@gopconservative78, if press reports are to be believed right, Mr Parkinson voted against proposed legislation to liberalise abortion time limits, yet is alleged to have urged his mistress to terminate her pregnancy, i'd say that was grounds to resign his cabinet position sir/madam !!
@gopconservative78 Well it would seem rather immoral to have someone with as widely published a sex scandal as his to remain in such a high-profile job.
Still, still didn't stop him from retuning to the Thatcher cabinet soon afterwards.
@gopconservative78 I wouldn't generalise all Europeans, as us Europeans have personalities that vary just as much as American citizens.
Many do, that's one of the more important reasons why the 1979-1997 Conservative government took such a landslide-pasting at the 1997. Many of John Major's MPs were being naughty behind their wives' backs. There were other scandals, such as cash for questions etc, then there was a feeling of arrogance in the Conservative party at the time . . .
@AidanLunn I thought that after the 1992 election (which was a squeaker and Major should have lost) when the ERM mess and 1 million people being thrown out of their homes would destroy the Tories (which it did) and not all the sex scandals that brought the Tory government, and I quote from William Hague "18 years of Conservative Crashing down all around our ears".
@gopconservative78 The ERM debacle was probably another factor, but I don't consider this to be a factor as it was five years before their mass-defeat, and the UK Economy was in the best condition that Labour ever inherited by 1997.
The main reasons, were corruption, sleaze and sex scandals - heaps upon heaps of them!
Also, after 18 years, the public had gotten bored of the Tories, abnd John Major looked staid and old-fashioned and *very* boring compared to Tony Blair, who was the opposite.
@gopconservative78 Also, another major reason were deep splits in the Tory party over virtually every policy they had (especially on the European Union) and John Major being a very weak leader, unlike both hiis predecessor and his successor.
@AidanLunn That was a major factor and Labour took complete advantage of it but a 178 seat loss and complete wipeout in Scotland was stunning, here across the pond tomorrow the GOP will wipe the Democrats off the map, should be fun
Anyone else Cecil P looks slimy?
iberkeley 6 months ago
@gopconservative78, if press reports are to be believed right, Mr Parkinson voted against proposed legislation to liberalise abortion time limits, yet is alleged to have urged his mistress to terminate her pregnancy, i'd say that was grounds to resign his cabinet position sir/madam !!
MCH42PLUS1 8 months ago
Cecil Parkinson, I don't know why the sex scandal robbed him for his Cabinet Post
gopconservative78 1 year ago
@gopconservative78 Well it would seem rather immoral to have someone with as widely published a sex scandal as his to remain in such a high-profile job.
Still, still didn't stop him from retuning to the Thatcher cabinet soon afterwards.
AidanLunn 1 year ago
@AidanLunn in the USA well he will destroy a political figure, but I thought the Europeans didn't care about personal sex scandals......
gopconservative78 1 year ago
@gopconservative78 I wouldn't generalise all Europeans, as us Europeans have personalities that vary just as much as American citizens.
Many do, that's one of the more important reasons why the 1979-1997 Conservative government took such a landslide-pasting at the 1997. Many of John Major's MPs were being naughty behind their wives' backs. There were other scandals, such as cash for questions etc, then there was a feeling of arrogance in the Conservative party at the time . . .
AidanLunn 1 year ago
@AidanLunn I thought that after the 1992 election (which was a squeaker and Major should have lost) when the ERM mess and 1 million people being thrown out of their homes would destroy the Tories (which it did) and not all the sex scandals that brought the Tory government, and I quote from William Hague "18 years of Conservative Crashing down all around our ears".
gopconservative78 1 year ago
@gopconservative78 The ERM debacle was probably another factor, but I don't consider this to be a factor as it was five years before their mass-defeat, and the UK Economy was in the best condition that Labour ever inherited by 1997.
The main reasons, were corruption, sleaze and sex scandals - heaps upon heaps of them!
Also, after 18 years, the public had gotten bored of the Tories, abnd John Major looked staid and old-fashioned and *very* boring compared to Tony Blair, who was the opposite.
AidanLunn 1 year ago
@gopconservative78 Also, another major reason were deep splits in the Tory party over virtually every policy they had (especially on the European Union) and John Major being a very weak leader, unlike both hiis predecessor and his successor.
AidanLunn 1 year ago
@AidanLunn That was a major factor and Labour took complete advantage of it but a 178 seat loss and complete wipeout in Scotland was stunning, here across the pond tomorrow the GOP will wipe the Democrats off the map, should be fun
gopconservative78 1 year ago
Good on you Denis, let us mock the failed SDP
Lab356 1 year ago
"There have been no personalities involved..."
Freudian slip?
Myndir 1 year ago
Austin Mitchell only just holds Great Grimsby, as he did in 2010 and 1977 (no declaration shown). Lab hold Dunfermline East (that's Gordon Brown).
Cecil Parkinson holds Hertsmere.
A lot of SDP defectors losing their seats. Shirley Williams' result in Crosby coming through at the end.
The forecast looks very accurate again.
swanarcadian 1 year ago