Avalon MSL Ro32 F Set 3: Winners Game (P3/3)

[Smaschge]

freakin mines. Crackmines.

[Ecrilon]

Fantasy, talking to OOV with hand motions at the end starting at 10:41: First I smacked him in the face with vultures, then he got up so I smacked him in the face again.

[kakao777]

great game. hope it ends up with movie n leta in final game of this set with movie taking the win. He got some slopy decision making n microing but its in the mix with some great of it to! i just hate seeing arbiters gewtting killd by single turrets tho. to many pro gamers seams to have that prob

[MrCosteffective]

i have way too much respect for movie's skilled...Fantasy did awesome too, how could he not? he won the game right?

[Ytlander]

One of the best games in a long time and one of the best commentaries by you Cholera in a long time, good work!

[wpelfeta]

Very good game. A lesser Terran would have lost to Movie.

[Baconaisethe3rd]

Wow, insane vulture drop + micro, beats DT rush + macro gg terran

[donnk]

lolol vulture driven by hyuk's cousin

i was laughing so hard

[Zraknul]

Attacking 2 vessels with an archon is so brilliant. Worth it at that point in the game.

[RaiKageRyu]

Movie made this game a great movie in itself.

[PerezLive]

that was a good game, and man............ is the level of starcraft ever so high.

[carpediemgrc]

wonderful exciting game, really funny in the end! thanks cholera

[funnybananaman94]

wow movie really impressed me. he's doing quite well in the GROUP OF DEATH. i would love to see a rematch between him and jaedong in the final match.

also, WHO THOUGHT LETA WOULD BEAT OUT FANTASY??

I TOLD YOU SOOOOO!!

gg

[Nintendoholic07]

WHO BUILDS AN ARCHON AGAINST TWO(!) SCIENCE VESSELS!!!!

but, oh MAN that was a GOOD, no fraking AWESOME game!!! SNAP that was amazing!!!

[Danceofmasks]

Uhh, Movie had like no minerals ... archon was probably the only thing he could afford.

(Woulda been much better if he had storm researched, tho)

[Teczer0]

Maaaaaaaaaaan I really wish Movie won. LOL his play made stuff really fun and exciting to watch. Hopefully he can play a little better later.

[DiziCone]

those FUCKING vessels

[goa103]

Sure but Movie is a funny guy because at the end he decided to build the worst unit ever when there're SVs around, an Archon. It's self humiliation with a twist lol

[DiziCone]

yeah, but other than that he was hella funny. chasing that vessel down and ending the game with the stasis. absolute class. he was like "fuck your vessels fuck your units HERE HERE STASIS WHAT WHAT WHAT". to me, he won that one XD

[TheDKey]

amazing game, amazing players...

[xMonkFishx]

does emp drain sheild?

[Yolastresort]

Yes

[vixaroth]

yes

[donnk]

yes. of course.

[uzernam302]

lmfao.. that hyuk vulture comment alone would make this 30 min long game worth watching..

lol this whole game has just been really interesting.. science vessels EMP'ing everything.. then angry arbiters hunting down science vessels.

i completely agree both players showed great play, and movie is definitely showing hes a great creative player, but he definitely got thrown into one hell of a tough group.

GG!

[DarkPlague206]

Movie difintitely impressed me with the level of his play in this MSL group.

[zeejustin6]

de-new-ment cholera? :P

[xapemanx]

I didn't think Movie had it in him. well played

[pinkishblueblack]

epic EMP :D

[VeNm89]

Vulture driven by Hyuk's cousin.

[goa103]

Don't you guys read comments before posting ? Seriously the joke was funny and we all heard it but mentionning it like 10 times is just annoying.

[VeNm89]

I'm so sorry to have wasted your precious internets with my inane and repetitive comment. I will try my best to formulate well thought out and pertinent comments hencefore on FUCKING YOUTUBE. Die idiot.

[SuperSexyCommando]

Fantasy to the end!

[vanillacrem3]

This map makes for great TvP games.

[CentsOfFate]

Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler

That was a damn good game by both players, exactly what I like to see in PvT, back and forth action with harassment by both players and not some boring showdown with 150 vs 130 supply in the middle of the map.

I have to say, I thought I was watching Flash during his Reign of Terror when Fantasy started doing his mass Vulture harassment.

