Whoever made money on this card, either bet on a few underdogs, OR, was going for the "long shot underdog" bet. I find it hard to believe many people came away on top. Worst picks night for me since I took over the channel.
6-6. WOW! Never before!
Recap video coming tomorrow morning.
PS. Serves Hardy right. Lytle went in there with the ability to takedown and submit in seconds and didn't. But HARDY, goes for some late round takedowns? WTF? GTFO.
the way Melvin has won lately, i think Dana definetly wants to give the fight to him. But since Maynard/Edgar are fighting in october maybe Miller vs. Guillard would be good for a Co Main Event sometime in November or December
Hey man, thanks for doing these vids I always watch before i throw money down. Do you still train at TorontoBJJ? I remember you when Dida was instructing.
MMA analyst what's your take on this whole situation with Golden Glory and Zuffa. A video on this would be much appreciated. Dana White gave us a bullshit story saying that GG wanted their fighters cheques made out to GG but Marloes Coenen tweeted a picture of her cheque made out to her from Zuffa. Most websites and publications are paying lip service seeing as this is Zuffa/UFC but we need an objective view on this one.
@doliveij btw i think the latest josh gross podcast has a decent discussion on that issue which you might find interesting. He seems one of the few 'mainstream' mma journo's who isn't up Zuffa's rectum & can kind of say it like it is. Sad really
@azniamah But GG did want that, she tweeted the picture because the UFC didn't give them what they want because the UFC is supposed to pay the fighters and then the fighters pay their trainers not vice versa.
@pieralnett she tweeted the picture of her cheque to prove that Dana was lying. When asked by Ariel Helwani why Zuffa had a problem with GG, Dana said it was to do with a payment policy GG had for their fighters which has been proven to be false. There's no denying that Dana has done a lot for MMA but at the same time he can't throw a tantrum when things don't go his way.
I am looking for a most confident pick to put into bunch of parlays with other picks. I feel like Benavidez at - 240 is the best value out of all favorites and odds are much better than on lets say Cole who tends to get punched hard in the face sometimes. Do you think I should go with Benavidez or are there any other solid favorites on this card ?
@Ingleburt Lol yea but I think Lytle can do subs non like Johnson and CAN COMPLETE THEM NON LIKE GSP! :) SORRY GSP FANS BUT THAT WAS EMBARRASSING!!!!!!
Lytle will destroy Dan "The Cocky" Hardy and send his ass back to the U.K. HARDY IS NOT CLOSE TO BEING AS GOOD AS PEOPLE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE. If Lytle just fights smart and doesnt just stand there swinging he will personally pack Dans bags and finally get him out of the UFC.
I disagree with Hardy CAN'T take him down, it's more a case of he WONT try to take him down, there is a difference.
If he did threaten a takedown it puts a doubt in the other guys mind as to what's coming and allows you more time to set up strikes.
I don't think were going to see anything new from Hardy and I have a feeling Lytle is going to be in the same mindset that Anthony Johnson was when he fought Hardy, win at all costs and give Hardy his GTFO papers.
"wasn't is rory mcdonald who just beat pyle ???" yes rory mcdonald just beat mike pyle, what does that have anything to do with brian eborsole beating chris lytle ?
I love ur respect my man but i completely dissagree wit hendo/miller and olivera/cerrone. miller/hendo will b excitin very hard for that fight to b borin. hendo should get the fight to the ground where i believe he will have a little advantage n miller should keep it standin where he will have a little advantage. N cerrone is def more well rounded n i think better than olivera, what olivera has on cerrone is a slight accuracy advantage and he comes out the gate faster.
Great video as usual though I completely disagree with you on the Cerrone fight. I think the complete opposite that Cerrone is better everywhere. Charles Oliveria though having great potential is only a purple belt in juijitsu while Donald has been a black belt for quite sometime. As well as Cerrone being a better kick boxer in my opinion.
