Anti-Catholic sentiments are very strong in Scotland and it has become tolerated in Scottish society. My channel examines how this manifests itself in Scottish soccer, the country's most popular sport.
Yeah, they're going after the Catholic Church. Then it'll be all Christians. What people don't understand is that no one will be able to blame anybody but themselves before the Throne of Christ. Anti-Catholicism is a symptom of a world that has given up the sense of sin. Orthodox Christians believe the same beliefs but nobody attacks them. Christianity itself is in danger. Jesus said that He would never leave His Church. The Bride of Christ will follow her Lord through His cross,death, ressurect
What the roman catholic empire believes to your face, and what they really believe behind your back and under their rock...are two different things. That's why their victims hate their guts.
@dirtbagcatholics Dear Mr. Dirtbag, What everybody seems to forget is that we're ALL sinners. Even the Pope. The recent scandal at Penn State points this fact out. Does this mean that the entire faculty and staff at P.S. are also guilty of child abuse? C'mon. NOBODY is going to be able to blame the R.C.C. when they are the before the throne of Christ, ALONE. You obviously didn't listen to the vid. here.
@bheadh ???>>>>Anti-Catholicism is a symptom of a world that<<<!! no longer will allow operatives of the ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE to burn people at the stake, and murder those who don't give homage to the pope in their beds...and get away with it.
You know all people do is target the people in the faith the faith itself is a good faith and of course theres bad people the Catholic religion did the best they could to hold the world together after the roman empire fell but that a huge strain. im tired off people always hating on catholics
Absolutely dead on. It can be very upsetting to listen to the tone of some things on even such a big player as CNN during a human interest piece. Look at some of the comenters here. This is hate speech and it is tolerated. I've been told that Catholics are evil, I've ended up saying that it's all a sense of style and evil is pretty old. Most Catholics would find two pregnant nuns as sort of funny. Two catamites with a priest is what they mean though.
@nokomarie1963 I'm a former sucker who was a hard charging practical catholic.
I learned two things.
1. Never turn your back on a so-called "good roman catholic"
2. You can't trust a "catholic school rat".
And....IT'S SYSTEMIC AND THE RESULT OF THE DESIRE FOR EARTHBOUND EMPIRE!!!
THE HATE THAT SO CALLED GOOD CATHOLICS GET IS HATE THAT THEY HAVE EARNED! THEY GET REAL VICIOUS AND AGGRESSIVE WHEN THEY THINK YOU HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO TURN!
I would like to know who these powerful Catholics are. The Kennedys? The election of JFK was awful for Catholics in the USA because it opened the door for Catholics to become like "everyone else"- that is, people who separate their religion from everyday life (and politics). The Democrat Party used to be the "Catholic party" until the time of George McGovern when every anti social freak joined that part.
@RomneyGack >>> "Yes, many people in the US are in nothing else if not suspicious of the Bride of Christ" - RomneyGack >>> Does this sound like the Bride of Christ?: "RELIGIONS make an important contribution in GUIDING HUMANITY towards a BETTER FUTURE. They help it TURN to God, Creator and Father of humankind. They position ALL PEOPLE in a WIDER, COMMON HORIZON. We accept this MISSION..." - Card. Reinhard Marx of Germany at the Sant' Egidio peace prayer meeting (Sept. 13, 2011) >>She's a harlot
I would like to know who these powerful Catholics are. The Kennedys? The election of JFK was awful for Catholics in the USA because it opened the door for Catholics to become like "everyone else"- that is, people who separate their religion from everyday life (and politics). The Democrat Party used to be the "Catholic party" until the time of George McGovern when every anti social freak joined that part. Yes, many people in the US are in nothing else if not suspicious of the Bride of Christ.
@ImagesByDavid I surely hope that you aren't deceiving yourself into thinking that there are no child molesters and child pornographers and perverts among your ranks. The difference is that they aren't Catholic priests, they are fundamentalists pastors.
The thing is you wont see any covers up or have people sent over to tell the victims that they werent raped. I will send you a powerful testimony from a member of of a live audience. Who was treated like a liar by Rome. The Church I belong to has no stain on it. My Church is the Church of Jesus Christ. Its not of this World. Anyways! isnt that crazy that the RCC has been in controversy for CENTURIES with Rape, Murder, Oppression and that SATANIC teaching of Indulgences. The One True Church, LOL
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
You can see the Romanist can not engage in debate but always resorting to false witness.
1 Timothy 4:1-3
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain meats"
@andreh58 The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the Age of Accountability and celebrates Pagan holidays Like Christmas and Easter Also pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
Glad to hear it. I was describing the circular reasoning which Catholicism is based on. If you see through their baloney I congradulate you. Many people are still deceived.
@HumanVersion2 Yes Human, those 1 1/2 kids a year are so numerous! I mean, how does that number compare with the 5,000 kids raped by family members every year?!
CATHOLICISM= THE INITIATED HOUSE OF HOMOSEXUALITY, VIA THE MOLESTATION OF YOUNG BOYS AND THE FURTHER DESTRUCTION OF ETHNIC PEOPLE THROUGH EURO CENTRIC SOCIAL ENGINEERING AND VALUES , IM SO GLAD THESE PEOPLE CAME FORTH TO REVEAL THIS EXTENSION OF HELLENISTIC GREECE. THERE IS SOME POETIC JUSTICE IN THIS NEGATIVE DECEPTIVE WORLD AFTER ALL.
@redeemerslove LOL If this is the best you can do ha ha, then you need to go back to your Greco Roman cave and study, and i mean study real hard, and look in the mirror. You won't though because you don't have that kind of integrity, so when i get through with you factually , all you are going to be able to do is through yet more INFANTILE insults and not deal with the facts. As to my sanity on the contrary calcified pineal im so sane that it scares the living hell out of you.
@davisismail1comcast I don't need to do anything better. Typing in all caps? What's the matter, got a "pay attention to me" deficit? It was not intended as an insult, you definitely seem mentally ill.
This is from a counselor of twelve years. Get some help. God Bless you.
"Up yours," Phillip Jenkins. That CULT was willing to let my eternal soul be sent to HELL by telling me, as a Catholic child, that it was the only "True Church." What a bunch of crap. Not until I was born again, in my apartment, alone with God's Holy Spirit, did all of this myth fall away.
Get with it Jenkins. Read some church history: James Wylie "The History of Protestantism" is available on-line for free. There, it is revealed that the Catholic cult IS a dark and sinister religion!!
In America there's no obligation to respect any religion, not even Catholicism. I respect the rights of Catholic people. I do not Catholicism and I need not make excuses for that. Besides, last I checked Catholics have the same freedom to practice their superstitions as the rest of us. Finally, and nobody can deny this, the negative attitudes many folks have against Catholicism is justified by the actions of the clergy. Need I say more?
@redeemerslove Q. How do you know the bible is true? A. Catholic doctrine says so. Q. How do you know Catholic doctrine is true? A. The church says so. Q. How do you know the church is right? A. The pope says so. Q. How do youy know the pope is right? A. He's infallible Q. How do you know the pope is infallible? A. The bible says so. Notice that we're back where we started. It's why they call it circular reasoning.
