Cuz people are scared of talking about religions since they are so powerful. Its easier to anihilate a fukin arab country than to say there is something wrong with their religion. It is easier to point out that there are terrorists there then to point out that it was because of their religion that they attacked US and why their countries are so fucked up. If one points out the real problem one faces the danger of them uniting and as we know unity is powerful So take em one by one.
@2RayneR7 They didn't attack the US because of their religion. They attacked US led by one man's hatred of what the US stands for. Religion had little to do with 9/11, other than being a viable tool for brainwashing..
@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
I can not believe that you would equate Martin Luther King in the same catagory of the Islamic Terrorist that flyed airplanes into the trade towers, You are playing into the hands of those who would lump us all together. First the Moslem Fundemntalists, next it the Christian Fundementalitst, and Lastly all who would cherish freedom, and stand against their One World Socialist Regime. Read the words of Detrick Bonhoffer. This is exactly the way Hitler took over Germany.
Church is a man—made invention. There's nothing godly about playing church. Some call it sectarianism (religion). It's mammon worship. Hebrews 9: 11—12 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building (creation); Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
although i,m not a conspiracy nut, the pictures of the highjackers are bogus the indentitys have never been proved, what has been proven is some of the men are still alive and well and havee had there ids stolen by partys unknown.
@JOOGAL1111 There is no proof of ANY DEATHS on 911 except of the alleged victims pictures which are still extremely suspicious. Get familiar with the research please.
@JOOGAL1111 1. I don't have a psychiatrist. My mind is open to various scenarious.
2. These are not delusions. Only the right questions for the event and proof of video fakery.
3. You need to get your head out of your ass and get familiar with the research. Good place to start: septemberclues (dot) info . Yet it actually is a part of the whole research and has minor innacuracies. You will understand that islam has nothing to do with these kind of military/media psy-ops.
@LithuanianGuitar my mind is open on the subjct of 911. I don,t believe the official bullshit story either. Thats where you and i agree but its a disgrace that you think know one died on 911,what planet are you on i,ve done some digging myself and have been to these sites like no planes these guys re kooks and delusional. There are literaly thousands of eye witnesses who saw and heard the planes. I personally think these are disinfo sites so the mainstream can dismiss all theories out of hand.
@JOOGAL1111 You are free to believe whatever you want, but atleast, please get familiar with how psychological operations work. I know all this stuff sounds crazy as fuck, but give it a try.
@LithuanianGuitar Dude, really? What is more probable, the family of 4,000+ victims of 9/11 are making up where their family and loved ones went on 9/11, or that they are lying?
I understand that with the unidentified bodies charred at ground zero probably factored into you logic here, but your logic is bull.
See the thing is that you are having delusions, and you are a little bastard. Quit being a douche and stop posting your psychotic conspiracy bull.
@glynch55 Nice logic and arguments there. If you atleast tried to be open minded and checked out the research, it would be good. But you just have, JUST HAVE to be defensive as fuck, don't you? :D
septemberclues (dot) info Check that stuff out, you'll see if it's delutional, fucker. Atleast get the fucking understanding what the fuck is military psy-op...
@LithuanianGuitar I just look at it logically. Whats more likely, thousands of families are making up that their loved ones died and that the government wanted to do this; or that radical muslims acted out onto a force who they openly protest? The same radical groups who regularly strap bombs to children and kill people without regard to human life.
I think you are a little too offended by people who refuse to believe your conspiracy theory which you have obviously invested too much time in.
@glynch55 Where are those families I wonder? Not many really showed up. Why only 1 or 2 pictures of the alleged victim (very suspicious pictures showing photoshopping signs). But do I really have to explain everything to you? I see you do not care to take a look at the research. Do you really accept the official story of 911 which is proven bullshit? :D Do you understand that many pictures and videos of 911 have been proven altered/faked/photoshopped?
@LithuanianGuitar Nice language too! For the record I actually do not consider ignorant people that flame on Youtube videos to have any sort of credit worthy of my actual consideration. You seem to also think that the definition, let alone the idea of a psy-op is beyond anybody's grasp of the world. I actually haven't looked into it but I will guess that it has something to do with an operation performed by the military which is supposed to influence people to thinking something they want them 2
@glynch55 Nice. You're almost getting there. Now when you understand the point of military/media psychological operation, I suggest you to check out septemberclues (dot) info website (forums, videos, articles). It is NOT 100 % accurate, but worth checking. You are going to continue this pointless discussion or actually accept the fact that muslims were not involved in 911? -.- Or atleast open your mind...
@LithuanianGuitar ok look at sharia law . look at the law in some countries today where the penalty of deconversion of islam is death. and you say they won't do this?
this vid is bullshit. anyone who is not bought and paid for still saying that 19 highjackers where responsible for 9/11 let alone theyre religion is a asleep at the switch and needs to open their eyes.
@slickrickdarula it's understandable that a delusional theist such as yourself could delude yourself into believing 9/11 was some sort of conspiracy. I think it's time to put your tin foil hat back on and talk to your invisible friend.
@mediumphill I have FAITH in God. I KNOW 9/11 was not done by 19 arab highjackers.
2 seperate things... don`t get them twisted. I do not need to justify myself to you. And truth will not be changed by you calling me crazy. Keep believing all the US govt tell you. JFK, Bay of Tonkin... its all on the up and up... and I am crazy for questioning the people who sold us the Irak war?
@slickrickdarula Firstly, it's spelled Iraq, secondly, I'm not American so why would I have any motive to support the US government or even listen to them, I'm rational and have lead to conclude that Islamic fundamentalists are most likely the culprits for 9/11. The fact that you believe faith is more conclusive than educated reasoning shows that you are in fact, crazy. Also the people who sold you the 'Irak war' had faith that it was a mission sent from God, explain why their faith is wrong?
@mediumphill believe what you will. Bush never mentioned the mission of God... the entire US government/media lied to the american public about non-existant weapons and non-existant links between al-qaeda and Irak. costing over 3000 US casualtys and over 500 000 iraki deaths. Now to trust anything they say without looking deeper is foolish. I told you Faith and knowledge are not the same at all. I was making a difference between both. You twist my words.
@mediumphill you state: The fact that you believe faith is more conclusive than educated reasoning shows that you are in fact, crazy
when in reality I wrote: ''I have FAITH in God. I KNOW 9/11 was not done by 19 arab highjackers. 2 seperate things... don`t get them twisted.''
Now where is I say one is more conclusive... I say they are seperate and not to get them twisted. Yet you do and call me crazy. Learn to read and understand before shouting insults kiddo.
@slickrickdarula Was I saying that you had faith in your knowledge, nope, I was merely stating that illogical faith in God over reason was crazy. '' Learn to read and understand before shouting insults kiddo.'' sound familiar.
One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'.
@mediumphill so you are saying anyone with any faith in God is labeled crazy? Why are you still talking to me? You call me crazy. I must be. Again disbelieve in God. It is not my problem. Nor is my faith yours. You will not convince me of anything especially after insulting my faith and my inteligence. This is pointless. So let's just end this here. ty
@slickrickdarula Yes, anyone who in the 21st century who still ignores blatant scientific conclusions and facts is crazy to refute them and still believe in a fictional character created by unintelligent men thousands of years ago. Furthermore, when you comment on videos like this labeling them bullshit because you're a dumbass conspiracy theorist, you are my problem. You challenge rationality and reason, so I argue against it rather than let it fly unchallenged.
@slickrickdarula Yeah, with time I'll just be an Atheist with a PhD. That why I'm in University, because I'm so immature. There are still a large number irrational theists , you're one of very few parading their ignorance on youtube, so expect to have to answer to a large Atheist community.
