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  • Oh Diggity! I hate your overwhelming Protoss bias but I love your commentaries.

  • Aw man, Violet deserved the game for putting on such a good show

  • This is some crazy shit

  • That was the longest StarCraft match I've ever seen. Too bad someone had to lose that game because it was a nail biter. That's two great matches I've seen in the past two weeks with the first being FireBatHero vs. Jahoon and now this. WOW!

  • look at that crowd of fans 5:11

  • For want of an observer, the kingdom was lost.

    Yay queens actually being effective! They're my favorite unit. There's an easy counter though-- feedback kills them and denies them energy and can be done at great range, and DA's are immune to broodling.

  • jeese! intense!

  • Wow, what an intense game!

  • Holy molly, right now I'd say it's the best game I've ever seen. Nice casting diggy!

  • some nice jokes Diggity, rly laughed and the probe and scourge conversations :)

  • loosing the observer uhhh xD

  • some terrible terrible damage

  • For protoss to defeat zerg. They need to stop fast expanding. Seriously they get behind so much because they are forced to submit to a loss of map control and lack of units, for the first 6-8 mins of the game. Zergs have figured out the fast expand build, and they are capitalizing on it every game

  • seriously? Have u seen the game? all Violet had 2 do is capturing (at least after he killed the zergs expantion there) the 10 to 11 o'clock base...then he would have had nice macro (income) to support his gateways....his micro was incredible, the dark archon helpin imensly. Point being, i still think the fast expand is the way to go, but there were 2 many cannons in this game. More expansionistic strategy would have sealed the deal....***remember, 2 gate aggr. was common, but lost many games!

  • Protoss got contained too early, had some crazy good harass but he lost his observers and high templar too easy. Big props for all the storming he did though! Would also have liked to see a resource count on both players, seemed like the zerg had him out-resourced 2:1 almost

  • You are actually retarded... did you know that?

  • Why? You basically said the exact same thing.

  • This matchup still isn't zerg favored, protoss keeps playing the same loser builds, allowing zerg to power way too long early, wasting their midgame money and tech on harrassment units that never accomplish anything.

    It's like how zergs complained about PvZ being imba after the bisu build corsair play came out, because they kept playing 3 hatch muta builds

  • this is ridiculous, we need bisu or someone to figure out this pvz imbalance. even when the toss player outplays the zerg player the toss player losses.

  • One of the best ZvP in a long time imo, and awesome casting as usual!

  • diggity you wanna have my kids?

  • epic fucking match. violet should've taken the 10 o'clock early on in the game

  • great game. Glad to see queens being used. Probably wouldn't need parasite on the shuttles if he had any scourge control but he obviously didn't :P Ensnare owns against those archons though. I hope to see them become standard against protoss. especially zealot archon.

  • This game was awesome!

    I mean: It had Ensnared Archons!

  • great game and awesome commentary, love your unit impressions. Also lol a elevator mining.

  • Man how does a guy lose after getting that many drone kills? Wtf PvZ seems unbalanced right now.

  • yep thats 1a2a3a4a protoss for ya.. all we need to do.... most retarded opinion ever... and i dont think it was the observers that lost him the game. i think it was playing as defensevly as u need to to stay alive to a zerg. he wasnt able to expand at the same time. with a red swarm of zerg outside ur window and having to make the storm drops of the centuary... its klinda hard to 1a2a3a out and take aditional bases

  • brilliant game, thanks alot for casting

  • Thanks diggity, that was great.

  • /grace

  • Queens are vastly underated and underused units in professional starcraft. Ensnare/broodling/parasite are all potentially game changing abilities that - regardless of what some may wrongly think - are easy to use, and require the same amount of micromanagement as other spell casting units such as arbiters or science vessels.

  • Crazy game, thanks for casting.

  • SPOILER

    Really feel sorry for Violet. He did some brilliant moves the entire game and almost managed to pull through.

    The critical thing was the fact that since the observers were continuously sniped, it took him too long to break the lurker. Beacuse of that, he was unable to establish another base, which would have sealed him a victory.