@MightyCarnac There are 49,000 priests in the U.S. There are 1.5 cases per year, which is declining. Do you need me to calculate the actual number of priests who engaged in this behavior over the last 50 years, or can you do it yourself?
@redeemerslove There's been thousands of "cases" as you call them in the U.S. alone. And legal judgements in the hundreds of millions of dollars -- in the U.S. alone. But the point I was really making was that priests claim to act "In persona Christi". In the person of Christ. An unsupportable superstition.
“To whom you forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes I forgave it IN THE PERSON OF CHRIST” (2 Cor 2:10).
I love how so called "Christians" use the Catholic written book on christianity called the Bible as their reference to attack the Catholic Church!!! Ha! makes alot of sense Einstien
@s There is always room for improvement of character, even in the noblest of savages. Failure to respect the life ways of First Nations will probably be regretted at some point in our Nation's history, if in fact that time has not come upon us now. But to belittle the good that was and is being done by the RCC is to be blind to any good that can come from any source, which is to deny the Author of all good, namely the Creator Himself.
@s While it may seem difficult, it must not be impossible to perfect human nature. Many examples exist. They are called Saints. Jesus told his disciples "Be ye therefore perfect, as my Father in Heaven is perfect". God's ways are not our ways, and though "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", the possibility for perfection still exists. "There must be a Hell, for then what in Heaven's Name would heaven be for"
Each culture has a genius to contribute to the world, and over-arching set of virtues that are manifested in the best and brightest among their cultures. No culture is perfect; God would not have needed to single out Israel to be the Chosen People if such was not needed. God's timing is always perfect, and He never makes mistakes. Men may plot evil, but God plans are for Good, and His plans never fail. The trajectory of history runs through the Eucharist, and Reconciliation.
Other tribes have assimilated remarkably well to the dominant culture, and their traditional ways have assisted them in rejecting the bad effects of modernism. A NA friend of mine from the past told me yrs ago that " Us Indians are going to put you white guys on Reservations; we're gonna call them Gambling Casinos".
from the greed and incompetence of gov't agents, the BIA. Unfortunately, as Wounded Knee showed, the Federal Agents who sided with the modernists destroyed an authentic attempt to bring back some pride and autonomy to those who wished to find comfort and meaning in old traditions. I can relate to that because the RCC has Traditions that are often scoffed at, too.
@s Sir, I depend on Ohiheysa to inform me of the effects of the Christianization on the First Nations, for he was there during the critical transition period. His life exhibits the best effects of both cultures." Love wills the highest and best good for the sake of the beloved". The deplorable state of dependency of First Nations peoples is principally a failure of the white and red cultures to blend & share the best aspects of both cultures, and conquered & defeated have suffered
@s "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; unto God that which is God"s". I will therefore leave to God the ultimate judgement of the heart of Black Elk; may God forgive him his sins, me mine, and you yours. I have found the Catholic Church to be a natural home for all those who have kept open the possibility of there being answers to the most difficult questions of life, and that the answers will be made available to the humbled heart.
@s ..ation Chapel at a Catholic Church. I opened my heart, and asked "What are you trying to tell me?" and it was revealed to me that Jesus is truly Present in the Most Blessed Sacrament. I am sure this is what happened with Ben Black Elk. He was shown Power of the Holy Spirit resides with the Presence of Jesus, the Lord of Creation, is attached to the Catholic Church. As the Catholic Church goes, so goes the world. Divine Mercy & Justice, Nature&Supernature reside there.
@s I can relate to your spiritual philosophy; I considered myself a full-on Pagan, attaching my spirituality to "Earth-centered" religions, and I studied and adapted my spirituality from the writings and lives of Native American spiritual greats like Black Elk, Stalking Wolf, Ohiyesa ( Charles Eastman)etc. I fasted and prayed in nature,always asking "what are you trying to tell me?". I was skeptical of "organized religion", but prayed the "skeptic's" prayer.I happened to go to an Ador (Con'td)
One of the effects of pervasive and offensive Anti-Catholicism is that some will be led to attempt to prove all that has been said about the RCC is true, rather than blindly accept that the charges are true. Finding the charges are rather overwhelmingly and easily proven false certainly opens one's eyes to a challenging new understanding of everything, including history, so pervasive is Anti-Catholicism in this culture (American). I found the truth, and now I am a recovering Anti-Catholic.
@finishstrongdoc Yup. I was a bandwagon anti-cath Protestant. I got sick of all the discord in it and started looking elsewhere. I put the emotional arguments on the side (CRUSADES BLABLABLA) and just examined the core tenants and history and hell yeah does it change your whole view of history. I had to convert after realizing NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE. WOOT!
@finishstrongdoc One thing I notice is that all other forms of Christianity are negative religions. Not negative as in evil or sad, but negative in terms of existing in reaction to something else. Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism both engage in cathbashing, whereas Catholicism just kinda *is*.
@selenadelos You may know that Pope Benedict XVI came to the UK last year. The first ever Papal state visit to these shores, its old and eternal enemy. The weird thing was how impressed I was. It was all so incredibly spectacular with ecstatic crowds. I found myself being slightly in love with Benedict too. It’s a powerful mix, a trinity of the awesome, the beautiful and the terrible all in one. If there’s a God I think He’d prefer us to trust Him enough not to believe in Him at all, so I don’t
Having granted the New World to Spain and Portugal the Pope also decreed “….It shall therefore be lawful for no man to infringe or rashly to contradict this letter of our commendation, exhortation …commandment, inhibition, and determination. And if any shall presume to attempt the same, he ought to know that he shall thereby incur the indignation of Almighty God and his holy Apostles, Peter and Paul.” ( para 12, Papal Bull Partitioning America 1493)
The Roman Catholic Church at its height was a terrifying, sadistic and incredibly brutal slaving machine. Why do Americans completely ignore the history of the New World? You cannot understand the north without knowing that the entire southern continent were reduced to slavery by 1530. All Amerindian cities and farming civilizations in both continents were smashed by 1560. That’s why only the plains Indians, who left a light footprint, survived.
@ritchloui This is absolute nonsense. In the first place, you're cherry picking history. There was a great deal of good done by the missionaries in the Americas. The Jesuits for example tried to protect Native Americans from their Portuguese and Spanish oppressors. Secondly, you totally white wash the Native American culture. The Caribe tribe fattened and ate Taino babies. The Iroquois committed genocide against the Hurons. Human sacrifice was a regular part of the Aztec and Inca religions.
@trajan75 Interesting that you yourself are only aware of what the Roman Church itself has propagated. It mattered not at all what the natives were about. They were slaughtered and enslaved anyway. You trot out clichés about evil natives and kindly priests. The hypocrisy is alive and well in the carefully crafted narratives that excused and explained it all away. Another example of the Roman Church’s spiritual leadership at its height.