@HoneyIEducatedTheWeb I have to say, I don't think it's going to be an ass whooping of any sort. I think the fights going to be super competitive but we all know that Cerrone has a tendency to start slow but if he comes out storming out of the gate. This is going to be an awesome fight!
great picks. other youtube predictions let there love or like of a fighter fog there picks. you my friend are stone cold when it comes to predictions. and I like that! keep up the good work
jim miller vs Guillard would be awesome I want to see that fight and who ever wins that should get a title shot and That means that Melvin will be the next champ if he keeps his head str8
@MastaKneeGrow323 I think Jim Miller is awesome but Melvin with his head on str8 can beat anyone... I have always thought that when Melvins technique catches up to his natural athleticism he would be the best in the world.... he has GSP athleticism and actual knockout power unlike GSP... Melvin just needs to live a clean lifestyle and stay with the Jackson camp and he will be champ someday
@tmxman23 True I dont think edgar will be champ much longer theirs 4 or 5 guys in the UFC i would actually pick against him (Maynard, Gulliard, Miller, Henderson, Pettis)
@MastaKneeGrow323 Edgar is just too damn small... even today I still dont see him as a champion.. maybe thats my issue but the guy just doesnt impress me at all.... maybe its the way he looks.... I dont know I cant quite put my finger on it
@tmxman23 He dosnt have any impressive dominating wins thats all, jon Jones had dominated people and got a title shot and finished shogun he TOOK the belt edgar beat BJ the first time by a questionable decision
@MastaKneeGrow323 yeah.. most of his wins are by decision.. thats probably it.. i am getting tired of GSP, Edgar, Jon Fitch types of wins.... I like Anderson Silva and Jon Jones... guys that can end a fight
@Starjet4 agreed everyone he has looked good against on the feet are bum strikers thats why he has looked good, cerrone on the other hand has actually faced some pretty good strikers and beaten them, oliveira is definitely more agressive but imo cerrone has better striking.
@mbauer08 Yea Efrain is the best guy Oliveira has beat and I was never impressed with Efrains striking(technically speaking) My only concern is that Oliveira gets rounds because he is more aggressive and throws more. Cerrone needs to put the pressure on
@Starjet4 ya cerrone is one of my favorite fighters but he starts slow and sometimes seems reluctant to throw, but i think when someone comes at him aggressively like oliveira will he will throw down.
Miller vs Henderson should be main event, Just saying. I get the politics and what not but daaaaamn man! Any semi intelligent mma fan knows Miller is 1 win away and Henderson including this fight is 2 legit performances and a number one contender fight away from a title shot. I love that match up so much. Hardy vs Lytle is a fan pleaser, Miller vs Henderson is the MMA Fan pleaser
And once again ... video turned from MMA Analyst to MMA Betting. I hope u'll be back doing vids the way you were doing them a couple of months back, until then I'm unsubscribing.Cheers!
hey karsten dont you think Benavidez vs Wineland should be on the main card? there is on 4 fights on the main card i figure they will play one of the good undercard fights
@spaniardmale77 Actually Ddoliveij overlooked it, it's Diamond > Plat > Gold > Silver > Do Not bet. Note Silver was added on recently, Silver is for good picks but with really bad lines, or "ok" picks, but has a good line odds in return.
im a noob on the paying stuff so.... are u saying the people getting knocked out and submitted by those submision/knockout of the night get that pay too???
Because it's free and against Chris "Fight Bonus" Lytle, that's why. You must be relatively new to mma considering most of the cards that are supposed to be "boring" often turn out to be quite exciting.
@Schatje79 Exactly. People were complaining about 133 saying how boring the fights and main event would be. Look what happened. I just mentioned that one because its most recent. Hardy and lytle come to fight.
Yeah, I don't get it. The card is fucking free and people still moan like it's nothing. Meanwhile, you got Lytle, Hardy, Cerrone, Oliveira, Miller, Henderson, Benavidez, Wineland, etc. Pretty damn sweet for not having to pay a cent.
