dude that outlander is bulletproof the outback is good but does it have the worlds most advanced all wheel drive system? no the outlander does! The outlander has a smaller engine but is faster and more fuel efficient! its cheaper too.
i had to tow my girlfriend's 40000 mercedes e350 out of a snowy hump with my dad's 25000 dollar outback. oh colorado and snow, i love driving subarus.
I own an outback and we've taken it places no car should go. I'm betting the Subaru would have done fine on that last bit past the Scout. The only concern is how tough are your tires? In the Subaru if you rip a tire, you have to replace all four unless they are very new w/ minimal wear. If you rip a tire in the Outlander, is it the same deal?
Why not talk about MPG. I had an Outback with the 3.0 H6 and I would get about 22 combined mileage. I get a lot better with the new Forester I got, it has the 2.5 H4 a little less power but I get about 25 combined mileage.
I have taken a 2000 Hyundai Elantra on way craziers way worse raods than these wuss bags did. I had an '89 Jetta that I also went on a few adventures in, both cars made it out great.
I would take the mitsubishi any day. It has better all wheel drive. I like my toyota truck for off road though. but the mitsubishi would probably be decent in snow.
outlander would smoke it in off road i live in ny the 08 outlander i have can make it threw a foot and a half of snow in fwd i honestly think it would kill the subaru!!!!
@Romanmicagearguy I have been wanting to see an outback vs an Audi allroad on a snow climb. I wanna see which has the BEST awd system once and for all. You guys should do it. Do a ski slope and see which one goes farther.
he keeps preaching the subaru all wheel drive...which is good.....but it only has the ability to move power front and rear, where as the mitsu's S-AWC (super all wheel control) gives it the ability to lock, but also runs the EVO's S-AWC system, allowing the power to not just move front and rear but left and right as well. the outlander, although harsh suspension for being off road, will do a better job at getting around. the ability to power individual wheels on the mitsu gives it the win
I am not sure that is true, I thought the Subaru could move power left and right also, using brake application on the slipping wheel to move power to the other side? I am not bashing the Mitsu here. The locking ability in his terrain is better, and I am no fan of the brake style anti slip.. It tends to be slow in reacting. I saw a slipping ramp test where they checked if 100% of power could move to any wheel on a several model cars the Subaru did make it up with power to 1 wheel.
Gnarly? What, are they in a park? There are much better off-road tests in Colorado than that. Heck, I know someone who took on ruts much worse than that in a PT Cruiser. Granted, he caused over $2000 in suspension damage, but you're suppose to "break" it in, right? The Subaru can make it up the same hills as the outlander, since it can go faster up it. The best approach to a tough hill isn't always slow and steady. My 87 Subaru GL could make that big scary hill in fwd... at stock.
Is there a video which will show the abilities of the outlander in a diagonal situation - such as the subaru was at 3:22 (so i can see if the front and rear diffs are strong enough to throw power to the wheels on the ground)?
@cdawg4391 i have a 3.0 litre v6 outlander and im a keen off-road enthusiast and i can promise you the locking diffs in the outlander are plenty strong enough
@jackoboy97 Thank you. That may well be a deciding factor in me picking either the Subaru or the Outlander. I recognize the Outlander more or less a car-based platform, but fully locking diffs. would be a real asset for someone like me who lives in the PA Mountains and thus has to deal with climbing hills covered with snow and ice.
lets see the outlander is less expensive, looks better, higher up, faster from 0-60 and top speed, better built better fuel milage and better all wheel drive system. What more can I say?
also the all wheel drive thing i said is true its proven to be better its the worlds most advanced all wheel drive system suck that subaru
i'm trying to look for a car to replace my jeep (can't afford the gas anymore) and i'm looking at getting an outback, i watched this video to see how they do off roading and that road they took those cars on looks like my drive way, may have to stick with the jeep after all
@ishbush if that's like your drive... just get a scooby imprezza and guard the bottom, doesn't even have to be the turbo version - if you go at least 20mph you wont get stuck.