@ritchloui Don't tell me what I'm aware of. Every educated Catholic knows what the faults of the Church. Dante put a number of its prelates in his Inferno. I wasn't "trotting out cliches". I was just trying to give some balance to your one sided presentation. Natives weren't evil. They were brave and long suffering as well as primitive.As long as the Church is run by humans it will number sinners as well as Saints in its ranks. But you only see the flaws.
@trajan75 How ‘primitive’ the natives were we’ll never know. They only lacked weapons made of steel. Remember, the European advances in science started after that time. Again, no thanks to the RCC. The horror unleashed on the native Indians and Africans was in keeping with the horrors unleashed all over Europe – by the same persecutory ideology. We all know the Roman Church is run by humans, its enemies have been saying so for hundreds of years. On this we are agreed
@ritchloui I can see that this discussion is going nowhere. We can all sit back and name an atrocity. Protestants killed on St Valentine's Day. Irish Catholics massacred by Cromwell, French Catholics in the Vendee slaughtered by the Revolution etc. You want to single out Catholic misdeeds fine. My position is that over the centuries the Church has done much more good than harm. I can easily defend that position, but so what? You are not amenable to reason, and you only think you know history.
I’m not satisfied by the counter examples you give; they are all well documented, well researched and well understood. In contrast there is virtually no documentation of what was done in the Americas and the ghastly genocidal slave trade that also brought Africa to its knees. The Catholic Church were witness to these events. Furthermore they had the facility to provide copious documentation. They have not. I’m afraid, instead, they’ve been pivotal in a massive, hypocritical cover-up
@ritchloui Now I understand. Slavery in the Americas. Slavery in the mercantile age was unspeakably cruel. The Dutch, English, Spanish, French and Portuguese all profited from it, but slavery was as old as history. Finally some of the Protestant Denominations, not the Catholic Church, rose against it and in the end it was the British Navy that destroyed it. I doubt that the Church profited from it but it certainly did not exert itself to end it. I don't know much about the documentation.
@trajan75 I’m staggered that you don’t think the Roman Church profited! Come on. They made an exclusivity deal with Spain and Portugal. It was the English/British who shone a light on the macabre bestiality of the entire slaving system. Yes, they too drank deeply from this evil draught, if this gives you comfort. I ask again; where are the admonitions, the outrage or simply any comment from the tens of thousands of literate Roman Catholic clerics who saw it all?
@ritchloui Apparently you won't take yes for an answer. I already said that it was the British Navy that ended the Atlantic slave trade, and that the Catholic Church never seriously dealt with the issue of slavery in Catholic nations. The Papal Bull of 1493 was an arbitration of a controversy submitted to the Papacy by two sovereign monarchs. Whatever its indirect consequences it did not directly involve the issue of slavery. You're obsessed you can have the last word.
@trajan75 ‘indirect consequences’; You are right. The Roman Church was mainly concerned about its plans for ‘heretics’ and unbelievers. The Medieval frescos of hell, torture and mass burnings of living people were depicting real events in the Americas and Africa. Hellfire was not an empty threat but a central tenet of the Roman Church’s persecutory ideology. Slavery was reserved only for the lucky ones. Obsessed? No, just getting the facts straight.
@ritchloui You could also go on to speak about it masking itself as a christian church which it clearly is not. Just to point you into the hallway of stepping stones to prove it is the Pope himself and his title. In English his title is the Vicor of Christ which mean in place of Christ. Which if you read the bible is well I will leave it to the Christians out there to follow from there.
@Edgrot Agreed. The Roman Catholic Church provides the perfect setting for cruel, manipulative, well educated men to forgive themselves as they brutalise and terrify children, the weak and the vulnerable. Their murderous sado-sexual ideology is an infection, like rabies. Their temples are heaving with obscene images of cruelty and absurd idealisations. In fact the more I’ve researched the subject the more obvious it to me that the RCC is, at its heart, entirely evil.
@Edgrot Agreed. The Roman Catholic Church provides the perfect setting for cruel, manipulative, well educated men to forgive themselves as they brutalise and terrify childre, the weak and the vulnerable. Their murderous sado-sexual ideology is an infection, like rabies. Their temples are heaving with obscene images of cruelty and absurd idealisations. In fact the more I’ve researched the subject the more obvious it to me that the RCC is, at its heart, entirely evil.
Pope Alexander VI Partitioning America in 1493 : “We, by the authority of almighty God … give, grant, assign, unto you, your heirs, and successors (the kings of Castile and Leon), all those lands and islands, with their dominions, territories, cities, castles, towers, places, and villages, with all the right and jurisdictions thereunto pertaining: constituting, assigning, and deputing, you, your heirs, and successors the lords thereof, with full and free power, authority, and jurisdiction.”
In 1492 the Roman Catholic Church partnered with Spain and Portugal as they set about divesting several continents of their peoples. Entire civilizations down to the last village in the Americas were emptied. By 1571 Portugal had forts and factories all along the West African coast. Here too, ancient and wealthy civilizations were to be left in ruins and some leaving no trace at all. This form of genocide evolved into what we now call slavery. The RCC has something to answer!
Although not a Catholic himself Prof:Jenkins has also written a book called Pedopiles and Priests which is the most balanced research to date and expells the myths of the liberal media.
@crafter111 I thought I'd look into this, what with his distinctive Irish accent, I wondered. But, I think you will find he is Roman Catholic. He is attempting something that is long overdue. the idea of catholicism. He needs a much broader reference than the RCC, or indeed Christianity, to get where he wants to go.
Con't... I also believe in general, the Catholic Church has alot of Shortcomings, and it seems like the Catholic Church has come above the law in terms of Pedophile priests, and willingly seeks to avoid the issue in order to save face, rather than doing what is right. It needs a whole lot of modernising in my opinion, and I believe that Protestantism holds the values and virtues that benefit the people, and sees the world with Optimism.
@Zaikomgisdabest The Catholic Church has a lot of shortcomings, true, and I like you am very troubled with how it dealt with those priests. However, having come out of Protestantism I came to the opinion that Catholicism is the most stable partly because it has not modernized to the same extent as Protestantism. As for optimism, there's a whole lot of that in the Church...certainly more than the Calvinism I grew up in. ;)
@TsarIvanIV OK, now that I think we have both calmed down a bit, it's nice to know we can have an intellectual discussion. Cabinets- is the term used to describe persons appointed by a head of state to head executive departments of government and act as official advisers. I acknowledge your views of Saints and Mary, but I still believe there is too much emphasis on them in the Catholic Church, personally. The Orthodox church venerates Saints and does not worship them to the same extent you do.
@Zaikomgisdabest I honestly have no idea about the Catholic/gov't thing....maybe that's a difference between our countries rather than our faiths. Again, the Church doesn't worship saints, it venerates them, same as you said about the Orthodox. And we have our theological reasons for placing emphasis on them. However, if you go to a mass, the entire liturgy is focused upon Jesus. That's who we worship.
Con't again. No Catholic in his right mind treats the Pope like God. He is a fallible human just like the rest of us. If anyone thinks the Pope is perfect sorry but they don't know their own faith very well.