I really hope Fantasy can take a Gold this time in the MSL, especially since he made it twice in the OSL already.

[drdictatorr]

I really like Movie, i think he's a very unique and different player.

GO MOVIE!

[Fuckyoubloodymoron]

I don't mind spoilers myself, but now you're just being an ass.

[QQitsAndrew]

LMAO hyuk driving that vulture

[Nebulak187]

fantasy is actually a better player iverall than leta is i think. because hes so clever and has a very good gamesense

[Ardunafeth]

How on earth can people still say that movie deserved to win. He didnt build any reavers/high templar, didnt do any stasis and he played on a incredibly protoss favored map. I mean he's decent and all, but he Fantasy definitely deserved the win...

[Schlickk]

Yet he still held his own for most of the game. He could have easily taken the game if a few mines hadn't gone off or a DT had been more successful. It was close.

[EebstertheGreat]

Ardunafeth, Movie's play was stellar if his build was not. He failed an almost all-in cheese due to bad luck, then almost came back to win the game twice. He mostly lost because he couldn't deal with fantasy's harassment, which is some of the best in the world. And Outsider is in no way Protoss-favored. It is currently 11-10 PvT, but it's very even between top-level players and there have been 69 Terran players on the map compared to just 45 Protosses, so the pros clearly disagree with you.

[mikelorus2]

Because everybody wants to see the underdog win.

[goa103]

Not me, the best and most creative player deserves to win. I don't care if it's the underdog or a Superplayer like JD or Bisu.

[paier2]

I just think it's too hard to win without excellent mechanics... I think Movie's mechanics are a little lacking. His initiative is awesome, but his hard skills are lacking I think, from all the probes he lost.

[mrsmi1ey]

wow fantastic game. amazed that movie made it that far with only tier "2.5" level tech. no stasis... no storm!? he could have won if he had used these.

[Mpower277]

"That vulture is driven by hyuk's cousin"...hahahaha so good

[buffynajtor]

"hyuk's cousin" ftw! :))

Great match!! Movie is really throwing these ace players off their game with his crazy antics which makes for very interesting games.

[Wogrim]

Maybe Protoss should try getting a couple scouts to help with dropships and science vessels....

[kpg51876]

why would they get scouts instead of corsairs?

[ejacu1ator]

Scouts, that'd be a first.

Unless its much v. fbh

[EebstertheGreat]

Kal vs. fOrGG for the win.

But seriously, using scouts to kill science vessels is like using battlecruisers to clean up zerglings--it might work, but it's not exactly cost-effective.

[hellshade]

I give this win to movie he deserved it!

[DaR3b3L]

"vulture is beign driven by hyuk's cousin" -MUAHAHAAHAHHAHA

[sc2gg4ever]

Nice and actually a very close game, had the looser some units more he might have won this one

Gratz to the winner anyway, he played better imo

[LtMercutio]

GG.

Just goes to show if you're a protoss player, you've got to have enough units to stop that terran push from just rolling you over when it comes out. If you commit too many forces to recalls then you risk getting steamrolled by a Terran counterattack.

[SovietSR71]

thanks captain obvious

[meeu]

oh boy. Movie's gonna face Jaedong AGAIN.

[goa103]

I agree but if it happens in this round it means Leta is out :|. How is it possible to choose between these 4 players seriously ? I'm Zerg and should support JD but Fantasy, Leta and Movie are such great and creative players :?

[rockslavesoft]

Movie is the most exciting Protoss since Nal_ra!

[Yakotala]

Movie is a baller. Although he had like 6 nexus's and only 8 gateways at one point :( i hope he sticks to low econ games

[ithrowwaterballoons]

"..Vulture driven by Hyuk's cousin!" xD

[Arrowspace11]

I see lots of potential in Movie, just felt like his APM wasn't high enough to keep up with Fantasy's - lots of idle units on Movie's side in the late game. Still, epic match and series so far!

[bronx43]

TvP is just imba. Nothing more to it.

[20kcritsyo]

bulldog push :D ftw

[xiaowei1234]

is that y protoss have more than 50% win rate versus terran?

[bronx43]

P victories are due to mistakes by the T. A perfect game by T would win over a perfect game by P.

