Skeptal we never went to Iraq to (win) we are there because the cease fire agreement was violated and therefore the war is back ongoing. When Iraq government is up and running -- we leave.
What a bunch of BS or should I say (BObama). It's pretty easy for some Jack Ass (I mean Democrat) to say the McCain said...blah blah blah. Let's see the real thing rather than some idiot blabbing his fool head off.
Keyjens is right, shame we dont realise that we helped create this siuation / war. We're all hypocritical as countrys (governments). Big debate, not enough room on You tube!
And personally, I think he was making a very safe estimate because the way things are going there now it will probably be sooner.
McCain has been 100% consistent that the situation determines the drawdown, not a clock.
Both Dem candidates were wrong about opposing the surge and had they got their way Iraq would have been lost and a disaaster for the US and victory for global jihad would have happened instead of the success Iraq is becoming and AQ defeated.
Ominous24: the war in Iraq was never about AQI. In fact, it was because of Bush that AQI appeared in Iraq and Iran started asserting it's influence. Now the Iraq government wants US troops out and still McCain is against time table for withdrawal. Isn't Iraq a soverign country?
TheYoungCommunist is a liar. McCain was saying that our goals will be accomplished by then allowing a major withdrawal. I wouldn't expect a leftist to understand the difference between that and the Dem positions. Nor would I expect the leftist to be honest about it if he did.
No wait, its not a timetable, its a projection!! HA HA. You know what, the 'liberal' media will let McCain ride on this until November while picking on Obama for the friends he has.
It was not a timetable is a hope. He was given an ad saying if I am president all this will be accomplished, it is not saying that by 2013 we will pull out. He was saying by 2013 the war will be won by my leadership. Do you heave ears? Do you have a brain?
Do you have integrity? Do you have a conscience? McCain, along with the rest of the Right, have been calling Democrats cowards and terrorist supporters for over a year because they have been asking for the same thing. A benchmark: a standard by which victory/progress can be measured. A timetable: an anticipated projection for those benchmarks. How is this different? Because someone you support said it. Not good enough.
Try to police the world? We created this (UK US etc). We sold them weapons etc. There's going to be no winner at the end of this so called 'war against terrorism'. We created this situation, shame we fail to realise this.
America has no legitimate interests in the ME, they don't live there and have no stake other than to keep everyone WEAK so Israel can walk all over them. There is only one acceptable solution: Israeli unilateral return of all occupied territories and an end to meddling in the internal affairs of other states; an end to it's idiotic threats and pursuit of regional hegemony; the complete withdrawal of US military, troops, bases, ships, everything, from the ME. There is nothing else to talk about.
Defend the dictatorships backed by your criminal government thugs all you want, but that would include Saddam Hussein, Noriega, the Shah, Pinochet and thousands of more torturers, terrorists, dictators, fascists, Nazis. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed the Kurds when he did it. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed Iran when he did. And somehow it was no problem for the US when Hussein asked them whether taking Kuweit would lead to intervention.
Defend the dictatorships backed by your criminal government thugs all you want, but that would include Saddam Hussein, Noriega, the Shah, Pinochet and thousands of more torturers, terrorists, dictators, fascists, Nazis. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed the Kurds when he did it. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed Iran when he did. No problem for the US when Hussein asked them whether taking Kuweit would lead to intervention.
Please explain how going from "we can't set a timetable or the enemy will wait us out, that's the first rule of waging war" to "I'm setting a timetable, we leave in 2013" is not the most monumental flip flop ever.
huahuahua :) great point with liberators!:)) hell yeah:)) Has anyone seen any Iraqian screaming with joy of the freedom that has been brought? Even if so (say some were forced to say so), it should be definitely questioned if the Americans would like to pay and die for delivering some overseas eastern country freedom even if it's not going to pay off with oil? Considering no one has ordered this delivery?
people everywhere- from all parties- figured saddam was rebuilding the bomb that israel knocked out earlier since he was refusing to cooperate with the inspections.. he was warned that many nations would inspect by force even if that meant war..
but saddam seen the liberal protesters in america chanting "no war no war no war"- and called the bluff..
liberals are so stupid they are america's biggest liability..
