Joe Rogan = JOKE, Eddie Bravo is a joke, Jason Chambers is laughable, all the UFC fighters that claim Eddie Bravo as their instructor=BIG JOKE. Eddie and Joe's involvement with MMA is a knee slapper.
Anybody that rolls at 10th Planet is a dork and an idiot.
In other words, all you 10th planet spammers are just pumping your own poles when you talk about Eddie as legit. Sorry for you that he fooled you into believing him. He's a joke among serious cross trained fighters.
If that was true, how come you see very few MMA fighters using TKD and almost every MMA fighter familiar with BJJ? The martial arts like TKD, Karate, Savate, etc that didn't have a ground component got humiliated in the first UFCs. I'd go so far as to say that a good high school wrestler could probably take any TKD master in a one on one fight most of the time.
Oh no, you didn't just post that I has no core nor meaning did you? Of all the things you could have said that wouldn't pierce my heart like a poison arrow,you just happen to hit the bulls-eye of defamery with your random choice of insults.
A pox on you for that. Just leave me alone and stop hurting my sensitivities you ruffian.
I cant believe you guys, you hate and post craps that has no core nor meaning, u say bullshit and? u say shit on evry bravo video and yet you watch every bravo video you see? just get out, leave the 10th PJJ dont watch the vids if you want to keep hatin then keep it to yourself, the guy dont take any credits for himself, on his other interviews he give credits to his mates saying that he's not alone doing this thing. dont watch if you have so much prob and just STOP HATIN
Sotiropolous got his behind kicked, Prokopos got whupped, Mitrione walloped. Help me out here, anybody from 10thplanet ever maintained a winning record? Their competition record is a little suspicious. In both BJJ and MMA.
Now if Bravo would stop opening McDojos and stop making wild claims of "inventing" shit, and stick to teaching Hollywood gayboys how to cluster fuck in the shower rooms, people would stop hatin on 10thP.
@MrJamesbragan sotiropolous kills everyone on the ground, he got his behind kicked in the stand up, prokopos was killing his oponent on the ground and he got caught with a punch, when 10th planet guys hit the ground thats when the system shows itself, not in stand up
@MrJamesbragan I think 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu is still in major development. No fighter with a certain BJJ affiliation will be undefeated. I think 10th Planet needs many more black belts to instruct because they seem pretty short-handed right now. It's too soon to see just how legit 10th Planet can be. I'll give them a few more years. It seems VERY interesting to me, personally.
How are they gonna get black belts if they don't have gis or wear belts? Plus, you'd think if the claims this video made were true, you'd see 10th Planet guys winning no gi grappling tournaments like Abu Dhabi, but you don't. The guys who do well in the no gi tournaments are usually the same guys who do well in gi tournaments.
@underdg22 Just because they don't wear their belts doesn't mean they can't earn it. I'm from a traditional jiu-jitsu school and we have no gi classes and nobody wears their belts. Seriously man? It's not a big deal, but I'm surprised you even said that, makes me wonder how qualified you are. And again, there's only about 5 black belts, not including Eddie Bravo. Majority aren't athletic, so it's hard to say, Give it time. There are too many competitors to expect that from one new school.
You misunderstood my point about belts. If you NEVER wear bets, like at 10th Planet, what's the point of awarding belts? The only point of wearing a belt is to distinguish among the skill levels of the people wearing a gi. Without the gi, there is no point in awarding belts to distinguish people. Their record in competition (or sparring) is what sets them apart unless bravo starts awarding patches or something. It doesn't make sense to award belts to people that don't wear them.
@MrJamesbragan ill help you out here, sotiropolous got beat on his feet any other fight you watch with him that goes to the ground he dominates with this system and as for mitrione he has no base in bjj and hasnt been training very long at all.
Jason Chambers = queer, Joe Rogan = queer, Ebby Bravo = queer, George Sotirwhatablapos = queer, Denny Propokos =queer. Everybody on those mats are queers. 10thplanet is strictly for the anally penetrated.
I do Jap Ju-Jutsu with a Gi.I've started researching Eddie Bravo and adapting the style I learn with Eddies style in my own time and all I can say is it works.I'm catching guys out a lot more because they don't expect whats coming.Being able to defend against a guy wearing a t-shirt or no shirt is also a big deal to me as I've never been in a street fight with someone wearing a Gi.The haters should try it.Once they discover it works for them,they'll love it.If not ,then they'll be tapped out.
No gi system is cool. But i don't fight often nor do i want to. But, for hawaiians, brasilians, aussies, and cali, Miami and coney island beach goers this is great.
The more rules fighters have to abide by the less the fighters can perform at her or his deadly arts. Example WING CHUN KUNG FU or VIKING HEAD SMASHING...Many organized sports fighting claims to be 'As REAL as IT GETS'..but not for those VIKING HEAD SMASHING type folks out there and not for WING CHUN KUNG FU folk specifically DR. SCOTT MULLEN Wing Chun Kung Fu. Call and Chat with him or simply TOUCH HANDS to understand. Knowledge is Potential power.
i really like the 10th planet system and the moves Eddie bravo is gonna have a seminar and i will attend but the flexibility is kinda getting to you in a way were your just gonna say that's enough
Good case point with Aoki, however you could make that argument with anything "Tai Chi would work great in MMA if people would just put in the time" people like Dan Hardy, Chuck Liddell have put forth the time and get beat by old-school gi jitz guys. Sean Bollinger is supposed to be Yoda at RG and was unable to use it effectively against Ryan Couture. Furthermore, Dream is not the high echelons of MMA, my theory is that he would be unsuccessful in against Strikeforce/UFC cal
Remember how you trained as a white belt, clenching up as hard as you can against your opponents? To get better and progress you had to learn to open up and flow, move your hips and let your opponent do all the work? 10P is like an entire jitz game based on that white-belt philosophy; "constant pressure from unorthodox positions"
@mok0s1 some people have limited success with the rubber guard at the low levels of combat sports and especially in the gym, it is not used by top competition because it is harmful to the knees, compromises the strength of the legs, opens your guard, totally inhibits hip movement and has a overall low percentage of success.