@mediumphill Even the truth in science 20 years ago is not the truth of today let alone 200 years ago... All I am saying is... keep an open mind. Be less fast to hate. There is no absolute truth in religion, but neither will you find it in any science except for Mathematics. And even then, many mathematical theory's are still debated. ex: 0.9infinite=1.
At 18 i also saw the world in black/white like you... but it greys up
@slickrickdarula Why do you assume I hate, I just oppose. My motivation to oppose is that I want the truth, not superstitions, not assumptions. Also Scientists in the past didn't have technology as advanced as they do today, we know the moon orbits around the earth, we know the earth orbits the sun, that won't change. If you can make assert a God without evidence, I can dismiss it without evidence. I have an open mind, it's why I observe evidence before making a conclusion.
@mediumphill Opposing is showing your side. Engaging in discussion. Trying to convince. You insult, degrade, twist my words, mix up my faith in God with my knowledge of the events of 9/11. Why do I say you hate:
"you're one of very few parading their ignorance on youtube"
"you're a dumbass "
this is hate not opposition. And btw check YT... filled with people asking the truth about 9/11... also filled with people who believe in God (which is totally seperate) Go and troll them all...
@slickrickdarula It's impossible to debate you pseudo-intellects. Yes youtube is filled with both Conspiracy theorists and Theists, people who make assumptions with no evidence, that's not intelligence, that's speculative nonsense. Did you not see the 2 planes fly into the towers on 9/11, that's what happens when Islamic extremists plot terror on a nation. Stop ignoring the fact religions are intolerant of eachother.
@mediumphill did I claim planes did not fly into the WTC towers 1 and 2? No I did not. You never asked me what I actually thought. You came right out and called me crazy, retard, illogical etc. Here is some science homework for you. Find me the weakening temperature for industrial steel. And then find me the maximum burning temperature of modern jet fuel. Do the math. My questions about 9/11 are all very scientific. You did not bother to check.
@slickrickdarula What happens when joints on a frame are weakened and there are thousands of tons of pressure above them, gravity does its job. The funny thing about the explosions is that you don't seem to hear them on the phone calls from the victims trapped in the building. An explosion powerful enough to have crippled the structure of a building would have created some fucking noise. It's sad that I have to explain this to an adult.
@slickrickdarula@trueleroix If you think that the steel needed to reach it's melting point, then this may be a little advanced for you: Search "steel in world trade center" at Google. Pick the pick the first listing. from TMS dot org. Sorry to show the source, but you did write what you wrote.
@slickrickdarula it is not an insult to explain the truth. So you did not correct your error or acknowledge that you are wrong, I provided a link to a report. Your previous statement admitted that you believed that the melting point of steel would be required to be reached for the building to fall. You refuse to acknowledge this error. I will assume that you refused to do the research. I don't know why you shun truth. Good luck with that.
@trueleroix Kennedy assas, Bay of Tonkin, USS liberty, Iraq WMD, Iraq link to Al Qaeda, it is all on the up and up, why would I even dare to doubt the US govt? I am sorry you are right. I will now see only one side of a coin and never dare flip it. I will never again look at more then the link you tell me are correct and will dismiss all other sources of information.
@slickrickdarula No, man. You should stop doing that. Stop believing everything you hear. Flip the coin. Open your mind. Examine the real evidence on all sides. You should not be afraid to doubt the US government, and should know that they tell the truth and lie. Don't be a sheep.
@slickrickdarula You just mentioned a few hot button issues, but never mind why you did that. Think for yourself. Don't just swallow some story. You must look at both sides of the coin. You can start today.
because Religion is a mechanism of social control and revitalization movements within a religion are mechanisms of social change. in the earliest agricultural societies, religion served as a foundation upon which authority was bequeathed..usually in the form of a "God King" type individual. before agriculture and its accompanying population explosion, religion was more of a primitive substitute for science. there's been some interesting work in anthropology on the subject..you might look into it
It's interesting that the same book that Dr King used spread his message of civil rights was also the same book that was used to justify slavery. Basically, the bible says everything under the sun. People simply choose the parts they like to push their own agenda whether its good or bad. Obviously an imperfect manmade book. Well, thanks for the vids.
an other example would be the Kamikaze fighters in WWII where they did not did it just for their god(the emperor) they did it because they thought if they do that then they can Bring the United states to negotiation and prevent Japan to being torn up.
I think the civil right movement and the war against the middle east is much more complicated then that. example not every one that was religious was for slavery rather a good amount were against it (It would have effected the economy of slave owning nations) as for the middle east a lot of them don't want to be martyrs; in many cases they are conditioned,trick, force, or even bought/paid to do so.
The Yankee is typical of christian cultist. The abrahamic cults are evil and dangerous. Followers believe in violance in word and in deed towards those that do not follow blindly the dogma of their particular cult Religious history shows clearly shows that. They are taught that some being is always watching them, even their thoughts and dreams, and if they cross the line extreme violance awaits.
@max2right At their core the abrahamic religions are death cults looking forward to the apocalyptic destruction of the planet as a means of escaping the uncertainty of this life into another life which is perfect. It's insane but, the all believe it and a large portion are eager to get the final battle between good and evil started. Each believes the other is wrong and and only they will be saved into the better life. Evil and dangerous.
if a heaven should exist, you really do expect to go there? Even i monkeygorilladicksuckinfaggotcrackeer of an atheist have better chances there. But who am i to judge, your pityful existence is a lifetime sentence anyway.
Farewell, you even aren't worth to be dizzed you poor little hatespilling wannabetoughnigger ;)
The problem with religion isn't even rooted in the issues of truth or logic. It is competition. Only when believers of religions are passive and take no reaction to other religions would most of the problems we have go away. Religion like any form of expression should stand on its own merits and not use aggressive tactics of indoctrination to succeed in popularity.
pro: abolition slavery, civil movement, increased sense of security.
con: degrading to human advancement, unnecessary murder, degrading to human rights, degrading to tolerance, initially increased the length of slavery anyway.
people believe 9/11 was an inside job b/c it is physically impossible for jet fuel to melt steel. it is also physically impossible for fire to pulverize tons of concrete into dust. however, anyone who says "i know 9/11 was an inside job" is crazy.
@maskedwalnut Yes! anyone that thinks 911 was an inside job is indeed crazy. What is the basis for your claim that jet fuel cannot melt steel? What is the melting temperature of the steel used? At what temperature does jet fuel burn? Do you have information that the steel actually melted rather than weakening to the point that it could not support the weight? Could the concrete be pulverized by crashing hundreds of feet to the pavement below?
I don't see why conspiracy theorists use the "jet fuel cannot melt steel" argument. That may be true, but it is totally irrelevant. People act as if steel is a hard, ridged solid, but once it reaches a certain point it just liquefies instantly. Not true. Metals are softened up under high temperatures. This is how blacksmiths bend iron. Once the steel in the towers became hot enough to bend, the structural integrity was lost. No melting involved.
anyone who believes in anything is a mental midget and should be hung... That's right I'm saying 85-90% of the world's human population needs to go in order to salvage what is left of our earth... If you disagree you are part of that 85-90% that needs to go.
you seem to assert a positive correlation between alturism and religion, "self-sacrifice mechanism".. when really this type of it is really more about compensatory mechanisms/ evolutionary selection at other levels. is it religion which exploits it, or the apathetic?
all people who believe that 9/11 was an inside-job are retards.
if i showed you a fake documentary (without telling you it was fake) where i showed that bigfoot planned 9/11 to cover up Godzillas involvement in the Holocaust then you would believe it.
@selaron1000 Dude, watch Loose Change. It lays out the case that 9/11 was either orchestrated or enabled by our government. And is actually supported by shocking amount of evidence... disturbing to be sure, the truth of it is up to debate.
all people who believe that 9/11 was an inside-job are retards.
if i showed you a fake documentary (without telling you it was fake) where i showed that bigfoot planned 9/11 to cover up Godzillas involvement in the Holocaust then you would believe it.