Whatever Mr. 20%-er. People all over the world and here in the US knew the Bush Admin was lying. They knew Iraq was no threat. McCain admitted recently (on camera) that the Iraq war was launched in order to take control of their oil. Our biggest liability isn't the people of the US, it's the debt that we owe to the Chinese who fund the occupation. Take away the "stupid liberals" and who's gonna pay all that money back?
doubletalk mcbush will say anything to be what he wants his whole life, the president of the united states of america. being a relic as he surely is, this is his last claim to fame. fuck! he wants so badly, he even sold his soul. do you want another soulless liar in the white house?
Come on, now. I'm sure if you'd've ask any Republican candidate when the war will be "won" they'd've said "by the end of my first term." Anyone would say it. It just sounds good, just like can anyone can say "no new taxes." That's how election promises work. Yet he's afraid to set a withdrawl date for 2013...how sad. I'm just dissapointed that McCain forgot to mention that he'd bring peace to Middle East and erase poverty and have people driving cars that run on water by 2013.
Who says he is going to have a first term?I hope he only mispoke and what he really intended to say was by November ending,which will be the end of his 15 minutes of fame.
Be honest, you can't expect John McCain or J-Mac to remember what he said. The guy's old. He has "senior moments" like that the giant red button under his desk isn't to call the nurse
Lets be honest, McCain ain't going to do shit. McCain's just giving these lies so people will actually listen to him. I find it funny the republican party lists a date or goes towards a date they are no longer in office, funny how that is, if McCain gets elected again, he'd say 2017. People I hope your bullshit detectors are going off big time like mine is. Only the Democrats can hopefully stop this bullshit war, save our soldiers, pull out of Iraq and God damn the assholes who started this war.
So far the straight-talk express has flip-flopped on right wing religious extremism, torture, immigration, the use of several sleezy campaign tactics, and a lot of other stuff. Pretty soon, it will be easier to list the few items on which McCain has remained consistent.
Cenk, stop using the term flip-flopping. In this case with McCain it's just outright lying. How can we trust someone to lead our country when he'll say damn near anything about one of the main hot topics of the campaign?
You know what this is...a direct result of the Republicans losing the House Seat in Redneck County, Mississippi. The Republicans saw that they HAVE to change their stance or else they'll lose damn near every election come Nov.
Yea, now we out of there bitch.. say something now
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melanimadavi 10 months ago
No democrats never flip flop there hole campaign is base on a lies Richard whisky
1huntingdog 2 years ago
Skeptal we never went to Iraq to (win) we are there because the cease fire agreement was violated and therefore the war is back ongoing. When Iraq government is up and running -- we leave.
dpdoeoo 3 years ago
This guy it clueless on the subject of offshore drilling..
MaritimeSecurity 3 years ago
If McCain is elected Iran is toast.
ClunkityClunk4Truth 3 years ago
McCain is going to drop dead under the pressure of the election.
tbgx1 3 years ago
McCain has flipped on every issue from torture to gun control.
Nicholai420 3 years ago 5
Republicans should get their Nose of Barack Obamas ass they are following everything he says because Barack Obama is a TRUE Commander In Chief.
McCain has no position in Iraq other than doing what Barack Obama says.
Whos the expert on foreign policy: BARACK OBAMA
McCain Flip Flop on Iraq, was against time tables before he was for them.
McCain Flip Flop On Afghanisan, he was against more troops before he was for them.
And he will Flip Flop in talking to Iran just wait.
FLIP FLOP MCFOOL LOL
LordXmen2k 3 years ago
What a bunch of BS or should I say (BObama). It's pretty easy for some Jack Ass (I mean Democrat) to say the McCain said...blah blah blah. Let's see the real thing rather than some idiot blabbing his fool head off.