My friend has a new outback and I have a new outlander and we went on muddy terrain and twisted uneven surfaces so two wheels came off the ground and his car got stuck countless times and my outlander was perfect his cars awe system couldn't do the uneven stuff mitsubishis sawc is the best awe system to date it's even prooven by professionals! Subuarus sad system is like all others but with a fancy name!! Go Mitsubishi
@gadgetguy4000 And yet, Subaru's axles are even, without having the typical torque-steer bullshit. And with the transmisssion longitudinally. Meaning I could convert it to RWD.
@Ryoukun16 my outlander has absoloutley no torque steer and yes I know subaru has made it clear that every thing is aligned perfectly but it matters on the rough stuff where it does not do well also the subies boxer engine is cool and all but that means not as good of water fording so you cant go in deep water with those low spark plugs and pistons and mitsubishi is higher up without the low boxer engine nice try subaru
@Ryoukun16 ? ok seriously doesnt "the worlds most advanced awd system" mean anything to you? the wheel with the most traction gets the torque... subarus are good in mud and snow i gotta admit but their all wheel drive system isnt built to go onto uneven terrain like climbing a steep embankment on an angle they will just spin out if they had lockers...they would make it up...im not hating on subaru i think theyre pretty good its just their awd system could be more advanced thats all
They most likely both would've made it. It's sad that they didn't get down, find the toe points, and try it. It would've been good to have a truck or Jeep around in case they got in trouble, but really as long as they didn't go too fast the risk should've been negligible.
Only yesterday I had a bad accident in an Outback. Could not avoid a fox, which smashed into the front end and ruptured the brake fluid pipes. So... no brakes, at a speed of 90 mph. To avoid crashing, I had to go green - into the outback. With VERY careful driving, I managed to cross a deep ditch without overturning, broke through a fence and ended up in a muddy field. Fire brigade was unable to get it out and got bogged, so I just drove it back to the road on its own four wheels...
I lived through six Colorado winters. My Outback never got stuck in the snow. No off roading but if you must travel through the snow, this is the car!
you call that off road, thats a dirt road with some pebbles on it, ive taken my subabru OFFROADING, but yes, i agree with you guys, Subaru is better, by far, i should know, i own one.
@christophermok I havent had one problem in the 5 years i have had it. Its a stick shift, and i push that car to the max. I treat it like a full on sports car, and off road car. Transmission is totally fine, sounds fine, if you have a chance to get a Subaru Outback, i HIGHLY suggest it. its amazing
i drive my outlander off road. after 30MPH on pure off road, its limit is reached. anymore than it, it will break. However, i have a 2003 outlander, 4 cylinder, FWD.
The Subby you're looking at even 4wd instead of FWD, that has an inherent advantage in off road, but it also has perfected traction controll and power differential. The Mitsubishi isn't even close.
Cemetrical AWD? How does that compare to mitsubishis S-AWC system? Which offers an Active Yaw differential, Active Stability Control, Active Center Differential, Sports Abs, Roll Control suspension, and Electronic brake distribution. If you lose traction from any wheel the computers sense it and within miliseconds send power to the correct wheels to fix the issue.
I loved it.I was like go SUbaru, go!!! I have Outback, Legacy 1998, thank you and i love that when people see me pull up there like oh, here comes soccer mom in her Subaru, then whenver a bumpy , wet, or icy road comes along and i can hit turns at 60mph and don't ever loose my grip.I think who's the soccer mom now biatches!!!! Duh everyone knows that's what makes a subaru a subaru.
Outlander is not though, I've had an accident when the guy cutted me in front and hitted me, I took off his front wheel, while my little puny civic had nothing but esthetical damages
Does anyone else think this test should have been between the Mitsubisi Outlander and a Subaru Forester? Morons... That's like comparing a Jeep to a Cadillac. Two completely different vehicles...
@swimboy1993 but the problem still lies with the minimal ground clearance and overall lack of torque, granted they are great on road, and light duty offroading, but the fact still remains that true deep woods, heavy mud offroading should be done using more capable vehicles.
@UpYersMan these things are capable...i own an 01 4 banger and its got plenty of push to go through some good stuff. it may not be fast but they can easily go in deep mud. the only thing stopping them is ground clearance. and its pretty good for a crossover
hahahah wtf, is this "off road" ? im a subaru owner for years now, at the moment owner of the newest version.. im telling you, on a surfae like that subaru an easily get 50-60 km/h . it's like being on the road.
