Had to stop the video, the presenter shouldn't be in the job- I though the other BBC lot were bad but he's up there with the worst I've seen- embarrassment but also he's plain rude.
@mikeypinder Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
John Soper's a massive prick... Jeremy Paxman wannabe - You go for it Nigel Farage! Out of EU now... and see the corrupt EU and Euro crumble its tiny bits.
Wow, to the uninitiated, I belonging to the great unwashed. This interviewer is a bit of a cunt. I am an American, my best interest is a weak competing euro, but I can't fault a honest "true believer".
@bringbackmydemocracy Agreed. We pay for these people independantly of party through our taxes. I dont expect such obvious bias from the BBC. I dont know if this guy is being rude in an effort to try and make a name for himself. Taking a hostile rude tone to ask a question is not required if your asking the right questions.
Everyone is missing the point here, we voted NO on this referendum but that vote was ignored.The politicians then had the cheek to tell us we only voted no because we didn't understand the treaty, basically calling us all ignorant. France and Holland also voted no on this treaty but the EU ignored them also
Oh holy fuck, if only we in Ireland had someone like this guy before all the shit hit the fan. The Eu has fucked us over big time. THEY DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT US. Why are they robbing us with those high loan interest rates? Why was our No vote ignored in the first referendum? Why are they trying to take away our 12% corporation tax? Because it's in their own interests! They want a blanket harmony tax and we are stopping that. The Eu are a shower of anti Democratic looneys
Sry for this childish comparison, but it reminds me somehow of a scene out of "Starship Troopers". The scene when the scientist talked about the "brainbugs" facts, and the author hilariously tried to shout her down.
hes right cameron didnt give us a vote on the lisbon treaty next election we all need vote ukip bnp and all the smallers partys if not then time to protest until a new goverment is bought in
I've been to Ireland a couple of times this year, couldn't find a single person who voted Yes in either of the referenda. People over there told me the second vote was rigged, I'm certain they are right.
Is this presenter originally hired from FOX-NEWS? Quite silly and populistic questions, which seems not to have the goal to inform,but to create opinions. The lisbon treaty is a very undemocratic and totally unnecessary thing,which will lead to shift the power from the public to a small "elite",to continiously spend more in the military,and to reduce personal freedom.Eeryone who reads most of it will realise this!The goal is clear!You remember the "swineflew-pandemic"?
You can say hello to a Unionized work which serves no other purpose than to make you angry. We have experienced this type of garbage in the Northeast of America and let me tell you, unionization breeds CORRUPTION. These people are doing this for the sole purpose of robbing you through labor.
the BBC's been infiltrated with Jew, Left-wing commie Marxist's controlling the power. Its like a little Te Aviv social club,.all "jobs for the boys". The BBC is clearly a racist & bigoted organisation that openly discriminated against white British people who dare say anything that contradicts their PC-brigade nutters charter.
In the last 30 years one never sees Chinese people on the BBC,.who have been in Britain as immigrants a lot longer than Blacks & Asian groups. Jews 1st, Brits 2nd
@neo58421964 The interviewer is paid to ask searching questions. He is not simply some 'Yes' man who should allow the person he ois interviewing to have an easy ride. But perhaps you think interviewers are only there to lick Nigel Farage's ar*e. If that's what you believe, then you are even sadder than UKIP itself.
or better.. what WAS actually written in the "new" (insubstantially modified) lisboa contract.since the relation of its keywords to historical evolvement of the EU ideologies and their charta is highly complicated and only interpretable with a thorough, juridic background.
This is clearly stated by at least one criticist and expert: Prof. Schachenbreiter.
It's the same as if new surveillance IT technologies get pushed through over politicians, even though.. the meaning was never explained.
The problem is simply that those making the laws in the EU are basically "self-elected".. which is in no way compatible with the principles of democracy. Does that make any sense to you?
Instead of spreading your worthless, uneducated opinion. You should really check out farager's other most courageous statements and explanations within EU discussions.
BALLS... OF... STEEL!
Also: Most people having a say during the sessions. Actually have no clue about what is actually written...
@xxxToomy07 The interviewer asked a few probing questions. Similar to the style adipted by Jeremy Paxman on many occasions. He's paid to explore the issues in depth ; not to sit there and be a 'Yes' man for whoever he is interviewing.
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"it can't be right for 3 million Irish voters to decide the future of Europe (and the UK)."
- N. Farage. Of course, when Ireland voted 'No', it was fine for Ireland to make such a decison. But, because we voted 'Yes' (by a 2-1 majority), "it can't be right". Farage is not exactly Mr. Consistent when it comes to his various pronouncements.
The main thing is that it represented a democratic choice on the part of the Irish electorate. If we'd voted 'No' a second time, Farage would have hailed the result as a "giant victory for democracy". But, because Farage got a 'Yes' vote instead, he categorises the result as unfair and Zimbabwean. Typical Farage. Typical Farage also pronouncing on Irish Constitutional law. He's not a lawyer. And he knows sweet feck all about Irish Constitutional law.
Do you not remember that Ireland DID vote no already?
So they keep presenting it to us until enough idiots vote yes. And guess what! Enough idiots voted yes...btw these are the same idiots who keep voting Fianna Fail and their cronies into Government...the same party who have always been raping the common worker with taxes in Ireland to feed their big fat wealthy friends. How long will the stupid Irish stay asleep?....and yes, I AM Irish...and ashamed of it
So all 1,205,000 'Yes' voters were Fianna Failers? Yeah, right. The reality, of course, is that they were an electic bunch of different political persuasions (as evidenced by the political affiliation section of the Lisbon " exit poll).
All you people complain about the EU, emphasising and exagerating how undemocratic it is. But when it comes to a referendum which says 'yes' to the EU, all of a sudden you seem to hate democracy.
i feel exactly the same as you, ashamed. probably be going abroad(outside the EU) for work next year and all these lambs that voted, i hope it come's back and kicks them up the arse.
Szufler what a load of tosh. And admac71 if you haven't met a yes voter maybe you should get out more and meet people. I'm glad that the Irish resisted the scare tactics of UKIP and the rest of the no campaign. Respect the democratic right of the Irish to change its mind on the Lisbon Treaty!
We had two referendums on the divorce issue and the Irish people changed their mind the second time round. Don't you think we had the right to say yes?
Don't you think that the Irish had the right to say 'NO' like they did the first time. Don't you think that there demacratic vote should have been respected? Rather than told they was wrong and had to vote a second time around because there first answer wasn't good enough? Don't you think that the Irish people shouldn't have been underminded with propoganda in there schools?
Here here Padraig!It seems Nigel didn't bother to comment on the fact that in the first referendum the No side had posters everywhere and the yes side didn't even put up a fight.This time a real effort was made by the yes side and we've seen the results.
Being irish i was shocked that the yes vote was so strong , anybody that i met or spoke to on the vote was voting no. I cant believe that the yes vote got a 2 thirds majority . There is video evidence that poll boxes were being removed from counting stations , and why is it that the election result was given even with only 30% of the boxes open.