@lsloewen2 Yeah, all of that is true... if you SUCK at rubber guard. The real reason why it's not commonly used in top level competitions is because they haven't learned how it actually works and put the numbers in developing it. It's to be expected. How are you going to make rubber guard work in a fight if you're not killing people with it in the gym. Look at Shinya Aoki. He's made the rubber guard work especially well for him because he spent an ungodly amount of time training it.
BJJ revolutionized the entire world of martial arts in one night! After UFC 1 things were changed instantly, the tough part was getting it to a venue for the world to see. 10P has had the same chance if not more of one. Look at the short spans of time were MMA itself was introduced to new things; Ground and Pound, Sprawl and Brawl, Machida's karate, if things are effective; the majority of fighters adopt it quick. Just because something is MARKETED as the next big new thing doe
It's funny how many 10th planet "disciples" get off at being SO OPEN MINDED. People forget that even Bruce Lee thought it was important to DISCARD what doesn't work. It's been what, 8 years since 10P was created? Shouldn't it have revolutionized things by now? It hasn't because it is fundamentally BAD JIU JITSU
@lsloewen2 bad jiu jitsu... I train in gracie humaitá and one day I decided to prove what was going on with this rubber guard and man, I can assure you that I triangled and omoplated every students in the class
Jason Chambers is an idiot. He has no significant accomplishments in MMA, He is not "really good friends" with "Renzo and a bunch of the Gracies" they probobly don't even know his name, the guy is a complete poser. How can someone with so little experience in high-level jiu-jitsu and MMA make a judgement on the future of both?
@NikeSbSbSbSb did you even watch the video? He made the 10th planet SYSTEM... not the position. He made the rubber guard more effective and do-able with no Gi... watch the last thing Rogan says at the very end of the video plz.
@Barrett I admit I am very biased toward the Gracies and was very surprised to hear the news that Royler may be backing out. Seeing Bravo had not competed for so long I figured he would be the one to not compete. I am shocked and disappointed that this rematch may not happen. After the first match the Rolyer fans, myself included, kept saying that Bravo caught him and if they fought again Royler would dominate. I saw this as a way to settle that argument. Hopefully Royler will agree to fig
@elmustacho I love the Gracie's, i mean truly, they are gods in my eyes ahaha xD but Bravo is an amazing man and I just see him as like a creation of the gods that are the Gracies, and like us humans, as their creation he took what he was given and created his own methods(like us creating tools of war and nukes and everything) ahaha xP Gracies forever! Bravo forever! 10th Pkanet forever! Jiu Jitsu for all of eternity!!!! hahaha xD
@elmustacho Unfortunately their rematch isn't happening, at least not at the moment. Apparently a week after Gracie accepted the match, he told the promoters that he wants $50,000 just to appear, in addition to the $25,000 he would get if he won the match. The promoters said no to his request.
So now Bravo is trying to raise the money himself through donations. Leo Vieira says that if the rematch doesn’t happen, he’s would step in for Gracie and “smash” Bravo again.
said "I think the ideal of Eddie's system scares a lot of Gracie affiliates because they don't want the art they helped popularized to forget and leave them behind. This is insane of course. No one ever deny what the Gracies have done for Jiu-Jitsu and MMA."
True. Just like jiujitsu (may have been influenced by Chinese chin na) influence the develope of judo. And then judo (leaving Kosen judo aside) influence the devlopement of BJJ. And BJJ has influence American newaza.
Next evolution my ass, and no one hates the 10th planet system. We hate morons like Jason Chambers saying its revolutionary and putting down BJJ, or Implying that the legends that practice now are simply practicing Old, stagnant, antiquated techniques. According to the 10th planet guys anyways.
I like to look at the martial arts as tools. A jab is a tool, rounhouse is a tool a single leg take down is a tool. Like any tool they all have their time and place. If a tool gets the job done and it does it well then why would you not use it?
Nope. Its just because CERTAIN American practitioners are innotative enough to develope their own newaza techniques outside the old Gracie curriculum.
@1NX9 And then they shit on the Mundial winners, the BJ Pens who are GI players and are legends in MMA, and say "YOUR STYLE IS AN ANACHRONISM, ITS OLD, THIS IS NEW AND BETTER".
They shit on the Braulio Estimas, the Marcello Garcias, the Cobrinas. They need to give it up right? Flock to eddie and learn his techniques?
I NEVER said training in a gi is new. Where do I say that? Dont put words in my mouth. ass hole.
What they are doing is training WITHOUT gi.
How is 10th BJJ evolve you ask? eg many rubber guard tech. eg greater emphasis on no gi tech etc.
First of all whether someone is a good technical fighter is one thing. Its another thing if they have actually created new techniques in ground fighting.
oh man you should feel the haters in New Zealand heaps of stand up guys that think its gay men hugging on the ground, haha training with a guy that trains under eddie its a good system but i find i fuken difficult
@guysovereign LOL i would try to gain some facts before saying joe rogan is an idiot... he is actually a very intelligent individual, he's just very brash and in ur face when he talks about things that he truly believes in plain and simple
@guysovereign lol do i have to be to have an opinion on the subject??? watch some videos of joe he talks about a lot of deep stuff that i'm unsure you would be open enough to understand
@TweaksterXXX superior "IN" mma when it comes to street fighting the techniques learned from bjj/Gi jiu jitsu become much more applicable and effective
@liamag92 but the first UFC's proved BJJ's superiority and dominance :/ but i would love to see Bravo or a Gracie master against an Israeli Krav Maga master ahahaha xD
@liamag92 Wing Chun Kung Fu via Dr. Scott Mullen would beg to differ...I use to think along these Martial Arts Etiquette's..WING CHUN KUNG FU DR. SCOTT MULLEN has the BEST MARTIAL ARTS AVAILABLE... CALL AND CHAT WITH HIM.. No disrespect intended. Good day.
@shocxxxx Hello and good day. Regarding getting taken down, you would be correct for many stand up martial arts or kung fu system. However, Wing Chun expresses itself in any position: standing, grappling, and possibly any other way you or I could think of. Wing Chun is very scientific in its approach, specifically Dr. SCOTT MULLEN WING CHUN KUNG FU. CALL AND CHAT WITH HIM and even touch hands with him. Again no disrespect intended.