I don't think the Yin and Yang have nearly as much to do with the other 3 symbols, but I can understand why you use it; it's a symbol. George Carlin said it well "I leave symbols to the symbol-mined."
Good video. Trying being an atheist and engaged to what i can only call a christian fanatic....We have hours of fun in arguements. life is never dull....I can only thank dawkins for my ammo in winning just about every argument....As for hitler being an atheist, I think you'll find many a speech to his soldiers using religion, so atheist or not, he used it.
I kinda like this approach. I think it's a fairly non revolutionary idea, I think it's largely accepted, but.. I like the idea of starting from square one to question assumptions in a way.
Frankly religious people should welcome this, it gives them a way out from otherwise concluding that the correlation between social ills and religion suggests that religion causes rather than results from it.
Personally, I suspect that it's both. I mean it's also hardly revolutionary to suggest that a type of religion that seeks to keep the youth ignorant about sex will end up having higher levels of teen pregnancy, and the numbers support this. Some social ills are fairly easy to demonstrate this way.
At the same time the idea of social stress strengthening religious bonds is also fairly easy for me to accept, even if I don't have any simple casual mechanism like the teen pregnancy thing to cite.
I know you'll mention many different events, I'll address them as people reply to this post.
Keep in mind that many acts are done in defense of themselves or for the sake of others. (You wouldn't criticize WWII soldiers for taking down the Nazis)
There are many atrocities that have been committed in the name of atheism as well.
Each of these regimes focused on power, but they also emphasized a complete removal of religion. In Russia alone, over 140 churches were burned down, why didn't we see a scientific renaissance?
I have not included the atrocities in mexico where they crucified people to telephone poles...
" why didn't we see a scientific renaissance?" - because whilst removal of religion (and institution of psudeo religions in the case of communism) did result from these new social trends, the social trends themselves are what made the systems fail.
ie. do you think communism failed because it removed religion or because communism as a system sucks?
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I may be thinking of a different kind of Catholicism, but the Pope ordained and blessed the Crusaders for doing God's work. Also, Hitler was a Catholic.
The Crusades were a retaliatory attack against Muslim aggression into Europe and Spain.
If they had not of done that, then the war would have been waged in Europe, forestalling the Renaissance.
As for Hitler, he 'publicly' called himself catholic, but in private he had machinations to destroy the catholic church. He confided this to one of his closest friends, Joseph Goebbels.
Keep in mind Hitler was a liar (Munich Agreement).
@Funkyflorist The First crusade was not retaliatory. pope urban was convinced by Peter the Hermit to launch a crusade to capture the holy land that had fallen into muslim hands after the seventh or eighth century but it had been taken from the Eastern or Byzantium Roman Empire and it was the Roman Catholic Church that launched the crusades, the of the muslim attacks did not come until the corsairs of the ottoman empire started attacking out of north African ports in the twelfth centuries
I will refer you to the Moor's and their military incursions into Spain, initiated in 730, and 750 C.E. (Christian Era). By 790 CE they controlled most of Spain.
If we take notice of the dates, these attacks preceded the crusades you mentioned. There is also the omission of abuse of Christian and Jewish pilgrims in and around Jerusalem that further seeded unrest.
We might as well criticize the Navy for shooting Somalian Pirates.
@Funkyflorist So i get from this that europe only engages of defensive wars while Islam engages in offensive wars ??? If you want to know what was forestalling the Renaissance i will tell you that it was the dark ages and the church and one of the biggest events that brought about the renaissance was Islamic knowledge.
Man has free will to create disorder or peace. Religion cannot be blammed for the evil actions of man. Man can however be blamed for manipulating religion to support their struggles for power, justice, authority etc.
This manipulation is found even at the heart of some holy books which have been distorted out of their original form and taken out of context- again to aid man in his unholy tendencies.
Then we have a major contradiction that combines 'Religious Fanatics' and 'Logic and Facts'. They are called the Jesuits. This order of monks is responsible for countless achievements that brought about Modern Science in Europe*. Including; Medical research of circulatory systems, research of heredity and plants, research in metallurgy, research of agriculture, mathematics, astronomy, physics, optics.
*How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, pg. 100
@Funkyflorist are you serious? O_o. I do not deny that "Jesuits" as INDIVIDUALS did contribute to development, HOWEVER, AS A MAJORITY the religion hindered scientific development mainly because any of researchers that contradicted G*D got killed/punished or labeled as heretic; Unlike Law or Science religion is more susceptible and WAS used as political tool. Fortunately separation of state and religion ended that, leading to modern society , atlest TRY to understand the reason for that, hmmm
Do you have any Citations or References for that claim?
Would you like to take a tour of Stalinist Russia and its 'advancement' without religion? They MUST have advanced because they burned down over 142 churches...
Even if we take EVERY death caused by religion, it only amounts to about 7% of all deaths in human history... The VAST MAJORITY of death and carnage is caused by NON-religious motivations.
"What percentage of these killings were due to religious democide? It is less than 3% of the totals."
Now you may question the source for these numbers, but when you learn it is a Nobel Prize Finalist (R.J. Rummel) his research is peer-reviewed and open for scrutiny.
@Funkyflorist -_-, wow, what an avid replier. If you are backing your argument on RELIGION then why are you referencing Nobel Prize Finalist (R.J. Rummel), he have accomplished that not due to "GOD" but because he understood scientific method. Also, sure there are atrocities that were done in history by non religious,
You asserted that religion is responsible for death and stagnation. I cited two sources that show that religious motivations are not the main cause for death and stagnation. I further asserted that (in contrast) Russia's experiment with enforced atheism was QUITE destructive.
You used an ad hominen;
Person A asserts case C.
Person B says case C was 'accomplished' because of the scientific method.
"You asserted that religion is responsible for death and stagnation" - that's not an assertion, that's a fact as demonstrated by the crusades, the inquisitions and September 11.
"Russia's experiment with enforced atheism was QUITE destructive" - russias atheism? oh please do tell how Russias atheism was any more responsible than mustaches because religion is directly responsible for the events we are talking about :)
If you assert that religion is responsible for 9/11 or the spanish inquisition (which the church was actually opposed to and punished spain for carrying it out)
Then it is easy to blame atheism for burning down over 140 churces and killing over 60 million people.
Religious motivations account for less than 3% of deaths in all of human history.
@Funkyflorist -_-, I think you should put this great ability to debate you demonstrated in you arguments into contributing to development of our society, for example; program for children in distress, etc. other vice there is no benefit to anyone, including yourself from your "argument", am I right?. its obvious, people get tired of this, and after few rounds they see that you just miss the very basic point of this video, now that makes sense, does it not?
Person B says person A should focus efforts elsewhere
Therefore case C is false...
As for other attacks against Catholics (shock) very few people know the whole details, particularly with Galileo. (Read: The Sleepwalkers, by Arthur Koestler)
I bet Tfoot forgot to mention that Galileo asserted that the TIDES were evidence and were due to earth's motion...
@raz357 Well, the simple fact that you cannot summon up one ounce of evidence for anything you say with reference to long periods of time which is indoctrination into evolution theory. I thank you for your time and hope that you will discover that you have been lied to during yoru entire education.
"I see no reason for the social taboo of not examining religion"
Thunderf00t, you are spot on (as you obviously know). I'm in High School and we had to do a book presentation in front of our English class and I chose "The End of Faith" which I'm sure we're all familiar with. My classmates were all stunned when I shared Harris' view of pushing the blame on religious moderates, but in the end I got a big applause for it. Thanks for inspiring me with the courage to speak out.