@admac71 everyone i knew voted no to it and more than that allot of people who origionally voted yes voted no just because we had to vote again ... weird
lisbon was rigged the only polling stations that had garda monitoring were the ones on tv there were no garda at any other stations and there was no excort to the counting stations the garda seriff warned all independent monitoring groups such as coir with arrest if they tryed to monitor the stations all stations reported 50-60% turnout but when they opened the boxes there was a80% turnout and every singal constituancy had a 20% increase in yes vote RIGGED!
The Irish yes vote means that all of Europe LOST and only the EU's wealthy burocrats (Barrosso gets 230,000 Euros a year) WON.
We Europeans lost democracy,accountability and sovereignty. Now we are at the mercy of the un-elected commission's 30,000 burocrats who work around the clock to think up more regulations for us serfs to obey.
So sad that Europe has surrendered it's values to a small "elite" of failed national politicians.
2 - Between them the EU parliament / Council of Ministers have to approve the laws.
3. At those two big meetings of all the EU members leaders they have each year, they effectively decide what powers the EU should or shouldn't have, their is nothing stopping them from revoking some of those powers.
People are always willing to bring up history to demonstrate how badly Britain behaved. What about our recent history when we and the commonwealth stood alone against Nazi tyranny before USSR/USA got involved . Many of our cities show the scars of Blitzkreig. BTW I am not a frothing British nationalist. I have Irish blood in me just as Swedish, French, Flemish, German, Moravian but this EU model is undemocratic and I don't support any undemocratic government- national or supranational.
Yes but the unelected chamber is subservient to the Commons, I would like to see it abolished completely. I am not a monarchist and differ with UKIP on that too. But until we bring self-government back to our country (i.e. an elected parliament that can propose and repeal legislation)all these are moot points. The EuroParl can only suggest amendments to awful legislation proposed by the COP/Commission and they often ignore it anyway- I was an activist in EU some years ago so know this personally
Oh really and how much of the electorate know the name of their Commissioners? (if they even have one after Lisbon) How many of them have a say on who they are? As I said the House of Lords is subservient to the House of Commons, the Council of Presidents and the Commission (who tend to push for big business) can bypass the parliament by agreeing between themselves. And no one but the political class elected them.
Well do we elect our cabinet then? Do we elect our ministers of state? The political class does not elect them. The people elect the governments. You make up this stuff about the political class, to create a fake conscept of dictatorship, as if they are all from one lodge. They are merely the elcted governments of each nation.
Actually the political class do elect them (ministers of state, cabinet). The head of the party picks the cabinet. The Prime Minister approves chief judges - these tend to be the same people. The point is that even this level of indirect democracy creates risks. Now we have two supreme chambers of law making that the people do not directly elect. If you can't figure out the problem with that system then your love of Europe is eclipsing your common sense.
It is not unelected The EU parliament is elected. The commission is a committee of representatives of elected people. That is democratic accountability. If the people do not like policies being formulated we can elected new governments. Just as we can elect a new government if we do not like what a government is doing in local seat or policy area. To claim that is tyranny is utter lies. A matrix system can be less corruptable than a direct system as you can bribe on direct chosen leader.
This is the same system used in local councils. Will you argue against the local council system. We do not elect our PM either. Is that undemocratic? There is democratic accountability end of story. To fall back on the excuse of the "tyranny of the political class" is weak as we have the same politcal class running this country's democratic system. How does getting rid of the commissiomn get rid of our political class. You are confusing different issues.
Local councils are not appointed, they are elected directly they ORGANISE indirectly. The PM is not directly elected but most people would probably want to change this. (I have no problem with the concept of directly electing the head of state/prime minister.) Yes we do have similar political classes ruling our states but ask yourself this, when they are in control of 1 big superstate with a huge military are they going to be more or less concerned about what citizens of the provinces think?
There is not a "they". It is leaders from 27 different nations with different cultures, elites, languages, answerable to their electors. They have to get elected in their country. Why would they ignore their local people. There is no single political class. It is one of the advantages of the system. That unlike the UK there is no real dominant elite who all went to the same schools universiites and speak the same lingo. The UK already has a huge army, what is your issue?.
Formally 27 nations. Nations have the right to make their own laws on things like Agriculture, Fisheries, Currency, Taxation, Trade Policy, Defence Policy, Social Security, Economic Structure of Industries (public/private), Fiscal Policy, Law and Order, Education. (The things that matter to people)
They ignore local people the same way they ignored 3 referenda. Netherlands, France, Ireland.
My point was creating a superstate contains risks. Overwhelming monopoly of military force is one.
You can say the same cheap argument about the UK, or the USA, or Japan. The Commission is the ELECTED governments of each nation. How is that undemocratic. The Politburo never got elected.
Yes but the difference is the civil service do not draft the laws or didn't used to. Would you think a system where the civil service write the laws and the parliament rubber stamp them is better than a purer form of parliamentary democracy? If the EU fanatics want a federal Europe fine. Put it to the vote and let us elect a real congress and a president directly. I never voted for Fritz Bolkestein, Pat Cox, Neil Kinnock. Actually commissioners do not represent any member state.
The Civil service do write laws. I do not want an elected president. That just means one man who can easily be corrupted. This present system is better.
The civil service's role was usually to finetune existing legislation within parameters- not to propose major laws.
So you prefer an unelected president to an elected one? That is direct I'll grant you.
The present system. An unelected cabal in the 2 most powerful institutions, with a President whom we cannot change directly at all at the helm, and who also hold meetings in secret. How far we've come!
They are not elected, they are appointed by Government in the same way as high court judges. That may be fine for judging on issues of already codified law, but not for a law making chamber.
That is simply not true. Commissioners are not accountable to any single member state. They are each given a specific portfolio completely unrelated to their home country.
The council of presidents discard the will of national governments and parliaments even when instructed (see EU software patent/"Computer Implemented Inventions" directive for evidence of this). The same undemocratic maneuvering they used in Ireland and pretty much the same corporations. e.g. Intel, Microsoft, big business.
Would be a little more convincing if our second chamber were elected, head of state elected, we didn't have special advisors who have more influence than all but a handful of MPs (ala A. Campbell), didn't have thousands of unelected QUANGOS forming policy or a system where MPs who know very little abut a subject are made the minister and are at the mercy of the civil service.
Not to mention a system where most MPs vote based on not upsetting their boss to get promotion.
That may be true, but would you support those same quangos making law without any elected members' consent at all? If you have issues with the current system reform it , don't create yet another supreme class of bureaucrats that take the place of what little democracy we have left. That is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I thought the laws the EU commission initiated required consent in various forms from the EU parliament and/or (depending on the area) from the Council of the European Union, both of which are elected.
The Parliament is elected but only gets any kind of say during co-decision. The Council is not elected, but appointees are sent by Governments. Governments usually have to face scrutiny in national parliaments but now they send their henchmen to meet in private away from prying eyes.
The Euro-Parliament can only amend or reject proposals, they cannot propose or repeal legislation. Often their amendments are stripped out totally only giving them the option of rejecting or rubber stamping.
You say the Council is not elected, I assume you mean specifically elected as from what I've read it usually comprises of the minister relevant to the topic from each country, so is still comprised from elected individuals.
Hence when you say "making law without any elected members' consent at all" I don't believe that to be true given those laws have to have consent from elected members.
