RNC Protest

[Hrko1992]

they left cuz there was cameras around...where there wont be any cameras..uuuugggh

[mrrossn]

what a stupid fucking child. They weren't there to "watch" you and keep you out of any where you defect, they were there to stop the 100 or so violent people that were using a peaceful & leagle march as cover to cause damage to the city and to keep the "leagle" march on its permited path so marcher weren't run over by cars & people not in the mach could get to work & home. Cops are there for your protection, I hope u need 1 1 day but they don't come.

[theethanashby76]

@jcrodgers928

You are a huge pussy. Chicago. HA. you aren't even allowed to own handguns because you might hurt yourselves. Seriously doubt you're going to "smack the shit" out of anyone. YOU are going to run your mouth on youtube, masturbate to internet porn, and fall asleep in your mom's basement like the bitch you are.

[GooseyPooPoo]

Cool rattle punks.

[kilroy227]

Well that was terribly uninteresting

[ClassicRock8]

Libertarian Socialism is the only answer (A) Rights for EVERYONE (E)

[TheJman6360]

Such a peaceful environment!!! If 2/3 of the country didn't hate conservatives they wouldn't need so many guards!!!

[midniteOG]

"oo im just, proving a point".. ya, point being your a dmbass..

[TheAngelofvengance]

these anarchists are pathetic there like little brats "im not touching you" concept is fucking pathetic grow some balls and fight us ooh i would love that i would lick the blood off my baton lmao

[therabbiomchomsky]

@TheAngelofvengance You are one sick twisted bastard. That kind of hate and malice towards any human being is disgusting.  He was being immature, yeah, but would you beat your kids for doing the same thing?

[TheAngelofvengance]

@therabbiomchomsky u think im serious my god no im not i just hate hippies i wouldnt hurt anybody unless they tryed to hurt me or someone else but dam all i hear is kill that pig rape his family just evil and hatefull things and people cheer em on im a deputy for the tangiphoa sheriffs office so i hate people like this im not saying thats what these guys said it just gets under my skin when i see these kids waste there lives cause its the cool thing to do it just bugs me thats all

[therabbiomchomsky]

@TheAngelofvengance I've heard the whole kill the pigs thing before, but rape his family? I hope you'll listen to me earnestly when I assure you that hate and violence are not the aims of the anarchist movement. But also, I retort: You said several times that you hate other people, including so- called hippies. Can I just ask you what good hating them will do for your cause? Would it not be preferable to love them, and prove to them that not all cops are violent hate- mongers? Just a thought

[TheAngelofvengance]

@therabbiomchomsky hate maybe a strong word sorry my father in law is an ex hippie so i wont say hate he actually prety koo but our job is so difficult we put our lives on the line everyday and nobody cares im just feed up with politics our job is to protect and serve theres nothing sinister to it yea theres some who abuse the badge but were not all like that and these protest get violent i dnt care how peasefully it started but theres always some punk kid who starts a riot we take no sides

[therabbiomchomsky]

@TheAngelofvengance Alright, all I'm saying is that when you say things about being excited to lick the blood off of your baton, you give the very wrong impression.

[jcrogers928]

@TheAngelofvengance

I agree with you 100%. I would love to smack the shit out of those punks. I am not some right winger by any means. But their attitudes really suck and sometimes a really good ass-whooping can straighten you out. I live here in Chicago and if these punks come through town please hit me up. I'll bitch slap'em all. Believe that!

Peace and love.

[2009FistPumpChamp]

@TheAngelofvengance Shut up pussy

[moroniclefty]

They should have used their taser on him more.

[bigbadbojenkins]

Great job guy, you really accomplished something there

[TheJman6360]

@bigbadbojenkins I know that loser should join the tea party protesters!!!

[lakestatefishing]

Brush your teeth and get a job.

[amandabuffalo]

What a tool.

[cordlox]

snake mullet...no wonder they beat him.

[Monettie]

what a joke. it's no wonder people just assume any kind of anti war thought involves this idiots way of thinking.

you wanted to provoke the cops? for what, so you could go home and have a good story? write about injustice... fucking joke.

im all for individuality and free thought. for freedom. but this is so fucking counterproductive that you're as bad as the pigs you screm at. gtfo

[harland27]

i thought that was a girl

[natej69000]

shut the fuck up MIKESTERNBERG..faget

[chas921]

Nate, another extremely not intelligent response. Are you and teenagevicious brothers? Both of you apprear to be too stupid to live.

Right on mikesternberg - one of the very few intelligent responses so far!!