@Schatje79 I'm not new to MMA I've actually been watching for the last 5 years or so. I didn't say this fight would be boring either, it might turn out to be great, as with any fight. My point is that Dan Hardy had his time, he was main evented or co main evented his last three fights, all losses. Its time to push other deserving fighters. I think Jim Miller and Ben Henderson should be the main event. Two up and comming fighters who have been more sucessful lately.
I didn't say that either. You said the card will be boring with no basis for it. As for Hardy, he's still a name coupled with Lytle being a fight-bonus magnet. You don't put your bigger names on a free card most of the time. Meanwhile, Hardy's name still carries significant weight and so does Lytle's. It's a cheaper and more effective way to headline a card and make money. Jim Miller isn't nearly as exciting and Henderson has only one fight under the UFC. Not to mention they're lw's.
hi dude how much do you ber per fight?
AdeleVEVVO 6 months ago
why do you always pick against ben henderson... ben hendo is the fukn man...
pureplayapimpin 6 months ago
Fights on the main card were great, also R.I.P shawn tompkins who passed away on sunday.
mbauer08 6 months ago
are you workin for the bookies or what?
yourmajesty07 6 months ago
@yourmajesty07 loool whyy ?
DjMik101 6 months ago
Yeah man, getting killed tonight =/, but then again, so are the majorty of the betters based on the lines... one more fight left, common Lytle !!
Krakilin0405 6 months ago
@Krakilin0405
Whoever made money on this card, either bet on a few underdogs, OR, was going for the "long shot underdog" bet. I find it hard to believe many people came away on top. Worst picks night for me since I took over the channel.
6-6. WOW! Never before!
Recap video coming tomorrow morning.
PS. Serves Hardy right. Lytle went in there with the ability to takedown and submit in seconds and didn't. But HARDY, goes for some late round takedowns? WTF? GTFO.
Congrats Lytle.
doliveij 6 months ago
@doliveij
I got the money. It was pretty easy.
sephirothfemto 6 months ago
dude, you bet picks let me down big time tonight. just sayin
chriser555 6 months ago
@chriser555 yeah i lost money tooo !
DjMik101 6 months ago
I dnt think hardy has got more power than lytle but I hope he wins War Outlaw
Joonagoona 6 months ago
EVERYONE BETTING ON LYTLE, JUSST SOME INFO U SHOULD KNOW HE IS RETIRING AFTER THE FIGHT... THATS WHY HE SAID HE IS STANDING THE WHOLE FIGHT
DML960 6 months ago
wow, on my website cole miller is -588
DML960 6 months ago
The way Herman looked 2 months ago i cant bet against him, he'll take the fight
DML960 6 months ago
the way Melvin has won lately, i think Dana definetly wants to give the fight to him. But since Maynard/Edgar are fighting in october maybe Miller vs. Guillard would be good for a Co Main Event sometime in November or December
DML960 6 months ago
@DML960 but you forgot about guida now dana has 2 fit him in somewhere unless dana jon fitch him
rhyno514 6 months ago
Hey man, thanks for doing these vids I always watch before i throw money down. Do you still train at TorontoBJJ? I remember you when Dida was instructing.
xCanuckfan16x 6 months ago
Duane Ludwig will KO Amir.
MrKyleBJJ 6 months ago
At your site, you put santiago vs philipfisdofisdf. It's suppose to be Rivera. Btw, when is your next battle coming to youtube?