And just to clarify I think it is far from perfect, just your statement doesn't match the facts.
Well the commission do propose/draft the law without any input from elected representatives, they have sole right to legislative initiative.
All I can say is the next time a bit of low quality legislation threatens your sector, see how accountable these institutions are and how they discard the will of the people as they did with the referenda on the Constitution/Lisbon treaty. If you can't see the way this project is going and would rather play institutional semantics that is your prerogative.
It isn't semantics at all, it is the difference between a dictatorship that simply hands down law to follow and laws that must be approved by some sort of democratic consent. I think that is quite an important distinction, even if you don't.
'In carrying out its responsibilities, the Commission shall be completely independent. Without prejudice to Article 18(2), the members of the Commission shall neither seek nor take instructions from any Government or other institution, body, office or entity'
There aren't any ministers in the commission. The commission is nothing but a civil service- one that gets to propose laws. Where are the ministers in the commission?
The potato famine happened because Ireland was ruled by dictate by a small group of people who cared nothing for the lives and welfare of the Irish people. Just like the Tsars in Russia, or the French aristocracy or countless other elitist regimes & totalitarian states.
So why would you imagine that this EU totalitarian state will treat Ireland any differently.
Lightbulbs?, control over FOOD< JOBS< LAW< ARMY< POLICE<DEATH PENALTY, all there in Lisbon for you
And how will Ireland have home rule in future now that all laws & descisions will be dictated by the EU. not be the elected Irish MEPs, you miss the fact that the EU will be run by an unelected elite who can ignore the will of the Irish.
Ireland has just signed away her soverign status, the Irish are now subject to the dictate of the EU council, sorry but that is exactly the same as in the 19th C.
Question is WHY??? Why give up what you shed blood to gain.
So should dublin be an independent city to after all freedom should NEVER be surrendered. Go back to the provinces as nations then. After all freedom should never be surrendered.
That's not the point as Dublin within Ireland retains some say in what happens there. Whereas Ireland within the EU will retain no say in what happens there.
This vote was about Ireland giving up democracy and accepting totalitarian rule from afar, by unelected people who care nothing for Ireland & that is why it's about giving up your freedom.
We will have in Europe the same form of Government as existed in the Soviet Union & the same as now exists in China, as far from free as we could be.
It is nothing like this over union grow up. You have been bitten by hysteria. It is not undemocratic it has an elected parliament and the commission is representatives of the elected governments.
I know you Irish think we Brits are Godlike but I can assure you that we don't have the power to do God's work. The potato blight was a natural disaster, the reason for the famine was down to Irishmen continuing to export food, an even when the government brought grain from the usa, the Irish didn't wait for it to ripe and so wasted it by producing poor, low quality bread..So keep blaming the British for all YOUR problems, we all know your Church is your master and educator.
you fuckin idiot jimladx23 check your history , ireland was robed of its natural resources ,land,crops etc for 600 years.british land lords exported the crops ,while people died in their homes
Aye.. about as well as the American whites have treated the American Indians, who to this day want their country back & their freedom from foreign rulers.
After all, abuse of a subjugated people is not solely a British act, it's something that has been done by people of every colour and race.
The poor of Britain suffered at the hands of their elite ruling class, the same ruling class which abused Ireland, the same ruling class from different nations that will run the EU.
The ruling class of Ireland can be removed by vote or force by the Irish people.
The ruling unelected elite of the EU cannot be removed by vote & given that the EU now has the power to station foreign troops on Irish soil, then there is no chance of removal by force.
The 'elections' of MEPs have no purpose as the MEPs only exist to make suggestions to the Commission. The Commission is unelected by the people so you will now never know who will rule Ireland in advance.
It can be. The EU parliament can remove it Plus the commission is made up of ministers from the elected government. The commission ios not like the house of lords it made up of people chosen by elected governments. Decisions in the commission are made by elected governments. Why do you support the house of lords and the monarchy which are undemocratic in every sense.
The UK monarchy has no useable powers & therefore democratic or not it doesn't matter.
The House of Lords is little more than a rubber stamp, but it offers some check to Gov.
The EU Commission is appointed by elected official, but that still means that the EU citizens get no direct say over who has power over them.
So having fought across Europe for the right to vote in our leaders, we are now back to an elected generally corrupt elite having the means to decide who has absolute power.
The house of lords has total power to stop whatever laws they want. It is totally unelected and not a rubber stamp they can choose whatever they want to stop plus they can change laws.
The EU commission is made up of elected governments. The UK monarchy can decide who forms coalition governments.
Not if the speaker disagrees or thee vote in the house of commons win by less than a 100. That is not a rubber stamp. That is the prevention of any law, they want. That is far less democratic than any item in your so called EUSSR.
If any foreign troops enter Ireland then Britain will have no other option than to garrison Northern Ireland which will bring about unrest in that province. This was one of the reasons why Sinn Fein stood against the Lisburn Treaty. It's such a shame that Sinn Fein were not listened too
It is somewhat shocking that on a question of Irish independence that Sinn Fein were not listened to.
The rule from afar that led to the formation of the IRA is exactly what the EU is all about. Ironically both North and South now are in the same boat.
Ultimately there may be troops from Turkey or possibly even a N African state stationed in Ireland, with guns pointed inwards, & the people of Ireland have no means of stopping that from happening.
The potato blight was britian's fault get over it. That is historical fact.
We all accept the millions who died in communist famines were killed by their governmentso you cannot ignore that is the same for british government famines. Grow up.
Hmm 800 years ago the NORMANS invaded Ireland. Some Irish are so stuck in the past that they cant see the future & it's a disgrace that a people who have suffered living under totalitarian rule should so be forced to give up their freedom to an anti democratic empire.
The Irish are so fucked up about the British that you're missing the fucking big wolf at your door. The British Empire is dead & long gone. the EU is real and threatens the very soul of Ireland & all the people in these Isles.
All those across Europe who value freedom, liberty & see the terrible dangers that lie in being ruled by an unelected elite, they were hoping and praying that the Irish people had the guts to stand up to the EU monster. It wasn't out of concern for the Irish, but self preservation.
And that is the bottom line in this, no-one cares about Ireland outside Ireland, no-one cares if you choose a totalitarian state, no-one will jump to protect you from you own bad choices, the Irish have to do that.
Given his obvious bias, the interviewer clearly IS working for the 'Corporation'! He proves Farage's point that the media is corrupt himself! I doubt that the Irish were told that any MP they vote for now will only be able to MAKE SUGGESTIONS to the unelected EU Council, which they can reject! Or that the Treaty is SELF-AMENDING which means in the future, any 'deals' that Ireland made with the EU can be thrown out of the window!! What a horrible, horrible moment in history this is.
Everyone here knows, or you should do, NOTHING is going to change, NOTHING. It never does, we're too lazy. Everyone'es lazy. No one ever does anything, no one even cares. I mean that, I expect NOTHING to happen to this EUSSR. NOTHING.
You hear that poor people (I'm one of you, but I DID do something) you're on your own now, well done, you've been fighting amongst yourself for far too long.
I am so close to giving up on people all together. Some are just too stupid.