@raz357 Apparently you can't seem to grasp that if not for the belief in evolution you would dismiss any notion of 40,000 years. Every aspect of history being taught in school is tainted by evolution theory. Who was there 40,000 years ago to observe anything thing you are saying? And please don't recite something about ancient text because if some other text is suppose to be valid then mine will automatically be equally valid.
@raz357 "How does that negate my argument?" Your own words in the post that I initially responded to. "Stripped to the bare bones, religion is tribalism." What is your definition of tribalism? Are you saying men were living in tribes during the time of the Romans, the Greeks, the Babylonians, etcs?
What era of time are you referring to as the time when religion arose? When I think of the the time when the civilizations were around I don't think of tribes I think of barbaric conquests.
If you would stop and think for a second, you would realize that everything you believe is based on the assumption that evolution is true.
And excuse me if I don't accept a full fledged atheist's opinion for anything, especially one that entertains the idea that we could have been seeded here by aliens.
The major religions' founders are of interest as it is these prophets' actions which are to be analysed to get the essence of what their respective religions are supposed to inculcate. Deviations away from the founding principles should be jugded as such.
Man has free will to create disorder or peace. Religion cannot be blammed for the evil actions of man. Man can however be blamed for manipulating religion to support their struggles for power, justice, authority etc.
This manipulation is found even at the heart of some holy books which have been distorted out of their original form and taken out of context- again to aid man in his unholy tendencies.
i hear so many christians say what a nemesis islam is to the world. if only they could realize that they're sitting on a half truth and need to take it one step further to see that it is religion as a hole that is a detriment to society
Ultimately, superstition is the problem; religion is a subset of that. Education is necessary to get rid of all forms of superstition. The problem is, the less educated people are, the more superstitious and religious. Religion encourages ignorance and superstition. Many uneducated people do need religion to stop them from killing; the solution would be to educate them but the religion used to placate them prevents most education. It is truly a vicious cycle that is hard to break.
if you look at society from the beginning it has always been classicism that destroys all nations... between rich and poor. the questions are who has what resources... who is willing to sacrifice... for the better of their society... all in a circus of donkeys while all the Pinocchio's lead the tools, slaves, better yet citizens... most will stand under and few will stand up.
@Surathan actually its his southern dialect like in some places in the UK people say "yous" for you all. Just dialect I cant see him having the same effect if he spoke in recieved pronunciation.
So where are the results???
inquiring minds want to know.
TYVM
psburningman 6 months ago
Cuz people are scared of talking about religions since they are so powerful. Its easier to anihilate a fukin arab country than to say there is something wrong with their religion. It is easier to point out that there are terrorists there then to point out that it was because of their religion that they attacked US and why their countries are so fucked up. If one points out the real problem one faces the danger of them uniting and as we know unity is powerful So take em one by one.
2RayneR7 9 months ago
@2RayneR7 They didn't attack the US because of their religion. They attacked US led by one man's hatred of what the US stands for. Religion had little to do with 9/11, other than being a viable tool for brainwashing..
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@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
2RayneR7 5 months ago
@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
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@DaToNyOyO But religion was used to make those people do that. Those people don't understand the one man's hatred towards the US way of life. They could never understand it. So that is why religion is used to brainwash those people into thinking its all about religious difference. I am not saying its really about religion but that religion makes this possible. Because religion is for the simple people. And simple people are the ones that do the deeds. The smart people just watch.
2RayneR7 5 months ago
Mrpl779 he was saying religion can do good and do evil
SergeiTheAnarch 9 months ago
I can not believe that you would equate Martin Luther King in the same catagory of the Islamic Terrorist that flyed airplanes into the trade towers, You are playing into the hands of those who would lump us all together. First the Moslem Fundemntalists, next it the Christian Fundementalitst, and Lastly all who would cherish freedom, and stand against their One World Socialist Regime. Read the words of Detrick Bonhoffer. This is exactly the way Hitler took over Germany.
Mrpl778 10 months ago
Church is a man—made invention. There's nothing godly about playing church. Some call it sectarianism (religion). It's mammon worship. Hebrews 9: 11—12 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building (creation); Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
SwordofSpirit1 10 months ago
wasn't this speech copyrighted by this guys brother?
4at4ish 11 months ago
@LithuanianGuitar
Wow, uhhhhh, no, Dude, Seriously. You should get a psychiatrist. You are *definitely* unwell.
Or your just really sick, really fucking DUMB, or both! Lol
macgeek2004 11 months ago
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911 was an inside job.
Evilfisher 1 year ago
although i,m not a conspiracy nut, the pictures of the highjackers are bogus the indentitys have never been proved, what has been proven is some of the men are still alive and well and havee had there ids stolen by partys unknown.
JOOGAL1111 1 year ago
@JOOGAL1111 There is no proof of ANY DEATHS on 911 except of the alleged victims pictures which are still extremely suspicious. Get familiar with the research please.
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar you need to do some research into finding a psychiatrist to help your delusions.
JOOGAL1111 1 year ago
@JOOGAL1111 1. I don't have a psychiatrist. My mind is open to various scenarious.
2. These are not delusions. Only the right questions for the event and proof of video fakery.
3. You need to get your head out of your ass and get familiar with the research. Good place to start: septemberclues (dot) info . Yet it actually is a part of the whole research and has minor innacuracies. You will understand that islam has nothing to do with these kind of military/media psy-ops.
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar my mind is open on the subjct of 911. I don,t believe the official bullshit story either. Thats where you and i agree but its a disgrace that you think know one died on 911,what planet are you on i,ve done some digging myself and have been to these sites like no planes these guys re kooks and delusional. There are literaly thousands of eye witnesses who saw and heard the planes. I personally think these are disinfo sites so the mainstream can dismiss all theories out of hand.
JOOGAL1111 1 year ago
@JOOGAL1111 You are free to believe whatever you want, but atleast, please get familiar with how psychological operations work. I know all this stuff sounds crazy as fuck, but give it a try.
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@JOOGAL1111 I'm not saying no one died. I'm saying there is no valid proof of deaths on 911. To me the victim stuff is still a theory.
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar Dude, really? What is more probable, the family of 4,000+ victims of 9/11 are making up where their family and loved ones went on 9/11, or that they are lying?
I understand that with the unidentified bodies charred at ground zero probably factored into you logic here, but your logic is bull.
See the thing is that you are having delusions, and you are a little bastard. Quit being a douche and stop posting your psychotic conspiracy bull.
glynch55 1 year ago
@glynch55 Nice logic and arguments there. If you atleast tried to be open minded and checked out the research, it would be good. But you just have, JUST HAVE to be defensive as fuck, don't you? :D
septemberclues (dot) info Check that stuff out, you'll see if it's delutional, fucker. Atleast get the fucking understanding what the fuck is military psy-op...
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@glynch55 And if you are going to tell me, that muslims had something to do with 911, may you go fuck yourself :). Thank you :).
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar I just look at it logically. Whats more likely, thousands of families are making up that their loved ones died and that the government wanted to do this; or that radical muslims acted out onto a force who they openly protest? The same radical groups who regularly strap bombs to children and kill people without regard to human life.
I think you are a little too offended by people who refuse to believe your conspiracy theory which you have obviously invested too much time in.
glynch55 1 year ago
@glynch55 Where are those families I wonder? Not many really showed up. Why only 1 or 2 pictures of the alleged victim (very suspicious pictures showing photoshopping signs). But do I really have to explain everything to you? I see you do not care to take a look at the research. Do you really accept the official story of 911 which is proven bullshit? :D Do you understand that many pictures and videos of 911 have been proven altered/faked/photoshopped?