  • wow one of the most entertaining games in a LONG LONG time. thanks for the great commentary diggity, i'm a long time fan. As a zerg fan, the drone massacres really set my stomach on end. the whole mid-game was just endless templar drops.  The dark archons were a real crowd pleaser; don't know if they were quite all that effective, however. I also liked the awesome muta fly-bys assasinating everything. Would have liked to see mass broodling more, That would give zerg 'time is on my side' adv

  • great TvZ

  • i mean PvZ :)

  • that was a Good game

  • wow I'm surprised how many resources zerg had left! And one DA at the end might have been good against the queens, to protect the HT.

    Awesome game - thanks for the commentary!

  • awesome match, awesome commentary

    thanks again diggity

  • amazing game.

  • we're winning the war! :D

  • Epic, epic game. Not flawless play on either side but a bunch of great back-and-forth, clever play. I like seeing the protoss experimenting with different builds. And it certainly was closer in a lot of ways than most recent PvZ.

    Thanks for commenting and posting!

  • It seems most ppl think Violet deserved the win based on his great HT drop harass. But Violet was never able to capitalize on those moments of Shine's inferior economy and the game went into starvation making all those drops useless. While there are no drones, resources are not being spent and will last even longer and eventually they will be all transformed into units anyway. All that Shine lost was the minerals to respawn the drones, which he traded for many shuttles and HTs. Great game tho.

  • YAOK u sey that

  • I think that's why you must upgrade overlord to overseer to have detection in SC2, free detector on overlords is imba against low health observers

  • oh and parasite on shuttle is really nice because you can see what's in it!

  • holy fuck that was epic

  • who was that old lady at the end O.o

  • @TorqueSmacky13 Yeah lol...

  • Excellent game and excellent commentary.

  • NO. WAY.

  • better player lost here I think (that surely spoilers that it was not the zerg who lost at least in these days)

  • epic game

  • Observers vs drones....EPIK game

  • Great commentary diggity :)

  • man, i really wanted violet to take that :(

    great game though

  • The one problem with storm drops in a starvation game is that those minerals can still be mined later.

    Yes, drones are costly, and dead drones hurt, but ..

    As diggity said, gotta press the advantage and kill some troops while the drone count is low.

  • Keep obs alive is much easier said then done. Their like science vessels in TvZ but science vessels arn't as fragile as the terran has more marines to dragoons so chances of marines hitting the scourge are higher, and obs only needs one scourge to kill.

    As a protoss player I can feel what he was feeling right there having a great run out all due to ob problems.. Simply unfair.

  • all thanks to jaedongsoverlord+scourage tactic when going lurkers

  • pffft, the storms in battle were wasted. but the maelstrom and storm drops were awesome.

    I hope Violet gets more coverage like this.

  • Holy Shit what a nice game...was cheering for violet the whole time, since I really liked his play against...i think it was bisu.....fan since then :D

    Violet is such a creative protoss, just sometimes inconsistent....

    I felt he was the better player....just failed to push his advantage....

  • Man, I freaking LOVE long economic games... they are always so cool and filled with the rarer units :3

    I had my fingers crossed the entire time for an epic scout vs devourer fight :P

  • Longest game I've seen and almost all tech used

  • Wow, an amazing game to watch. Kept me excited the whole way through. Thanks for another awesome commentary.

  • hrm... if you parasite a reaver, could you see the number of upgrades and scarabs it has???

  • no.

  • Weird you can brood high/dark templars but not dark archon/archon. But i guess they are not bio anymore after they merge, rather some kind of energy.

  • um... duuuuhhh?! everybody knows that after two beings come together to merge as one that they are no longer biological beings, but rather pure energy. DUH! [p.s. just kidding]

  • I thought violet deserved the win, but I guess in the end it was who won that counted.