It's not hopeless. I believe we have to go through all of these things; it is orchestrated and there are many many people who are just to brainwashed, but if were simply about having our service and have us as slaves...then that has already been accomplished. They're after your soul these people. It's not just one world currency and government...it's religion as well. Top of their list for a long time has been to destroy Christianity.
They're misleading us all. Don't lose faith and God bless
There are two sides of those who wish to expose the truth...one side reveals the government for what it is - satanic, and those people are killed; the other claims that the government are, yes, nasty folks whilst at the same time promoting the new one world religion and/or slating Christianity.
Having a belief doesn't mean that I do not put as much effort into exposing the wickedness in this world.
Also, belief has nothing to do with maturity; it is a perception, but thanks for the reception.
Anti-treaty posters were torn down throughout the country. Treaty opponents were shouted down by presenters when they did get on air. Opponents were called liars. The list goes on and on. This was not a free and fair referendum.
The heads of each Irish university addressed their students before the referendum and told them that a yes vote was vital for their future.
There are thousands of posters across Ireland with the words "Yes to jobs" and "yes to recovery". All but one political party came out and said that Ireland's future depended on a yes vote. It was a dirty campaign and democracy was manipulated. We'll never forget it and they'll pay for it one day.
BTW, I can't stand those useless interviewers whose only purpose is to trip their guests rather than trying to find out what they think. I agree he looked so happy about the "YES".
And when he mentions that taxpayers money have been used on behalf of the YES campaign, Mr. Farage is right. Perhaps there are a lot of activities done by the EU in our countries, but don't get deceived, they're paid by us anyway, the same as if they're done by our own gov.
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this guy knows nothing about the Irish constitution.
1) Taxpayers money was NOT spent on either side in this vote. That has been illegal in a refferendum campaign since the McKenna judgement.
2) The removal of the broadcast regulation of 50/50 airtime was in line with provisions on free speech. Private broadcasters can show what they like. That's their right. RTÉ like the BBC has a charter and conformed with this at all times.
Had to stop the video, the presenter shouldn't be in the job- I though the other BBC lot were bad but he's up there with the worst I've seen- embarrassment but also he's plain rude.
mikeypinder 2 months ago
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@mikeypinder Do you know that Christianity is correct? The world around us reveals that G-d DOES exist, and the historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth and there is overwhelming evidence that Jesus Christ really did physically rise from the dead. Jesus is coming again and the signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are coming to pass.
marionetemanJ 3 weeks ago
John Soper's a massive prick... Jeremy Paxman wannabe - You go for it Nigel Farage! Out of EU now... and see the corrupt EU and Euro crumble its tiny bits.
geography27 2 months ago
The only thing worse than the BBC is Fox. Greetings from America!
mark32811 10 months ago
If yes won sorry it won give Scotland a vote on independence
MrScottishJamie 10 months ago
What a cunt the presenter is, BBC = lying brainwashing cunts, fuck the lot of you
markryker 11 months ago
check him at 4.00 he has a hissy fit
andy0705b 11 months ago
Wow, to the uninitiated, I belonging to the great unwashed. This interviewer is a bit of a cunt. I am an American, my best interest is a weak competing euro, but I can't fault a honest "true believer".
Polyushka 11 months ago
I didnt know that we didnt have equal coverage for a yes or a no vote. I am shocked. No wonder it passed so easily.
SymonDymond 11 months ago
This tv interviewer is so ridiculously biased that he should be sacked!
bringbackmydemocracy 11 months ago 5
@bringbackmydemocracy Agreed. We pay for these people independantly of party through our taxes. I dont expect such obvious bias from the BBC. I dont know if this guy is being rude in an effort to try and make a name for himself. Taking a hostile rude tone to ask a question is not required if your asking the right questions.
SymonDymond 11 months ago
Everyone is missing the point here, we voted NO on this referendum but that vote was ignored.The politicians then had the cheek to tell us we only voted no because we didn't understand the treaty, basically calling us all ignorant. France and Holland also voted no on this treaty but the EU ignored them also
gmg44522 11 months ago 2
Oh holy fuck, if only we in Ireland had someone like this guy before all the shit hit the fan. The Eu has fucked us over big time. THEY DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT US. Why are they robbing us with those high loan interest rates? Why was our No vote ignored in the first referendum? Why are they trying to take away our 12% corporation tax? Because it's in their own interests! They want a blanket harmony tax and we are stopping that. The Eu are a shower of anti Democratic looneys
popjoeandco 11 months ago 2
Sry for this childish comparison, but it reminds me somehow of a scene out of "Starship Troopers". The scene when the scientist talked about the "brainbugs" facts, and the author hilariously tried to shout her down.
Anyone agree?
vonsalow 1 year ago
hes right cameron didnt give us a vote on the lisbon treaty next election we all need vote ukip bnp and all the smallers partys if not then time to protest until a new goverment is bought in
butchd2010 1 year ago
I've been to Ireland a couple of times this year, couldn't find a single person who voted Yes in either of the referenda. People over there told me the second vote was rigged, I'm certain they are right.
canedintotnes 1 year ago
Yes, you don't work for the British 'B' in BBC either, i suspect you Do work for a Communist C though...
ABroxz 1 year ago
The interviewer is a disgrace.
HookBellboyRecords 1 year ago
that presenter is a twat
TheRealPathFinder 1 year ago 3
"It can't be right that 3 million Irish voters can decide the future of British democracy" ( 1:43 ) - Oh how the tables have turned!
daithiolabhrai 1 year ago
Is this presenter originally hired from FOX-NEWS? Quite silly and populistic questions, which seems not to have the goal to inform,but to create opinions. The lisbon treaty is a very undemocratic and totally unnecessary thing,which will lead to shift the power from the public to a small "elite",to continiously spend more in the military,and to reduce personal freedom.Eeryone who reads most of it will realise this!The goal is clear!You remember the "swineflew-pandemic"?
HousekaterClaudio 1 year ago
You can say hello to a Unionized work which serves no other purpose than to make you angry. We have experienced this type of garbage in the Northeast of America and let me tell you, unionization breeds CORRUPTION. These people are doing this for the sole purpose of robbing you through labor.
WorstDecadeInHistory 1 year ago
the BBC's been infiltrated with Jew, Left-wing commie Marxist's controlling the power. Its like a little Te Aviv social club,.all "jobs for the boys". The BBC is clearly a racist & bigoted organisation that openly discriminated against white British people who dare say anything that contradicts their PC-brigade nutters charter.
In the last 30 years one never sees Chinese people on the BBC,.who have been in Britain as immigrants a lot longer than Blacks & Asian groups. Jews 1st, Brits 2nd
AndyBUK2006 1 year ago
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trigga1uk 1 year ago 6
Lisbon Treaty = Jobs. That's what we were told. April 2010 and still no jobs.
dsmythy 1 year ago
@dsmythy because liberals lie -that is the only way they get elected -look at Obama's dumb ass -a fucking liar
otto3663 1 year ago
More and more people are waking up to BBC bias and bullshit. Vote UKIP!!