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ssj5me 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
Let it not be said that no one cared, once we knew what was at stake.
borgman47 3 years ago
How exactly do we win in this war?
Skeptical17 3 years ago 4
Keyjens is right, shame we dont realise that we helped create this siuation / war. We're all hypocritical as countrys (governments). Big debate, not enough room on You tube!
BespinBob 3 years ago
Mccain has as much desire to leave Iraq as Cheney . we will rot there another 4 yrs under Mccain NOTHING will change
ArizonaMtKingsnake 3 years ago 2
FUCK WAR!!!!!
ron pauls the only true person out there that wont brain wash us like every1 else but will be able to free us
420bmxer 3 years ago 2
McCain makes Kerry look consistent.
zombiesoiree 3 years ago 2
McCain is total flip flopper. Check out my thrilling one minute video showing what McCain would have to deal with.
pabunko 3 years ago 2
McCain is way in the middle on this.
FreeAgain2 3 years ago
(Following my post below)
And personally, I think he was making a very safe estimate because the way things are going there now it will probably be sooner.
McCain has been 100% consistent that the situation determines the drawdown, not a clock.
Both Dem candidates were wrong about opposing the surge and had they got their way Iraq would have been lost and a disaaster for the US and victory for global jihad would have happened instead of the success Iraq is becoming and AQ defeated.
Omnious24 3 years ago
Ominous24: the war in Iraq was never about AQI. In fact, it was because of Bush that AQI appeared in Iraq and Iran started asserting it's influence. Now the Iraq government wants US troops out and still McCain is against time table for withdrawal. Isn't Iraq a soverign country?
mrbronze013 3 years ago 2
TheYoungCommunist is a liar. McCain was saying that our goals will be accomplished by then allowing a major withdrawal. I wouldn't expect a leftist to understand the difference between that and the Dem positions. Nor would I expect the leftist to be honest about it if he did.
Omnious24 3 years ago
No wait, its not a timetable, its a projection!! HA HA. You know what, the 'liberal' media will let McCain ride on this until November while picking on Obama for the friends he has.
eirefrance 3 years ago
Everyone knew all the militants would
go to Iraq to fight America.
Liberals and Democrats will once again
praise Bush and Rice for their courage
in going after Saddam and also fighting
"the mother of all battles" with the militants..
After five years of battle most of the militants
are gone and Saddam is gone..
Now let's have peace in the world- please
join us and pass along this message.
az101010 3 years ago
Wow, how long did it take you to come up with that.
Oh, just five seconds to copy and paste it from your channel page.
megagrey 3 years ago
It was not a timetable is a hope. He was given an ad saying if I am president all this will be accomplished, it is not saying that by 2013 we will pull out. He was saying by 2013 the war will be won by my leadership. Do you heave ears? Do you have a brain?
CzarPeter727 3 years ago
Do you have integrity? Do you have a conscience? McCain, along with the rest of the Right, have been calling Democrats cowards and terrorist supporters for over a year because they have been asking for the same thing. A benchmark: a standard by which victory/progress can be measured. A timetable: an anticipated projection for those benchmarks. How is this different? Because someone you support said it. Not good enough.
eirefrance 3 years ago
I hate to say it, but we reap what we sow.