Tha'ts why about 95% of all subarus are still on the road. Also it must be why Toyota invested in Subaru, and plans on building a car based on the SUbaru 2.5l engine and drivetrain...
Great video on 2 excellent semi-off road vehicles.
I own an 09 Outback and can tell you I've had it on much worse roads.
Off road has so many differing connotations it's hard to lump it all into a simple category.
The high performance models from Mitsubishi and Subaru that are used for road rally don't have as much ground clearance as the 2 tested, but at 100+mph, you wouldn't want to hit boulders and ruts.
In the same instance, you wouldn't take a stock Jeep rock climbing.
Really you should learn all about your Subaru before you drive it. The Subaru Outback has a button to disable the traction control system which locks out the differential system and does the same as the Mitsu locking mech.
@BigBootieJohn Subaru does not have side to side locker. The GT Outlander has active front differential, which means that it also controls side to side power. Most Subaru 4wd systems don't do this. Though subaru 4wd systems have passive wheels spin limiters, like LSD and Viscous things on axles, but Subaru does not use active differential in any model at axle. Active differential can lock up to 100% when needed, and it does it automatically.
@offfiman Unless you have axle lockers you will never get a true 100% lock. Also Active diffs are designed for on road agility, not off road capibility. When your off roading you want a system that quickly pervents wheel slip. the ability to increase the torque going to the outside wheel is irelevent in conditions like these. Although, thanks to a locking center differential, the Outlander has the advantage here, seeing how each axle will recive 50% of the torque, when locked.
@rangerover06sc You are not getting the point of active diff, in offroad use. Active diff is controlled electronically, it can be programmed to work like you want. And it can operate far quicker and more efficiently than traction control. And , you are wrong in the locking degree too. When the clutches of active diff, are fully operating to move the torque on other side, it's equivalent to having the diff 100% locked. No torque can escape by slipping from the opposite side. And
@rangerover06sc the active diff can also remain it's locking position for awhile. Or be already limiting the slip before proper slip occurs. Search for Jeep Quadra Drive 2 in the previous Grand Cherokee generation, and you see how fantastic active diffs can be in offroad use. Jeeps diffs remain like 100% locked for certain amount of time, after the tires have lost grip too bad. Also, look this video from Outlander, it also shows how the active diffs work, see no slip at all. watch?v=tUZhujaUhTg
@rangerover06sc The point of moving power from side to side, isn't of course irrelevant at all. For example, Range Rover uses traction control this way. When tire slips, it applies brakes, to move the power on opposite side. Now, active differential moves the power from side to side already in the diff, but it also has other triggers than ABS sensors. It can start doing it already when you press throttle, or when you steer, or when senses G-forces to direction or another.
@offfiman Im not saying that moving power from side to side is a bad thing, but active diffs do it in a way thats optimized for on road use, not off road use. For example, the system in the X6 takes forever to stop wheel-slip compared to land rover's, Jeep's and toyota's brake based traction control system. And no, jeeps system can't give you a 100% lock between the axles.
@offfiman The thing is, off road your anti-slip system needs to kick in alot quicker, and in different circumstances, then it would if it where designed for high performance on road driving. because their isn't really g forces when your crawl over things, this type of system is going to have alot more difficulty sensing wheelslip and detecting where to send the torque. Basically active diffs and designed to send all the power to one wheel, then send torque to the other wheel if that wheel slips
@rangerover06sc Now having all the torque sent to one wheel is ideal for on road conditions, but for off road use this isn't ideal as brake traction is because doesn't have to worry about figuring out where to send all the torque, it just brakes the slipping wheel. On road that techique would slow you down, but seeing how brake traction systems are designed for safety rather then performance, thats not really a propbem.
@rangerover06sc Again, it's all about the programming of the active diff, just like with traction control as well. Obviously, BMW have programmed their active diff to not work off-road. But if you watched the video, of the Outlander doing the icy hill, you realized, that the active diff can be very quick. All active diffs are not same, nowhere near same. There is many ways to have an active diff. So I don't say anything about BMW diffs. And yes, Jeeps diffs offer traction equivalent to 100% lock
@offfiman NO they dont a true 100% means that exactly 50% of the torque is going to each wheel as long as the locker is engauged. Jeeps Electronic Limited-slip will never be able to achieve that seeing how they rely on electronics to pervent wheel-slip which always have just a little bit of bais towards one wheel. Also JEEP USES BRAKE TRACTION CONTROL, not active diffs. It uses the brakes to create an artificial lock.