    I suspect that there were many vulnerabilities that he just didn't take advantage of. At first glance, it seems like if a zerg has 4 drones and a protoss has perfect probe saturation, the zerg coming back would display a severe imbalance in the metagame.

    But keep in mind that all zerg units just MELT to protoss units. Maybe he could have pulled the game if he had taken advantage of his economic lead.

  • epic storms. epic observer fail. :(

  • that was a high tempy that died diggity xD

  • awesome game, although i really have to tell diggity something :

    Broodling doesn't work on reavers, nor does it work on probes. when it looks like he's broodlinging a probe, it's actually a high templar (take a good look)

  • @Celerity2 yeah it can only kill bio or a bio unit inside a mech(like siege tank).

  • you're right, but he won't read this

  • I won't?

  • Oops. Got you mixed up with Cholera (who already stated he doesn't read comments)- my bad.

    plus:

    OMFG I got a comment from diggitySC!!! :)

  • I actually knew this but it was a live cast. Misspoke

  • That was... that was a pretty epic match. I mean seriously, both of them deserve props. This match should hopefully have an effect on the future metagame as well. They both used almost every single unit, didn't they?

    This match also let's me see why Blizzard is focusing so much on vision in Starcraft 2. It can add a ton of depth, and it was also unfair that zerg started straight off with detection, so the overlord change will bring a lot of new strats to the game.

  • Only missing Ultras & Devourers I think

  • oh, and scout, carrier & arbitor :P

  • He had an ultra cavern too ... never used it.

  • Definitely an awesome match. I'm pretty sure that reavers and probes can't be broodling'd though seeing as they're robotic (it seemed like you were refering to them being broodlinged) All they can really do is kill zealots and dark/high templars.

  • Lmao wow its already kind of desperate when a player starts to distance mine, but when a player starts having to ferry them over cliffs you know he's left with nothing else to do.

  • Shine sucks shit, i hate him

  • Absulately Great Game :D

  • gg! nice play

  • What a fucking excellent game. I wish you would do more of these long games with expanded tech use. This was certainly an entertaining match.

  • aww man i feel bad for him haha

  • "keep in mind he's got parasite."

    LOL @ 1:30.

  • Epic, epic game :D I love these long ones.

  • This match and the one before it are two of the craziest matches ive seen so far, aside from the comeback from nothing boxer made ages ago, and the mega battlecruiser battle i saw before. Nice one Diggity, keep it up!

  • lol, there was some gardians at the very end of the game 4:50

  • Wow Shine did NOT deserve the win at all...

  • How so...There was incredibly sloppy play on both player's parts at some point or other during the match.

  • He plays p...

  • diggity im disappointed.

    dont u know u cant broodling probes?

  • yes I know you cant broodling probes reavers or archons. I misspoke. It was a live cast a little grace please.

  • In a way i totally agree with you, but... if Diggity says you can broodling probes, then you can f-in broodling probes. How dare you question DiggitySC!!!??

  • great commentary ! gg !

  • "Scourge are going to win the game." You say sarcastically.

    Two minutes later, scourge get the last observer, and win the game. :D

  • Digg! Probes can't be broodling-ed.. their robotic, totally. He got a High templar :D

  • that was a real epic game :D

  • Man Digg, this was an awesome game. Enjoyed it through and through. And you sound really good. Kinda happy like things are going your way.

  • I counted 52 drones killed

  • damn..violet soo deserved that..although i play z...i still think violet played a dead good game up untill now...soz violet =X

  • Violet's problem was that he had insane storm drops, but that was pretty much it... Lost a RIDICULOUS amount of observers, was constantly storming his own units, lost a lot of units for no good reason... An unfortunate turn of events. -_-;

  • that's an amazing game, extremely entertaining, thx diggity

  • Hero Queens

    The last confront makes my day.

    Epic and heroic ending of a P v Z matchup:

    only the strong survives till last

  • the templar drops were nice but he couldnt capitalize on them because of his bad observer micro.

  • Saddest loss ever!

  • ridiculous game. violet is so epic with HT drops, but on second thought, if he just saved ALL those HT and moved out with reavers, could he have won? i think so...