We try to love Mary as Jesus loved her, and we think she's a good role model. Again, some get waaaaay to carried away with this. That's wrong, and the Church condemns it. Do your research; worship of Mary is firmly denounced.
I don't see how your cabinets mean anything about faith.
Con't....The problem with the priests is a big one. Many mistakes have been made that grieve a lot of us deeply. I'll be the first to denounce what has happened. However please keep mercy in your heart, because we are fallible humans as well, and we sin just as much as others. I don't approve of hiding the priests who have done such a thing, and it's wrong that it happened. Lots of Catholics agree with this. Please don't confuse our faith with the sins we commit.
@TsarIvanIV Thank you for being so intellectual and patient with explaining my faith. It just grieves me to see so much anti-Catholic and anti-Christian hate out there nowadays based on such generalizations that all Christians are crazy monkeys dancing around yelling everyone that they will die die die die!!!!
@ryuu304 No problem. I grew up Protestant actually, and only recently joined the Catholic Church after a long period of study and research. I find that logic tends to make better decisions and judgments than emotion. ;)
@Zaikomgisdabest Again, you don't seem to know our faith very well, though it is nice that you have Catholic friends.
We don't worship idols. We do pray before statues and icons. That's different. However, if you're going to hold that against us you had better apply the same standard to the Orthodox Church, because they also pray before icons. We use statues and icons to help us focus our prayer by looking at something. Think of it as a visual aid. Same as looking at a cross to pray.
One only has to come on to Youtube to see anti-catholicism. It is prejudice, but all one can do is present the Catholic faith in an intelligent and non literalist way. However, we do have freedom of expression. All I would say anyone who thinks Noah had all the species of the planet on his boat or Adam was instantaneously created from dust then all I would say is, these people have deep belief based on a literalist interpretation of scripture and believe they are saving Catholics from Hell.
Squatters poured over the border illegally settled. Congress turned a blind eye coveting the territory by false flag (texas). It made a decision to do this based on protestant notions of racial cultural and religious superiority over catholics.The most virulant strains of protestantism were expelled from Britain and settled north america. To them Catholics and first nation people were inferior and did not deserve stewardship/ ownership of the land. Of course America hates Catholics
I agree there is a growing anti-catholic sentiment out there and I've felt it myself!
I think what's missing here is the fact that the Vatican is very outspoken on controversial issues like abortion, euthansia, and same-sex marriage. They've also had issues with pedophile priests who make the religion look even worse. But I do agree there is alot of ignorance and misconceptions out there...
@ppfuchs Yes, it would seem that he in fact did. And, truth be told, it can be seen how this was the case in ways which make themselves readily obvious, sealing religion's place in the birth of the States even if the issue presented itself initially in the conflict in such a way that its substance in the scheme of events may be questioned by historians.
@Willowville I would go as far as stating that the "acquisition" of the southern US from Mexico was an expression of anti Catholocism. The use of kidnap, blackmail and extortion by holding the Mexican head of state (I note Santa Anna was a military dictator) literally for ransom in negotiating territorial settlement has a fundamental religious element. Mexico required large scale immigration, invited English speaking settlers on the condition the live as or convert to Catholocism.
This is very true. I just wonder why Dr.Phillip Jenkins left the Catholic Church. Episcopal is pretty similar at least with some sort of hierarchy and some type of liturgy.
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mikelheron20 1 month ago
Anti-Catholic sentiments are very strong in Scotland and it has become tolerated in Scottish society. My channel examines how this manifests itself in Scottish soccer, the country's most popular sport.
RFCWEARETHEPE0PLE 1 month ago
Yeah, they're going after the Catholic Church. Then it'll be all Christians. What people don't understand is that no one will be able to blame anybody but themselves before the Throne of Christ. Anti-Catholicism is a symptom of a world that has given up the sense of sin. Orthodox Christians believe the same beliefs but nobody attacks them. Christianity itself is in danger. Jesus said that He would never leave His Church. The Bride of Christ will follow her Lord through His cross,death, ressurect
bheadh 2 months ago
@bheadh believe the same beliefs ????
What the roman catholic empire believes to your face, and what they really believe behind your back and under their rock...are two different things. That's why their victims hate their guts.
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago
@dirtbagcatholics Dear Mr. Dirtbag, What everybody seems to forget is that we're ALL sinners. Even the Pope. The recent scandal at Penn State points this fact out. Does this mean that the entire faculty and staff at P.S. are also guilty of child abuse? C'mon. NOBODY is going to be able to blame the R.C.C. when they are the before the throne of Christ, ALONE. You obviously didn't listen to the vid. here.
bheadh 1 month ago
@dirtbagcatholics So what make you any better, Are you Mr. perfect? A hole
andreh58 1 month ago
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@bheadh ???>>>>Anti-Catholicism is a symptom of a world that<<<!! no longer will allow operatives of the ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE to burn people at the stake, and murder those who don't give homage to the pope in their beds...and get away with it.
dirtbagcatholics 1 month ago
You know all people do is target the people in the faith the faith itself is a good faith and of course theres bad people the Catholic religion did the best they could to hold the world together after the roman empire fell but that a huge strain. im tired off people always hating on catholics
XxGbBrianxX 3 months ago
@XxGbBrianxX Good catholics talk out of both sides of their mouth..
They believe that "A tree is judged by the fruit it bears." But then they say, "You can't judge a religion by the people in it." That's bullshit!
They say, " Well that's human nature. You get that anywhere." True. But if you get that anywhere, where is the need for a roman catholic church?????
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE! hint hint.
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago
Absolutely dead on. It can be very upsetting to listen to the tone of some things on even such a big player as CNN during a human interest piece. Look at some of the comenters here. This is hate speech and it is tolerated. I've been told that Catholics are evil, I've ended up saying that it's all a sense of style and evil is pretty old. Most Catholics would find two pregnant nuns as sort of funny. Two catamites with a priest is what they mean though.
nokomarie1963 3 months ago
@nokomarie1963 I'm a former sucker who was a hard charging practical catholic.
I learned two things.
1. Never turn your back on a so-called "good roman catholic"
2. You can't trust a "catholic school rat".
And....IT'S SYSTEMIC AND THE RESULT OF THE DESIRE FOR EARTHBOUND EMPIRE!!!
THE HATE THAT SO CALLED GOOD CATHOLICS GET IS HATE THAT THEY HAVE EARNED! THEY GET REAL VICIOUS AND AGGRESSIVE WHEN THEY THINK YOU HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO TURN!
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago
I would like to know who these powerful Catholics are. The Kennedys? The election of JFK was awful for Catholics in the USA because it opened the door for Catholics to become like "everyone else"- that is, people who separate their religion from everyday life (and politics). The Democrat Party used to be the "Catholic party" until the time of George McGovern when every anti social freak joined that part.
