gets...Ontology...Bill Maher is not a philosopher....He is an entertainer. True philosophy require true scrutiny.

  • true english require true grammar

  • I'm glad that my sarcastic humor is not lost with such intellectuals as yourself.

  • The most probable answer to "how life began" is best explained by applying quantum cosmology to the equation. Theoretically, it is entirely possible, and probable, that the universe has always existed in one way or another. This can be hard to grasp at first, but logically, it's the correct answer. Because we can observe the universe, we know it exists, we live in it. On the other hand, we can't observe God, we cannot verify it exists, and it requires too much faith to say God started it all.

  • Thanks for running us in circles again. Science can explain how life forms change, not how life came to be. That is still an unknown to science. Anti-God supporters keep saying at least we have scientific... Do your research - scientists can't say how life in the first place formed, period.

  • Science doesnt have to have all the answers religion certainly doesnt (it has theological labels -God did it, isnt an answer either .)

  • at least were trying

    were not just gonna sit down and wait for the rapture like religious folks

  • even if there's an astronomically remote possibility that some entity started life, it's definitely not god, gods, or anything supernatural.

    yes, i used to be a monkey!

  • Bill Maher's reasoning goes - christianity is based on silly stories. I say it doesn't matter if it sounds silly or not if it is true. Imagine trying to explain to ancient people the idea of continental drift. They might very well laugh at you. Or imagine telling them that man in the future will go to the moon. "Silly", "Stupid" and "Rediculous" are subjective terms.

  • But those things can be explained through scientfic means. How it is possible man can go to the moon etc.

    Truth must be verified by more than just faith.

    I think Maher saying Religion is rediculous is pointless.

  • Apparently Pictou paid no attention to the line of reasoning I put forth.

  • Finally, a voice of reason in this outdated means of controlling a population!

    You go Bill!

  • finally? George Carlin has been here for over 70 years!!!!man i could swear he was just here

    a minute ago...

    R.I.P Geroge Carlin

  • That's not a fair and honest example because of course a rotting apple was alive to begin with. Scientists cannot recreate the formation of life in a labratory because they don't understand how it happened.

  • Religion evolved out of fear. It continues to cater to every pathetic need and frailty that man ever possessed.

  • To be honest, I only wish it would have been released on Easter. That would have been golden.

  • clarification - rationalists discount God hypothesis because they think evolution has more ground - evolution explains changes in life form, not origin - scientists don't understand how life formed - Creator is still plausible option - I chose to believe and I don't feel gullable

  • IMO The God hypothesis asks more questions than it answers. Evolution doesnt discount God as you say. But for me, life as it exists doesnt suggest an intelligent desinger.

  • Rationalists can say, we will prove that life came from inanimate matter one day, but I can also say that one day, (when you die) you will see that I am right. Rationalists aren't any more "rational" than christians.

  • Christians are not rational. Believing that a virgin gave birth (with no evidence) is irrational. Believing in the afterlife because someone told you a story that someone told them (as it is something no one can know) is also irrational.

    Believing that scientific experiments and exploration will one day discover evidence that proves our current theories, is definitely rational especially when you look at how far science has come in such a short amount of time.

  • There is evidence that living things change over time, but there is zero evidence that life emerged from inanimate matter. Since scientists have not recreated that event, that also is a matter of faith.

  • It does not give equal probability to each theory though.

    God creates a bigger question than he answers. who created the creator? well, evolution obviously. God evolved alongside human societies and has survived for a long time as a very convenient method of controlling populations. Now, however, it is time for humans to grow up and annihilate this absurdity.

  • Actually, it can be proven that certain combinations of matter can create life. Take the rotting of food for example. That can eventually grow into some type of fungi. Fingi is life. Food is dead. That's just a simple example. There are still many more things out there that can create young life.

  • ok 666fan- first of all, rotting food does not "turn into fungi". mold spores are present, and then grow. the apple is breaking down. it doesn't turn into anything. "Food is dead"...ok well apples are fruit, are plants, and are alive. They create their own food (glucose), reproduce, and contain a genetic program.

  • I love sarcasm, my point was that he discredits christianity on the basis that the story sounds silly, when I say that the story of reality and how the universe came to be is pretty far out as it is. He has the right to believe what he wants, but so do Christians.