Try to police the world? We created this (UK US etc). We sold them weapons etc. There's going to be no winner at the end of this so called 'war against terrorism'. We created this situation, shame we fail to realise this.
keyzjenz 3 years ago 3
2013 wasn't a timetable you fat fuckface, it was his hope
NJRocks281 3 years ago
America has no legitimate interests in the ME, they don't live there and have no stake other than to keep everyone WEAK so Israel can walk all over them. There is only one acceptable solution: Israeli unilateral return of all occupied territories and an end to meddling in the internal affairs of other states; an end to it's idiotic threats and pursuit of regional hegemony; the complete withdrawal of US military, troops, bases, ships, everything, from the ME. There is nothing else to talk about.
trakkaton 3 years ago
trakkaton-
those were our friends in kuwait that saddam was killing you idiot..
az101010 3 years ago
Defend the dictatorships backed by your criminal government thugs all you want, but that would include Saddam Hussein, Noriega, the Shah, Pinochet and thousands of more torturers, terrorists, dictators, fascists, Nazis. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed the Kurds when he did it. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed Iran when he did. And somehow it was no problem for the US when Hussein asked them whether taking Kuweit would lead to intervention.
trakkaton 3 years ago
yeah saddam was a problem and that's why he got hanged.. duh
az101010 3 years ago
All we all did rejoice.
Doesn't mean I'm letting the Repubs off the hook about an ill-planned war that was built on a lie though.
megagrey 3 years ago
megagrey- see my profile about republicans and democrats..
az101010 3 years ago
I repeat:
Defend the dictatorships backed by your criminal government thugs all you want, but that would include Saddam Hussein, Noriega, the Shah, Pinochet and thousands of more torturers, terrorists, dictators, fascists, Nazis. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed the Kurds when he did it. And somehow it was no problem for the US that Hussein gassed Iran when he did. No problem for the US when Hussein asked them whether taking Kuweit would lead to intervention.
trakkaton 3 years ago
This commentary is based on IRREFUTABLE FACTS.
This is suitable for being on national television goddam it! Why doesn't somebody on CNN have the balls to say this?
politicalfarce 3 years ago
politicalfarce-
because it's a bunch of crap that's why..
az101010 3 years ago
Please explain how going from "we can't set a timetable or the enemy will wait us out, that's the first rule of waging war" to "I'm setting a timetable, we leave in 2013" is not the most monumental flip flop ever.
Again, please explain.
politicalfarce 3 years ago
huahuahua :) great point with liberators!:)) hell yeah:)) Has anyone seen any Iraqian screaming with joy of the freedom that has been brought? Even if so (say some were forced to say so), it should be definitely questioned if the Americans would like to pay and die for delivering some overseas eastern country freedom even if it's not going to pay off with oil? Considering no one has ordered this delivery?
odugurlu 3 years ago
Well, there were reports of people saying "thank you Mr. Bush" right after the Saddam statue was toppled....
And it was later revealed to be a VNR.
megagrey 3 years ago
theres a difference between a time table and a goal you moron.
wheelnchef 3 years ago
yeah go ahead and try to cover up this message because you know it's true..
az10101010 3 years ago
SECURITY COUNCIL HOLDS IRAQ IN 'MATERIAL BREACH' OF DISARMAMENT OBLIGATIONS,
OFFERS FINAL CHANCE TO COMPLY, UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTING RESOLUTION 1441 (2002)
don't you fruitcakes feel just a little bit stupid fucking things up like you did
and causing saddam to think bush would listen to your dumb asses about no war no war?
none of this would have happened if you liberal bitches would have shut the fuck up..
and now you bitches are lying about it saying bush wanted war anyway..
az10101010 3 years ago
i agree completely
ebtricks 3 years ago
Mc-flipflop!!!Mctoo-old!!!
JUNIOR4YOU 3 years ago
people everywhere- from all parties- figured saddam was rebuilding the bomb that israel knocked out earlier since he was refusing to cooperate with the inspections.. he was warned that many nations would inspect by force even if that meant war..
but saddam seen the liberal protesters in america chanting "no war no war no war"- and called the bluff..
liberals are so stupid they are america's biggest liability..
az101010 3 years ago
Whatever Mr. 20%-er. People all over the world and here in the US knew the Bush Admin was lying. They knew Iraq was no threat. McCain admitted recently (on camera) that the Iraq war was launched in order to take control of their oil. Our biggest liability isn't the people of the US, it's the debt that we owe to the Chinese who fund the occupation. Take away the "stupid liberals" and who's gonna pay all that money back?
p12psicop 3 years ago
NO-BAMA
k9liny 3 years ago
"The Mother of All Flip-Flops" FTW!
jeffreymcneill 3 years ago
I've never seen such a big flip-flopper as McInsane.
