From seed to loaf (part 2 of 2) allotment scale production of bread making wheat

[fannybaba]

Does anyone know of any importers of small threshing machines? lots on alibaba.com.

all chinese and Indian, some foot operated also, It might be worthwhile for someone to import a few if enough people were interested, I wouldnt know how to go about this.

[txroye]

How long does your crop last you? Do you bake often?

[TheRealTrojanGoat]

Informative video, thankyou. I just wonder, how much flour you can actually produce from such a small area? Would you say this is a worthwhile crop in itself or is it just a more productive use of space rather than leaving the land fallow?

[TheHappyRagequitter]

Awsome video! Im planning to plant some wheat, potatoes and lettuce as I get my own house :)

[BringBack500s]

Excellent 2 part 'how to' there, well done.

And I'd guess that bread tastes so damn good!

[GreeneyesInCali]

Delightful, informative and encouraging. I can't help but think this video covers so many questions with such concise explaination. Thank you. I will be growing wheat this season.... the question now is what type of seed to get?

[Talentedtongueoo7]

interesting

[robertsmi9]

I love your video, you sir are living the life that I am wanting. I would love to leave the fast pace of living in town and being dependent of the stores to supply me with chemicaly induced foods. "What I call legal poison." Please keep doing what you do and god bless you.

[Aberamentho2010]

What type of wheat do you recommend growing for making bread?

Wonderful vid by the way!

[seedtray1]

@Aberamentho2010 I do not know which part of the USA you are from but I think it best to contact local farmers or your extension service. Here are two sources that may help you. extensionDOToregonstateDOTedu/­sorec/growing-grains-small-far­m & northerngraingrowersDOTorg

[1820ecape]

Really enjoyed your clips, what I really liked is your machines, in particular the2 wheel tractor but really that thrasher! But all ur gear right down to the wheat dryer. Reading some of the comments it was really interest to see your cost break , again well done. Just as a matter of interest I was wondering if one had to convert some of the wheat in to 200 proof alcohol to run the machines how many loaves would be lost? Looking forward to see result and comment

[seedtray1]

@1820ecape Thank you for your comment, I am looking at human powered machines as I don’t think it right to convert annual grain crops into fuel. Growing oilseed crops (sunflowers & oil seed rape) produces around 80 gallons per acre and 20% of the farmland is required to produce bio diesel for agricultural operations. This is about the same area that was required to keep horses when farming was horse powered.

[seedtray1]

@1820ecape continued . The major differences being tractors don’t give birth to baby tractors and horse powered farming requires more labour (a useful job creation scheme?). It all gets complicated but there are many issues around the destructive effects of growing large areas of monoculture annual crops leading to deserts of biodiversity and eventually true deserts. If (in the future) 60% of farmland were in mixed perennial crops and trees, I wonder if wood gas would be a better bio fuel? .

[seedtray1]

@1820ecape continued. Again, it all comes back to the management, harvesting wood has to be on a sustainable basis and even then, some of the cut wood has to be left for the fungi and insects.

[epsombristol]

Excellent production

[staba69]

How much it cost you to produce 1 loaf ? It have to be expensive all that time of work, petrol , electricity and some products... £5 loaf ?

[seedtray1]

@staba69 Thank you, this is an important question. I have tried to do a very rough estimate for a 25m2 yielding 50 loaves. Labour requirements are; planting 1 hr, weeding ½ hr, harvesting 3 hrs, threshing & cleaning 3 1/2 hrs = total 8 hrs @ £7.00 = £56.00. Rent £ 9.50, petrol £ 3.00 & depreciation of equipment over 20 years £ 25.00. The total annual costs are £ 93.50 divided by 50 loaves = £ 1.87 per loaf, plus whatever it costs for baking, which would bring the cost to over £2.00 per loaf.

[seedtray1]

@staba69 Continued: In economic terms, this is a very inefficient system - if you have a job and no free time. However, if you enjoy the outdoors and do not include labour costs I think it works out to £0.90 to £1.10 per loaf, depending on how you use your oven.The other benefit I get is the straw, which is used as mulch for vegetables. I am looking at ways to remove the petrol from the production process; your shop bought bread is of course dripping in oil.In the end,

[seedtray1]

@staba69Continued: I guess it depends on what you value; the extra knowledge and resilience gained by growing your own wheat or, extra free time and higher dependence on others for your daily bread.

[JustPlainBored00]

SO COOL! Im going to plant some wheat right now in my room:)

[33fatbelly]

Hi I have just watched your video and found it very interesting I too have an allotment and try to be self sufficient in as much produce as possible. Your Wheat growing and Bread making is a credit to you Well Done

[penkatshi]

Wonderful video! Cheers!

[GardenDavesProjects]

Hi, cool video. Does that class as plain flour? You used the thrashing thing to rid the chaff...if I ground the chaff would that make it whole wheat? Sorry if thats a stupid question, I'm just confused with your comment to LovelyLady. If that is whole wheat, what is plain?

Thanks again. Great videos.