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar Nice language too! For the record I actually do not consider ignorant people that flame on Youtube videos to have any sort of credit worthy of my actual consideration. You seem to also think that the definition, let alone the idea of a psy-op is beyond anybody's grasp of the world. I actually haven't looked into it but I will guess that it has something to do with an operation performed by the military which is supposed to influence people to thinking something they want them 2
glynch55 1 year ago
@glynch55 Nice. You're almost getting there. Now when you understand the point of military/media psychological operation, I suggest you to check out septemberclues (dot) info website (forums, videos, articles). It is NOT 100 % accurate, but worth checking. You are going to continue this pointless discussion or actually accept the fact that muslims were not involved in 911? -.- Or atleast open your mind...
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar ok look at sharia law . look at the law in some countries today where the penalty of deconversion of islam is death. and you say they won't do this?
cake1834 1 year ago
@cake1834 They CAN do this. But I have a high, VERY high doubt they did 911. Just too much fucking nonsense on the official story :)
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar not they can they DO you are trying to say that they wouldn't
cake1834 1 year ago
@cake1834 I'm trying to say - official story is an absolute nonsense :).
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
@LithuanianGuitar yes you are with no grounds proof or evidence. and you have seen sharia law and you continue to deny its existence
cake1834 1 year ago
@cake1834 Who the hell told you I'm denying sharia law's existence?
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
What I wanna say, that 911 was a gigantic media/government/military hoax :) and has nothing to do with religion.
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
Many, pretty much most 9/11 videos are forged and proven FAKE! Do more research about this psyop...
septemberclues (dot) info is a good place to start...
LithuanianGuitar 1 year ago
this vid is bullshit. anyone who is not bought and paid for still saying that 19 highjackers where responsible for 9/11 let alone theyre religion is a asleep at the switch and needs to open their eyes.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula it's understandable that a delusional theist such as yourself could delude yourself into believing 9/11 was some sort of conspiracy. I think it's time to put your tin foil hat back on and talk to your invisible friend.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill I have FAITH in God. I KNOW 9/11 was not done by 19 arab highjackers.
2 seperate things... don`t get them twisted. I do not need to justify myself to you. And truth will not be changed by you calling me crazy. Keep believing all the US govt tell you. JFK, Bay of Tonkin... its all on the up and up... and I am crazy for questioning the people who sold us the Irak war?
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Firstly, it's spelled Iraq, secondly, I'm not American so why would I have any motive to support the US government or even listen to them, I'm rational and have lead to conclude that Islamic fundamentalists are most likely the culprits for 9/11. The fact that you believe faith is more conclusive than educated reasoning shows that you are in fact, crazy. Also the people who sold you the 'Irak war' had faith that it was a mission sent from God, explain why their faith is wrong?
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill believe what you will. Bush never mentioned the mission of God... the entire US government/media lied to the american public about non-existant weapons and non-existant links between al-qaeda and Irak. costing over 3000 US casualtys and over 500 000 iraki deaths. Now to trust anything they say without looking deeper is foolish. I told you Faith and knowledge are not the same at all. I was making a difference between both. You twist my words.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@mediumphill you state: The fact that you believe faith is more conclusive than educated reasoning shows that you are in fact, crazy
when in reality I wrote: ''I have FAITH in God. I KNOW 9/11 was not done by 19 arab highjackers. 2 seperate things... don`t get them twisted.''
Now where is I say one is more conclusive... I say they are seperate and not to get them twisted. Yet you do and call me crazy. Learn to read and understand before shouting insults kiddo.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Was I saying that you had faith in your knowledge, nope, I was merely stating that illogical faith in God over reason was crazy. '' Learn to read and understand before shouting insults kiddo.'' sound familiar.
One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'.
One of many witness accounts.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill so you are saying anyone with any faith in God is labeled crazy? Why are you still talking to me? You call me crazy. I must be. Again disbelieve in God. It is not my problem. Nor is my faith yours. You will not convince me of anything especially after insulting my faith and my inteligence. This is pointless. So let's just end this here. ty
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Yes, anyone who in the 21st century who still ignores blatant scientific conclusions and facts is crazy to refute them and still believe in a fictional character created by unintelligent men thousands of years ago. Furthermore, when you comment on videos like this labeling them bullshit because you're a dumbass conspiracy theorist, you are my problem. You challenge rationality and reason, so I argue against it rather than let it fly unchallenged.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill look you are 18 I understand. You will wise up with time. Have a good one.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Yeah, with time I'll just be an Atheist with a PhD. That why I'm in University, because I'm so immature. There are still a large number irrational theists , you're one of very few parading their ignorance on youtube, so expect to have to answer to a large Atheist community.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill Even the truth in science 20 years ago is not the truth of today let alone 200 years ago... All I am saying is... keep an open mind. Be less fast to hate. There is no absolute truth in religion, but neither will you find it in any science except for Mathematics. And even then, many mathematical theory's are still debated. ex: 0.9infinite=1.
At 18 i also saw the world in black/white like you... but it greys up
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Why do you assume I hate, I just oppose. My motivation to oppose is that I want the truth, not superstitions, not assumptions. Also Scientists in the past didn't have technology as advanced as they do today, we know the moon orbits around the earth, we know the earth orbits the sun, that won't change. If you can make assert a God without evidence, I can dismiss it without evidence. I have an open mind, it's why I observe evidence before making a conclusion.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill Opposing is showing your side. Engaging in discussion. Trying to convince. You insult, degrade, twist my words, mix up my faith in God with my knowledge of the events of 9/11. Why do I say you hate:
"you're one of very few parading their ignorance on youtube"
"you're a dumbass "
this is hate not opposition. And btw check YT... filled with people asking the truth about 9/11... also filled with people who believe in God (which is totally seperate) Go and troll them all...
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula It's impossible to debate you pseudo-intellects. Yes youtube is filled with both Conspiracy theorists and Theists, people who make assumptions with no evidence, that's not intelligence, that's speculative nonsense. Did you not see the 2 planes fly into the towers on 9/11, that's what happens when Islamic extremists plot terror on a nation. Stop ignoring the fact religions are intolerant of eachother.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill did I claim planes did not fly into the WTC towers 1 and 2? No I did not. You never asked me what I actually thought. You came right out and called me crazy, retard, illogical etc. Here is some science homework for you. Find me the weakening temperature for industrial steel. And then find me the maximum burning temperature of modern jet fuel. Do the math. My questions about 9/11 are all very scientific. You did not bother to check.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula What happens when joints on a frame are weakened and there are thousands of tons of pressure above them, gravity does its job. The funny thing about the explosions is that you don't seem to hear them on the phone calls from the victims trapped in the building. An explosion powerful enough to have crippled the structure of a building would have created some fucking noise. It's sad that I have to explain this to an adult.
mediumphill 1 year ago
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@mediumphill you do not answer me. I asked 2 simple questions easily checked up on the web. you again go off on your hate.
''created some fucking noise''
'' It's sad that I have to explain this to an adult."
I asked for 2 temperatures. Not for explanations.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula Yup, the math proves you wrong. I dare you to ask my source.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@trueleroix what is the melting point of steel? The math proves me right.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula @trueleroix If you think that the steel needed to reach it's melting point, then this may be a little advanced for you: Search "steel in world trade center" at Google. Pick the pick the first listing. from TMS dot org. Sorry to show the source, but you did write what you wrote.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@trueleroix again with the insults. I do not need your tips. I have done my research. Believe what you will it changes nothing. Have a nice life.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula it is not an insult to explain the truth. So you did not correct your error or acknowledge that you are wrong, I provided a link to a report. Your previous statement admitted that you believed that the melting point of steel would be required to be reached for the building to fall. You refuse to acknowledge this error. I will assume that you refused to do the research. I don't know why you shun truth. Good luck with that.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@trueleroix Kennedy assas, Bay of Tonkin, USS liberty, Iraq WMD, Iraq link to Al Qaeda, it is all on the up and up, why would I even dare to doubt the US govt? I am sorry you are right. I will now see only one side of a coin and never dare flip it. I will never again look at more then the link you tell me are correct and will dismiss all other sources of information.