  • Bill Maher's trip is that he loves to point out how stupid religion sounds. Here's a far out story - the universe was created in an explosion out of a singularity, giant masses of rock and gas formed hurdling through space and then life spontaneously emereged - reality is quite strange already

  • But at least there is hard, observable scientific evidence for evolution and the big bang. There is no evidence for an invisible giant ghost, talking animals and other fluffy fairy tale nonsense.

  • It's not pro atheist , he is just saying he does not know.. big fucking difference, being atheist is just as pathetic as being 100% percent sure there is a god..

  • exactly,, saying you know something that is impossible to know is absolutely ridiculous

    he's anti religious b/c there claiming to KNOW the impossible, which in fact is Impossible.

  • there's some truth to that, but most christians if pressed will say something like they accept Christ in faith, without seeing, which is what Jesus actually said to doubting thomas.

  • believing anything without evidence is just stupid.

  • atheists only disbelieve the god hypothesis, they don't claim to know 100%, as believers do.

  • Its only my opinion, that space go's on' and on, FOREVER. That dont make any sence,

    DOES IT?

    What can you believe ?

  • I hope the movie lives up to the hype. I for one am glad that someone has put a healthy dose of skepticism about religion out there. I have never believed it and I get tired of how righteous the "believers" claim to be.

  • lol have fun in hell bro

  • There is no "hell" BRO!...They made it up to frighten and control people. Just like they made up Adam and Eve and Noah. You're just one of the cattle who believe this B.S.

  • Thank you! So true. Man made for mans use/purposes. A way to control and manipulate. Just like the gov. Same entity in a nutshell.

  • lol we shall see

  • LMAO We're "seeing" right now.

  • wow you repy fast, uh you can think whatever you want

  • That's right!....glad you're finally catching on!

  • lol you see things as your warped little mind tells you no matter the logic

  • LMAO...you're so brainwashed that you haven't had an original thought in years! Good luck with your fairytales...you're going to need it!!

  • lol FAIL

  • Intelligent people understand that speaking to God is all well and good, but when God speaks back, there are problems.

  • PrintsOfPeace: huh?

  • Bill Maher is not an atheist, for your information. He is agnostic, and there is a large difference between the two. Bill Maher refuses to proclaim himself an atheist because doing so would allude to the fact he knows something you don't. He doesn't - and he admits this.

  • A lot of fools exist claiming to be atheists who haven't bothered to find out how God speaks to humans. That info is in the Bible and Qur'an and several other holy books. Simply put: its our dreams and visions, the same way prophets heard God. Everyone dreams. Religion doesn't work with this Source from a Living God so religion is indeed a problem. Intelligent people learn how God speaks to them and run with it... without religion. Einstein and Edison were two good examples.

  • But Prints...who wrote those books? People. Couldn't it just as easily be inherent motivation that's just a natural part of the human psyche and not "God speaking to them"? I've had lots of good ideas (granted, not like Einstein or Edison), but I've never thought "I'm glad God spoke to me." There's no absolute proof that either is "correct" and that's the point. By the way, Einstein was at great odds between his latter day theories and how he thought God created the universe.

  • You just made that up. The Bible and other religious texts describe wakeful conversations OUT LOUD with their god. To paraphrase you: "A lot of fools exist claiming to be faithful make up lots of rationalizations to protect their faith when it doesn't hold up in the real world, against rational thought."

  • >Intelligent people learn how God speaks to them

    Word. God speaks to me in the form of a white salamander. He lives in the swamp near my house. For some reason He wants me to murder sally fields but I don't want to. He says I'll go to hell but I just can't bring myself to do it. Do you think I should? I'd end up in jail but I guess that would be better than eternal torture and suffering.

    It seems I'd have been better off never speaking to God in the first place.

  • Yes my son. The Cult of the White Salamander cometh. Listen, worship. I will meet you at the enclave of the blue grotto. Your visions aren't visions, they are messages.

    Your next message will be transmitted to you via Tom Cruise, wearing a festoon and a white undergarment on his head; so you know its authentic.

    "Zipa blap Tormporo!"