[mikesternberg]

stop crying you bunch babies! thats what you get for being anarchists anarchy means no rules right? well then stop bitching when the cops are rough if no rules is ok for you then nor rights for you and no rules for the cops must be ok as well yawn there are real problems in the world go find a real cause may i suggest being a teacher or a go work for feed the children or even the peace core empty protests that failed thats what this was

[astropop]

I would say the right to peaceful assembly is a real cause. When your standing in line for the showers or held indefinitely with no cause maybe then you'll understand the importance of the Constitution.

[chas921]

Peaceful assembly - this was peaceful assembly in your mind?? If so, are you related to Nate and teenagevicious who? Their most intelligent comment so far seems to be "shut the fuck up". Hopefully, you have more intelligence than those two fools!!! But, it doesn't seem like it

[CapitalistHolocaust]

to 'mikesternberg':

Anarchy does mean 'no rules' specifically, it means nobody ruling over you.

Anarchy is about recognising that government is responsible for 270 million deaths in the last 100 years alone & that even democratic governments commit massive atrocities (for example America has killed 10 million people abroad since WWII).

Anarchy is about understanding that decentralization of power is the only way to avoid this.

Some of the greatest intellectuals who lived were anarchists.

[iirossii2005]

Well now that the RNC is over its back to dressing up like darth vadar and fighting friends with plastic lightsabers for these hippies

[Bennyliz]

rat tail = retard

[boosuff]

I don't think this kid speeks for the majority. He obviously is inexperienced and mostly looking for excitement. This is not relative to the point and should not be used to judge the majority.

[Dread58]

That was the ugliest chick I ever saw. It had to be a chick, because she obviously had NO BALLS.

[WashDCDemocrat]

Are you joking? I heard those cops beat the shit outta those guys.

Maybe they came back later...

[spadge63]

What a fuckin' moron. The police should have beat all those liberals within an inch of their lives.

[joeperryforpope]

your a dumb fucking piece of shit excuse for an american, fuck you and the slut that bore you into this unholy world

[chas921]

Hey Joe, are you, teenagevicious and natej69000 brothers??? I would hope that 3 individuals as stupid as you guys come from one family. If not, then I'm not sure what the explanation is for someone whose smartest comment is shut the fuck up!!

[testing88534]

The protesters are not liberal nor conservative. Alot of these Anarchist protested at both the Democratic and now the Republican convention.

[chas921]

So, does that mean they're just a bunch of stupid assholes?

[testing88534]

chas921, no it just shows that they are not a bunch of liberal/Hippies so forth.

[chas921]

Sorry, I think stupid assholes is a better description of them. But, what is your take on what they propose to gain?

[testing88534]

chas921, I'm personally a Socialist yet I find the protester's ideals disturbing. Not all, but there are groups who want to establish anarchy. They want no real national government and they somehow expect some sort of Utopian society based upon some philospher from Spain(I think). Also, theres no point in protesting the Democrats because they didn't start the war and they currently don't support it unlike the Republicans. In short, I think the protesters are over reactive in certain situations.

[chas921]

Actually, I think you just proved my point. These are stupid assholes, nothing more, nothing less.

[testing88534]

chas921, I think some and not all of them are stupid assholes. I mean alot of people hate the Republicans right now and have good reason to hate them.

[chas921]

And a lot of people hate the Democrats right now and have good reason to hate them. That doesn't give them, or those that hate the Republicans the right to do what these fools do!!! The problem with most people is that they let dislike turn into hate. The problem with anarchists is that they are a bunch of losers. If they got their wishes, they'd be worse off than they are now.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Do you have any understanding of what Anarchists stand for, other than the distortions provide by the mainstream media?

Anarchists are for decentralisation of power, removing the power from the ruling class & placing it back into the hands of the people themselves; self-governance.

Massive organizations such as the State apparatus are too big & too unaccountable to be trusted. The sheer size of the apparatus lends to monumental corruption & massive disregard to human rights.

[chas921]

You seem to have a little more intelligence than teenagevicious and natej69000. You also seem to have a tremendous dislike for the US. Could you please explain self-governance and how it would relate to the day-to-day interaction between individuals? Or, haven't you thought it out that far yet???

[CapitalistHolocaust]

I'm pretty sure I put my point forward in an intelligent & articulate manner. You aren't the type of person who insults the intelligence of anyone who doesn't share the same World View as yourself, are you?