Swiifty 6 months ago
I think Cerrone will be too big for Charles.
stepeasy420 6 months ago
MMA analyst what's your take on this whole situation with Golden Glory and Zuffa. A video on this would be much appreciated. Dana White gave us a bullshit story saying that GG wanted their fighters cheques made out to GG but Marloes Coenen tweeted a picture of her cheque made out to her from Zuffa. Most websites and publications are paying lip service seeing as this is Zuffa/UFC but we need an objective view on this one.
azniamah 6 months ago 2
@azniamah
I actually made a video a few days ago and didn't post it because I thought it was weak. I'll probably do another today or very soon.
doliveij 6 months ago
@doliveij thanks that would be brilliant
azniamah 6 months ago
@doliveij btw i think the latest josh gross podcast has a decent discussion on that issue which you might find interesting. He seems one of the few 'mainstream' mma journo's who isn't up Zuffa's rectum & can kind of say it like it is. Sad really
keep up the great work bro
bahriboy 6 months ago 4
@azniamah But GG did want that, she tweeted the picture because the UFC didn't give them what they want because the UFC is supposed to pay the fighters and then the fighters pay their trainers not vice versa.
pieralnett 6 months ago
@pieralnett she tweeted the picture of her cheque to prove that Dana was lying. When asked by Ariel Helwani why Zuffa had a problem with GG, Dana said it was to do with a payment policy GG had for their fighters which has been proven to be false. There's no denying that Dana has done a lot for MMA but at the same time he can't throw a tantrum when things don't go his way.
azniamah 6 months ago
@azniamah He said GG wanted to do that but reluctantly agreed to have their fighters paid. Marloes posting that picture is meaningless.
acknowledge101 6 months ago
Hardy is getting KTFO.
RealTenryuken 6 months ago
I am looking for a most confident pick to put into bunch of parlays with other picks. I feel like Benavidez at - 240 is the best value out of all favorites and odds are much better than on lets say Cole who tends to get punched hard in the face sometimes. Do you think I should go with Benavidez or are there any other solid favorites on this card ?
KnockoutHighlight 6 months ago
@KnockoutHighlight
Benavidez is good at -240. You could parlay him with Vemola. OR... for better odds one of the top 3 fights on the card.
doliveij 6 months ago
Hey Karsten was there anything interesting on the other side of the window today? Anyone taking a walk with their kids?
TutKatan 6 months ago
@TutKatan
There's always something interesting on the other side of the window.
doliveij 6 months ago 4
@Ingleburt Lol yea but I think Lytle can do subs non like Johnson and CAN COMPLETE THEM NON LIKE GSP! :) SORRY GSP FANS BUT THAT WAS EMBARRASSING!!!!!!
MmaItsImportant 6 months ago
Lytle will destroy Dan "The Cocky" Hardy and send his ass back to the U.K. HARDY IS NOT CLOSE TO BEING AS GOOD AS PEOPLE MAKE HIM OUT TO BE. If Lytle just fights smart and doesnt just stand there swinging he will personally pack Dans bags and finally get him out of the UFC.
MmaItsImportant 6 months ago
@MmaItsImportant Either that or wrestle him to death like some gay keschek. BORING!!!!!
Ingleburt 6 months ago
i just wanted to make this point:
Goodstandup vs Knockoutartist >>>(scarier)>>> good jujitsuguy vs submissionspecialist
bizonmaciej 6 months ago
you didnt say nothing about that, hes still got noodle arms though
bizonmaciej 6 months ago
if cerrone could stuff c4 varner for 5 rounds, what makes you think oliveira can take him down with those noodle arms
bizonmaciej 6 months ago
@bizonmaciej
I mentioned Cerrone taking Oliveira down and ending up in his guard, but nowhere did I say Oliveira would go for takedowns.
doliveij 6 months ago
Just a question: there is a (D) next to Vermola and a (G) next to Marks. That's just a typo, right? lol
Thanks for the vid!
Charlyperro 6 months ago
I disagree with Hardy CAN'T take him down, it's more a case of he WONT try to take him down, there is a difference.
If he did threaten a takedown it puts a doubt in the other guys mind as to what's coming and allows you more time to set up strikes.