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula No, man. You should stop doing that. Stop believing everything you hear. Flip the coin. Open your mind. Examine the real evidence on all sides. You should not be afraid to doubt the US government, and should know that they tell the truth and lie. Don't be a sheep.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula You just mentioned a few hot button issues, but never mind why you did that. Think for yourself. Don't just swallow some story. You must look at both sides of the coin. You can start today.
trueleroix 1 year ago
@trueleroix that was irony... just forget about it lol
slickrickdarula 1 year ago
@slickrickdarula You should hone your critical thinking skills before attempting to use irony. Look up Poe's law to understand why.
trueleroix 1 year ago
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9/11 was an inside job
wigahiga500 1 year ago
you suck at politics. Leave it, concentrate on science.
Mist9879 1 year ago
@Mist9879 politicians suck at politics.
mediumphill 1 year ago
@mediumphill true, but so does thunderfoot
Mist9879 1 year ago
because Religion is a mechanism of social control and revitalization movements within a religion are mechanisms of social change. in the earliest agricultural societies, religion served as a foundation upon which authority was bequeathed..usually in the form of a "God King" type individual. before agriculture and its accompanying population explosion, religion was more of a primitive substitute for science. there's been some interesting work in anthropology on the subject..you might look into it
Fenyxfire 1 year ago
@Yankee81186 nice job religious troll. Nice job at showing how much of an idiot you really are.
supersmash43 1 year ago
No Taboo here Sr. Thunderf00t
TABOOVSKNOWLEDGE 1 year ago
@nadgara
Jesus is dead, and won't be returning any time soon.
SexedUpAtheist 1 year ago
@Yankee81186 It's a slight difference between having evolved from monkeys and beeing a monkey.
I love bananas btw!
zkvattram 1 year ago
It's interesting that the same book that Dr King used spread his message of civil rights was also the same book that was used to justify slavery. Basically, the bible says everything under the sun. People simply choose the parts they like to push their own agenda whether its good or bad. Obviously an imperfect manmade book. Well, thanks for the vids.
Slayeroffilth666 1 year ago
Montgomery?
Flea Market.
PinchySkree 1 year ago
an other example would be the Kamikaze fighters in WWII where they did not did it just for their god(the emperor) they did it because they thought if they do that then they can Bring the United states to negotiation and prevent Japan to being torn up.
kazehikaru192 1 year ago
I think the civil right movement and the war against the middle east is much more complicated then that. example not every one that was religious was for slavery rather a good amount were against it (It would have effected the economy of slave owning nations) as for the middle east a lot of them don't want to be martyrs; in many cases they are conditioned,trick, force, or even bought/paid to do so.
kazehikaru192 1 year ago
The Yankee is typical of christian cultist. The abrahamic cults are evil and dangerous. Followers believe in violance in word and in deed towards those that do not follow blindly the dogma of their particular cult Religious history shows clearly shows that. They are taught that some being is always watching them, even their thoughts and dreams, and if they cross the line extreme violance awaits.
max2right 1 year ago
@max2right At their core the abrahamic religions are death cults looking forward to the apocalyptic destruction of the planet as a means of escaping the uncertainty of this life into another life which is perfect. It's insane but, the all believe it and a large portion are eager to get the final battle between good and evil started. Each believes the other is wrong and and only they will be saved into the better life. Evil and dangerous.
max2right 1 year ago
@Yankee81186
if a heaven should exist, you really do expect to go there? Even i monkeygorilladicksuckinfaggotcrackeer of an atheist have better chances there. But who am i to judge, your pityful existence is a lifetime sentence anyway.
Farewell, you even aren't worth to be dizzed you poor little hatespilling wannabetoughnigger ;)
XmarkedSpot 1 year ago
@Yankee81186
I think not, since she is dead for over 8 years now, thanks to a drunken nobrainer pickup-luvin' bastard maniac as you probably are.
Now go and fuck that pet goat of yours again, my dear yankee-boy, probably you'll feel somewhat manlier afterwards.
XmarkedSpot 1 year ago
@Yankee81186
Since when is beating the shit out of s.o. making you better? lol, you're pathetic
XmarkedSpot 1 year ago
The problem with religion isn't even rooted in the issues of truth or logic. It is competition. Only when believers of religions are passive and take no reaction to other religions would most of the problems we have go away. Religion like any form of expression should stand on its own merits and not use aggressive tactics of indoctrination to succeed in popularity.
ccricers 1 year ago
The promise land.
He seen it.
Karskiner 1 year ago
I'm really not trying to be mean, but I think when Martin Luther King Jr.'s speaking he seems like Hitler.
liebeundherzschmerz 1 year ago
Religion:
pro: abolition slavery, civil movement, increased sense of security.
con: degrading to human advancement, unnecessary murder, degrading to human rights, degrading to tolerance, initially increased the length of slavery anyway.
rgj798 1 year ago
Promised land. I hope the land is filled with super sexy girls wanting to pleasure me.
TearsOfWar1 1 year ago
@TearsOfWar1 Well the bible probably says that is a sin so i doubt it.
FinalPhoenix1 1 year ago
4:01 The face and action of WIN.
katey1dog 1 year ago
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The contract entered into with any god of your choosing is very simple and always the same.
You agree that you must one day die to go and be with your god.
That is the pact that is made.
No one said you had to die but your god.
Death is eternity in the Sun, the blazing lake of fire, where all excess energy in this Solar System goes..
This also includes human life force energy released from the body at death.
Therefore it is not wise to follow the religious to god.
truthtrekker 1 year ago
people believe 9/11 was an inside job b/c it is physically impossible for jet fuel to melt steel. it is also physically impossible for fire to pulverize tons of concrete into dust. however, anyone who says "i know 9/11 was an inside job" is crazy.
maskedwalnut 1 year ago
@maskedwalnut Yes! anyone that thinks 911 was an inside job is indeed crazy. What is the basis for your claim that jet fuel cannot melt steel? What is the melting temperature of the steel used? At what temperature does jet fuel burn? Do you have information that the steel actually melted rather than weakening to the point that it could not support the weight? Could the concrete be pulverized by crashing hundreds of feet to the pavement below?
Think
max2right 1 year ago
@maskedwalnut
I don't see why conspiracy theorists use the "jet fuel cannot melt steel" argument. That may be true, but it is totally irrelevant. People act as if steel is a hard, ridged solid, but once it reaches a certain point it just liquefies instantly. Not true. Metals are softened up under high temperatures. This is how blacksmiths bend iron. Once the steel in the towers became hot enough to bend, the structural integrity was lost. No melting involved.
MrFlopz 1 year ago
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anyone who believes in anything is a mental midget and should be hung... That's right I'm saying 85-90% of the world's human population needs to go in order to salvage what is left of our earth... If you disagree you are part of that 85-90% that needs to go.
coochsucker 1 year ago
you seem to assert a positive correlation between alturism and religion, "self-sacrifice mechanism".. when really this type of it is really more about compensatory mechanisms/ evolutionary selection at other levels. is it religion which exploits it, or the apathetic?
KempsGrl 1 year ago
@antonyhamill
KGHGHDGHKDGH! DBVJA! KDDJKBDJ!
TheCambrianBunny 1 year ago
@antonyhamill
who told you about us?...i mean them....i mean.....so. lizard creatures is it? lol
TheCambrianBunny 1 year ago
My advice, use scantron forms for the surveys. I did one once and manually compiling the results nearly killed me.