I have a dislike for aggressive foreign policy in general, I focus on the U.S. because we tend to ignore the atrocities at the hands of our own Governments.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Self Governance is fairly self-explanatory; the state apparatus could be gradually dismantled & replaced with highly localized democratic institutions where people not only get to vote on a frequent basis on the matters that concern them most, they also get to raise questions & put them to the vote.

The people effectively participate in democracy & politics rather than just becoming spectators & choosing who represents their interests.

The power is effectively localized & decentralized.

[chas921]

When you say state, do you mean the country like in US or do you go down further as into state as in Texas, or just how far down do you take this. If you take highly localized as meaning the city/county/parish level then I do question your intelligence.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Im afraid the city/county/parish level is not far enough.

We are talking street level democracy.

I realize that these concepts may seem alien to you, but the governing class has done everything in it's power to suppress the message of self-government for obvious reasons & so that they seem a bit far out & extreme.

Bear in mind though, some of the greatest intellectuals alive & dead were Anarchist thinkers.

[chas921]

Ok, if the Oak street guys didn't like what the Elm street guys democratically decided and it impacted the Oak street guys, who decides what happens then - the ones with the largest weapons or???? Also, what happens when the worker owned company doesn't make a profit - do the workers get pissed and quit? And if the company continues to lose money and goes out of business, what happens to the workers? Any unions to protect them? No state to provide worker's comp. Insurance????

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Well what happens in a democracy currently? Usually only 40-50% of the people vote for the winner of the election. That means 50-60% don't get what they want on nearly EVERY issue, not just one or two separate issues.

With decentralized democracy, Elm Street & Oak Street would either co-operate locally on issues that effect them both, find private mediation or go up to the next level of 'government' that is designed not as an apparatus to govern but to mediate between localized syndicates.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Excellent point about workers becoming unemployed & businesses going out of business.

Firstly, it's one of the reasons why I favour an anarcho-syndicalist approach to anarcho-capitalism, so that some of the more beneficial parts of the State can remain in place; such as welfare & Health (although healthcare doesn't really apply for you in the U.S.).

It is only the parts of the State that deliberately concentrate power, promote authoritarianism & buffer democracy that need be dismantled.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

There are many other possibilities of course. Since the current property Laws help keep 70% of the land in the hands of 1% (the rich elite) & effectively deny the public access to the resources on that land, forcing them to work in the employ of the rich as what some would call virtual wage-slaves, the people may decide to put in a compensation scheme.

So that anybody owning more than 2 acres of profitable land has to pay compensation to those without land.

[chas921]

From reading you post I was unaware that there would be a next level of government. Not designed as an apparatus top govern, but to mediate? Then what happens when Elm Street tells them to fuck off? But to you point on the two acre thing - how can that be done if Gov't is down to the street level? And if worker owned companies had more than two acres of ground would they then have to pay compensation to the unemployed or to those who had no land? Health is a beneficial part of the state???

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Like I said, you can keep the most beneficial parts of the state in place. Dismantle those that are erroneous, self-serving or counter to democracy. Which parts, would be decided democratically & gradually over a period of time by the people.

Bear in mind, that by it's nature, a self-governing society would be a highly democratic society. The people would shape it's structure themselves. I can't tell you exactly what structures it would take, that would be decided by democracy; real democracy.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Just because democracy is down to street level, doesn't mean that everything else is necessarily abolished. Just that the power resides at the street level; democracy starts from the ground up, not the top down. It may be abolished completely & replaced with temporary arbiters.

I can't say, I'm not a dictator & that is the whole point; the people would decide what was best for them; not the rich elites.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

What if elm street, or whoever, loses the vote & tells the others to f*ck off. This will happen, it's a democratic society not a utopia.

If they take actions that break rules as a consequence they will have the courts to answer to. Privately ran courts with multiple judges appointed/hired by both sides (rather than a single judge hand picked from an established elite) could ensure less bias than our current system.

There are many alternatives & proposals for law & order in libertarian lit.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

If you don't like the idea of a National Health-care system then you are entitled to vote against it. That's the beauty of REAL democracy. Of course you may lose, but the upside is, that you will get to vote on far more issues & get your way in far more ways than you do currently.

Thankfully, in our country (Britain) everybody loves the Free Health Care, which the people fought & struggled for & WON, inspite of the Corporate Propaganda against it. The media daren't criticize it now!

[chas921]

Free Health Care - explain that please. How do the Drs get paid??? How long does it take to get an appointment with your Dr? Should you need serious surgery, a heart bypass for example, do you have an option as to who will perform the surgery and where it will be performed???

[CapitalistHolocaust]

The doctors are paid by the government, through National Insurance, which is a tiered tax system where the poor pay less than the rich.