@rangerover06sc You are still wrong. Jeep Quadra Drive 2 uses Eaton ELSD differentials to move the torque, and I said it is EQUIVALENT for 100% lock, like it is. Jeep also has Quadra Trac systems on their vehicles, and Quadra Track uses traction control like Land Rovers do. In this video you see Quadra Track 2 for comparison: watch?v=kd8zTdo_MJM . Quadra TRAC and Quadra DRIVE are 2 totally different kind of systems.
@rangerover06sc And I'm not trying to say that Outlander would be good offroader. No it's far more a road car, because it has bad angles, small wheel travel, and onroad tuned suspension. But the 4wd system the GT version has, would be fantastic for offroad use, like it is. Would be interesting to see if Land Rover could come up with something as useful someday. Sad that jeep is dropping these, they were simply too extreme/good, and too expensive for the new GC.
@rangerover06sc very expensive compared to traction control. That's why active diffs aren't in very wide use, they are extremely expensive compared to TC systems, like real lockers are as well. And no, sending all torque to one wheel is not ideal for any situation, it's only a sentence used to demonstrate the possibilities of the system. Look this video watch?v=y1DG-P6oOGY to see, how the programming affects. Jeep programmed it to be slow on reverse, but very efficient when going forward.
@rangerover06sc From the video you see, the diff locks 100% for preset time after the first slip occurs. You can see, that the wheels don't spin at all even 2 of the tires is in air. Land Rovers Traction Control would be going crazy there, and operating all the time to make the vehicle go further. But it would also get the job done. But nowhere this efficiently.
@rangerover06sc The Outlander in that video is normal Outlander with AWC. It doesn't have active diffs, it has only bad traction control. But the Outlander in this video where we are commenting is GT version, which has S-AWC, Super All Wheel Control. Featuring Active Center and Active Front differentials. I have posted you already one video of the Outlander in this topic, which shows the differences between those 2 systems. There is first 2 attempts with normal AWC outlander, and after that one
@rangerover06sc attempt with the S-AWC Outlander and Active Diffs. In the Active diff outlander, wheels don't spin at all! Not at all simply! Here's the video once again, see the 2 first attempts are with normal 4wd, and the third is with S-AWC. watch?v=tUZhujaUhTg No slip occurs at all in the active diff outlander. While the traction control based 2 first Outlanders are slipping the tires like crazy.
@rangerover06sc Active diff can operate way quicker than traction control ever could. Because in road use, you exactly need far more speed than in offroad use for the operation of the traction device. And active diff uses many more sensors than traction control, that's why it can already start moving the power to opposite side, before any slip occurs. Jeep's Quadra Drive 2, is far quicker than the traction control based Quadra Trac 2. But Jeep discontinued the Quadra Drive 2, because it's
Just want to point out to anyone reading this that all Subaru's have auto locking differentials. Research their AWD system and you will see why it's so good. I own a 2006 outback and have got myself in offroad "trouble" many times and it has always made it out. The alignment is still straight too!! lol.
Just curious, in the reviewer's opinion is the Mitsubishi Outlander a superior street ride compared to the Outback IF one is planning on just staying to city roads and at worse endure Midwestern snow Blizzards 4 months out of the year?
@romanmicagearguy Thanks! I'm torn because I really like what Mitsubishi has done with the designs of their latest Lancer/Outlander, but many people tell me Subaru is a better engineered, more refined, and more reliable choice. I have yet to test drive the Outlander though so I appreciate your review! Thanks!
Id still take the outlander :)
TheDataZoo 1 day ago
dude that outlander is bulletproof the outback is good but does it have the worlds most advanced all wheel drive system? no the outlander does! The outlander has a smaller engine but is faster and more fuel efficient! its cheaper too.
gadgetguy4000 3 days ago
nobbers.... just drive up the hill... the outback would make it... brake it yeah right...