@shocxxxx actually Arhat Boxing is thought to be one of the earliest forms of Kung Fu. There are statues of Arhat Boxing techniques and forms. Some include ground techniques.
@Benns1991 yeah but im talking about the actual martial art of kung fu, there are some derivatives of kung fu that have a ground game but im not talking about them
Respond to this video... .WING CHUN KUNG FU DR. SCOTT MULLEN has the BEST MARTIAL ARTS AVAILABLE... CALL AND CHAT WITH HIM.. No disrespect intended. Good day.
@davejones8 bruces lee's ENTIRE philosophy was that it was about grabbing the necessities of each martial art to create a new art. He didnt believe in style but he believed in the individual fighter. You cant say oh that kyokoshin karate guy cant beat that boxer.. cause the styles dont fight... the people who use the styles do. if you honestly think that every martial artist feels their art is superior then do you honestly believe you can speak for 6 billion ppl?
People need to leg go of their egos. Seriously. I remember seeing/reading/hearing that a couple of other older school dudes used to use the rubber guard (or something like it) but Eddie did come up with a lot of shit that flows out of the rubber guard. He's also pushed it into the main stream. It doesn't matter if you think it sucks or not, the fact is it works. If something's good, use it. Who cares who invented it or whatever.
We'll see more rubber guard in MMA in ten years. We see a lot of people in UFC use rubber guard, almost no one uses it right. Eddie has a comprehensive list of "what-to-do-ifs" in Mastering the Rubber Guard that work, but few people have fully learned and committed to these solutions.
@frege666 Eddie defeating Royler was for sure a great and monumental task... props to Eddie for sure! But the problem is that he has never fought in a match since... And considering that he has never won the ADCC, where as Royler has won ADCC 3x... i would say that Royler Gracie has a much better overall record that is verifiable and certainly more consistent... I mean talk about laying it all on the line... you'd think you'd stop after winning the mundials or adcc just 1x or 2x... but 3x...
@frege666 Royler has won so many competitions and so many titles... multiple world champion, multiple adcc champion, pan am champ, i mean his wall is filled with trophies man... and I hear that he has several students who are also multiple world champions mundials and ADCC, without Gi...
@frege666 ... so I guess the answer to that question is... "No, Eddie nor his students have ever used the rubber guard to win the ADCC, Mundials, Pan-Ams, Brasileiros, or the Abu Dhabi Pro..."
Jiu jitsu is still evolving. Eddie, Einstein and Alder at 10th Planet are pioneers. Marcelo Garcia, Bill Cooper and Jeff Glover are also changing the game. Haters keep hating.
Its a disservice to any school to not cover this technique ,regardless if you want to recognize it as another system of its own , like learning a new sweep or submission
I didn't even know 10th Planet was hated that much. To be honest, I don't see how you could hate the rubber guard in general. Maybe if you are a big unflexible guy you can hate it personally... but in general you must see it's awesome.
No hating here.... I'm an englishman using rubber guard over here in New Zealand. First saw it in a couple of fights and found out about some decent submission from it from submissions 101 and I love it. Credit to him amazing.
first off the gracies did not revolutionize jiu jitsu, they were taught everything that is known now and they say helio developed a system where a much smaller guy can take a bigger guy HELIO GRACIE DID NOT MODIFY ANYTHING! i dare anyone to show me a technique helio so called invented and isnt already in kodokan judo
My view on all this is if anyone devises a system where it is applicable to every day life or modern day MMA, i give them my props. That is what makes the sport evolve. The Gracies took something from the Japanese and made it better and they give the Japanese credit for having started it. Now Eddie is taking the next step in the evolution of Jiu Jitsu. By you giving him credit, it doesn't in anyway diminish the work or impact of the Gracies and that is what many are afraid of.
Anyone who honestly believes that 10th Planet JJ and the Rubber Guard don't work in MMA needs to watch some of George Sotiropoulos's fights. He used it to effectively lockdown Joe Stevenson, and that guy is a skilled wrestler. Stop all the hatin on Eddie.
@999berlo Not only did he sweep Stevenson with the RG, he nullified Kurt Pellegrino with it, and he used the exact Swim Move-Spiderweb-Armbar that Eddie teaches to win his fight against Jason Dent.
But hey, before the Makdessi fight at 124, noone thought Tae Kwon Doe could be that effective in MMA. All it'll take is 1 gogoplata in the UFC and all the haters will be jumping on the 10th planet bandwagon.
@waldomarek Eddie said that the gi is useless for MMA training,and any idiot can see that it's a true statement,the gracies strongly disagree with this point,which makes me seriously question their understanding of the sport
I agree that regular BJJ has way too many loopholes in the defense system, especially the full guard - doesn't win points in MMA rules and does very little defense against gound-n-pound.
10th Planet Jiu Jitsu deserves a better name. Seriously, if it's from America at least use vocabs from the English dictionary.
Dana White supports SOPA/PIPA type legislation. BOYCOTT UFC
MrJamesbragan 1 hour ago
Joe Rogan = JOKE, Eddie Bravo is a joke, Jason Chambers is laughable, all the UFC fighters that claim Eddie Bravo as their instructor=BIG JOKE. Eddie and Joe's involvement with MMA is a knee slapper.
Anybody that rolls at 10th Planet is a dork and an idiot.
In other words, all you 10th planet spammers are just pumping your own poles when you talk about Eddie as legit. Sorry for you that he fooled you into believing him. He's a joke among serious cross trained fighters.
MrJamesbragan 1 hour ago
it's actually plastic
gor337 2 weeks ago
JASON CHAMBERS! :O
levaann 2 weeks ago
Eddie Bravo invented the internet too.