RomneyGack 5 months ago
@RomneyGack >>> "Yes, many people in the US are in nothing else if not suspicious of the Bride of Christ" - RomneyGack >>> Does this sound like the Bride of Christ?: "RELIGIONS make an important contribution in GUIDING HUMANITY towards a BETTER FUTURE. They help it TURN to God, Creator and Father of humankind. They position ALL PEOPLE in a WIDER, COMMON HORIZON. We accept this MISSION..." - Card. Reinhard Marx of Germany at the Sant' Egidio peace prayer meeting (Sept. 13, 2011) >>She's a harlot
stinkygeorgia1 4 months ago
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Well, why don't you ask God about it?
RomneyGack 4 months ago
I would like to know who these powerful Catholics are. The Kennedys? The election of JFK was awful for Catholics in the USA because it opened the door for Catholics to become like "everyone else"- that is, people who separate their religion from everyday life (and politics). The Democrat Party used to be the "Catholic party" until the time of George McGovern when every anti social freak joined that part. Yes, many people in the US are in nothing else if not suspicious of the Bride of Christ.
RomneyGack 5 months ago
@stinkygeorgia1
Amen
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
Professor Jenkins, you may call it "prejudice," but I call it exposure.
stinkygeorgia1 5 months ago
a lot of people in Roman Catholic Ireland hate the RCC because the multiple rapes of children and the cover ups. The hate is valid.
And if you go back 4 centuries or so. The RCC were murdering people for wanting to own a Bible!
So dont paint yourself as the victims.
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid I surely hope that you aren't deceiving yourself into thinking that there are no child molesters and child pornographers and perverts among your ranks. The difference is that they aren't Catholic priests, they are fundamentalists pastors.
andreh58 5 months ago
The thing is you wont see any covers up or have people sent over to tell the victims that they werent raped. I will send you a powerful testimony from a member of of a live audience. Who was treated like a liar by Rome. The Church I belong to has no stain on it. My Church is the Church of Jesus Christ. Its not of this World. Anyways! isnt that crazy that the RCC has been in controversy for CENTURIES with Rape, Murder, Oppression and that SATANIC teaching of Indulgences. The One True Church, LOL
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid Whomever is without sin can throw the first stone.
andreh58 5 months ago
@andreh58
Trust a Roman Catholic to quote Scripture without the proper respect or knowledge.
John 7:24
"Stop judging by mere appearances, and make a right judgment"
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid I knew you'd get.LOL
andreh58 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid Boy, you sure are one judgemental and hostile person. Are you sure you are of God?
andreh58 5 months ago
@andreh58
lol
Seems the pagan feels threatened by a Godly man who speaks the Christian Truth.
You debate Christian matters with me be sure I will bring down the full weight of the Gospel upon you.
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
@andreh58
"It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites"
Yet he will not find one untrue word.
"Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands"
Look at his channel & look at mine. Who is living the fuller life and who contributes to Youtube!
"who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes"
Jesus believes because by His Father's Word you are belonging to a false pagan church.
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
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@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
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@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
@andreh58
"It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites"
Yet he will not find one untrue word.
"Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands"
Look at his channel & look at mine. Who is living the fuller life and who contributes to Youtube!
"who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes"
Jesus believes because by His Father's Word you are belonging to a false pagan church.
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
@ImagesByDavid Get thee behind me SATAN! Stop emailing me "Mr. Popularity". You are truley a hateful Wack Job.
andreh58 5 months ago
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@andreh58
You can see the Romanist can not engage in debate but always resorting to false witness.
1 Timothy 4:1-3
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain meats"
ImagesByDavid 5 months ago
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@andreh58 The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the Age of Accountability and celebrates Pagan holidays Like Christmas and Easter Also pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
Mcstroke57 4 months ago
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@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
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@ImagesByDavid Threatened. Hardly. Please. LOL. It's you who's logging in and harassing Catholic sites. Either you are a lonely bitter man with too much time on their hands or someone who thinks they can bully others behind their keyboards with their ridiculous nonsense about Catholic that no one believes except you and other holy roller types. Go handle a snake or somethings, oh supreme religious leader without any followers.
andreh58 5 months ago
Is everyone on the site mean and defensive?
andreh58 6 months ago
Glad to hear it. I was describing the circular reasoning which Catholicism is based on. If you see through their baloney I congradulate you. Many people are still deceived.
MightyCarnac 7 months ago
@HumanVersion2 I have more education than a Ph.D. Are personal attacks all you can fall back on.
The statistics are for the U.S. Nice dodge on whether you have attended grad school, or not. OK.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@HumanVersion2 In the U.S. I can take it you have not been to grad school. Go to college and get a lesson in context.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@HumanVersion2 Yes Human, those 1 1/2 kids a year are so numerous! I mean, how does that number compare with the 5,000 kids raped by family members every year?!
redeemerslove 7 months ago
CATHOLICISM= THE INITIATED HOUSE OF HOMOSEXUALITY, VIA THE MOLESTATION OF YOUNG BOYS AND THE FURTHER DESTRUCTION OF ETHNIC PEOPLE THROUGH EURO CENTRIC SOCIAL ENGINEERING AND VALUES , IM SO GLAD THESE PEOPLE CAME FORTH TO REVEAL THIS EXTENSION OF HELLENISTIC GREECE. THERE IS SOME POETIC JUSTICE IN THIS NEGATIVE DECEPTIVE WORLD AFTER ALL.
davisismail1comcast 7 months ago
@davisismail1comcast Look Davis, a ignoramus. How surprising! How shocking! There is a ignoramus like you on Youtube?!
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@davisismail1comcast You seem mentally ill.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@redeemerslove LOL If this is the best you can do ha ha, then you need to go back to your Greco Roman cave and study, and i mean study real hard, and look in the mirror. You won't though because you don't have that kind of integrity, so when i get through with you factually , all you are going to be able to do is through yet more INFANTILE insults and not deal with the facts. As to my sanity on the contrary calcified pineal im so sane that it scares the living hell out of you.
davisismail1comcast 7 months ago
@davisismail1comcast I don't need to do anything better. Typing in all caps? What's the matter, got a "pay attention to me" deficit? It was not intended as an insult, you definitely seem mentally ill.
This is from a counselor of twelve years. Get some help. God Bless you.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@CrazyJvlog Amen.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
"Up yours," Phillip Jenkins. That CULT was willing to let my eternal soul be sent to HELL by telling me, as a Catholic child, that it was the only "True Church." What a bunch of crap. Not until I was born again, in my apartment, alone with God's Holy Spirit, did all of this myth fall away.
Get with it Jenkins. Read some church history: James Wylie "The History of Protestantism" is available on-line for free. There, it is revealed that the Catholic cult IS a dark and sinister religion!!
Exsullent1 8 months ago
In America there's no obligation to respect any religion, not even Catholicism. I respect the rights of Catholic people. I do not Catholicism and I need not make excuses for that. Besides, last I checked Catholics have the same freedom to practice their superstitions as the rest of us. Finally, and nobody can deny this, the negative attitudes many folks have against Catholicism is justified by the actions of the clergy. Need I say more?
MightyCarnac 9 months ago
@MightyCarnac American has no divine authority. I don't care what America says in the religious sphere.
redeemerslove 8 months ago
@redeemerslove And what is your authority to dictate to the divine?