    - White Salamander

  • that's an incredibly unfair statement. by that logic any smart religious person was led by god. and besides along with Einstein and Edison; Hitler was religious. who guided him?

  • Dude, its out in October.

  • im just true neutral

  • ok, well don't think you have a moral high ground just cos you're on the fence. read Sam Harris - end of faith

  • That's why Mr. Maher is an Agnostic, or somebody who correctly states "I simply don't know." Sorry for the confusion, I should have stated this earlier.

    There's a reason why professors call the internet the "biggest bathroom wall in the world," because the majority of people think a good argument consists of saying "I'm right and you're wrong - so knock it off."

    I have a funny feeling the majority here won't understand that either, so c'est la vie.

    :) Michael from Canada

  • What I think Maher means when he says he doesn't know (and the theist doesn't know either) is that if you want to make religious claims you should be able to give hard facts as proof. Religion wants us (atheists) to look at it from a faith perspective.

  • Michael, Interesting parallel. I like to think that intelligence survives, and sometimes on bathroom walls. I think a person calls themselves an agnostic and not an atheist, to avoid having to then prove definitively that there is no god. Which sadly is not entirely possible (there are a lot of better questions to ask btw), so by calling one's self an agnostic instead of an atheist, you can move on a little easier.

    that is my view when I hear what is Bill said.

    Paul V.

  • I completely agree marsproject! I identify myself as an agnostic Humanist - or more simply put, a rationalist.

  • I like to think I am a humanist. But I am also a realist, and there fore a little more cynical. But I am looking forward to the movie. Oct 6. heh ha. It should be entertaining!

  • Hi again,

    Please reference "Philosophy of Religion: Louis P. Pojman: ISBN 9780534543648." My argument, and support that Atheism needs just as much faith as Theism won me top marks in University "Philosophy of Religion" class. Thank you Xeric77 for at least trying to support your argument, but you're both missing the point perhaps. ANY belief, without direct evidence is a philosophy. Knowing there is, or isn't, a 'GOD,' would need direct evidence.

    -Michael from Canada

  • I don't think that's correct. "Not" believing in something where there is no evidence seems a lot smarter than believing in something with no evidence... Am I wrong here?

  • You're right leesagrrl, the burden of extraordinary proof always lies with those making extraordinary claims. This has been known since the early philosophers.

    However, that being said, there is a difference between 'believing' there is no 'God,' and 'knowing' there is no 'God.' To know is to have undeniable proof. That is the crux of the point I wanted to share. :)

  • i agree with leesagrrl. most people who think of themselves as atheists are not firm believers in the absence of god. they are just very sceptical and they dont think the existence of god is very likely. and the chance that any religion got it exactly right is even more unlikely - to the point of utter absurdity. the default position for any rational thinker should be scepticism, not belief. "could be but its unlikely." thats whats called "having an open mind" as opposed to "close-mindedness".

  • There's a different between Atheists and Agnostics. you've described Agnostics fairly well when you say, "not firm believers in the absence of god". Atheists, on the other hand, know (it's not a question of belief or faith) that there is no proof of the existence of any god, beyond that which is purely man-made and requires a suspension of disbelief, or "faith" to accept.

  • Michael, atheism is not theism no matter how you look at it. In fact, it's the opposite.

    This from google definitions:

    (Greek, a "without"; theo "god"): Absence of belief in the existence of God or gods.

    It doesn't take faith to 'not believe'. Do you have 'faith' that Santa Clause does not exist?

  • Atheism is theism without the romanticism of creation. Both philosophies point to an infinite series of non-explanations, and both require ample faith.

    - Michael from Canada

  • atheism is not a philosophy, it is no an idea, and it is not a belief. It is a non belief in the idea of god and religion. Religion explains things by making stuff up, atheism simply states, hey you, your making stuff up, knock it off.

  • 'Doubt' is the first step towards real thinking.

    -overheard

  • Why do all these children in this thread HATE anyone who tells them there is no Santa Claus?

  • Love your work.

  • u have said things like gods human if that was tru what dose that make all of U Hmm

    dose it make u human or dose that make u Ai Robot or a Ai holagram its god's Science i dont like religion never need to never wanted 2 now i know I KNOW THE TRUTH AND I KNOW U LOT WOULD NEVER HADDLE THE TRUTH I'd THORT I'd TEST MY SELF ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO DRINKIN RED BULL i drank 47 can in 1 day and i was ok and i done overdose of 47 pills and woke up next day fine why cart i die now i know why

  • I have literally no idea what you are saying.