It is far cheaper than Private Health care & the quality is in many cases as good if not better. In fact, many Private doctors also work for the NHS.

Surgeries & Doctors differ. I changed doctor recently because my old one was useless. My new doctor is fantastic, I can always get in the same day to see him for emergency or in a day or two otherwise.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

Not sure about heart surgery per se, but with surgery in general the wait for private is quicker but not always, but you always have the option of going private if you can afford it.

It's not always worth it though, sometimes the wait is the same. All emergency surgery is treated immediately of course.

Overall the quality of private is better than public health, but for my liking the difference isn't worth the extra.

[chas921]

I read an article today, Wall Street Journal, that stated many people are paying for drugs that the health service will not provide. One part mentioned a lady who was told that the health service would not administer the drugs to her even if she bought. After several months, they then told her they'd provide the drugs under the system. By that time, it was too late to help. Oh, and obviously from your description, it is not "Free healthcare".

[CapitalistHolocaust]

You are correct that some drugs are not available on the NHS, yes. We only have the application of intellectual property laws on generic drugs to blame for the ridiculous prices the pharmaceutical companies charge, this often after the companies have received public funding too (even in the US).

Yes it isn't truly 'free' health-care, but it does get called that. It's free for those who don't pay tax of course; children, the unemployed, those who's income doesn't qualify them for tax.

[CapitalistHolocaust]

In terms of day to day interaction; If an Anarcho-Syndicalist model were followed, worker owned companies would replace present Corporations & Companies.

They would still be private & not State owned, however they are ran democratically from within & everybody gets a share in the profits & so it is in their interests to work hard.

Self-owned Syndicates would create a highly integrated network of interdependent interactivity highly suited to the modern World.

[NRCP27]

I love you Chas McDonald

[hogsonquads]

That goes to show how stupid you liberals are!

[jhb1422]

I would hardly call that a protest

[REM6B]

Moment of his life to just another bum when the cops turn their backs on him.

Now that was funny.

[TeenageVicious]

You wouldn't have the balls to even be there so shut the fuck up. wheres your video?

[REM6B]

Sorry have to work in order to make money and pay taxes (his unemployment check). Thus I am supporting him standing there.

How do you like me now bitch?

[TeenageVicious]

Ha ha.

[chas921]

I've seen two comments from you. Where were you when this was going on? Probably waiting for your enemployment check. If you don't have better comments, why don't you shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!

[chas921]

This comment re two comments was directed to that dickhead teenagevicious. Also, sorry for misspelling unemployment, although he's probably too stupid to notice or even know.

[TeenageVicious]

I haven't been sitting on my computer refreshing the page over and ver jackass, I was down there actually doing some shit

[chas921]

Correct you stupid twit. You were down there doing some shit!!! That shows how stupid you really are. It's a shame your parents didn't believe in abortion!!!!

[TeenageVicious]

whatever you say.

[chas921]

Gee, that shows a real lack of intelligence! If the shit you were doing had the result you wanted, what would you do then??? You probably don't have a clue. By the way, you are too stupid to be vicious!

[chas921]

The gee that shows a real lack of intelligence is in reponse to teenagenotvicious.

[gallowspole]

he's obviously high

[rob44mpd]

Hey lets all go talk to the fricken idiot and put him on camera. Better yet, lets interview him. What a waste of peoples time and taxpayer money having to watch over morons like that.

[johnnybaritone]

Yeah i was down there and almost got hit with some shit. so i knocked him down and took a shit on his face and pissed all over him. He didn't like it, i wonder why. If these protesters spent less time smoking weed and getting drunk, maybe they could actually think about something meaning full to protest about. And the reality is most of these people don't vote so they are really just contributing to the problem. Get an education.

[hogsonquads]

Amen!

[florgat91]

inside job !

[laxquinn]

yeah i wanna c some fights man not just ppl sitting there

[noopy4444]

STUUUPIDD F**ing popos..dont they know the NWO does not discriminate? and coming FOR THEM TOO??

[PpsyckedD]

I saw that hippy three hours later got WTF PWND! by the riot police and knocked out!

[datruesouljah]

are those black things aliens?? is our country under attack ?? big cameras must scare them...

WOW... to think a invasion of big black scary creatures with clubs...and they can be defeated by sitting down and pointing big cameras at em'...WOW....who woulda' thought...

[blubuddha]

That dude is totally tripping! If that was me...I would've told them I sent them away with my Jedi mind powers!

[spongah]

dudes on shrooms, lol that musta been a trip

[virindi1]

that was pretty neat