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods."
--Albert Einstein
The words "shipwrecked" & "gods" are used metaphorically here. I think you get the idea.
MightyCarnac 8 months ago
@MightyCarnac
"Whatever you bind on Earth is bound in Heaven whatever you loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven" (Matt 18:18).
"He who hears you hears me" (Luke 10:16).
redeemerslove 8 months ago
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MightyCarnac 8 months ago
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MightyCarnac 8 months ago
@MightyCarnac I never said that the Bible is true because the Church says so. I never addressed the question.
redeemerslove 7 months ago
@MightyCarnac A microscopic number of priests (0.079%) are engaged in that kind of behavior. Thank God to the 99.921% who are not.
redeemerslove 8 months ago
@redeemerslove A small percentage of a large number can be a lot. It certainly argues against the doctrine that priests operate "In persona Christi".
MightyCarnac 8 months ago
@MightyCarnac There are 49,000 priests in the U.S. There are 1.5 cases per year, which is declining. Do you need me to calculate the actual number of priests who engaged in this behavior over the last 50 years, or can you do it yourself?
redeemerslove 8 months ago
@redeemerslove There's been thousands of "cases" as you call them in the U.S. alone. And legal judgements in the hundreds of millions of dollars -- in the U.S. alone. But the point I was really making was that priests claim to act "In persona Christi". In the person of Christ. An unsupportable superstition.
MightyCarnac 8 months ago
@MightyCarnac
“To whom you forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes I forgave it IN THE PERSON OF CHRIST” (2 Cor 2:10).
You do not know Scripture.
redeemerslove 8 months ago
@redeemerslove "the priest, by virtue of the sacrament of Holy Orders, acts in persona Christi Capitis"
--Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1548
It sounds good, looks very well on paper but if you believe that you haven't been paying attention.
MightyCarnac 8 months ago
@MightyCarnac You make no sense. This conversation is over. Adios.
redeemerslove 8 months ago
@redeemerslove Happy trails to you.
MightyCarnac 8 months ago
You only have to read the comments to prove how deeply bigoted and ignorant Americans are. You fools have proven this man's point.
r5t9m0 9 months ago
I like the bit he added about "Historical mythology." Thats a huge part to why Anti Catholicism usually makes no sense.
Freakonaleash92 9 months ago
I love how so called "Christians" use the Catholic written book on christianity called the Bible as their reference to attack the Catholic Church!!! Ha! makes alot of sense Einstien
JamesFrancis1000 9 months ago
@s There is always room for improvement of character, even in the noblest of savages. Failure to respect the life ways of First Nations will probably be regretted at some point in our Nation's history, if in fact that time has not come upon us now. But to belittle the good that was and is being done by the RCC is to be blind to any good that can come from any source, which is to deny the Author of all good, namely the Creator Himself.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@s While it may seem difficult, it must not be impossible to perfect human nature. Many examples exist. They are called Saints. Jesus told his disciples "Be ye therefore perfect, as my Father in Heaven is perfect". God's ways are not our ways, and though "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", the possibility for perfection still exists. "There must be a Hell, for then what in Heaven's Name would heaven be for"
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
Each culture has a genius to contribute to the world, and over-arching set of virtues that are manifested in the best and brightest among their cultures. No culture is perfect; God would not have needed to single out Israel to be the Chosen People if such was not needed. God's timing is always perfect, and He never makes mistakes. Men may plot evil, but God plans are for Good, and His plans never fail. The trajectory of history runs through the Eucharist, and Reconciliation.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
Other tribes have assimilated remarkably well to the dominant culture, and their traditional ways have assisted them in rejecting the bad effects of modernism. A NA friend of mine from the past told me yrs ago that " Us Indians are going to put you white guys on Reservations; we're gonna call them Gambling Casinos".
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
from the greed and incompetence of gov't agents, the BIA. Unfortunately, as Wounded Knee showed, the Federal Agents who sided with the modernists destroyed an authentic attempt to bring back some pride and autonomy to those who wished to find comfort and meaning in old traditions. I can relate to that because the RCC has Traditions that are often scoffed at, too.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@s Sir, I depend on Ohiheysa to inform me of the effects of the Christianization on the First Nations, for he was there during the critical transition period. His life exhibits the best effects of both cultures." Love wills the highest and best good for the sake of the beloved". The deplorable state of dependency of First Nations peoples is principally a failure of the white and red cultures to blend & share the best aspects of both cultures, and conquered & defeated have suffered
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@s "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's; unto God that which is God"s". I will therefore leave to God the ultimate judgement of the heart of Black Elk; may God forgive him his sins, me mine, and you yours. I have found the Catholic Church to be a natural home for all those who have kept open the possibility of there being answers to the most difficult questions of life, and that the answers will be made available to the humbled heart.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@s ..ation Chapel at a Catholic Church. I opened my heart, and asked "What are you trying to tell me?" and it was revealed to me that Jesus is truly Present in the Most Blessed Sacrament. I am sure this is what happened with Ben Black Elk. He was shown Power of the Holy Spirit resides with the Presence of Jesus, the Lord of Creation, is attached to the Catholic Church. As the Catholic Church goes, so goes the world. Divine Mercy & Justice, Nature&Supernature reside there.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@s I can relate to your spiritual philosophy; I considered myself a full-on Pagan, attaching my spirituality to "Earth-centered" religions, and I studied and adapted my spirituality from the writings and lives of Native American spiritual greats like Black Elk, Stalking Wolf, Ohiyesa ( Charles Eastman)etc. I fasted and prayed in nature,always asking "what are you trying to tell me?". I was skeptical of "organized religion", but prayed the "skeptic's" prayer.I happened to go to an Ador (Con'td)
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
One of the effects of pervasive and offensive Anti-Catholicism is that some will be led to attempt to prove all that has been said about the RCC is true, rather than blindly accept that the charges are true. Finding the charges are rather overwhelmingly and easily proven false certainly opens one's eyes to a challenging new understanding of everything, including history, so pervasive is Anti-Catholicism in this culture (American). I found the truth, and now I am a recovering Anti-Catholic.
finishstrongdoc 10 months ago
@finishstrongdoc Yup. I was a bandwagon anti-cath Protestant. I got sick of all the discord in it and started looking elsewhere. I put the emotional arguments on the side (CRUSADES BLABLABLA) and just examined the core tenants and history and hell yeah does it change your whole view of history. I had to convert after realizing NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE. WOOT!
WoundedIcon 10 months ago
@finishstrongdoc One thing I notice is that all other forms of Christianity are negative religions. Not negative as in evil or sad, but negative in terms of existing in reaction to something else. Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism both engage in cathbashing, whereas Catholicism just kinda *is*.
WoundedIcon 10 months ago
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@NotByBreadAlone77 -- Utter and total bull shit. Look at any help line statistics and you will find the real answer and not a Rome engineered answer.
