Hall-Effect Sensor Levitator

[nilesh066]

How you tune the PID controller for the levitation?

[a1mint]

How many Watts does it use. Interested to know if because it generates so little heat, that the energy used is so little.

Also, what if you put a delay in the sensor reaction. The object would start moving up and down, performing more work. Would that generate more heat?

[Uzzors2k]

@a1mint I haven't taken any measurements of power consumption, though that would be interesting. IIRC my infrared levitator used about 15-20W of power to levitate 100 gram objects, though this was with the aid of a magnet. A delay or other imperfection in the regulation loop would indeed increase power usage, since the object would be constantly accelerated up and down. The large bouts of force needed from the electromagnet would require current surges, which represent a R*I^2 loss.

[a1mint]

@Uzzors2k The interesting part is, I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the act of keeping the object levitated can take next to not energy, because no work is being performed. The potential energy of gravity is being opposed.

If that weren't the case, and if it takes (a lot of) energy to keep an object afloat, then using permanent magnets would spend energy, which it doesn't because permanent magnets can not be a source of energy.

[Uzzors2k]

@a1mint According to my understanding of physics the actual levitation doesn't require energy like you say. However the process of creating the magnetic field required to suspend the object does, but only through resistive losses in the electromagnet. Theoretically by using a superconducting electromagnet, you wouldn't require energy to suspend an object.

[a1mint]

@Uzzors2k Indeed. What about using an AC power source?

[a1mint]

@Uzzors2k So, an interesting application would be an (electric) magnet monorail of sorts that hangs off a metal railing. The magnet would keep the train near, but not touching, the rail. Safety wheel on top would ensure the train can't fall down. Energy would be fed through the rails. The train would pick that up through induction. The train can use part of its energy from its momentum somehow, so that even when power fails it can coast while still floating...

Just a wild idea.

[Uzzors2k]

@a1mint I think I've heard of this before as an application of room-temp superconductors. It'd be sort of like those levitation demonstrations using pyrolytic graphite, liquid nitrogen and magnets.

[blivori]

what hall effect sensor did you use?? and how many coil windings?

[seonsshrestha]

where's the video discription?

[neato3000]

Super Awesome! Basically the hall turns the coil off when it gets to close and turns it on when it gets to far away right?

[Uzzors2k]

@neato3000 Pretty much. What's really happening is that the duty cycle of the signal controlling the electromagnet is varied continously, according to the sensor data.

[manu1471891]

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[qettyz]

This is so cool, think about magnets on a key fob, and make like 5 of these on a line, everyones keys are floating and waiting to pick up =)

[Brute4Force]

awesomeee

if you leave it spinning will spin all the time?

-no inertia.

[Abraxas20012]

@Brute4Force nop there still is air friction and other stuff

[phreaktor1]

Awesome. Check out my levitation which uses infrared detectors.

[metubegirl69er]

good work... can u make a video .. step by step.. please

[jupy921]

That is just too freaking cool. Nice Job!

[edikenkoy]

this is nice...

great work...

can you teach me how to do that?

what materials did you use?

[Uzzors2k]

Check out the video description.