I don't think were going to see anything new from Hardy and I have a feeling Lytle is going to be in the same mindset that Anthony Johnson was when he fought Hardy, win at all costs and give Hardy his GTFO papers.
kizzyfur 6 months ago
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What's all this talk about lytle losing to ebersole?? wasn't is rory mcdonald who just beat pyle???
shredrik 6 months ago
whats all this talk about lytle losing to ebersole wasn't is rory mcdonald who just beat pyle???
shredrik 6 months ago
@shredrik
Ebersole defeated Chris Lytle at UFC 127. If that doesn't answer your question, I'm not sure what the question is.
doliveij 6 months ago
@shredrik
"wasn't is rory mcdonald who just beat pyle ???" yes rory mcdonald just beat mike pyle, what does that have anything to do with brian eborsole beating chris lytle ?
NightManiacsInc 6 months ago
N as much as i like lytle n want him to win this is a harder fight for him than pple think
GodsMafiiaMan 6 months ago
I love ur respect my man but i completely dissagree wit hendo/miller and olivera/cerrone. miller/hendo will b excitin very hard for that fight to b borin. hendo should get the fight to the ground where i believe he will have a little advantage n miller should keep it standin where he will have a little advantage. N cerrone is def more well rounded n i think better than olivera, what olivera has on cerrone is a slight accuracy advantage and he comes out the gate faster.
GodsMafiiaMan 6 months ago
Cowboy is taking this man, dont underestimate the power of a man who lives on a ranch.
LordCoSaX 6 months ago
since olliveira faught escudero, i always thought that olliveira could have dropped to featherweight!
SMThePhenom 6 months ago
Great video as usual though I completely disagree with you on the Cerrone fight. I think the complete opposite that Cerrone is better everywhere. Charles Oliveria though having great potential is only a purple belt in juijitsu while Donald has been a black belt for quite sometime. As well as Cerrone being a better kick boxer in my opinion.
candian75 6 months ago
@candian75
I agree with you. Cerrone should whoop him.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 6 months ago
@HoneyIEducatedTheWeb I have to say, I don't think it's going to be an ass whooping of any sort. I think the fights going to be super competitive but we all know that Cerrone has a tendency to start slow but if he comes out storming out of the gate. This is going to be an awesome fight!
candian75 6 months ago
@candian75
I should seriously start betting money. My picks kick ass.
HoneyIEducatedTheWeb 6 months ago
@doliveij
great picks. other youtube predictions let there love or like of a fighter fog there picks. you my friend are stone cold when it comes to predictions. and I like that! keep up the good work
9898zzz 6 months ago
If Jim Miller beat DAN henderson like you said lol it would be pretty crazy
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
Theres alot of dont bet in my books in my opinion on this card well 3 on the main card maybe 2 ill put some down on cerrone
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
Why does everyone think Hardy is some kind of knockout artist? He has 1 KO win in his 7 UFC fights.