MrRunyon 3 weeks ago
jiu jitsu is so dumb. tkd is the way to go! stop humping each other.
tkdrealselfdefense 4 weeks ago
@tkdrealselfdefense
I can conclude with absolute certainty you don't know shit about either Taekwondo or Jiu Jitsu.
allfatz 3 weeks ago
@tkdrealselfdefense
If that was true, how come you see very few MMA fighters using TKD and almost every MMA fighter familiar with BJJ? The martial arts like TKD, Karate, Savate, etc that didn't have a ground component got humiliated in the first UFCs. I'd go so far as to say that a good high school wrestler could probably take any TKD master in a one on one fight most of the time.
underdg22 1 week ago
@tkdrealselfdefense You're a disgrace to Tae Kwon Do.
seaFoodSifu 1 week ago
@asasipogi
Oh no, you didn't just post that I has no core nor meaning did you? Of all the things you could have said that wouldn't pierce my heart like a poison arrow,you just happen to hit the bulls-eye of defamery with your random choice of insults.
A pox on you for that. Just leave me alone and stop hurting my sensitivities you ruffian.
MrJamesbragan 1 month ago
@MrJamesbragan
I cant believe you guys, you hate and post craps that has no core nor meaning, u say bullshit and? u say shit on evry bravo video and yet you watch every bravo video you see? just get out, leave the 10th PJJ dont watch the vids if you want to keep hatin then keep it to yourself, the guy dont take any credits for himself, on his other interviews he give credits to his mates saying that he's not alone doing this thing. dont watch if you have so much prob and just STOP HATIN
asasipogi 1 month ago
So I have a question, might be a stupid one but how many moves are their in the rubber guard? :s
iSubmission 1 month ago
Bullshit!!!
When the 10th planet guys hit the restroom that's when the system shows itself.
MrJamesbragan 1 month ago
becah he desrespect Brazilian juijitsu.you no desrespect gi.gi be good.Bravo I no like.
johnediamond 1 month ago
@johnediamond Stop Renato
Tappedurassout 1 month ago
little guy be overwelmed by bigger guys so he was creative and developed jiu jitsu more hmmm sounds like helio
rickyd454 2 months ago
i didnt know there was so much hate on a martial art.
juneda33 2 months ago
Sotiropolous got his behind kicked, Prokopos got whupped, Mitrione walloped. Help me out here, anybody from 10thplanet ever maintained a winning record? Their competition record is a little suspicious. In both BJJ and MMA.
Now if Bravo would stop opening McDojos and stop making wild claims of "inventing" shit, and stick to teaching Hollywood gayboys how to cluster fuck in the shower rooms, people would stop hatin on 10thP.
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago 4
@MrJamesbragan its not the system its the fighters are u kidding me?
juneda33 2 months ago
@MrJamesbragan sotiropolous kills everyone on the ground, he got his behind kicked in the stand up, prokopos was killing his oponent on the ground and he got caught with a punch, when 10th planet guys hit the ground thats when the system shows itself, not in stand up
LazaCDS 1 month ago
@MrJamesbragan matt mitrione isnt even a high lvl grappler you fool.
lilsm555 3 weeks ago
@MrJamesbragan I think 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu is still in major development. No fighter with a certain BJJ affiliation will be undefeated. I think 10th Planet needs many more black belts to instruct because they seem pretty short-handed right now. It's too soon to see just how legit 10th Planet can be. I'll give them a few more years. It seems VERY interesting to me, personally.
seaFoodSifu 1 week ago 2
@seaFoodSifu
How are they gonna get black belts if they don't have gis or wear belts? Plus, you'd think if the claims this video made were true, you'd see 10th Planet guys winning no gi grappling tournaments like Abu Dhabi, but you don't. The guys who do well in the no gi tournaments are usually the same guys who do well in gi tournaments.
underdg22 1 week ago
@underdg22 Just because they don't wear their belts doesn't mean they can't earn it. I'm from a traditional jiu-jitsu school and we have no gi classes and nobody wears their belts. Seriously man? It's not a big deal, but I'm surprised you even said that, makes me wonder how qualified you are. And again, there's only about 5 black belts, not including Eddie Bravo. Majority aren't athletic, so it's hard to say, Give it time. There are too many competitors to expect that from one new school.
seaFoodSifu 1 week ago
@seaFoodSifu
You misunderstood my point about belts. If you NEVER wear bets, like at 10th Planet, what's the point of awarding belts? The only point of wearing a belt is to distinguish among the skill levels of the people wearing a gi. Without the gi, there is no point in awarding belts to distinguish people. Their record in competition (or sparring) is what sets them apart unless bravo starts awarding patches or something. It doesn't make sense to award belts to people that don't wear them.
underdg22 1 week ago
@MrJamesbragan ill help you out here, sotiropolous got beat on his feet any other fight you watch with him that goes to the ground he dominates with this system and as for mitrione he has no base in bjj and hasnt been training very long at all.
roycesboy 12 hours ago
who gives a fuck about trainers anywayz i just wanna see good fights n theres no decent fighters from 10th planet
CoolCumber187 2 months ago
@CoolCumber187 George Sotiropolous is pretty good!
davis311c 2 months ago
@davis311c yeah if you wanna see two guys rolling around all fight...
CoolCumber187 2 months ago
If you want people to stop hatin, then stop lying. This video demonstrates the pathetic nature of 10th planet.
Eddie and Joe want to be the McDonalds of BJJ.
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago
Propokos is the best bravo has, and denny got fucking schooled by little Chris H. lol.
10th planet is the place where nerds and kiss asses go. Just look at the guys that go to that system. Bravo is the Justin Beiber of BJJ.
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago
Jason Chambers = queer, Joe Rogan = queer, Ebby Bravo = queer, George Sotirwhatablapos = queer, Denny Propokos =queer. Everybody on those mats are queers. 10thplanet is strictly for the anally penetrated.
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago
@MrJamesbragan You have got to be a troll
davis311c 2 months ago
easy to scape
sclifo 2 months ago
@sclifo how do you escape?
jamiegee123 2 months ago
Nino Schembri used the rubber guard way before Eddie Bravo. Eddie made it popular, but by no means did he invent it.
PeidoLord 2 months ago
I do Jap Ju-Jutsu with a Gi.I've started researching Eddie Bravo and adapting the style I learn with Eddies style in my own time and all I can say is it works.I'm catching guys out a lot more because they don't expect whats coming.Being able to defend against a guy wearing a t-shirt or no shirt is also a big deal to me as I've never been in a street fight with someone wearing a Gi.The haters should try it.Once they discover it works for them,they'll love it.If not ,then they'll be tapped out.