FUN144 1 year ago 2
@neo58421964 The interviewer is paid to ask searching questions. He is not simply some 'Yes' man who should allow the person he ois interviewing to have an easy ride. But perhaps you think interviewers are only there to lick Nigel Farage's ar*e. If that's what you believe, then you are even sadder than UKIP itself.
1957Rotu 2 years ago
or better.. what WAS actually written in the "new" (insubstantially modified) lisboa contract.since the relation of its keywords to historical evolvement of the EU ideologies and their charta is highly complicated and only interpretable with a thorough, juridic background.
This is clearly stated by at least one criticist and expert: Prof. Schachenbreiter.
It's the same as if new surveillance IT technologies get pushed through over politicians, even though.. the meaning was never explained.
opleks 2 years ago
@swiftgw
The problem is simply that those making the laws in the EU are basically "self-elected".. which is in no way compatible with the principles of democracy. Does that make any sense to you?
Instead of spreading your worthless, uneducated opinion. You should really check out farager's other most courageous statements and explanations within EU discussions.
BALLS... OF... STEEL!
Also: Most people having a say during the sessions. Actually have no clue about what is actually written...
opleks 2 years ago
the presenter is a fktard, nice to see the BBC employing special people.
capncrunch93able 2 years ago
Fuck the bbc
PressOnHold 2 years ago 2
Hang the treasonous bastards!
shine350 2 years ago 5
The presenter is an absolute shit. Typical BBC hostility.
xxxToomy07 2 years ago 34
@xxxToomy07 The interviewer asked a few probing questions. Similar to the style adipted by Jeremy Paxman on many occasions. He's paid to explore the issues in depth ; not to sit there and be a 'Yes' man for whoever he is interviewing.
1957Rotu 2 years ago 2
@xxxToomy07 This what happens when there is no freedom of the press and the State runs the media -pure idiocy - liberals are idiots. Cheers Toomy07
otto3663 1 year ago
The EU is run by banks, just like the US. There is NO democracy, just the illusion of democracy. Stop believing in their sh*t.
keetlap 2 years ago 4
the whole of europe is fucked...check out project indect....an orwellian,controlled europe is under way and we can't stop it
nederwiet1 2 years ago
The interviewer is a prick!
Love take no prisoners Nigel!
cornwallgeezer 2 years ago 2
You can get turkeys to vote for xmas.
startec25 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"it can't be right for 3 million Irish voters to decide the future of Europe (and the UK)."
- N. Farage. Of course, when Ireland voted 'No', it was fine for Ireland to make such a decison. But, because we voted 'Yes' (by a 2-1 majority), "it can't be right". Farage is not exactly Mr. Consistent when it comes to his various pronouncements.
1957Rotu 2 years ago
first ireland votes no and then suddenly that switched around to yes by 2-1 - where's the real inconsistency?
arumdevil 2 years ago
The main thing is that it represented a democratic choice on the part of the Irish electorate. If we'd voted 'No' a second time, Farage would have hailed the result as a "giant victory for democracy". But, because Farage got a 'Yes' vote instead, he categorises the result as unfair and Zimbabwean. Typical Farage. Typical Farage also pronouncing on Irish Constitutional law. He's not a lawyer. And he knows sweet feck all about Irish Constitutional law.
1957Rotu 2 years ago
Do you not remember that Ireland DID vote no already?
So they keep presenting it to us until enough idiots vote yes. And guess what! Enough idiots voted yes...btw these are the same idiots who keep voting Fianna Fail and their cronies into Government...the same party who have always been raping the common worker with taxes in Ireland to feed their big fat wealthy friends. How long will the stupid Irish stay asleep?....and yes, I AM Irish...and ashamed of it
detailairbrushing 2 years ago
So all 1,205,000 'Yes' voters were Fianna Failers? Yeah, right. The reality, of course, is that they were an electic bunch of different political persuasions (as evidenced by the political affiliation section of the Lisbon " exit poll).
1957Rotu 2 years ago
All you people complain about the EU, emphasising and exagerating how undemocratic it is. But when it comes to a referendum which says 'yes' to the EU, all of a sudden you seem to hate democracy.
Do you want democracy or not?
swiftgw 2 years ago 2
i feel exactly the same as you, ashamed. probably be going abroad(outside the EU) for work next year and all these lambs that voted, i hope it come's back and kicks them up the arse.
ikeano29 2 years ago
Szufler what a load of tosh. And admac71 if you haven't met a yes voter maybe you should get out more and meet people. I'm glad that the Irish resisted the scare tactics of UKIP and the rest of the no campaign. Respect the democratic right of the Irish to change its mind on the Lisbon Treaty!
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
It was already accepted by everyone the first time other than of course the dreaded EU. So stop banging on about respecting the Irish 2nd vote!
loveEUROPEhateEU 2 years ago
We had two referendums on the divorce issue and the Irish people changed their mind the second time round. Don't you think we had the right to say yes?
padraigomairtin 2 years ago
Don't you think that the Irish had the right to say 'NO' like they did the first time. Don't you think that there demacratic vote should have been respected? Rather than told they was wrong and had to vote a second time around because there first answer wasn't good enough? Don't you think that the Irish people shouldn't have been underminded with propoganda in there schools?
loveEUROPEhateEU 2 years ago 3
Here here Padraig!It seems Nigel didn't bother to comment on the fact that in the first referendum the No side had posters everywhere and the yes side didn't even put up a fight.This time a real effort was made by the yes side and we've seen the results.
SolanoIRL09 2 years ago
"It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes".
J. Stalin
szufler 2 years ago 3
Being irish i was shocked that the yes vote was so strong , anybody that i met or spoke to on the vote was voting no. I cant believe that the yes vote got a 2 thirds majority . There is video evidence that poll boxes were being removed from counting stations , and why is it that the election result was given even with only 30% of the boxes open.
admac71 2 years ago 29
@admac71 i know dude , if that is true that they rigged the vote........well heads will have to roll down grafton street
biskalero 6 months ago
@admac71 everyone i knew voted no to it and more than that allot of people who origionally voted yes voted no just because we had to vote again ... weird
kargwain187 5 months ago
here come the middle ages. 99% cattle 1% priviledged oligarchs.
Beckyposhest 2 years ago 2
lisbon was rigged the only polling stations that had garda monitoring were the ones on tv there were no garda at any other stations and there was no excort to the counting stations the garda seriff warned all independent monitoring groups such as coir with arrest if they tryed to monitor the stations all stations reported 50-60% turnout but when they opened the boxes there was a80% turnout and every singal constituancy had a 20% increase in yes vote RIGGED!
lisbonwasriggeed 2 years ago
The Irish yes vote means that all of Europe LOST and only the EU's wealthy burocrats (Barrosso gets 230,000 Euros a year) WON.
We Europeans lost democracy,accountability and sovereignty. Now we are at the mercy of the un-elected commission's 30,000 burocrats who work around the clock to think up more regulations for us serfs to obey.
So sad that Europe has surrendered it's values to a small "elite" of failed national politicians.
George Orwell is turning in his grave.
Spenner56 2 years ago 3
Hardly at the mercy, though are we, because:
1 - We can pull out any time we want.
2 - Between them the EU parliament / Council of Ministers have to approve the laws.