Hi all. Here is an interesting video, it is worth watching. Search YouTube for -
"how to protect your kids against PEDOPHILE PRIESTS "
goinghomesomeday1 11 months ago
@selenadelos You may know that Pope Benedict XVI came to the UK last year. The first ever Papal state visit to these shores, its old and eternal enemy. The weird thing was how impressed I was. It was all so incredibly spectacular with ecstatic crowds. I found myself being slightly in love with Benedict too. It’s a powerful mix, a trinity of the awesome, the beautiful and the terrible all in one. If there’s a God I think He’d prefer us to trust Him enough not to believe in Him at all, so I don’t
ritchloui 1 year ago
@selenadelos Agreed. You might be interested in the subsequent discussion I had with an apologist for the RCC.
ritchloui 1 year ago
Having granted the New World to Spain and Portugal the Pope also decreed “….It shall therefore be lawful for no man to infringe or rashly to contradict this letter of our commendation, exhortation …commandment, inhibition, and determination. And if any shall presume to attempt the same, he ought to know that he shall thereby incur the indignation of Almighty God and his holy Apostles, Peter and Paul.” ( para 12, Papal Bull Partitioning America 1493)
ritchloui 1 year ago
The Roman Catholic Church at its height was a terrifying, sadistic and incredibly brutal slaving machine. Why do Americans completely ignore the history of the New World? You cannot understand the north without knowing that the entire southern continent were reduced to slavery by 1530. All Amerindian cities and farming civilizations in both continents were smashed by 1560. That’s why only the plains Indians, who left a light footprint, survived.
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui This is absolute nonsense. In the first place, you're cherry picking history. There was a great deal of good done by the missionaries in the Americas. The Jesuits for example tried to protect Native Americans from their Portuguese and Spanish oppressors. Secondly, you totally white wash the Native American culture. The Caribe tribe fattened and ate Taino babies. The Iroquois committed genocide against the Hurons. Human sacrifice was a regular part of the Aztec and Inca religions.
trajan75 1 year ago
@trajan75 Interesting that you yourself are only aware of what the Roman Church itself has propagated. It mattered not at all what the natives were about. They were slaughtered and enslaved anyway. You trot out clichés about evil natives and kindly priests. The hypocrisy is alive and well in the carefully crafted narratives that excused and explained it all away. Another example of the Roman Church’s spiritual leadership at its height.
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui Don't tell me what I'm aware of. Every educated Catholic knows what the faults of the Church. Dante put a number of its prelates in his Inferno. I wasn't "trotting out cliches". I was just trying to give some balance to your one sided presentation. Natives weren't evil. They were brave and long suffering as well as primitive.As long as the Church is run by humans it will number sinners as well as Saints in its ranks. But you only see the flaws.
trajan75 1 year ago
@trajan75 How ‘primitive’ the natives were we’ll never know. They only lacked weapons made of steel. Remember, the European advances in science started after that time. Again, no thanks to the RCC. The horror unleashed on the native Indians and Africans was in keeping with the horrors unleashed all over Europe – by the same persecutory ideology. We all know the Roman Church is run by humans, its enemies have been saying so for hundreds of years. On this we are agreed
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui I can see that this discussion is going nowhere. We can all sit back and name an atrocity. Protestants killed on St Valentine's Day. Irish Catholics massacred by Cromwell, French Catholics in the Vendee slaughtered by the Revolution etc. You want to single out Catholic misdeeds fine. My position is that over the centuries the Church has done much more good than harm. I can easily defend that position, but so what? You are not amenable to reason, and you only think you know history.
trajan75 1 year ago
I’m not satisfied by the counter examples you give; they are all well documented, well researched and well understood. In contrast there is virtually no documentation of what was done in the Americas and the ghastly genocidal slave trade that also brought Africa to its knees. The Catholic Church were witness to these events. Furthermore they had the facility to provide copious documentation. They have not. I’m afraid, instead, they’ve been pivotal in a massive, hypocritical cover-up
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui Now I understand. Slavery in the Americas. Slavery in the mercantile age was unspeakably cruel. The Dutch, English, Spanish, French and Portuguese all profited from it, but slavery was as old as history. Finally some of the Protestant Denominations, not the Catholic Church, rose against it and in the end it was the British Navy that destroyed it. I doubt that the Church profited from it but it certainly did not exert itself to end it. I don't know much about the documentation.
trajan75 1 year ago
@trajan75 I’m staggered that you don’t think the Roman Church profited! Come on. They made an exclusivity deal with Spain and Portugal. It was the English/British who shone a light on the macabre bestiality of the entire slaving system. Yes, they too drank deeply from this evil draught, if this gives you comfort. I ask again; where are the admonitions, the outrage or simply any comment from the tens of thousands of literate Roman Catholic clerics who saw it all?
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui Apparently you won't take yes for an answer. I already said that it was the British Navy that ended the Atlantic slave trade, and that the Catholic Church never seriously dealt with the issue of slavery in Catholic nations. The Papal Bull of 1493 was an arbitration of a controversy submitted to the Papacy by two sovereign monarchs. Whatever its indirect consequences it did not directly involve the issue of slavery. You're obsessed you can have the last word.
trajan75 1 year ago
@trajan75 ‘indirect consequences’; You are right. The Roman Church was mainly concerned about its plans for ‘heretics’ and unbelievers. The Medieval frescos of hell, torture and mass burnings of living people were depicting real events in the Americas and Africa. Hellfire was not an empty threat but a central tenet of the Roman Church’s persecutory ideology. Slavery was reserved only for the lucky ones. Obsessed? No, just getting the facts straight.
ritchloui 1 year ago
@ritchloui You could also go on to speak about it masking itself as a christian church which it clearly is not. Just to point you into the hallway of stepping stones to prove it is the Pope himself and his title. In English his title is the Vicor of Christ which mean in place of Christ. Which if you read the bible is well I will leave it to the Christians out there to follow from there.
Edgrot 1 year ago
@Edgrot Agreed. The Roman Catholic Church provides the perfect setting for cruel, manipulative, well educated men to forgive themselves as they brutalise and terrify children, the weak and the vulnerable. Their murderous sado-sexual ideology is an infection, like rabies. Their temples are heaving with obscene images of cruelty and absurd idealisations. In fact the more I’ve researched the subject the more obvious it to me that the RCC is, at its heart, entirely evil.
ritchloui 1 year ago
@Edgrot Agreed. The Roman Catholic Church provides the perfect setting for cruel, manipulative, well educated men to forgive themselves as they brutalise and terrify childre, the weak and the vulnerable. Their murderous sado-sexual ideology is an infection, like rabies. Their temples are heaving with obscene images of cruelty and absurd idealisations. In fact the more I’ve researched the subject the more obvious it to me that the RCC is, at its heart, entirely evil.
ritchloui 1 year ago
Pope Alexander VI Partitioning America in 1493 : “We, by the authority of almighty God … give, grant, assign, unto you, your heirs, and successors (the kings of Castile and Leon), all those lands and islands, with their dominions, territories, cities, castles, towers, places, and villages, with all the right and jurisdictions thereunto pertaining: constituting, assigning, and deputing, you, your heirs, and successors the lords thereof, with full and free power, authority, and jurisdiction.”