MagicDaveDrummer1980 2 months ago
whoa good to see jason chambers again. wonder what hes up to in 2011 now. and i can't remember the other dude from human weapon, but he was cool too.
Kinuhbud 3 months ago
@Kinuhbud he's sucking cock in 2011 just like he did in '10, 09, and all the way back to grade school. he's a cocksucker
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago
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@Kinuhbud he's sucking cock in 2011 just like he did in '10, 09, and all the way back to grade school. he's a cocksucker
MrJamesbragan 2 months ago
No gi system is cool. But i don't fight often nor do i want to. But, for hawaiians, brasilians, aussies, and cali, Miami and coney island beach goers this is great.
Byakuya79 3 months ago
i didnt see much rubber guard at the adcc......
jimbo007777 3 months ago
@jimbo007777 well if you look closely before he caught royler in the triangle he set up the rubber gaurd and attempted a gogoplata
OPERATIONSOFMW2 3 months ago
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The more rules fighters have to abide by the less the fighters can perform at her or his deadly arts. Example WING CHUN KUNG FU or VIKING HEAD SMASHING...Many organized sports fighting claims to be 'As REAL as IT GETS'..but not for those VIKING HEAD SMASHING type folks out there and not for WING CHUN KUNG FU folk specifically DR. SCOTT MULLEN Wing Chun Kung Fu. Call and Chat with him or simply TOUCH HANDS to understand. Knowledge is Potential power.
Vvrroommm 3 months ago
awesome.
Amin0ac1dz 3 months ago
Fine Jason Chambers...I here by declare Eddie Bravo the inventor of the Rubber Guard....are you happy now? can you stop whining?
pinkfloyd105 3 months ago
I think Eddie is one the greatest American Jiu Jitsuka of his day.
BandakaKush 4 months ago
damn eddie has a fat gut for somone of his reputation
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i really like the 10th planet system and the moves Eddie bravo is gonna have a seminar and i will attend but the flexibility is kinda getting to you in a way were your just gonna say that's enough
OPERATIONSOFMW2 4 months ago
@thatkidwiththedice
Good case point with Aoki, however you could make that argument with anything "Tai Chi would work great in MMA if people would just put in the time" people like Dan Hardy, Chuck Liddell have put forth the time and get beat by old-school gi jitz guys. Sean Bollinger is supposed to be Yoda at RG and was unable to use it effectively against Ryan Couture. Furthermore, Dream is not the high echelons of MMA, my theory is that he would be unsuccessful in against Strikeforce/UFC cal
lsloewen2 4 months ago
You know anything Joe Rogan says has some truth to it. He beats both sides, not just one.
MrKhanYay 4 months ago
Just world champions talking, kkkkkkkkk
first learn jiu jitsu americans, after that you can talk something.
grayfox555 5 months ago
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DrVoltage1 4 months ago
Remember how you trained as a white belt, clenching up as hard as you can against your opponents? To get better and progress you had to learn to open up and flow, move your hips and let your opponent do all the work? 10P is like an entire jitz game based on that white-belt philosophy; "constant pressure from unorthodox positions"
lsloewen2 5 months ago
@mok0s1 some people have limited success with the rubber guard at the low levels of combat sports and especially in the gym, it is not used by top competition because it is harmful to the knees, compromises the strength of the legs, opens your guard, totally inhibits hip movement and has a overall low percentage of success.
lsloewen2 5 months ago
@lsloewen2 Yeah, all of that is true... if you SUCK at rubber guard. The real reason why it's not commonly used in top level competitions is because they haven't learned how it actually works and put the numbers in developing it. It's to be expected. How are you going to make rubber guard work in a fight if you're not killing people with it in the gym. Look at Shinya Aoki. He's made the rubber guard work especially well for him because he spent an ungodly amount of time training it.
ThatKidWiththeDice 4 months ago
@truthseeker9261
BJJ revolutionized the entire world of martial arts in one night! After UFC 1 things were changed instantly, the tough part was getting it to a venue for the world to see. 10P has had the same chance if not more of one. Look at the short spans of time were MMA itself was introduced to new things; Ground and Pound, Sprawl and Brawl, Machida's karate, if things are effective; the majority of fighters adopt it quick. Just because something is MARKETED as the next big new thing doe
lsloewen2 5 months ago
It's funny how many 10th planet "disciples" get off at being SO OPEN MINDED. People forget that even Bruce Lee thought it was important to DISCARD what doesn't work. It's been what, 8 years since 10P was created? Shouldn't it have revolutionized things by now? It hasn't because it is fundamentally BAD JIU JITSU
lsloewen2 5 months ago
@lsloewen2 You say that like there should be definite timetable between inception
and revolution. how many decades has BJJ been in this hemisphere before BJJ itself
became a ''Revolution'' in the 'Johnny Come Lately' USA?
truthseeker9261 5 months ago
@lsloewen2 bad jiu jitsu... I train in gracie humaitá and one day I decided to prove what was going on with this rubber guard and man, I can assure you that I triangled and omoplated every students in the class
mok0s1 5 months ago
Jesus, Sotiropolous looks SO much better with a little hair on his head. That buzzcut he has now doesn't suit him at all....
kommisar 6 months ago
Jason Chambers is an idiot. He has no significant accomplishments in MMA, He is not "really good friends" with "Renzo and a bunch of the Gracies" they probobly don't even know his name, the guy is a complete poser. How can someone with so little experience in high-level jiu-jitsu and MMA make a judgement on the future of both?
918Anon 6 months ago
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918Anon 6 months ago
either way if u get caight is THAT SHIT HURTS
ufcman119 6 months ago
Im not trying to be a dick but didnt Nino Schembri create the rubber guard?
NikeSbSbSbSb 6 months ago 4
@NikeSbSbSbSb Of course. 10th Planet JJ its just marketing. Eddie "the marijuana gracie" Bravo, lol.
lemosbjj 5 months ago
@NikeSbSbSbSb did you even watch the video? He made the 10th planet SYSTEM... not the position. He made the rubber guard more effective and do-able with no Gi... watch the last thing Rogan says at the very end of the video plz.
tokkenn 1 month ago
HGH (Haters Gonna Hate)
RobertWanko 6 months ago
"STOP HATIN!"
bjjk1ll3r 6 months ago 24
if it works, who cares?
mok0s1 7 months ago
Let's see here. What criteria would you use to judge how one school is better than the other?