3. At those two big meetings of all the EU members leaders they have each year, they effectively decide what powers the EU should or shouldn't have, their is nothing stopping them from revoking some of those powers.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
eu is great troll troll payed to type this troll troll
ZqweBSname 2 years ago 2
People are always willing to bring up history to demonstrate how badly Britain behaved. What about our recent history when we and the commonwealth stood alone against Nazi tyranny before USSR/USA got involved . Many of our cities show the scars of Blitzkreig. BTW I am not a frothing British nationalist. I have Irish blood in me just as Swedish, French, Flemish, German, Moravian but this EU model is undemocratic and I don't support any undemocratic government- national or supranational.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
No it is not. The UK model has a unelected head of state an unelected second chamber, and an unelected judiciary, What will the UKIP do about that?
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Yes but the unelected chamber is subservient to the Commons, I would like to see it abolished completely. I am not a monarchist and differ with UKIP on that too. But until we bring self-government back to our country (i.e. an elected parliament that can propose and repeal legislation)all these are moot points. The EuroParl can only suggest amendments to awful legislation proposed by the COP/Commission and they often ignore it anyway- I was an activist in EU some years ago so know this personally
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
The Commission is a federation of elected governments. It is not like the house of lords.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Oh really and how much of the electorate know the name of their Commissioners? (if they even have one after Lisbon) How many of them have a say on who they are? As I said the House of Lords is subservient to the House of Commons, the Council of Presidents and the Commission (who tend to push for big business) can bypass the parliament by agreeing between themselves. And no one but the political class elected them.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
Well do we elect our cabinet then? Do we elect our ministers of state? The political class does not elect them. The people elect the governments. You make up this stuff about the political class, to create a fake conscept of dictatorship, as if they are all from one lodge. They are merely the elcted governments of each nation.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Actually the political class do elect them (ministers of state, cabinet). The head of the party picks the cabinet. The Prime Minister approves chief judges - these tend to be the same people. The point is that even this level of indirect democracy creates risks. Now we have two supreme chambers of law making that the people do not directly elect. If you can't figure out the problem with that system then your love of Europe is eclipsing your common sense.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
It is not unelected The EU parliament is elected. The commission is a committee of representatives of elected people. That is democratic accountability. If the people do not like policies being formulated we can elected new governments. Just as we can elect a new government if we do not like what a government is doing in local seat or policy area. To claim that is tyranny is utter lies. A matrix system can be less corruptable than a direct system as you can bribe on direct chosen leader.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
This is the same system used in local councils. Will you argue against the local council system. We do not elect our PM either. Is that undemocratic? There is democratic accountability end of story. To fall back on the excuse of the "tyranny of the political class" is weak as we have the same politcal class running this country's democratic system. How does getting rid of the commissiomn get rid of our political class. You are confusing different issues.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Local councils are not appointed, they are elected directly they ORGANISE indirectly. The PM is not directly elected but most people would probably want to change this. (I have no problem with the concept of directly electing the head of state/prime minister.) Yes we do have similar political classes ruling our states but ask yourself this, when they are in control of 1 big superstate with a huge military are they going to be more or less concerned about what citizens of the provinces think?
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
There is not a "they". It is leaders from 27 different nations with different cultures, elites, languages, answerable to their electors. They have to get elected in their country. Why would they ignore their local people. There is no single political class. It is one of the advantages of the system. That unlike the UK there is no real dominant elite who all went to the same schools universiites and speak the same lingo. The UK already has a huge army, what is your issue?.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Formally 27 nations. Nations have the right to make their own laws on things like Agriculture, Fisheries, Currency, Taxation, Trade Policy, Defence Policy, Social Security, Economic Structure of Industries (public/private), Fiscal Policy, Law and Order, Education. (The things that matter to people)
They ignore local people the same way they ignored 3 referenda. Netherlands, France, Ireland.
My point was creating a superstate contains risks. Overwhelming monopoly of military force is one.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
They do not exist it is the the elected government of those nations.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Just like the old Soviet system, where the the lucky people got elections & the elected got to rubber stamp the Politburo.
The MEPs will be lost in a system in which they can blame everyone else, with the Politburo/Commission sitting omnipotent on top answerable to none.
The fact that there is already talk of financially hamstringing Eurosceptic parties is the first sign of political restriction.
This EUSSR baby is just waking up, there's lots of freedoms it has yet to strip now it has power.
Rundogz 2 years ago
Absolutely ! Judge the tree by the fruit and all that. All I have seen from the EU is mostly rotten.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
You can say the same cheap argument about the UK, or the USA, or Japan. The Commission is the ELECTED governments of each nation. How is that undemocratic. The Politburo never got elected.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Yes but the difference is the civil service do not draft the laws or didn't used to. Would you think a system where the civil service write the laws and the parliament rubber stamp them is better than a purer form of parliamentary democracy? If the EU fanatics want a federal Europe fine. Put it to the vote and let us elect a real congress and a president directly. I never voted for Fritz Bolkestein, Pat Cox, Neil Kinnock. Actually commissioners do not represent any member state.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
The Civil service do write laws. I do not want an elected president. That just means one man who can easily be corrupted. This present system is better.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
The civil service's role was usually to finetune existing legislation within parameters- not to propose major laws.
So you prefer an unelected president to an elected one? That is direct I'll grant you.
The present system. An unelected cabal in the 2 most powerful institutions, with a President whom we cannot change directly at all at the helm, and who also hold meetings in secret. How far we've come!
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
No I prefer a committee of elected people rather than one elected leader. One elected leader is more able to be a tyrant or a crook than a committee.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
They are not elected, they are appointed by Government in the same way as high court judges. That may be fine for judging on issues of already codified law, but not for a law making chamber.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
No they have to make the choice of what their elected government tell them to do.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
That is simply not true. Commissioners are not accountable to any single member state. They are each given a specific portfolio completely unrelated to their home country.
The council of presidents discard the will of national governments and parliaments even when instructed (see EU software patent/"Computer Implemented Inventions" directive for evidence of this). The same undemocratic maneuvering they used in Ireland and pretty much the same corporations. e.g. Intel, Microsoft, big business.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
You are confusing the situation with ciobnfusion over what is the commission and comissionrrs.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
Would be a little more convincing if our second chamber were elected, head of state elected, we didn't have special advisors who have more influence than all but a handful of MPs (ala A. Campbell), didn't have thousands of unelected QUANGOS forming policy or a system where MPs who know very little abut a subject are made the minister and are at the mercy of the civil service.
Not to mention a system where most MPs vote based on not upsetting their boss to get promotion.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
That may be true, but would you support those same quangos making law without any elected members' consent at all? If you have issues with the current system reform it , don't create yet another supreme class of bureaucrats that take the place of what little democracy we have left. That is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
I thought the laws the EU commission initiated required consent in various forms from the EU parliament and/or (depending on the area) from the Council of the European Union, both of which are elected.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
The Parliament is elected but only gets any kind of say during co-decision. The Council is not elected, but appointees are sent by Governments. Governments usually have to face scrutiny in national parliaments but now they send their henchmen to meet in private away from prying eyes.