AND TO THINK SOME PPL CALLED KERRY A FLIP-FLOPPER - NO ONE CAN BEAT MCINSANE!
DillonX 3 years ago 2
While you take it up the ass from George Soros - do you let him have a reach around?
I am sure your mom taught you well so I am guessing yes. By the way because mom liked to be fisted you need not feel obliged.
RayBoylan 3 years ago
McWhore is the King of Flip-flops!
voyzovrezon 3 years ago 3
McCain been hang with Amy Winehouse
BileMat65 3 years ago
doubletalk mcbush will say anything to be what he wants his whole life, the president of the united states of america. being a relic as he surely is, this is his last claim to fame. fuck! he wants so badly, he even sold his soul. do you want another soulless liar in the white house?
MojoJuana 3 years ago 3
Pretty soon, McCain will be like Senator Obama and I are very similar on policy. He is such a flip flopper.
rainsan 3 years ago
Come on, now. I'm sure if you'd've ask any Republican candidate when the war will be "won" they'd've said "by the end of my first term." Anyone would say it. It just sounds good, just like can anyone can say "no new taxes." That's how election promises work. Yet he's afraid to set a withdrawl date for 2013...how sad. I'm just dissapointed that McCain forgot to mention that he'd bring peace to Middle East and erase poverty and have people driving cars that run on water by 2013.
sonisisuper 3 years ago 2
Who says he is going to have a first term?I hope he only mispoke and what he really intended to say was by November ending,which will be the end of his 15 minutes of fame.
beteck123 3 years ago
Be honest, you can't expect John McCain or J-Mac to remember what he said. The guy's old. He has "senior moments" like that the giant red button under his desk isn't to call the nurse
GerardMontague 3 years ago 4
Lets be honest, McCain ain't going to do shit. McCain's just giving these lies so people will actually listen to him. I find it funny the republican party lists a date or goes towards a date they are no longer in office, funny how that is, if McCain gets elected again, he'd say 2017. People I hope your bullshit detectors are going off big time like mine is. Only the Democrats can hopefully stop this bullshit war, save our soldiers, pull out of Iraq and God damn the assholes who started this war.
darkfiredog 3 years ago 4
100 years in Iraq.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
So far the straight-talk express has flip-flopped on right wing religious extremism, torture, immigration, the use of several sleezy campaign tactics, and a lot of other stuff. Pretty soon, it will be easier to list the few items on which McCain has remained consistent.
FeelFreeToArgue 3 years ago
McCain didn't get tortured enough, IMO.
chunksloth 3 years ago 2
If you true conservative are tired of this flip-floping neo con bullshit, vote Ron Paul.
The only TRUE conservative that's aainst the war.
He is the ONLY chance for the conservatives to win the white house b/c McCain does't have a snowball's chance in hell.
flclfanman 3 years ago 3
The sad thing is that voters will fall for it.
megagrey 3 years ago 3
Mcflipflop
Steadno 3 years ago 5
FLIP FUCKEN FLOPPER SAW IT COMMING
callawaygolf 3 years ago 4
Cenk, stop using the term flip-flopping. In this case with McCain it's just outright lying. How can we trust someone to lead our country when he'll say damn near anything about one of the main hot topics of the campaign?
You know what this is...a direct result of the Republicans losing the House Seat in Redneck County, Mississippi. The Republicans saw that they HAVE to change their stance or else they'll lose damn near every election come Nov.
swaggajee 3 years ago 4
Will McCain make it to 2013?
laura835 3 years ago 13
rofl
rafael28 3 years ago
Fucking Republicans...
luisjrea 3 years ago 3