  • Not too hot on democracy eh redneck. Ever thought of relocating to Dagestan or whatever?

  • Previous was directed to pattaya95 - what a guy.

  • cant wait for this movie to come out ! :)

  • Maher, what a great guy. Can't wait to see the movie.

  • SaggitariusStar, perhaps the intelligence of a few can't cope. Mine can. Through pure logic and reason, using nothing more than mans instincts, I can show how a morality that is superior can be developed. And it works based on no fear of punishment in any present or putative after life as well as no hope of reward in a putative after life. All the reward you need is here in this life with family, friends and the whole human race. And, if you define faith as belief without knowledge, I have none.

  • hey morons i mean disciples im from lakeland and look like white jesus and i even help people and smoke pot heavily... pm me and send me money... new quote take it down, render unto jesus whatever the fuck he says needs rendering, bitches. lord out

  • there are things on this world that your intelligence, your self-confidence, your will can not cope with...

    all you have to do is to be and to look...

  • A better title would be "Atheism: Intelligence Required".

  • I think I'm going to make THAT documentary.

  • Have you seen or heard of the miracles in Lakeland in Florida??? Daily meetings with 10-12.000 people. Three raised from the dead! People getting gold teeth, Parkinson's, MS all kinds of sickness healed. Todd Bentley is the evangelist, but the audience is participating in healing people! It's on God TV daily as well.

  • Wake up!

  • OVER 20 RAISED FROM THE DEAD AT THE REVIVAL IN LAKELAND! Check it out on god tv. One guy is seing through a glass eye. He is an amputee, both legs. Now the legs have grown an inch acording to his doctor. Man you need to check out the Outpouring, thousands of people have been healed i a month or so. The meetings go on every day.

  • Maybe I could get that extra inch I've been wanting, if ya know wut I mean ;) ;) ;)

  • I'm sure you could if it's small.

  • See ya there, ruler in hand!

  • HOW? HOW... can you apologize for the video quality and yet not apoloize for the audo quality? :/

    The content is good, but the presentation... oh, dear.

  • 'Cos there is nothing wrong with the audio.

    After 11000 views you are the first one to complain about it! let's see your videos ...... oh wait, you don't have any!

  • Oh, calm down. It was an (admittedly quite poor) joke.

  • Ha ha! You sure know how to wind someone up! :-) No problem

  • very poor joke

  • i think people should grow up and stop believing the tupid stories your religious parents told you when you were a kid

    religion= waste of your ONE AND ONLY life

  • no mate we are all told in our different cultures that we have a god and that we should not tolerate the next persons god. god/gods were created to devide mankind!

  • what the hell is wrong with this video?

  • Bill has a point of finding religion funny, but I find it dangerous. Fundamentalist christianity is the largest threat to the survival of the US.

  • What 'light' is that? The light of blind faith? He speaks about doubt, reason and critical thinking and that's antoginizing?

  • SWA6543, really? You don't see his antagonistic style? Really? You think he says the things he says to get people to think? Really? He does it all for one reason ONLY, money! He knows that raising these issues gets people fired up, antagonized, and that sells the junk he calls a TV show and movie. He is trite and a cliché. BTW, I said nothing about blind faith, those are your words. There are volumes of evidence of Jesus' life. It take more faith to believe that man came from a giant bang.

  • Sure he does it for money as well and because the subjects engage people from both sides of an issue. That's what his show is about! I think it's good that we're having a dialouge.

  • There are volumes of propaganda(not evidence)making supernatural claims of a Jesus character, and a Horus, and a Mythra and On and On!! And the bible and the Koran are not evidence of anything but a vivid imagination!

  • tjw most atheists don't have faith in the big bang theory. Most accept that it's the best estimate we have at the moment, but part of being an atheist is not having blind faith but to be able to concede that any given theory is wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence. You could disprove evolution and the big bang and we'd carry on being atheists and carry on looking for the next most likely explanation to investigate. In that regard, it's alot more honest than any religion.