jontru 6 months ago
you on the oliveira hype train, cerrone is going to tee off on him
cryingtooth 6 months ago
Karsten.. you comment on who people should bet on but do you personally actually make bets on fights
tmxman23 6 months ago
jim miller vs Guillard would be awesome I want to see that fight and who ever wins that should get a title shot and That means that Melvin will be the next champ if he keeps his head str8
tmxman23 6 months ago
@tmxman23 eh never count out jim miller but i think Guillard would win
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
@MastaKneeGrow323 I think Jim Miller is awesome but Melvin with his head on str8 can beat anyone... I have always thought that when Melvins technique catches up to his natural athleticism he would be the best in the world.... he has GSP athleticism and actual knockout power unlike GSP... Melvin just needs to live a clean lifestyle and stay with the Jackson camp and he will be champ someday
tmxman23 6 months ago
@tmxman23 True I dont think edgar will be champ much longer theirs 4 or 5 guys in the UFC i would actually pick against him (Maynard, Gulliard, Miller, Henderson, Pettis)
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
@MastaKneeGrow323 Edgar is just too damn small... even today I still dont see him as a champion.. maybe thats my issue but the guy just doesnt impress me at all.... maybe its the way he looks.... I dont know I cant quite put my finger on it
tmxman23 6 months ago
@tmxman23 He dosnt have any impressive dominating wins thats all, jon Jones had dominated people and got a title shot and finished shogun he TOOK the belt edgar beat BJ the first time by a questionable decision
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
@MastaKneeGrow323 yeah.. most of his wins are by decision.. thats probably it.. i am getting tired of GSP, Edgar, Jon Fitch types of wins.... I like Anderson Silva and Jon Jones... guys that can end a fight
tmxman23 6 months ago
@tmxman23 You and everybody else lmao
MastaKneeGrow323 6 months ago
I dont think Oliveira is better at stand up
Starjet4 6 months ago
@Starjet4 agreed everyone he has looked good against on the feet are bum strikers thats why he has looked good, cerrone on the other hand has actually faced some pretty good strikers and beaten them, oliveira is definitely more agressive but imo cerrone has better striking.
mbauer08 6 months ago
@mbauer08 Yea Efrain is the best guy Oliveira has beat and I was never impressed with Efrains striking(technically speaking) My only concern is that Oliveira gets rounds because he is more aggressive and throws more. Cerrone needs to put the pressure on
Starjet4 6 months ago
@Starjet4 ya cerrone is one of my favorite fighters but he starts slow and sometimes seems reluctant to throw, but i think when someone comes at him aggressively like oliveira will he will throw down.
mbauer08 6 months ago
@mbauer08 We called it
Starjet4 6 months ago
@Starjet4 hell ya we did! there goes the oliveira hype train.
mbauer08 6 months ago
Miller vs Henderson should be main event, Just saying. I get the politics and what not but daaaaamn man! Any semi intelligent mma fan knows Miller is 1 win away and Henderson including this fight is 2 legit performances and a number one contender fight away from a title shot. I love that match up so much. Hardy vs Lytle is a fan pleaser, Miller vs Henderson is the MMA Fan pleaser
ImAidaTv 6 months ago
Might be just me, but this card looks really good.
xkillaz18x 6 months ago
BOO DOO DOO DOOOOM
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BOO DOO DOO DOOOOM
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BOO ROO DOOO
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BOO ROO DOOOOO
Antix 6 months ago
So you only went with favourites? No upsets?
And once again ... video turned from MMA Analyst to MMA Betting. I hope u'll be back doing vids the way you were doing them a couple of months back, until then I'm unsubscribing.Cheers!
RiskTaker2oo8 6 months ago
@RiskTaker2oo8 How will you know if you unsub? Or if you're still gonna pay attention to his videos whats the point in unsubbing? Just wondering.
Carnius797 6 months ago
@Carnius797 LOL
spaniardmale77 6 months ago
@RiskTaker2oo8 LOL. The videos are the exact same except he'll throw in "and this is going to be a platinum pick" etc. at the end. Cmon dude
felixdamajiccat 6 months ago
@felixdamajiccat
Was gonna say the same thing lol I don't understand how adding in who to bet on really changes things. Makes my brain fart.
Schatje79 6 months ago
I really want hardy for the W
comiclander 6 months ago
I'm strong on Hardy winning
Sloppyslapfart 6 months ago
@doliveij Shouldn't it be Diamond, Platinum, Gold, Silver, Do Not Bet?
gorfimus 6 months ago 2
hey karsten dont you think Benavidez vs Wineland should be on the main card? there is on 4 fights on the main card i figure they will play one of the good undercard fights
ilef48 6 months ago
@ilef48
The entire undercard will be live on Facebook. I believe. But yeah, if there is room, they will fill in time with fights from the prelims.
doliveij 6 months ago
miller henderson technically should be main event
GinGeeK 6 months ago
title fail?