The Euro-Parliament can only amend or reject proposals, they cannot propose or repeal legislation. Often their amendments are stripped out totally only giving them the option of rejecting or rubber stamping.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
You say the Council is not elected, I assume you mean specifically elected as from what I've read it usually comprises of the minister relevant to the topic from each country, so is still comprised from elected individuals.
Hence when you say "making law without any elected members' consent at all" I don't believe that to be true given those laws have to have consent from elected members.
And just to clarify I think it is far from perfect, just your statement doesn't match the facts.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
Well the commission do propose/draft the law without any input from elected representatives, they have sole right to legislative initiative.
All I can say is the next time a bit of low quality legislation threatens your sector, see how accountable these institutions are and how they discard the will of the people as they did with the referenda on the Constitution/Lisbon treaty. If you can't see the way this project is going and would rather play institutional semantics that is your prerogative.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
It isn't semantics at all, it is the difference between a dictatorship that simply hands down law to follow and laws that must be approved by some sort of democratic consent. I think that is quite an important distinction, even if you don't.
ywrtywto09 2 years ago
'In carrying out its responsibilities, the Commission shall be completely independent. Without prejudice to Article 18(2), the members of the Commission shall neither seek nor take instructions from any Government or other institution, body, office or entity'
Unaccountability defines Dictatorship.
Rundogz 2 years ago 2
That means the civil service commission. Not the ministers.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
There aren't any ministers in the commission. The commission is nothing but a civil service- one that gets to propose laws. Where are the ministers in the commission?
PravdaDeus 2 years ago 2
Quote from the Treaty ' Before proposing legislative acts, the Commission shall consult widely. Such consultations shall, where appropriate, take
into account the regional and local dimension of the action envisaged. In cases of exceptional urgency, the Commission
shall not conduct such consultations. It shall give reasons for its decision in its proposal.'
So at best they'll consult & probably ignore you & at worst just completely ignore you.
That's the freedom & democracy Ireland now has.
Rundogz 2 years ago
BBC sucks
Mithdrinker 2 years ago
Really show me where she lives.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
i voted no to lisbon,think the yes voters will live to reget it
richiewhe 2 years ago 2
British empire. = Potato famine
DO NOT NOT COMPARE IT TO THE TREATY OF LISBON.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
& doesn't that just prove the point.
The potato famine happened because Ireland was ruled by dictate by a small group of people who cared nothing for the lives and welfare of the Irish people. Just like the Tsars in Russia, or the French aristocracy or countless other elitist regimes & totalitarian states.
So why would you imagine that this EU totalitarian state will treat Ireland any differently.
Lightbulbs?, control over FOOD< JOBS< LAW< ARMY< POLICE<DEATH PENALTY, all there in Lisbon for you
Rundogz 2 years ago
Nope there was not even home rule in ireland at that time. It is not comparable in anyway.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
And how will Ireland have home rule in future now that all laws & descisions will be dictated by the EU. not be the elected Irish MEPs, you miss the fact that the EU will be run by an unelected elite who can ignore the will of the Irish.
Ireland has just signed away her soverign status, the Irish are now subject to the dictate of the EU council, sorry but that is exactly the same as in the 19th C.
Question is WHY??? Why give up what you shed blood to gain.
Freedom should never be surrendered.
Rundogz 2 years ago
So should dublin be an independent city to after all freedom should NEVER be surrendered. Go back to the provinces as nations then. After all freedom should never be surrendered.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
That's not the point as Dublin within Ireland retains some say in what happens there. Whereas Ireland within the EU will retain no say in what happens there.
This vote was about Ireland giving up democracy and accepting totalitarian rule from afar, by unelected people who care nothing for Ireland & that is why it's about giving up your freedom.
We will have in Europe the same form of Government as existed in the Soviet Union & the same as now exists in China, as far from free as we could be.
Rundogz 2 years ago 2
It is nothing like this over union grow up. You have been bitten by hysteria. It is not undemocratic it has an elected parliament and the commission is representatives of the elected governments.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
I know you Irish think we Brits are Godlike but I can assure you that we don't have the power to do God's work. The potato blight was a natural disaster, the reason for the famine was down to Irishmen continuing to export food, an even when the government brought grain from the usa, the Irish didn't wait for it to ripe and so wasted it by producing poor, low quality bread..So keep blaming the British for all YOUR problems, we all know your Church is your master and educator.
jimladx23 2 years ago
you fuckin idiot jimladx23 check your history , ireland was robed of its natural resources ,land,crops etc for 600 years.british land lords exported the crops ,while people died in their homes
richiewhe 2 years ago
Brittish people treated the Irish about as well as they treat the austrailian aboriginees....
TheSnoody 2 years ago
Aye.. about as well as the American whites have treated the American Indians, who to this day want their country back & their freedom from foreign rulers.
After all, abuse of a subjugated people is not solely a British act, it's something that has been done by people of every colour and race.
The poor of Britain suffered at the hands of their elite ruling class, the same ruling class which abused Ireland, the same ruling class from different nations that will run the EU.
Rundogz 2 years ago 2
The same ruling class that rule ireland without without the treaty so what is your point!.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
The ruling class of Ireland can be removed by vote or force by the Irish people.
The ruling unelected elite of the EU cannot be removed by vote & given that the EU now has the power to station foreign troops on Irish soil, then there is no chance of removal by force.
The 'elections' of MEPs have no purpose as the MEPs only exist to make suggestions to the Commission. The Commission is unelected by the people so you will now never know who will rule Ireland in advance.
Ripe for a new Stalin.
Rundogz 2 years ago 2
It can be. The EU parliament can remove it Plus the commission is made up of ministers from the elected government. The commission ios not like the house of lords it made up of people chosen by elected governments. Decisions in the commission are made by elected governments. Why do you support the house of lords and the monarchy which are undemocratic in every sense.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
The UK monarchy has no useable powers & therefore democratic or not it doesn't matter.
The House of Lords is little more than a rubber stamp, but it offers some check to Gov.
The EU Commission is appointed by elected official, but that still means that the EU citizens get no direct say over who has power over them.
So having fought across Europe for the right to vote in our leaders, we are now back to an elected generally corrupt elite having the means to decide who has absolute power.
Rundogz 2 years ago 2
The house of lords has total power to stop whatever laws they want. It is totally unelected and not a rubber stamp they can choose whatever they want to stop plus they can change laws.
The EU commission is made up of elected governments. The UK monarchy can decide who forms coalition governments.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
The house of lords cannot stop legislation, the Parliament Act means the Commons can push it through.
PravdaDeus 2 years ago
Not if the speaker disagrees or thee vote in the house of commons win by less than a 100. That is not a rubber stamp. That is the prevention of any law, they want. That is far less democratic than any item in your so called EUSSR.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
If any foreign troops enter Ireland then Britain will have no other option than to garrison Northern Ireland which will bring about unrest in that province. This was one of the reasons why Sinn Fein stood against the Lisburn Treaty. It's such a shame that Sinn Fein were not listened too
jimladx23 2 years ago
Rubbish. Why would french troops going to ireland make us want to defend northner ireland what are you on about? You see enemies that do not exisit.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
It is somewhat shocking that on a question of Irish independence that Sinn Fein were not listened to.