Most probably its:
1.achievements in competitions.
2. How long it's been around.
How does 10th planet fare against other school of the same size and age?
crankatorium 7 months ago
@crankatorium Not good.
918Anon 6 months ago
joe rogan is a boss
bshan13 7 months ago
@Barrett I admit I am very biased toward the Gracies and was very surprised to hear the news that Royler may be backing out. Seeing Bravo had not competed for so long I figured he would be the one to not compete. I am shocked and disappointed that this rematch may not happen. After the first match the Rolyer fans, myself included, kept saying that Bravo caught him and if they fought again Royler would dominate. I saw this as a way to settle that argument. Hopefully Royler will agree to fig
elmustacho 7 months ago
@elmustacho I love the Gracie's, i mean truly, they are gods in my eyes ahaha xD but Bravo is an amazing man and I just see him as like a creation of the gods that are the Gracies, and like us humans, as their creation he took what he was given and created his own methods(like us creating tools of war and nukes and everything) ahaha xP Gracies forever! Bravo forever! 10th Pkanet forever! Jiu Jitsu for all of eternity!!!! hahaha xD
BioBrokun 7 months ago
Eddie, i would kill, KILL, to be in one of your 10 planet jj gyms.
DCOME94 8 months ago
I think the rematch between bravo and royler at this years Abu dhabi will be very interesting if Eddie doesn't "get hurt"
elmustacho 8 months ago
@elmustacho Unfortunately their rematch isn't happening, at least not at the moment. Apparently a week after Gracie accepted the match, he told the promoters that he wants $50,000 just to appear, in addition to the $25,000 he would get if he won the match. The promoters said no to his request.
So now Bravo is trying to raise the money himself through donations. Leo Vieira says that if the rematch doesn’t happen, he’s would step in for Gracie and “smash” Bravo again.
barrettokarate 7 months ago
Nino Schembri the real "inventor" of the high guard.
ms1454 8 months ago
@MangaMoogleMan
said "I think the ideal of Eddie's system scares a lot of Gracie affiliates because they don't want the art they helped popularized to forget and leave them behind. This is insane of course. No one ever deny what the Gracies have done for Jiu-Jitsu and MMA."
True. Just like jiujitsu (may have been influenced by Chinese chin na) influence the develope of judo. And then judo (leaving Kosen judo aside) influence the devlopement of BJJ. And BJJ has influence American newaza.
1NX9 8 months ago
Next evolution my ass, and no one hates the 10th planet system. We hate morons like Jason Chambers saying its revolutionary and putting down BJJ, or Implying that the legends that practice now are simply practicing Old, stagnant, antiquated techniques. According to the 10th planet guys anyways.
HavahdYahdHahrry 8 months ago
I like to look at the martial arts as tools. A jab is a tool, rounhouse is a tool a single leg take down is a tool. Like any tool they all have their time and place. If a tool gets the job done and it does it well then why would you not use it?
mrgees100peas 8 months ago
Eddie wearing gi pants?!?!?! BURN THAT DIRTY GI WEARER!!!!!
Tamales21 8 months ago
I do beleive that Eddie Bravo's system is better than traditional Jiu Jitsu.
Rubber Guard is the shit.
JordyBT 8 months ago
Brazilain Jiujitsu?
Its now American Jiujitsu!
American practitioners have gone way beyond the Gracies.
Americans dont give themselves enough credit. They have created hundreds of techniques by themselves.
Americans please give yourself more credit!
1NX9 8 months ago
@1NX9 Yeah, Because Americans always outshine Brazilians at the Mundials don't they?
Dream on!
delgriffithification 8 months ago
@delgriffithification
Nope. Its just because CERTAIN American practitioners are innotative enough to develope their own newaza techniques outside the old Gracie curriculum.
1NX9 8 months ago
@1NX9 And then they shit on the Mundial winners, the BJ Pens who are GI players and are legends in MMA, and say "YOUR STYLE IS AN ANACHRONISM, ITS OLD, THIS IS NEW AND BETTER".
They shit on the Braulio Estimas, the Marcello Garcias, the Cobrinas. They need to give it up right? Flock to eddie and learn his techniques?
HavahdYahdHahrry 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry
Whatever is new and evolved is good.
1NX9 8 months ago
@1NX9 Can any black belt beat the names I mentioned above? What Happened to Denny Prokopos btw? Haven't heard of him in a while man.
How is training with a gi new? How is 10th BJJ evolved? You are an immensely foolish person, most likely a white belt as well.
HavahdYahdHahrry 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry
You dont know a thing about me. stupid!
I NEVER said training in a gi is new. Where do I say that? Dont put words in my mouth. ass hole.
What they are doing is training WITHOUT gi.
How is 10th BJJ evolve you ask? eg many rubber guard tech. eg greater emphasis on no gi tech etc.
First of all whether someone is a good technical fighter is one thing. Its another thing if they have actually created new techniques in ground fighting.
1NX9 8 months ago
@1NX9 It was a typo, I meant to say No gi, how is training No Gi New?
Anyways you say No gi is evolutionary, and gi is in the past? We can measure it by the progress 10th planet BJJ has been making. Not much....
HavahdYahdHahrry 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry
The key word is is "emphasis".
Both gi and no gi has its place.
1NX9 8 months ago
@HavahdYahdHahrry
Further more I NEVER said I support the shiting down on others like Braulio, Marcello etc.
1NX9 8 months ago
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masterchief9064 9 months ago
18 guys rely too much on the Gi
luisve4344 9 months ago 2
oh man you should feel the haters in New Zealand heaps of stand up guys that think its gay men hugging on the ground, haha training with a guy that trains under eddie its a good system but i find i fuken difficult
reecemtM 9 months ago
Jason Chambers is very eloquent.