MarkyMarkW23 1 week ago
GNARLY!!!
jere2511 1 week ago
outlander looks better
qazwsx2541 1 week ago
that was a terrible off road reveiw, the subaru would have taken that hill without a problem
STIWuff 1 week ago
i had to tow my girlfriend's 40000 mercedes e350 out of a snowy hump with my dad's 25000 dollar outback. oh colorado and snow, i love driving subarus.
ninjaseven1 1 week ago
Shiney Subaru!!! Ooh, and it is blue, too! Yeah! Go Subarus!!!! I think I am addicted to them now... or was I already?
Anzhela2 1 week ago
My Forester XT 09 can do a lot, these guys did very little at all
tubeasd234 2 weeks ago
here in Jamaica, Toyota Corollas go through worst than that...EVERYDAY!!!
Dinty51 2 weeks ago
Lamest car comparison ever.
vfrrider17 2 weeks ago
These are all basic loops from Garageband. A little surprised...
omigrad 2 weeks ago
I did hills worse than that, with bigger ruts in my 2011 Mazada 3 rental car. No problem.
422eng 2 weeks ago
I own an outback and we've taken it places no car should go. I'm betting the Subaru would have done fine on that last bit past the Scout. The only concern is how tough are your tires? In the Subaru if you rip a tire, you have to replace all four unless they are very new w/ minimal wear. If you rip a tire in the Outlander, is it the same deal?
998SG 3 weeks ago
Why not talk about MPG. I had an Outback with the 3.0 H6 and I would get about 22 combined mileage. I get a lot better with the new Forester I got, it has the 2.5 H4 a little less power but I get about 25 combined mileage.
Nbuilder1 3 weeks ago
my outback is from 01 and i would bring it right up that last bit
9gibsonlespaul 3 weeks ago
My '07 2.5i could've done that. It didn't look so bad.
YellowFDkid 4 weeks ago
I have taken a 2000 Hyundai Elantra on way craziers way worse raods than these wuss bags did. I had an '89 Jetta that I also went on a few adventures in, both cars made it out great.
mattplasse88 1 month ago
I would take the mitsubishi any day. It has better all wheel drive. I like my toyota truck for off road though. but the mitsubishi would probably be decent in snow.
117nathanmyers 1 month ago
outlander would smoke it in off road i live in ny the 08 outlander i have can make it threw a foot and a half of snow in fwd i honestly think it would kill the subaru!!!!
dt4wheelin 1 month ago
wouldnt the forester be more comparable to the outlander..?
jkldeer 1 month ago
@jkldeer
The Forester is more like the Outlander Sport only better.
Nbuilder1 3 weeks ago 2
@Nbuilder1 totally agree.
jkldeer 3 weeks ago
Why not do the Forester in this test?
soyntgo4it 1 month ago
The Subaru is too ugly to be taken seriously.
pillowsnake94 1 month ago
I'm guessing the Subaru fanboy in the video has never heard of Mitsubishi's advanced All Wheel Control system....
montysport94 1 month ago
@Romanmicagearguy I have been wanting to see an outback vs an Audi allroad on a snow climb. I wanna see which has the BEST awd system once and for all. You guys should do it. Do a ski slope and see which one goes farther.
LikwiDgAngStr 1 month ago 7
@LikwiDgAngStr Love your snow climb idea. We've added it to our list. Now we just need to get a hold of the new Audi Allroad.
romanmicagearguy 1 month ago 10
subaru has the best
Beckett229 2 weeks ago
3:05 they spelled "time" as "tine"
YMCMB4L1F3 1 month ago
the thumbnail looks LEGIT
YMCMB4L1F3 1 month ago
Lets see how it goe's aggaints the mitsabeeshee!
gs083 2 months ago
subaru needs to ditch the hatchback looks for the forester and make it into an outlander type
Mrnepalesedogg 2 months ago
this video offers nothing except two bone heads loving their own voice
fatboyjem 2 months ago
he keeps preaching the subaru all wheel drive...which is good.....but it only has the ability to move power front and rear, where as the mitsu's S-AWC (super all wheel control) gives it the ability to lock, but also runs the EVO's S-AWC system, allowing the power to not just move front and rear but left and right as well. the outlander, although harsh suspension for being off road, will do a better job at getting around. the ability to power individual wheels on the mitsu gives it the win
454canadian 2 months ago
@454canadian
I am not sure that is true, I thought the Subaru could move power left and right also, using brake application on the slipping wheel to move power to the other side? I am not bashing the Mitsu here. The locking ability in his terrain is better, and I am no fan of the brake style anti slip.. It tends to be slow in reacting. I saw a slipping ramp test where they checked if 100% of power could move to any wheel on a several model cars the Subaru did make it up with power to 1 wheel.