  • Christ what does a Protoss player have to do? His observer play was retarded though..... and he was overly cautious.

    Actually Violet did play a bit shit, maybe when Bisu starts using dark arcon we'll see a change

  • Bisu should mod his Bisu-build to templar drops + sairs

    It'd be the sickest shit to date

  • amazing game. great commentary as always by diggity!

  • Its nice to see a PvZ go into late game in this day and age. Thanks a lot for the commentary diggity! Go Violet!

  • What an absolutely beautiful game; thanks for casting it.

  • What a ridiculous game. Wow.

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  • @ssam151 I think it's Shine's mom? Most people in Korean who watches StarCraft understand StarCraft.

  • Epic long match. Hundreds of observers and drones killed.

    Love seeing Dark Archons out there though.

  • great job diggity but in the future queens cant broodling probes or reavers ^.^

  • such a good game, Violet deserved that game,

  • yup you're right. diggity did say those things, thanks for reminding us

  • Is he not allowed to echo diggity's statements because his opinion matches? That's what the comments are for, sharing your opinion.

  • Wow, that was entertaining. Stellar play from both players.

  • Entertaining but I think it really was both players mediocrity that caused it to last so long.

  • Awesome game, and great commentary as usual. Thanks diggity!

  • Wow he looks absolutely devastated.

  • Wow, another epic match by Shine! First, protoss makes dark archons, then zerg makes queens. Wow. By the way, I don't think queens can broodling reavers. Also, I think either of them deserved the win. Violet had some pretty good storms off on the drones, but actually, it's quite hard to dodge storm drops when shuttles are speed upgraded, because scourges don't land properly, and drones die in like half a second under storm.

  • Wow. Great. Pure entertainment. Why isn't this kind of thing on US television? Violet had the match in his grasp, but overall I think the major problem was letting Shine have those extra bases for so long, he was able to outlast him. The Psy storming shuttle drops were brilliant too, but like I said, Shine had enough bases to counter the loss of drones.

  • Oh, and broodlings.

  • In the end, Shine started to play smarter and that's what won him it. Building up on the queens helped, a long with keeping that last defiler alive and a quick tech-change to mutas. Also even with all the storm harrass, as hamster said, Violet wasn't doing enough to limit Shine's base count and in the end that is what killed him. Still, i like the variety of tech that was used this game (Dark archons, queens, and guardians). In the end the plauge won it for Shine.

  • couldnt of said it any better besides saying epic game and worth watching in the am. i Drank a mcdonalds sweet tea and got up to pee 3 times and every time i did i was like what an epic game because i had no clue who was winning because no one could see minerals etc.

  • "YES! were winning the war,what to do now? MINE! where?!  IDK!"

    Epic diggity qoute

  • quoted for truth

  • Queens were the difference maker in that. They gave Shine great vision info and annihilated the HTs. Also, terrible obs micro on Violet's part.

  • oh man, that was one kickass match

  • Epic game.

    Besides the constant observer hemorrhaging that diggity mentioned, I really felt Shine was able to pull this out due to having way more bases for such a long period of time. Violet made use of around 4 total bases versus Shine's 6-7.

    I do also agree that Violet deserved it based on that EPIC storm harassment. At some point it felt like Shine's will had been broken and he wasn't even trying to move his drones: he had just accepted their death as a fact of playing Violet.

  • NOT THE OBSERVERS! NOOO

  • omg last obs!!!

  • gg, really worth the watch

    Fun commenting!

  • great game

  • HOW MANY DRONES!?

  • Nooooo

    nice match but disappointing ending

  • man that queen play was so pimp ensare + muta sniping the reavers awesome

  • wow toss dude lost all battles -.-

    Shine really did out play him

  • should have made a few more dark archons!

    feeeedback!

  • dark archons feedbacking queens, i dream of the day.

  • But... not enough queens to make you want to have enough dark archons.

  • Epic, purely epic.

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