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  • uncle tom

  • Respectfully

    I would encourage you to broaden your reading selection so that your knowledge base of the subject will grow deeper.

    Secondly read and intensely listen with an understanding of real African American history the totality of Shelbys work. Its contradictory and pays attention to his age and the events that took place when he was a young man.

    I honestly dont believe he believes what he is saying! Ahahahahaha THINK

  • I DO think; and Steele's writings are reflective of common sense - as opposed to the nonsense we hear from individuals who audaciously claim to speak for the black community today.

  • Tell me johnlorican,does each community have it's own spokesman? is their one for the Asians, Italians,German, and Indian community's,please mr. wizard give me their names.and since you seem to lack the common sense you speak of, who's speaking for you?

  • No, each 'community' doesn't have its own spokesman. Steele isn't the 'spokesman' for black America anymore than anybody else. Yet, the media treats and has treated, men like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton AS spokesman; individuals that they'll go to if a particular issue requires a 'black' response - and, historically, those two offer nothing but liberal foolishness.

    Shelby Steele is a counterpart to that; he offers up experiential wisdom that crosses ethnic boundaries.

  • experiential wisdom? you have some living to do junior.

  • Well, since I've been on the planet for 48 years, I HAVE done some living. I DO know what works and what doesn't.

    When I see the incredible incarceration among blacks, the 70% out-of-wedlock rate among blacks (which was about 10% as late as the 1940's - LESS than that of whites), the fact that 50% of all black female teenagers have an STD - yet black America CONTINUES to look to the government for its leadership - then I know that intellectuals like Steele will strike a chord - if heard.

  • Again I say my dear Dr. johnlorican, WHAT? where do you find your facts, do ask yourself are the same statistics that say black teens or people of color are more likely to receive incarceration for the same crimes White's will get probation for are correct? also the STD statistic's you mention, if I'm correct and I believe I am are for D.C., Washington the district of colombia, but your stupidity does not surprise me junior, anyone can make anything fit their agenda and that includes chimps.

  • I apologize, greenmean1.

    I assumed that you were a person that wanted to be taken seriously. I had hoped for the best - in spite of the crass nature of your posts.

    I was wrong. I realize now that I'm wasting my time.

    You won't be hearing from me again.

    Have a good life!

  • No need to apologize junior, and I'm sorry you think our discussion was a waste of time, I've always thought no discussion is a waste of time regardless how crass the nature of "your" post, I learned something and believe it or not my thinking was very close to yours years ago, but I'm glad to say today> I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now, Take Care.

  • Its important to analyze black men like Selby Steele, because he is nothing more than a well dressed, educated, petty opportunist. He has good delivery, but do not let his broad vocabulary, and deliberate demeanor fool you. If you listen carefully to his content you will find little substance in his message. In fact he is often contradictory .His secondary goal other than self is to help make those angry guilty ridden white folks who financially support him to feel better about them selfs.

  • Shelby Steele is THE brightest light today with regards to racial issues. He most certainly IS well-dressed but - if anything - he offers tremendous substance in his works. I've read 'White Guilt,'' A Bound Man,' and am working my way through his earlier books.

    There is no better American author today writing about white/black relations.

    None.

  • Hey johnlorican! the brightest light regarding racial issues? WHAT? No better author writing about white-black relations?WHAT? keep your blubbering and drooling to yourself, believe me junior you're in the minority in your opinion of this washed up ass wipe for the right, Shelby Steele hasn't figured out who he is yet.

  • As always, people whose worldview comes from the left simply can't make a comment without being vulgar ('washed up --- wipe'). Sadly, your comment reveals MORE about yourself than it does about Mr. Steele.

    Shelby Steele's books and writings are the most articulate tomes on race relations today. You should pick one up sometime and read it - but maybe you prefer material that's far more vulgar in nature, so you might not be interested...

  • Pardon????

  • @johnlorican Are you white? If so why are you reading books on black people? You should be concerned with yourself. Forget about minority groups. Focus on yourself.

  • sheelby is not only a coon he's wrong.