The rule from afar that led to the formation of the IRA is exactly what the EU is all about. Ironically both North and South now are in the same boat.
Ultimately there may be troops from Turkey or possibly even a N African state stationed in Ireland, with guns pointed inwards, & the people of Ireland have no means of stopping that from happening.
Rundogz 2 years ago
No The Irish can stop what ever army they want going on their land.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
There are troops from the UK in Ireland. You do not seem to mind that.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
The potato blight was britian's fault get over it. That is historical fact.
We all accept the millions who died in communist famines were killed by their governmentso you cannot ignore that is the same for british government famines. Grow up.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
first time ever the likes of someone from UKIP ever gave a crap about free will of irish people. Pity they didn't listen for 800 years...........
sideshobobby 2 years ago
Hmm 800 years ago the NORMANS invaded Ireland. Some Irish are so stuck in the past that they cant see the future & it's a disgrace that a people who have suffered living under totalitarian rule should so be forced to give up their freedom to an anti democratic empire.
The Irish are so fucked up about the British that you're missing the fucking big wolf at your door. The British Empire is dead & long gone. the EU is real and threatens the very soul of Ireland & all the people in these Isles.
Rundogz 2 years ago 4
The Potato famine hardly compares top regulations about ligt bulbs.
zzxzqwq 2 years ago
FOR 800 years...history man!! I just find it funny the way people like Mr Farage
are just SOOO concerned about Irish sovereignty all of a sudden...
sideshobobby 2 years ago
All those across Europe who value freedom, liberty & see the terrible dangers that lie in being ruled by an unelected elite, they were hoping and praying that the Irish people had the guts to stand up to the EU monster. It wasn't out of concern for the Irish, but self preservation.
And that is the bottom line in this, no-one cares about Ireland outside Ireland, no-one cares if you choose a totalitarian state, no-one will jump to protect you from you own bad choices, the Irish have to do that.
Rundogz 2 years ago
i'm irish and i agree with you about the EU big bad wolf
DuckingNDiving 2 years ago
imperial clown.....ha ha ha we even go to vote twice!!!
sideshobobby 2 years ago
The presenter is a cock
welshhibby 2 years ago 3
Given his obvious bias, the interviewer clearly IS working for the 'Corporation'! He proves Farage's point that the media is corrupt himself! I doubt that the Irish were told that any MP they vote for now will only be able to MAKE SUGGESTIONS to the unelected EU Council, which they can reject! Or that the Treaty is SELF-AMENDING which means in the future, any 'deals' that Ireland made with the EU can be thrown out of the window!! What a horrible, horrible moment in history this is.
StopBelievingTheLies 2 years ago 5
I'm the 'B' hahahahah, you endorse the BBC every time you open your biased mouth, Mr presenter.
joneselius 2 years ago 4
Ye, he is a liar...blatantly.
5to22a 2 years ago
Everyone here knows, or you should do, NOTHING is going to change, NOTHING. It never does, we're too lazy. Everyone'es lazy. No one ever does anything, no one even cares. I mean that, I expect NOTHING to happen to this EUSSR. NOTHING.
You hear that poor people (I'm one of you, but I DID do something) you're on your own now, well done, you've been fighting amongst yourself for far too long.
I am so close to giving up on people all together. Some are just too stupid.
joneselius 2 years ago
It's not hopeless. I believe we have to go through all of these things; it is orchestrated and there are many many people who are just to brainwashed, but if were simply about having our service and have us as slaves...then that has already been accomplished. They're after your soul these people. It's not just one world currency and government...it's religion as well. Top of their list for a long time has been to destroy Christianity.
They're misleading us all. Don't lose faith and God bless
5to22a 2 years ago 2
Of course that's why they gave Christianity a damn tv channel. Grow up, no invisible man is going to 'save' you..... Save yourself dammit!
joneselius 2 years ago
There are two sides of those who wish to expose the truth...one side reveals the government for what it is - satanic, and those people are killed; the other claims that the government are, yes, nasty folks whilst at the same time promoting the new one world religion and/or slating Christianity.
Having a belief doesn't mean that I do not put as much effort into exposing the wickedness in this world.
Also, belief has nothing to do with maturity; it is a perception, but thanks for the reception.
5to22a 2 years ago
Anti-treaty posters were torn down throughout the country. Treaty opponents were shouted down by presenters when they did get on air. Opponents were called liars. The list goes on and on. This was not a free and fair referendum.
christianpatriot125 2 years ago 3
the british brainswashing conspiracy. yeah he is the brainwasher not the conspiracy itself, damn repeaters.
alifico 2 years ago
The interviewer is a turd.
olsjcc 2 years ago 7
People are going to challenge the legitimacy of the referendum. Taxpayer money was spent illegally and someone should be strung up for it.
VivaLaPol 2 years ago 7
More Biased Broadcasting Corp, also when does No mean No to the EUSSR?
boucher63 2 years ago 7
The heads of each Irish university addressed their students before the referendum and told them that a yes vote was vital for their future.
There are thousands of posters across Ireland with the words "Yes to jobs" and "yes to recovery". All but one political party came out and said that Ireland's future depended on a yes vote. It was a dirty campaign and democracy was manipulated. We'll never forget it and they'll pay for it one day.
VivaLaPol 2 years ago 9
BTW, I can't stand those useless interviewers whose only purpose is to trip their guests rather than trying to find out what they think. I agree he looked so happy about the "YES".
And when he mentions that taxpayers money have been used on behalf of the YES campaign, Mr. Farage is right. Perhaps there are a lot of activities done by the EU in our countries, but don't get deceived, they're paid by us anyway, the same as if they're done by our own gov.
viaductos 2 years ago 2
Down with the EU!
NoEUnoNWO 2 years ago 6
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this guy knows nothing about the Irish constitution.
1) Taxpayers money was NOT spent on either side in this vote. That has been illegal in a refferendum campaign since the McKenna judgement.
2) The removal of the broadcast regulation of 50/50 airtime was in line with provisions on free speech. Private broadcasters can show what they like. That's their right. RTÉ like the BBC has a charter and conformed with this at all times.
Shaneyh 2 years ago
About the point nº2. That fact doesn't mean that is fair or logic. He is entitled to complain about the media regulations.
viaductos 2 years ago
he is, as our independent media is entitled to take its own view
Shaneyh 2 years ago
The EU funded the YES campaign. EU money is TAXPAYER MONEY.
krayzeeryan 2 years ago 6
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Taxpayers money was NOT spent on either side in this vote. That has been illegal in a refferendum campaign since the McKenna judgement
Shaneyh 2 years ago
your extremely naive to believe that.
krayzeeryan 2 years ago
The EU funded BOTH SIDES of the campaign because the EU exists to promote democracy.
UKIP got money from the European parliament to send an 8 page document to every household in Ireland. I got one.
Shaneyh 2 years ago
Is he still leader?
northanortha 2 years ago
hes leader until a new one is elected.
krayzeeryan 2 years ago 2
That BBC presenter seems to me to be a total idiot.
asmodeus585 2 years ago 12
Sorry for lip sync, Youtube encoded the the video so video and audio it doesn't match,
liarpoliticians 2 years ago