pre- practical test example (learner) LEARN2RIDE

[moscowvespajoe]

Guys, at 2.17 in this video Stephen has just entered a junction and you say: " and use your indicator mate". Am I right in thinking he should have used his left indicator, is this considered a left turn? At first I thought it was a roundabout. Also, my instructor tells me Mod 2 is easy to pass than Mod 1, and plain sailing by comparison. I just can't see that though, it seems to me there's much more can go wrong on Mod 2 and you really have to be on your game not to collect minors and faults.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@moscowvespajoe yes, left indicator. It is a roundabout & some argue about best practice when travelling straight ahead on an RB whether a rider should indicate or not. In this case it was simply to help eradicate any confusion & signal the rider's intention to other road users that he would remain in the left hand lane (as correct lane discipline is required on test remember & the road widens into three lanes at this point).

Either test should be fine provided you train for it.

[moscowvespajoe]

I found this one of the most useful videos on the net. Instructor is firm but fair, gives praise not just criticism . Please do more like this with students who make the mistakes we do, so we can see how it should be done. One problem I have though is that the Official DAS examiners, while they should of course be professionals, often seem to be very patronising and smarmy, and they don't put you in the right mood for the test. No wonder so many fail first time.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@moscowvespajoe thank you. There is a fine line between under - instruction & over - instruction as every trainee has their own strengths & weaknesses: what works for one

may not necessarily for another. More cautious pupils require perhaps more encouragement whereas over - confident pupils may need to better understand the risks of over confidence linked to crashing. Pupil in this case was riding for a few years & a confident rider so just needed to eradicate a few bad habits.

[VCRAGE]

1:34 he didn't really change lanes though, he approached a widening mouth of a junction, before that the road didn't have dividing lines to make it into a separate lanes. That cannot be a fault otherwise it would be wholly unfair to the rider/driver in any such situation..

Although he should have signalled at the lights since he was in the right turning lane :)

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@VCRAGE On test day examiners usually specify that you must stay in the left-hand lane at all times unless otherwise directed. In this case, had the pupil not received an instruction/ request, he'd have proceeded in the left hand lane (that goes both straight ahead & to the left & is clearly marked). The important point to note however is not whether a fault is deserved or not, but to realise that as a motorcyclist we are vulnerable & regardless of who is in the right or wrong- we pay the price

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@jaspsoftware you're very welcome

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@markw15eman or why not Google 'Learn2Ride Motorcycle Training' and click on 'Reviews' on the official Learn2Ride website for a more in-depth appraisal of training methods and whether or not past pupils deem Learn2Ride MC Training as a good instructor (nevermind their consistently high pass-rates)?

thanks for commenting

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i disagree with the 'not a good instructor' comment: this's just a short clip and the video was made for a pupil who was making mistakes repeatedly- it's basic fault rectification & simply getting rid of bad habits that he acquired -as he rode a 125cc bike on his own before taking training.

i am the first to say that positive encouragement works well on pupils and i do just that! different pupils need different teaching methods however.

(BTW it worked and he passed)

thanks for commenting!

[YARDMASTER1234]

at 5.47 what position should u be in 2 or 3?

also what is proper procedure right hand lifesaver mirror signal, lifesaver, move into position 3 then lifesaver then move into lane?

or

right hand lifesaver , mirror signal, lifesaver then move into lane?

thankyou

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@YARDMASTER1234 the MC test is not about creating 'automatons' but 'thinking riders'. were the examiner to ask you to turn right at this point then why not look at the road surface, the markings, the hatch markings, etc. at 5.47 and decide for yourself- or simply train with an instructor in the area as these videos are simply a demonstration and not meant to replace instruction

thanks for posting

[Ianj1983]

Failed my test back in march, i forgot to knock indicator off when i pulled off from doing my u turn,i was thinking about doing the u turn and forgot to cancel it out.. I was suicidal when he said i failed. Hoping to try again soon,i be 100% focused next time.

[Solarfactor]

Get the lessons in and it will pay off! It did for me. :o)

A wise man once said: "If you wanna pass, get off your ass."

It's true. You only get out what you put in.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i wonder who that 'wise man' was LOL!

did he also say,

'if you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail'?

congrats

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

congrats to solarfactor for passing his test with yours truly, now riding a really nice cbr600

good stuff!

[moscowvespajoe]

@L2R,

On that note, in your experience, can you say what percentage of students Pass Mod 2 first time? Would you say most fail first time and have to go again? I'm not asking about pass rates for your school, just an honest appraisal of the situation in general.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

@moscowvespajoe you could check with the DSA for overall pass rates & get an exact percentage.

As with anything in Life, "If you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail." (or "If you wanna pass get off your ass!") Therefore if you train with a good school, listen to the advice given to you, practice regularly & book your test when your instructor feels that you are ready there should be no problem theoretically. (It's not a guarantee that you'll pass just a statement of readiness).

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

good for you- that's the only way to do it IMHO- get the practice in, do it right, get out again with a licence.

any questions, fire away!

[EdgeyForSure]

did he pass?

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

not yet edgeyforsure- he hasn't even applied for his practical test yet.(even though this effort is very good). he is still in the training stages: hence the name of the video 'pre-practical'. he has to get the theory out of the way before applying for the practical test (as well as doing the new manoeuvres for northern ireland's test). will let you know when he does pass

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

he passed his theory and is now going for the new manoeuvres test before the practical on road riding. will let you know how he gets on

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

passed the new manoeuvres test now up for the practical next week. will let you know how he gets on.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

went for his test but failed unfortunately for being too close to moving vehicles- all else was fine though save a few mis-timed lifesavers/ indications.

booked it again and this time he will remember i'm sure!

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

i forgot to get back to you, sorry mate.

yes he did pass after all!

[Premises187]

Happy to hear it.

I'm trying to save cash so I plan to get it right first time.

[learn2rideVIDEOS]

the best way!

just remember, there's no such thing as a perfect rider so if you fail (+i hope not) just go for it -and any other test- again!

the important thing is to learn from your mistakes and become a better rider.

let us know how you get on ok?!

ride safe