Joe Rogan is an idiot.
guysovereign 9 months ago
@guysovereign LOL i would try to gain some facts before saying joe rogan is an idiot... he is actually a very intelligent individual, he's just very brash and in ur face when he talks about things that he truly believes in plain and simple
Moro371 9 months ago
@Moro371
Are you his boyfriend?
guysovereign 9 months ago
@guysovereign lol do i have to be to have an opinion on the subject??? watch some videos of joe he talks about a lot of deep stuff that i'm unsure you would be open enough to understand
Moro371 8 months ago
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@Moro371
You are even dumber than Joe Rogan.
guysovereign 8 months ago
10th Planet JJ is superior
TweaksterXXX 10 months ago 14
@TweaksterXXX yea man its so alien so Simple and effective all your need is a little strength and flexibility
Wingchunskunk 9 months ago
@TweaksterXXX You're right. They're winning all JJ tournaments. No gi, gi, IBJJF, Worlds, Pans, ADCC, come on, please.
legendof 9 months ago
@TweaksterXXX superior "IN" mma when it comes to street fighting the techniques learned from bjj/Gi jiu jitsu become much more applicable and effective
Moro371 9 months ago
@TweaksterXXX to what? than two cows fighting? i fully agree.
waldomarek 8 months ago
@TweaksterXXX to say one martial art is superior is not the attitude of a martial artist.
liamag92 8 months ago 59
@liamag92 but the first UFC's proved BJJ's superiority and dominance :/ but i would love to see Bravo or a Gracie master against an Israeli Krav Maga master ahahaha xD
BioBrokun 7 months ago
@liamag92 True, but Eddie Bravo IS superior!
It boils down to the artist rather than his art.
DrVoltage1 4 months ago
@liamag92 Wing Chun Kung Fu via Dr. Scott Mullen would beg to differ...I use to think along these Martial Arts Etiquette's..WING CHUN KUNG FU DR. SCOTT MULLEN has the BEST MARTIAL ARTS AVAILABLE... CALL AND CHAT WITH HIM.. No disrespect intended. Good day.
Vvrroommm 3 months ago
@Vvrroommm there is no way any form of kung fu is the most superior martial art... if you slipped or fell or got taken down your system is useless..
shocxxxx 3 months ago
@shocxxxx Hello and good day. Regarding getting taken down, you would be correct for many stand up martial arts or kung fu system. However, Wing Chun expresses itself in any position: standing, grappling, and possibly any other way you or I could think of. Wing Chun is very scientific in its approach, specifically Dr. SCOTT MULLEN WING CHUN KUNG FU. CALL AND CHAT WITH HIM and even touch hands with him. Again no disrespect intended.
Vvrroommm 3 months ago
@Vvrroommm but if it was on the ground or grappling that would then not be considered kung fu...
shocxxxx 3 months ago
@Vvrroommm well i suppose there is SOME kinds of grappling but no ground game is associated with kung fu
shocxxxx 3 months ago
@shocxxxx actually Arhat Boxing is thought to be one of the earliest forms of Kung Fu. There are statues of Arhat Boxing techniques and forms. Some include ground techniques.
Benns1991 3 months ago
@Benns1991 yeah but im talking about the actual martial art of kung fu, there are some derivatives of kung fu that have a ground game but im not talking about them
shocxxxx 3 months ago
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Vvrroommm 3 months ago
@liamag92 you dont kno shit really,,,every martial artist feels there art is superior that is exactly what martial arts is about
davejones8 3 months ago
@davejones8 bruces lee's ENTIRE philosophy was that it was about grabbing the necessities of each martial art to create a new art. He didnt believe in style but he believed in the individual fighter. You cant say oh that kyokoshin karate guy cant beat that boxer.. cause the styles dont fight... the people who use the styles do. if you honestly think that every martial artist feels their art is superior then do you honestly believe you can speak for 6 billion ppl?
reaperofgenocide 2 months ago
@liamag92 guess u never saw UFC 1
DMTwannaB 2 months ago
@liamag92 Martial artists have been saying that for hundreds of years.
poolboyinla 2 months ago
@TweaksterXXX Let's see here. What criteria would you use to judge how one school is better than the other?
Most probably its:
1.achievements in competitions.
2. How long it's been around.
How does 10th planet fare against other school of the same size and age?
crankatorium 7 months ago
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leshark 3 months ago
Respond to this video... 10th planet jj is bjj, theres no such thing as traditional bjj... it constantly evolves.
leshark 3 months ago
joe rogan's HUGE
iamthemoneyj 10 months ago
dude how do u escape from the Twister?
kintakunto 10 months ago
@kintakunto
You tap
AnimusAeternus 10 months ago
@kintakunto you activate fire alarm that's the only way
iNFernoSoulja 10 months ago
lmfao "STOP HATIN" says mr. rogan
allybe 10 months ago
People need to leg go of their egos. Seriously. I remember seeing/reading/hearing that a couple of other older school dudes used to use the rubber guard (or something like it) but Eddie did come up with a lot of shit that flows out of the rubber guard. He's also pushed it into the main stream. It doesn't matter if you think it sucks or not, the fact is it works. If something's good, use it. Who cares who invented it or whatever.
willman808 10 months ago
We'll see more rubber guard in MMA in ten years. We see a lot of people in UFC use rubber guard, almost no one uses it right. Eddie has a comprehensive list of "what-to-do-ifs" in Mastering the Rubber Guard that work, but few people have fully learned and committed to these solutions.
TheIncredibleMicah 10 months ago
@TheIncredibleMicah
I'd say next couple of years.
ajp500 9 months ago
MMA shouldn't be called that anymore since it's not mixed martial arts it's just jujitsu.
darketernal3 10 months ago
18 guys are not flexible... Lol.
SuperGin03 10 months ago 3
finaly a freakin wristlock yaaaaay
tbnice1966 10 months ago
Rogan Rocks
james77se7en 11 months ago
Bruce lee once said that styles have nothing to do with race use wat ever is good for u dont see y ppl hateing on h for it
crazyfaint 11 months ago 2
@MangaMoogleMan I meant pull out a submission not just use the guard for control like you see all the time on UFC, strikeforce!
BJJBLACKBELT72 11 months ago
Nobody give him credit for one simple reason it does not work It might work for him but I am tired of seen fighters trying it and never pull it out!