GinGeeK 6 months ago
Just to be clear ur ranking is:
Diamond, Platinum, Silver, Gold, Do not bet?
spaniardmale77 6 months ago
@spaniardmale77 Actually Ddoliveij overlooked it, it's Diamond > Plat > Gold > Silver > Do Not bet. Note Silver was added on recently, Silver is for good picks but with really bad lines, or "ok" picks, but has a good line odds in return.
Krakilin0405 6 months ago
@Krakilin0405
Thank you!
doliveij 6 months ago
@Krakilin0405 Got it 100% now. I process better visually like that.
spaniardmale77 6 months ago
The title says ufc 133 but its really UFC live
RamboBabyJesus 6 months ago
lol at the Olivera 2.0 story hehe, n great card! (well, i like it)
RudyVII7 6 months ago
im a noob on the paying stuff so.... are u saying the people getting knocked out and submitted by those submision/knockout of the night get that pay too???
RudyVII7 6 months ago
@RudyVII7 No they do not.
Carnius797 6 months ago
@Carnius797 ohhh ok thanks 4 clearing that up, i was gonne say sign me up lol jkjk
RudyVII7 6 months ago
Those beats rock my house whenever i press play on your vids.
Love your work Karsten!
joefarries 6 months ago
How do ya know fighting card is going to be boring before it's ever happen yet?!
iHIM911 6 months ago
@iHIM911 Exactly. Thank you.
Carnius797 6 months ago
HOW IS HARDY/LYTLE THE MAIN EVENT OVER MILLER/BENSON
themmavoice1988 6 months ago
agree with 100 bulletz logo suggestion TLOW
xRSECxILLUMINATIx 6 months ago
You should change your logo to 100bulletz to make it seem consistent, sick beats though
carnin 6 months ago
I think the winner of henderson and miller will be fighting clay guida or the winner of the anthony pettis fight in october
Newton240sx 6 months ago
first!! This is going to be a boring card. How does Dan Hardy get another main event, he's lost 3 straight!!!
PAC3HTK 6 months ago
@PAC3HTK How people say a card is boring before it even happens is beyond me.
Carnius797 6 months ago
@PAC3HTK
Because it's free and against Chris "Fight Bonus" Lytle, that's why. You must be relatively new to mma considering most of the cards that are supposed to be "boring" often turn out to be quite exciting.
Schatje79 6 months ago
@Schatje79 Exactly. People were complaining about 133 saying how boring the fights and main event would be. Look what happened. I just mentioned that one because its most recent. Hardy and lytle come to fight.
Carnius797 6 months ago
@Carnius797
Yeah, I don't get it. The card is fucking free and people still moan like it's nothing. Meanwhile, you got Lytle, Hardy, Cerrone, Oliveira, Miller, Henderson, Benavidez, Wineland, etc. Pretty damn sweet for not having to pay a cent.
Schatje79 6 months ago
@Schatje79 I'm not new to MMA I've actually been watching for the last 5 years or so. I didn't say this fight would be boring either, it might turn out to be great, as with any fight. My point is that Dan Hardy had his time, he was main evented or co main evented his last three fights, all losses. Its time to push other deserving fighters. I think Jim Miller and Ben Henderson should be the main event. Two up and comming fighters who have been more sucessful lately.
PAC3HTK 6 months ago
@PAC3HTK Your exact words: "This is going to be a boring card"
Carnius797 6 months ago
@PAC3HTK
I didn't say that either. You said the card will be boring with no basis for it. As for Hardy, he's still a name coupled with Lytle being a fight-bonus magnet. You don't put your bigger names on a free card most of the time. Meanwhile, Hardy's name still carries significant weight and so does Lytle's. It's a cheaper and more effective way to headline a card and make money. Jim Miller isn't nearly as exciting and Henderson has only one fight under the UFC. Not to mention they're lw's.
Schatje79 6 months ago