  • Hannity is one of the biggest racist on tv. What a shock look it's coon ass steel on hannity. Hey steel you're selling another book? what a shock lol. I love these black conservatives I swear I do. Self hatred is a motherfucker..

  • Can you tell me exactly why you feel Black conservatives are self hating?

  • Does anyone have a reference to Shelby Steele's reaction after Barack was elected?

  • YES!!! LOL go to google and type Shelby Steele on President-Elect Obama: Chapter 1 of 5

  • Even if Barack Obama gets elected, he still can't win.

  • What is the point of this video?

    Shelby Steele is genuinely a genius. Even if your interest in African American issues is negligible, you will be blown away by his analysis on everything.

  • Shelby Steele is one of the brightest thinkers on the American scene today.

    Media Matters, of course, wants to depict him in a misspeak with regards to the subtitle of his book on Senator Obama, but ALL of Steele's book and writings are must-reads if you want to hear intelligent commentary on racial issues from a perspective of someone who doesn't have a chip on their shoulder.

    Much of Steele's perspective is common sense - something that's lacking in 'talking head' television...

  • Yeah right? does not have a chip on his shoulders? the chip's name is jealousy, Steele wouldn't recognize common sense if it bit him in the anus and apparently you don't either, the brains and rational thinking belongs to Shelby's twin brother, Shelby Steele is an opportunist and flim flam man who specializes in selling BS to the mentally challenged guilt ridden losers looking for a dusky champion to confirm their feelings on all matters racial, problem is Steele's fighting a battle with in.

  • greenmean, I'll have to admit: your posts are entertaining....crude, sadly, but entertaining.

    Steele is 'guilt-ridden? ...an 'opportunist?' ... 'fighting a battle within?' What hogwash.

    Apparently, Shelby Steele has to toe the line on how a black person is 'supposed to think' in today's culture - and if he veers off the plantation that black liberal leaders have set for all blacks in America, he gets ripped by people who offer nothing but vulgarities.

    How pathetic and sad...

  • Do tell Dr. johnlorican, hogwash you say? so tell me how long have you worked in the mental health field?knowing what i do of Mr. Steele's background it's all so apparent this man has issues with himself, he's conflicted, he needs the pat on the noggin from his white conservative masters, he's of mixed heritage but so am I" African America and Jewish" is his wife Caucasian? not that there's something wrong with that, but he carries all the traits of some one who's self loathing.

  • Why do liberally-minded people view conservative blacks as 'self-loathing?'

    Mr. Steele, who grew up during the segregation of the 1950's, who adopted the 'black power' pose of the early 1970's, who favored liberal politics through the 1980's, basically saw the damage and estruction that those worldviews inflicted upon black America.

    Consequently, he began to think for himself and came to his own conclusions about life - and what works.....the exact opposite of 'self-loathing.'

  • Oh yeah, you're right! Shelby was the minister of propaganda for the Black Panther Party in Oakland, CA,Ha, ha,ha, I repeat to you junior, you and your 48 yrs aren't enough,find a dictionary and look up the word analytical and apply the word thinker, you my young friend need to travel more, meet others who are the complete opposite of you politically and engage them in discussion, and read books written by authors you don't agree with, until then junior find a mint to remove the smell of milk.

  • @johnlorican He is half white. He apparently doesn't like the half black side of himself. 

  • @dutytocareforothers Aparently your stupidity is evident. So I guess ALL black people must be liberal, all must have the same viewpoint?

    Blackman hates his race because he's conservatove hmmm! Wonder what you'd say about Africans who kill each other in civil wars on that continent. Are they any LESS African? Divided by tribes and killing each other? Than could be called "balck self hate."

    But I think the dumb bit in your suggestion is that 40 million people will all think the same.

  • Go Obama !!!!!!! Obama '08

  • BHO IS NEITHER A MESSIAH NOR THE ANTI CHRIST !

    THEY WOULDN'T NEED A TELEPROMPTER !

    Search:

    Obama - Gaffe Mania I

    Obama - Gaffe Mania II

    Enjoy Obama on his very OWN , or when his ear piece fails.

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