Prelude610 2 years ago
i agree with you most of the time, but you forgot that 911 was an inside job !
maloya79 2 years ago
No it wasn't, hijackers flew 2 planes into the Twin Towers. Where did you get that it was an inside job?
selaron1000 2 years ago 12
all people who believe that 9/11 was an inside-job are retards.
if i showed you a fake documentary (without telling you it was fake) where i showed that bigfoot planned 9/11 to cover up Godzillas involvement in the Holocaust then you would believe it.
you are that retarded.
pollesnavegaard43 1 year ago
@selaron1000 Dude, watch Loose Change. It lays out the case that 9/11 was either orchestrated or enabled by our government. And is actually supported by shocking amount of evidence... disturbing to be sure, the truth of it is up to debate.
Testifyexe 1 year ago
all people who believe that 9/11 was an inside-job are retards.
if i showed you a fake documentary (without telling you it was fake) where i showed that bigfoot planned 9/11 to cover up Godzillas involvement in the Holocaust then you would believe it.
you are that retarded.
pollesnavegaard43 1 year ago
lol, he's so cute at the end.
sawsee28 2 years ago 2
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I don't think the Yin and Yang have nearly as much to do with the other 3 symbols, but I can understand why you use it; it's a symbol. George Carlin said it well "I leave symbols to the symbol-mined."
TonyBtheEG 2 years ago
@TonyBtheEG Dude the yin-yang symbol is for Taoism, which is a religion.
Legola87 1 year ago
@Legola87 - I understand, hence why I added more to my comment. I'm far from a religious person; don't be silly. :D
TonyBtheEG 1 year ago
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Good video. Trying being an atheist and engaged to what i can only call a christian fanatic....We have hours of fun in arguements. life is never dull....I can only thank dawkins for my ammo in winning just about every argument....As for hitler being an atheist, I think you'll find many a speech to his soldiers using religion, so atheist or not, he used it.
muncherandco 2 years ago
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fascinated by the brilliance of thunderfoots' mind
whitedevil071383 2 years ago
The approach to "why religion" is way to bias. Religion, in all its forms, was originally used to control the masses using fear as the main trigger.
Shantri 2 years ago
IN THE MOUNTAINS !
45axelh 2 years ago
I kinda like this approach. I think it's a fairly non revolutionary idea, I think it's largely accepted, but.. I like the idea of starting from square one to question assumptions in a way.
Frankly religious people should welcome this, it gives them a way out from otherwise concluding that the correlation between social ills and religion suggests that religion causes rather than results from it.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
Personally, I suspect that it's both. I mean it's also hardly revolutionary to suggest that a type of religion that seeks to keep the youth ignorant about sex will end up having higher levels of teen pregnancy, and the numbers support this. Some social ills are fairly easy to demonstrate this way.
At the same time the idea of social stress strengthening religious bonds is also fairly easy for me to accept, even if I don't have any simple casual mechanism like the teen pregnancy thing to cite.
NomadSoul76 2 years ago
Wow, Martin Luther in 9/11 context?
Funkyflorist 2 years ago
@Funkyflorist
you are missing the point of this video
zoltan6561 2 years ago
That differences in religious view harbor blood shed and war?
He made side-by-side comparisons for what caused the actions of Martin Luther King and the Islamic terrorists...
Idiotically he follows the typical western methodology of generalizing multiple diverse sects into one large group.
People that already adhere to his anti-religous viewpoint watch his videos to simply re-affirm their pre-conceptions.
Funkyflorist 2 years ago
@Funkyflorist
can you name any major religion that hasnt been responsbile for some kind of attrocity
....no Buddhism doesnt count they are atheists God damn it!
types10000 2 years ago
Roman Catholics
I know you'll mention many different events, I'll address them as people reply to this post.
Keep in mind that many acts are done in defense of themselves or for the sake of others. (You wouldn't criticize WWII soldiers for taking down the Nazis)
There are many atrocities that have been committed in the name of atheism as well.
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@Funkyflorist
"There are many atrocities that have been committed in the name of atheism as well. " - NAME ONE
types10000 2 years ago
@types10000
U.S.S.R. 1917-87 61,911,000 killed
China (PRC) 1949-87 35,236,000 killed
China (Mao Soviets) 1923-49 3,466,000 killed
Cambodia 1975-79 2,035,000 killed
Each of these regimes focused on power, but they also emphasized a complete removal of religion. In Russia alone, over 140 churches were burned down, why didn't we see a scientific renaissance?
I have not included the atrocities in mexico where they crucified people to telephone poles...
Source: R.J. Rummel
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist
" why didn't we see a scientific renaissance?" - because whilst removal of religion (and institution of psudeo religions in the case of communism) did result from these new social trends, the social trends themselves are what made the systems fail.
ie. do you think communism failed because it removed religion or because communism as a system sucks?
types10000 1 year ago
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I may be thinking of a different kind of Catholicism, but the Pope ordained and blessed the Crusaders for doing God's work. Also, Hitler was a Catholic.
yahwehification 2 years ago
The Crusades were a retaliatory attack against Muslim aggression into Europe and Spain.
If they had not of done that, then the war would have been waged in Europe, forestalling the Renaissance.
As for Hitler, he 'publicly' called himself catholic, but in private he had machinations to destroy the catholic church. He confided this to one of his closest friends, Joseph Goebbels.
Keep in mind Hitler was a liar (Munich Agreement).
Funkyflorist 2 years ago 8
@Funkyflorist The First crusade was not retaliatory. pope urban was convinced by Peter the Hermit to launch a crusade to capture the holy land that had fallen into muslim hands after the seventh or eighth century but it had been taken from the Eastern or Byzantium Roman Empire and it was the Roman Catholic Church that launched the crusades, the of the muslim attacks did not come until the corsairs of the ottoman empire started attacking out of north African ports in the twelfth centuries
MrBrent123t 1 year ago
@MrBrent123t
I will refer you to the Moor's and their military incursions into Spain, initiated in 730, and 750 C.E. (Christian Era). By 790 CE they controlled most of Spain.
If we take notice of the dates, these attacks preceded the crusades you mentioned. There is also the omission of abuse of Christian and Jewish pilgrims in and around Jerusalem that further seeded unrest.
We might as well criticize the Navy for shooting Somalian Pirates.
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist So i get from this that europe only engages of defensive wars while Islam engages in offensive wars ??? If you want to know what was forestalling the Renaissance i will tell you that it was the dark ages and the church and one of the biggest events that brought about the renaissance was Islamic knowledge.
drgoodvibesxxx 1 year ago
Not all of them, and they actually have committed their own atroities. Look up "The Urban Myth: There are no Buddhist atrocities."
Argonnosi 2 years ago
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I re-iterate:
Man has free will to create disorder or peace. Religion cannot be blammed for the evil actions of man. Man can however be blamed for manipulating religion to support their struggles for power, justice, authority etc.
This manipulation is found even at the heart of some holy books which have been distorted out of their original form and taken out of context- again to aid man in his unholy tendencies.
Summerbkh 2 years ago
This is awesome. took a break from youtube and
when I come back, there's like 5 thunderfoot videos to watch! ^_^
agent0sephiroth 2 years ago
Unfortunately it came to this:
Religious fanatics (who try to limit or enforce their bondage against everyone else)
VS
Logic and Facts (which are just medium for people to better understand their world)
beyonginfinity 2 years ago
@beyonginfinity
Then we have a major contradiction that combines 'Religious Fanatics' and 'Logic and Facts'. They are called the Jesuits. This order of monks is responsible for countless achievements that brought about Modern Science in Europe*. Including; Medical research of circulatory systems, research of heredity and plants, research in metallurgy, research of agriculture, mathematics, astronomy, physics, optics.
*How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization, pg. 100
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist are you serious? O_o. I do not deny that "Jesuits" as INDIVIDUALS did contribute to development, HOWEVER, AS A MAJORITY the religion hindered scientific development mainly because any of researchers that contradicted G*D got killed/punished or labeled as heretic; Unlike Law or Science religion is more susceptible and WAS used as political tool. Fortunately separation of state and religion ended that, leading to modern society , atlest TRY to understand the reason for that, hmmm
beyonginfinity 1 year ago
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@beyonginfinity
Do you have any Citations or References for that claim?