[seedtray1]

@GardenDavesProjects Hi there, threshing is the process of removing the wheat grains from the ear of wheat. Think of the chaff as tiny leaves that surround the wheat grain when it is held in the ear. You get rid of the chaff because you only want the wheat grain. Whole meal flour is made by grinding the whole of the grain, where as white flour has the bran (or skin of the grain) removed. Hope this helps.

[ckom9]

I loved this, thanks.

[tilestyles]

Thumbs up and thanks for sharing. It looks like just as much work as I had thought was. ;) Looks like good bread too.

[romanbrough]

Best "How to" video I have seen in months. well done.

[rhondasommer1]

My 7 year old boy has been wondering about how to make wheat for years. We just came upon this with his little brother and all really enjoyed watching it. So much hard work involved! Thank you for posting.

[TubeFrankM]

Very good, that was fun to watch and inspirational to keep me adding more to my garden.... Thank You

[aletoledo1]

I've always wanted to grow my own wheat.

[TheLovelyLadyE]

How much seed did you grind to produce the bowl of flour? Thanks again for these videos.

[seedtray1]

@TheLovelyLadyE Thank you for your comments; I make whole meal bread so 600 grams of wheat seed equals 600 grams of flour

[stormbytes]

Absolutely fantastic video! WOw... In all my years only now do I understand how to make flour! Thank you kind sir for taking the time to make this!

[jessesenko]

This is great! Thank you.

[OnELovEBEliEvE]

outstanding!



[michaelplesch]

thanks for sharing your skills with me

[Shangrii66]

where can i get wheat seeds? I live in north/east scotland

[seedtray1]

@Shangrii66 Try contacting Brokewell hyphen bake DOT org DOT uk

[turbojosh3285]

@Shangrii66 Dad bought a bag of wheat seeds from a health food store to grind his own flour for some nostalgia. He gave me a handful to try and grow today.

[Shangrii66]

@prueseales

I planted my wheat 2 weeks ago and it is all through now. It isn't too late and my dad is a farmer. Just copy the seeding and watch out for birds (I had such a BAD problem of birds) Good luck

[boxa888]

@Shangrii66 how about this week, still got time to plant wheat?? got honey bees and such to speed up the pollination process which should take some time off the cosmic clock lol.

[TheWaldorock]

how do you save seeds for next years planting

[seedtray1]

@TheWaldorock Just keep some of the harvest for planting next year, store it in a glass jar or tin in a cool dry place.

[Tackdriver4000]

Damn good job mate!

[prueseales]

We have found this video to be very helpful as we want to grow our own wheat for the first time. But I have been told that we are now too late to sow any wheat. Is this correct? You sow yours in the third week of March, but right now it is the beginning of April. Can we still sow it now and get a crop? We live in the Netherlands, so don't think there is too much difference in the climate. Thank you for making such a helpful video. Would love to get one of those push hoes too.

[seedtray1]

@prueseales Thank you for your comment, it is not too late to plant in April but the sooner you plant the better, enjoy the adventure

[boxa888]

@seedtray1 what do you think about may??? lol. love the video want to try wheat as well this year

[seedtray1]

@boxa888 Spring wheat planting time would depend on which part of the USA you are from. I think the northern states plant April-May for a August-September harvest. I think it best to check with local farmers.

[boxa888]

@seedtray1 thanks alot! i give all credit to you and really appreciate the great work you do! i have watched this in amazement so many times! you really help people like myself! yea i planted a few days ago, its about the same area as you have i would say, what was the total amount from the harvest, about 1 plastic storage container?? thank you!

[seedtray1]

@boxa888 one and a half as shown in the video

[blacklabflies]

Thank you for your video. I planted a plot of wheat last year and have been enjoying bread all winter from it. It is a lot of work but worth it. I need to make a thresher this year as I am going to expand a little. Thanks again for a very informative video.

[seedtray1]

@blacklabflies Great to hear from you, I can email you what I have put together so far so you can start the build

[blacklabflies]

Thank you for your video. I planted a plot of wheat last year and have been enjoying bread all winter from it. It is a lot of work but worth it. I need to make a thresher this year as I am going to expand a little.  Thanks again for a very informative video.

[MrNewaccount101]

Really excellent video.

[DumpYourTelevision]

Great fun, but you used factory yeast!

I am sure it would be great fun if you had cultivated your own yeast from the grain you had harvested?

Very inspiring in anycase :o)

[mphello]

I've always wanted to see wheat from seed to loaf. Great job!

Now that I've seen it - GOOD GRIEF! No wonder we need modern machinery and big collective agriculture to produce wheat! Humans would starve from starvation before getting to eat it. What a colossal effort!  :)

[Vladivostok41]

You are an inspiration

[MrUAV100]

10 out of 10 for this video. I recently started looking at grwoing wheat, fortunate to have the space in the middle of the countryside, so this really has inspired me and also helped with the knowledge of how to do this. All we need now is good UK weather.

Thanks for sharing your work.