[xiaowei1234]

yea because even the best players can play a perfect game right?

ok pro

no such thing as a perfect game so just stfu please

[bronx43]

Lol, little Asian faggot. I was talking about perfect game from a theoretical standpoint.

[xiaowei1234]

lol resorting to racial attacks because i won the argument

stfu u dumb little shit

take your ethug elsewhere

u just proved urself wrong when u said it was from a theoretical standpoint

because no one can play a perfect game

way to go cumstain

[bronx43]

Haha, you didn't win shit, pathetic little nerd. Just because no one can play a perfect game doesn't mean that the theoretical scenarios can't be used to show imbalance.

[xiaowei1234]

U R SO STUPID

perfect games are non existent

protoss has over 50% win rate over T throughout SC history and even now.

Theory doesn't mean shit especially in this game because fantasy definitely did not play a perfect game he just played a better game than movie

i like how u call me a pathetic nerd even though U r watching the same video dumb shit

[bronx43]

Theory doesn't matter? Explain to me how Blizzard designed this game in the first place? In order to design a balanced game, you rely on theoretical scenarios, and not empirical data (as there were none). Blizzard designed T armies to be largely composed of MM's and tanks in TvP. They actually never predicted the sole use of machine units. What resulted was a TvP imbalance that was offset by human limitations.

You're a pathetic nerd not because of this video, but because you just are.

[xiaowei1234]

your posts make no sense and all u r doing is using circular logic

"human limitations" ROTFLMAO if humans weren't supposed to play this game from a "theoretical" viewpoint then who are these perfect players supposed to be? ALIENS?

You are not a dumbshit because of this video, but because u r a worthless cumstain that should have been aborted

please kill yourself and save the world from your stupidity

[bronx43]

Circular logic? Do you even know what circular logic is? How the hell was I using circular logic? It's very simple. The game is programmed in a way where T is inherently stronger than P. However, since people will struggle using either race to the extent of its capacity, P may have a statistical advantage in competitive play, because it's an easier race.

And trust me, I own you in life. Fuck off.

[xiaowei1234]

trust me

i know you are a cumstain that should have been aborted

PLEASE KILL YOURSELF FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY

[mrsmi1ey]

LMAO @ the last line. You are officially a loser.

[xiaowei1234]

go kill yourself dipshit

[georgemoore13]

Arguing on youtube = fail

[kpg51876]

NO IT"S THE BEST EVER.

[Murkglow]

And T victories are due to P mistakes. Your point? You have nothing to back up your "perfect game" balance theories... Frankly this is getting sad (from both sides).

[Murkglow]

Huh, I don't know how that came up, given that this is a starcraft game and the arguement was about TvP balance...?

[slayerX2]

What the fuck you on about ludwigious

[taylorhunterroxy]

successful troll is successful

[dk9999]

manbiters don't need spells and headbutts science vessels with 10 explosive damage :D

[bloodyDziq]

WHAT A GAME!! Movie must work on his tactics. Creative player, but he didn't know what to do in late game. From now Movie is one of my favourites

xD

[Saktoth]

His play is crazy! But i really think it was just getting EMP'd so much that lost it.

[twinesper]

that's why you need a shuttle with temps/storm in it

[pherzu]

This is the most entertaining Ro32 group I've ever seen.  The quality of play is more like that of quarter final games.

[paco2244]

great game, i'll be keepin my out for this movie

[iXanderz]

This series has made Movie epic. xD

[tuoljg]

i rmb ganzi won over jaedong, then jaedong destroyed him later in the msl series

[karene27]

how do you use Patrol to vulture micro >_? Go Jaedong =3

[artsho]

move away using the right click on the mouse, use P (for patrol) towards the enemy, right click away. repeat.

[pcab]

Just select vultures, hit P and click near enemies.  gl.

[hamster4sale]

"That vulture being driven by Hyuk's cousin"

Had to work hard to not spit cranberry juice on my laptop when I heard that.

[pherzu]

I am glad I wasn't drinking anything at the time because I would have failed.

[goa103]

Don't drink & Cholera. It's not safe ! lol

[valnizzas]

Cholera, love the late games at night!

[SAOSIN987]

wow really good game.

[SuperChuck3]

I like Movie's macro, very entertaining lol :D

[Zilong09]

nice game.

[nikeballin]

very good game :)

good job Movie

unfurtnately..no stasis..

u fail

rofl