Would you like to take a tour of Stalinist Russia and its 'advancement' without religion? They MUST have advanced because they burned down over 142 churches...
Even if we take EVERY death caused by religion, it only amounts to about 7% of all deaths in human history... The VAST MAJORITY of death and carnage is caused by NON-religious motivations.
tinyurl , com/y2m5kp4
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
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ERRATA: I misquoted, the source says 3%, not 7%.
"What percentage of these killings were due to religious democide? It is less than 3% of the totals."
Now you may question the source for these numbers, but when you learn it is a Nobel Prize Finalist (R.J. Rummel) his research is peer-reviewed and open for scrutiny.
tinyurl , com/y9e9c76
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist -_-, wow, what an avid replier. If you are backing your argument on RELIGION then why are you referencing Nobel Prize Finalist (R.J. Rummel), he have accomplished that not due to "GOD" but because he understood scientific method. Also, sure there are atrocities that were done in history by non religious,
beyonginfinity 1 year ago
@beyonginfinity
What is your argument?
You asserted that religion is responsible for death and stagnation. I cited two sources that show that religious motivations are not the main cause for death and stagnation. I further asserted that (in contrast) Russia's experiment with enforced atheism was QUITE destructive.
You used an ad hominen;
Person A asserts case C.
Person B says case C was 'accomplished' because of the scientific method.
Therefore case C is false?
Your argument makes no sense.
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist
"You asserted that religion is responsible for death and stagnation" - that's not an assertion, that's a fact as demonstrated by the crusades, the inquisitions and September 11.
"Russia's experiment with enforced atheism was QUITE destructive" - russias atheism? oh please do tell how Russias atheism was any more responsible than mustaches because religion is directly responsible for the events we are talking about :)
types10000 1 year ago
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@types10000
If you assert that religion is responsible for 9/11 or the spanish inquisition (which the church was actually opposed to and punished spain for carrying it out)
Then it is easy to blame atheism for burning down over 140 churces and killing over 60 million people.
Religious motivations account for less than 3% of deaths in all of human history.
tinyurl , com/y2m5kp4
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@Funkyflorist -_-, I think you should put this great ability to debate you demonstrated in you arguments into contributing to development of our society, for example; program for children in distress, etc. other vice there is no benefit to anyone, including yourself from your "argument", am I right?. its obvious, people get tired of this, and after few rounds they see that you just miss the very basic point of this video, now that makes sense, does it not?
/watch?v=0BpmeX6lwZc
beyonginfinity 1 year ago
@beyonginfinity
Logical fallacy.
Person A makes case C
Person B says person A should focus efforts elsewhere
Therefore case C is false...
As for other attacks against Catholics (shock) very few people know the whole details, particularly with Galileo. (Read: The Sleepwalkers, by Arthur Koestler)
I bet Tfoot forgot to mention that Galileo asserted that the TIDES were evidence and were due to earth's motion...
Funkyflorist 1 year ago
@raz357 I have answered your question, you just don't accept the answer. Not accepting an answer does not equate to ignored.
What's the purpose of the attacks? And don't deny it, anyone that will take a moment to read your last three post will see it plain as day.
neoverse 2 years ago 2
@raz357 Well, the simple fact that you cannot summon up one ounce of evidence for anything you say with reference to long periods of time which is indoctrination into evolution theory. I thank you for your time and hope that you will discover that you have been lied to during yoru entire education.
neoverse 2 years ago 4
"I see no reason for the social taboo of not examining religion"
Thunderf00t, you are spot on (as you obviously know). I'm in High School and we had to do a book presentation in front of our English class and I chose "The End of Faith" which I'm sure we're all familiar with. My classmates were all stunned when I shared Harris' view of pushing the blame on religious moderates, but in the end I got a big applause for it. Thanks for inspiring me with the courage to speak out.
JackHDiamond 2 years ago
@raz357 Apparently you can't seem to grasp that if not for the belief in evolution you would dismiss any notion of 40,000 years. Every aspect of history being taught in school is tainted by evolution theory. Who was there 40,000 years ago to observe anything thing you are saying? And please don't recite something about ancient text because if some other text is suppose to be valid then mine will automatically be equally valid.
neoverse 2 years ago 2
@raz357 "How does that negate my argument?" Your own words in the post that I initially responded to. "Stripped to the bare bones, religion is tribalism." What is your definition of tribalism? Are you saying men were living in tribes during the time of the Romans, the Greeks, the Babylonians, etcs?
What era of time are you referring to as the time when religion arose? When I think of the the time when the civilizations were around I don't think of tribes I think of barbaric conquests.
neoverse 2 years ago
If you would stop and think for a second, you would realize that everything you believe is based on the assumption that evolution is true.
And excuse me if I don't accept a full fledged atheist's opinion for anything, especially one that entertains the idea that we could have been seeded here by aliens.
neoverse 2 years ago
@raz357 So are you claiming this is anything other than your own personal opinion?
neoverse 2 years ago
@raz357 What references do you have for this statement?
neoverse 2 years ago
The major religions' founders are of interest as it is these prophets' actions which are to be analysed to get the essence of what their respective religions are supposed to inculcate. Deviations away from the founding principles should be jugded as such.
Summerbkh 2 years ago
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neoverse 2 years ago
Man has free will to create disorder or peace. Religion cannot be blammed for the evil actions of man. Man can however be blamed for manipulating religion to support their struggles for power, justice, authority etc.
This manipulation is found even at the heart of some holy books which have been distorted out of their original form and taken out of context- again to aid man in his unholy tendencies.
Summerbkh 2 years ago 2
He sounds a little bit like Hitler. Not what he says, but how he talks of course.
elTMorales 2 years ago
Hey Thunderfoot... What about Terror Management Theory? What about people having increased nationalistic pride when reminded of their own mortality?
spectrophotography 2 years ago
i hear so many christians say what a nemesis islam is to the world. if only they could realize that they're sitting on a half truth and need to take it one step further to see that it is religion as a hole that is a detriment to society
13b1cdw8g 2 years ago
@13b1cdw8g
Ultimately, superstition is the problem; religion is a subset of that. Education is necessary to get rid of all forms of superstition. The problem is, the less educated people are, the more superstitious and religious. Religion encourages ignorance and superstition. Many uneducated people do need religion to stop them from killing; the solution would be to educate them but the religion used to placate them prevents most education. It is truly a vicious cycle that is hard to break.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
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religion is a drug for brain dead people
FlawedUniverse 2 years ago
Frustrating that you did not give an option for how strong peoples' belief in the existence of god was.
ARM02 2 years ago
if you look at society from the beginning it has always been classicism that destroys all nations... between rich and poor. the questions are who has what resources... who is willing to sacrifice... for the better of their society... all in a circus of donkeys while all the Pinocchio's lead the tools, slaves, better yet citizens... most will stand under and few will stand up.
xWiggEEboarDx 2 years ago
"I seen the promised land"
Great english, "Dr". King
Surathan 2 years ago
He says I've, not I.
BTW you are a raceist
ImperiousViking 2 years ago
No, Viking, I'm a bigot you fucking stupid cunt
Surathan 2 years ago
that comment was just mean...
:'(
ImperiousViking 2 years ago
@Surathan actually its his southern dialect like in some places in the UK people say "yous" for you all. Just dialect I cant see him having the same effect if he spoke in recieved pronunciation.
seonidh 2 years ago
lol u nutter : )
NathBonn 2 years ago
Religion was not the only key factor that caused the hijackers to fly the planes into the Twin Towers. Much of it is political.
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