ritchloui 1 year ago
In 1492 the Roman Catholic Church partnered with Spain and Portugal as they set about divesting several continents of their peoples. Entire civilizations down to the last village in the Americas were emptied. By 1571 Portugal had forts and factories all along the West African coast. Here too, ancient and wealthy civilizations were to be left in ruins and some leaving no trace at all. This form of genocide evolved into what we now call slavery. The RCC has something to answer!
ritchloui 1 year ago
Although not a Catholic himself Prof:Jenkins has also written a book called Pedopiles and Priests which is the most balanced research to date and expells the myths of the liberal media.
crafter111 1 year ago
@crafter111 I thought I'd look into this, what with his distinctive Irish accent, I wondered. But, I think you will find he is Roman Catholic. He is attempting something that is long overdue. the idea of catholicism. He needs a much broader reference than the RCC, or indeed Christianity, to get where he wants to go.
ritchloui 1 year ago
This is what happens:
Religion A is assaulted by Religion B. Religion A assaults Religion B back. Religion B strikes Religion A back...and so on so forth...
ryuu304 1 year ago
Con't... I also believe in general, the Catholic Church has alot of Shortcomings, and it seems like the Catholic Church has come above the law in terms of Pedophile priests, and willingly seeks to avoid the issue in order to save face, rather than doing what is right. It needs a whole lot of modernising in my opinion, and I believe that Protestantism holds the values and virtues that benefit the people, and sees the world with Optimism.
Zaikomgisdabest 1 year ago
@Zaikomgisdabest The Catholic Church has a lot of shortcomings, true, and I like you am very troubled with how it dealt with those priests. However, having come out of Protestantism I came to the opinion that Catholicism is the most stable partly because it has not modernized to the same extent as Protestantism. As for optimism, there's a whole lot of that in the Church...certainly more than the Calvinism I grew up in. ;)
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago
@TsarIvanIV OK, now that I think we have both calmed down a bit, it's nice to know we can have an intellectual discussion. Cabinets- is the term used to describe persons appointed by a head of state to head executive departments of government and act as official advisers. I acknowledge your views of Saints and Mary, but I still believe there is too much emphasis on them in the Catholic Church, personally. The Orthodox church venerates Saints and does not worship them to the same extent you do.
Zaikomgisdabest 1 year ago
@Zaikomgisdabest I honestly have no idea about the Catholic/gov't thing....maybe that's a difference between our countries rather than our faiths. Again, the Church doesn't worship saints, it venerates them, same as you said about the Orthodox. And we have our theological reasons for placing emphasis on them. However, if you go to a mass, the entire liturgy is focused upon Jesus. That's who we worship.
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago
Con't again. No Catholic in his right mind treats the Pope like God. He is a fallible human just like the rest of us. If anyone thinks the Pope is perfect sorry but they don't know their own faith very well.
We try to love Mary as Jesus loved her, and we think she's a good role model. Again, some get waaaaay to carried away with this. That's wrong, and the Church condemns it. Do your research; worship of Mary is firmly denounced.
I don't see how your cabinets mean anything about faith.
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago
Con't....The problem with the priests is a big one. Many mistakes have been made that grieve a lot of us deeply. I'll be the first to denounce what has happened. However please keep mercy in your heart, because we are fallible humans as well, and we sin just as much as others. I don't approve of hiding the priests who have done such a thing, and it's wrong that it happened. Lots of Catholics agree with this. Please don't confuse our faith with the sins we commit.
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago
@TsarIvanIV Thank you for being so intellectual and patient with explaining my faith. It just grieves me to see so much anti-Catholic and anti-Christian hate out there nowadays based on such generalizations that all Christians are crazy monkeys dancing around yelling everyone that they will die die die die!!!!
ryuu304 1 year ago
@ryuu304 No problem. I grew up Protestant actually, and only recently joined the Catholic Church after a long period of study and research. I find that logic tends to make better decisions and judgments than emotion. ;)
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago 2
@Zaikomgisdabest Again, you don't seem to know our faith very well, though it is nice that you have Catholic friends.
We don't worship idols. We do pray before statues and icons. That's different. However, if you're going to hold that against us you had better apply the same standard to the Orthodox Church, because they also pray before icons. We use statues and icons to help us focus our prayer by looking at something. Think of it as a visual aid. Same as looking at a cross to pray.
TsarIvanIV 1 year ago
One only has to come on to Youtube to see anti-catholicism. It is prejudice, but all one can do is present the Catholic faith in an intelligent and non literalist way. However, we do have freedom of expression. All I would say anyone who thinks Noah had all the species of the planet on his boat or Adam was instantaneously created from dust then all I would say is, these people have deep belief based on a literalist interpretation of scripture and believe they are saving Catholics from Hell.
modomnoc1 1 year ago
Squatters poured over the border illegally settled. Congress turned a blind eye coveting the territory by false flag (texas). It made a decision to do this based on protestant notions of racial cultural and religious superiority over catholics.The most virulant strains of protestantism were expelled from Britain and settled north america. To them Catholics and first nation people were inferior and did not deserve stewardship/ ownership of the land. Of course America hates Catholics
euqsabtnatillim 1 year ago
I agree there is a growing anti-catholic sentiment out there and I've felt it myself!
I think what's missing here is the fact that the Vatican is very outspoken on controversial issues like abortion, euthansia, and same-sex marriage. They've also had issues with pedophile priests who make the religion look even worse. But I do agree there is alot of ignorance and misconceptions out there...
all028 1 year ago
Thank you Mr. Jenkins, at last someone understands! This is a notion that all must understand in order to reach true tolerance.
Sombreron81 1 year ago
Did he actually say the American Revolution was a response to anti-Catholicism?
ppfuchs 1 year ago
@ppfuchs Yes, it would seem that he in fact did. And, truth be told, it can be seen how this was the case in ways which make themselves readily obvious, sealing religion's place in the birth of the States even if the issue presented itself initially in the conflict in such a way that its substance in the scheme of events may be questioned by historians.
Willowville 1 year ago
@Willowville I would go as far as stating that the "acquisition" of the southern US from Mexico was an expression of anti Catholocism. The use of kidnap, blackmail and extortion by holding the Mexican head of state (I note Santa Anna was a military dictator) literally for ransom in negotiating territorial settlement has a fundamental religious element. Mexico required large scale immigration, invited English speaking settlers on the condition the live as or convert to Catholocism.
euqsabtnatillim 1 year ago
A prerequisite for discrimination is that people don't see anything wrong with it. They "know" it's true.
TenderTrap86 1 year ago
This is very true. I just wonder why Dr.Phillip Jenkins left the Catholic Church. Episcopal is pretty similar at least with some sort of hierarchy and some type of liturgy.
Dage90 1 year ago
im writing a 5 page report on this guy for university...... soooo intresting
ryguy272 1 year ago
this guys a fucking genius
ned262626 2 years ago
very well documented and totally accurate
ecclesiaprimus 2 years ago 2