BJJBLACKBELT72 11 months ago
has Eddie or any of his students used the rubber guard to win the ADCC, Mundials, Pan-Ams, Brasilieros, or the Abu Dhabi Pro?
aikidoisthebombyeah 11 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah
2003 ADCC...Eddie defeats Royler Gracie. Good enough?
frege666 11 months ago
@frege666 Eddie defeating Royler was for sure a great and monumental task... props to Eddie for sure! But the problem is that he has never fought in a match since... And considering that he has never won the ADCC, where as Royler has won ADCC 3x... i would say that Royler Gracie has a much better overall record that is verifiable and certainly more consistent... I mean talk about laying it all on the line... you'd think you'd stop after winning the mundials or adcc just 1x or 2x... but 3x...
aikidoisthebombyeah 11 months ago
@frege666 Royler has won so many competitions and so many titles... multiple world champion, multiple adcc champion, pan am champ, i mean his wall is filled with trophies man... and I hear that he has several students who are also multiple world champions mundials and ADCC, without Gi...
aikidoisthebombyeah 11 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah
Sakuraba
/thread
timduncan69 11 months ago
@frege666 ... so I guess the answer to that question is... "No, Eddie nor his students have ever used the rubber guard to win the ADCC, Mundials, Pan-Ams, Brasileiros, or the Abu Dhabi Pro..."
aikidoisthebombyeah 11 months ago
would love to train with eddie.
jayjones8686 11 months ago
Jiu jitsu is still evolving. Eddie, Einstein and Alder at 10th Planet are pioneers. Marcelo Garcia, Bill Cooper and Jeff Glover are also changing the game. Haters keep hating.
lionheartinfidel 11 months ago
lol jason chambers
"bullshit"
QofLife69 11 months ago
GJJ is still better for purely self defence than BJJ or 10th planet.
Whyisthat101 11 months ago
Holy crap, Joe Rogan is jacked.
tbreton87 11 months ago
@tbreton87 hes ona diet of marijuana, dmt, and creatine all day baby!
OffspringFTW65 11 months ago
That's fact. It's his sytem, stop hatin'!
GoldenGloverMMA 1 year ago 3
Its a disservice to any school to not cover this technique ,regardless if you want to recognize it as another system of its own , like learning a new sweep or submission
NamChampskee 1 year ago
george sotiropoulos executed the rubber guard at ufc 116
squirtleenblastoise 1 year ago
BJJ and their gi's are good for sport. 10th planet however is for self defense and cage fighting.
HOWever! 10thplanet was not the first system to do no gi submissions. That was Catch Wrestling.
bananabread119 1 year ago
I didn't even know 10th Planet was hated that much. To be honest, I don't see how you could hate the rubber guard in general. Maybe if you are a big unflexible guy you can hate it personally... but in general you must see it's awesome.
Zevvion 1 year ago
No hating here.... I'm an englishman using rubber guard over here in New Zealand. First saw it in a couple of fights and found out about some decent submission from it from submissions 101 and I love it. Credit to him amazing.
mesaverde 1 year ago
Give credit where credit is due. Eddie Bravo played a huge roll in changing Jiu jitsu for the purpose of 21 century Mixed martial arts.
moirm2 1 year ago
first off the gracies did not revolutionize jiu jitsu, they were taught everything that is known now and they say helio developed a system where a much smaller guy can take a bigger guy HELIO GRACIE DID NOT MODIFY ANYTHING! i dare anyone to show me a technique helio so called invented and isnt already in kodokan judo
chilidog1001 1 year ago
My view on all this is if anyone devises a system where it is applicable to every day life or modern day MMA, i give them my props. That is what makes the sport evolve. The Gracies took something from the Japanese and made it better and they give the Japanese credit for having started it. Now Eddie is taking the next step in the evolution of Jiu Jitsu. By you giving him credit, it doesn't in anyway diminish the work or impact of the Gracies and that is what many are afraid of.
kanguesso 1 year ago
@kanguesso Do you give credit to big gay communist dicks with cock tattoos on their chest?
Nigganechi 1 year ago
@Nigganechi Huh?
kanguesso 1 year ago
if joe rogan says it you better fucking agree
timmafee0 1 year ago
ill take joe rogan anytime tkd muay thai or bjj what a bitch
nitro27us 1 year ago
stop hatin` playa
malenkas3 1 year ago
Anyone who honestly believes that 10th Planet JJ and the Rubber Guard don't work in MMA needs to watch some of George Sotiropoulos's fights. He used it to effectively lockdown Joe Stevenson, and that guy is a skilled wrestler. Stop all the hatin on Eddie.
999berlo 1 year ago
@999berlo Or bj penn, Bj uses the rubber guard almost all the time hes on his back.
lilsm555 1 year ago
@999berlo Not only did he sweep Stevenson with the RG, he nullified Kurt Pellegrino with it, and he used the exact Swim Move-Spiderweb-Armbar that Eddie teaches to win his fight against Jason Dent.
But hey, before the Makdessi fight at 124, noone thought Tae Kwon Doe could be that effective in MMA. All it'll take is 1 gogoplata in the UFC and all the haters will be jumping on the 10th planet bandwagon.
pearcemark2 1 year ago
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The good thing about jujitsu... is that it's one of the best martial arts to be creative.
kokyjabn 1 year ago
The good thing about jujitsu... is that it one of the best martial arts to be creative.
kokyjabn 1 year ago
16 gracies must have watched this
jigsawkid95 1 year ago 19
@jigsawkid95 why would the gracies dislike the rubber guard? just because eddi beat royler in the past? o_O
waldomarek 8 months ago
@waldomarek a lot of them dont like eddie for taking the gi off!
jigsawkid95 8 months ago
@waldomarek Eddie said that the gi is useless for MMA training,and any idiot can see that it's a true statement,the gracies strongly disagree with this point,which makes me seriously question their understanding of the sport
ViralMessiah 8 months ago
I agree that regular BJJ has way too many loopholes in the defense system, especially the full guard - doesn't win points in MMA rules and does very little defense against gound-n-pound.
10th Planet Jiu Jitsu deserves a better name. Seriously, if it's from America at least use vocabs from the English dictionary.
SatanistTV 1 year ago