[ryuson2000]

mmmmmm steamed bread, delicious!

[BluSUBsound]

absolutely amazing videos. how much pieces of this size bread did you get from that size allotment(roughly)? thank you

[brucebrucelois]

Sir, that was very insightful and shows how we should all have an understanding of where and how food is produced to stop mindless wastage. Thank you.

[makehimhealthy]

Beautiful... Nice work! Thank you for sharing. I felt happy just watching your videos.

[jwalk1014]

I just planted my winter wheat a couple days ago (garden plot) This video was extremely motivating for me. A good book for anyone interested is " backyard grains"

[cincylucy]

Thanks for this video. Very well done! I'll try to grow wheat next year.

[Sheila6325]

Your video is wonderful, thank you so much for sharing it with the world. I just received my wheat for next year, and reading about the methods of planting it, has gotten me worried, until I SEE here how you have done it. It's just Beautiful.

Can you tell me how long your wheat lasts you, or how many loaves it makes? Do you make bread everyday? Thank you again for the video, I'm not as worried now that I see someone plant in a home size space, and not on a 500 acre farm.

Bless you!

[johnbleeker]

I think you did many people a great favor by making these two video clips. It will encourage a lot of other like minded gardeners to start growing there own grain.

Thanks again for taking the time to make and share these valuable informative videos to the rest of world.

[1dschamp]

What a wonderful video. To grow everything yourself and make a loaf from it must be a amazing feeling. You are a real inspiration!!

[chelseaholley]

Thank you! That was such an inspirational video. I am a back yard gardener and I would love to grow wheat, maybe some day! Thanks again!! Chelsea from Vancouver Island, Canada.

[ohiovr]

Great video! How much wheat were you able to harvest in your plot of land?

[cresidue]

Excellent series, thank you.

[tobigforyou]

What is the name of that electric grain mill?

[seedtray1]

@tobigforyou Its an Austrian made mill from Waldner Biotech, I am not sure how it compares to other makes but it seems fine for whole meal flower

[tobigforyou]

@seedtray1 Thanks I was just at their website, pretty cool stuff.

[boxa888]

@seedtray1 wow that was awesome! thanks alot for sharing! man that must taste soo good!!!

[lancelot908]

@tobigforyou I think it is a Fidibus. I am looking to buy one too. :)

[tobigforyou]

What is the name of that electric grain mill?

[knokidn]

sir i envy the sence of acomplishment you must feel at the end of the day i am in NE Arizona and dont ander stand alotment is that just a back yard garden or is it agovernment thimg cant say it enough wow

[seedtray1]

@knokidn In the UK, allotments are rented gardens. Local government usually owns the land and local residents can rent a plot (300 yrd2) my rent this year is £ 36. Many allotment sites are managed by plot holder associations (kind of like community managed victory gardens if that makes sense to you)

[ashleew43]

wow. That takes a lot of work. How long that that crop of wheat last you. And how many people do you think it feeds?

[seedtray1]

@ashleew43 The plot yielded 25 kg, which gives around 50 whole meal loaves, or put another way one small loaf per square meter

[Keesolan]

Loved these videos! Thanks for sharing them!

[nostoppingnow]

Thank you for going through the trouble of making this two part video. You answered all my questions with relaxing backgound music too.

[blacklabflies]

How big is your wheat plot? Thank you for posting these two videos.

[seedtray1]

The wheat plot is 55 square meters

[blacklabflies]

@seedtray1

Thanks for the videos. I planted my first plot of spring wheat this week.

[seedtray1]

@blacklabflies I wish you all the best and would be interested to know how it turns out

[blacklabflies]

@seedtray1 I am nervous the birds may have eaten some of my seed as I had some doves in the plot scratching around. Well let you know how it goes. That thrashing machine is something.

[angiemohr]

Such a great video. Thank you!

[mrturkey23]

I really enjoyed this video. It's very informative of the process from the start to finish. I may have to try my hand at this.

[tonymagic53]

great quality & great dedication; inspirational.

[asdfandi]

Very nicely put together and clearly explained, a joy to watch. All I need now is a plot of land.

[2bprudent]

Absolutely Awesome! You went thru the whole process teaching step by step, now I am interested in knowing the name of all the equipment & where to purchase it. I alway wanted a farm & can't wait until I get it. Thanks for all the information

[seedtray1]

If there is enough interest, I will try to put some stills together on how to construct the threshing machine

[2bprudent]

U know I visited another site where a few people were angry that they could not get detailed info as 2 how to grow wheat but here you've have this up here for quite some time & no one asked questionsor commented much. I 'll b sure 2 get the word out about your vid. Again Thanks 4 posting this vid

[segarza]

@seedtray1 Yes, I would love to see more details on your machines. Your videos are second to none! Have you planted Barley or Oats? Could you give a estimate of how many kilos of Wheat you harvest from say 1 kilo of planted seed? Thanks for the videos.

[paramotorboy]

Nice videos.

[seedtray1]

Thanks glad you like them