kens97sto171 1 month ago
porn music
lostyet 2 months ago
this video does nothing for me to decide which one to pick.
ge69rh 2 months ago
@ge69rh just buy subaru:P
ctabseller 2 months ago
Gnarly? What, are they in a park? There are much better off-road tests in Colorado than that. Heck, I know someone who took on ruts much worse than that in a PT Cruiser. Granted, he caused over $2000 in suspension damage, but you're suppose to "break" it in, right? The Subaru can make it up the same hills as the outlander, since it can go faster up it. The best approach to a tough hill isn't always slow and steady. My 87 Subaru GL could make that big scary hill in fwd... at stock.
dj7291993 2 months ago
hey subaru install lock diff on Foretser
symmetry08 2 months ago
gnarly hill? wft? I've driven my front drive matrix over far worse
touge242 2 months ago
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subaru will always be better than mitsubishi
MegaGabriel150 3 months ago
Is there a video which will show the abilities of the outlander in a diagonal situation - such as the subaru was at 3:22 (so i can see if the front and rear diffs are strong enough to throw power to the wheels on the ground)?
cdawg4391 3 months ago
@cdawg4391 i have a 3.0 litre v6 outlander and im a keen off-road enthusiast and i can promise you the locking diffs in the outlander are plenty strong enough
jackoboy97 3 months ago
@jackoboy97 Thank you. That may well be a deciding factor in me picking either the Subaru or the Outlander. I recognize the Outlander more or less a car-based platform, but fully locking diffs. would be a real asset for someone like me who lives in the PA Mountains and thus has to deal with climbing hills covered with snow and ice.
cdawg4391 3 months ago
check my channel to see the outlander go up a steep hill on an angle to test the sawc with the worlds most advanced all wheel drive system
gadgetguy4000 3 months ago
What's the challenge??
mdparra 3 months ago
ive taken my outback over way rougher stuff than that hill lol
wigg69 3 months ago
camera stability fail
gxpbecker 3 months ago
Did you put "tine to" on purpose ?
DraughtHaze 4 months ago
lets see the outlander is less expensive, looks better, higher up, faster from 0-60 and top speed, better built better fuel milage and better all wheel drive system. What more can I say?
also the all wheel drive thing i said is true its proven to be better its the worlds most advanced all wheel drive system suck that subaru
gadgetguy4000 4 months ago
Uhmm...why drive so slow? I drive 80kmh on rougher track with my xterra. You guys are probably going 20-30?
Theologist 4 months ago
Subaru will only be the best from its excellently outstanding track record for drive stance, and feel
RandomShow585 4 months ago
only Subaru!
mezdejek 4 months ago 42
SUBARU sucks... old lady car
MIATA0319 2 months ago
Apparently colorado drivers are pussies.
jakedasnake773 4 months ago
You call that off-road??? ROFLMAO
dinkata2005 4 months ago
why are you looking for a comfortable ride when you're going off roading?!
laskjdgx 4 months ago
why do you never drive manuals?
888pineapple888 4 months ago
@888pineapple888 cuz there pussy's
johnsick80 4 months ago
Keep going you pusses
EricDavidFloyd 5 months ago 30
i'm trying to look for a car to replace my jeep (can't afford the gas anymore) and i'm looking at getting an outback, i watched this video to see how they do off roading and that road they took those cars on looks like my drive way, may have to stick with the jeep after all
ishbush 5 months ago
@ishbush if that's like your drive... just get a scooby imprezza and guard the bottom, doesn't even have to be the turbo version - if you go at least 20mph you wont get stuck.
mt1104 4 months ago
@gadgetguy4000: So no, they don't mean squat.
Ryoukun16 5 months ago
i'd take the outback over the Mitsubishi anyday. dont get me wrong the Mitsubishi is awesome, but love the Boxer engines.
SubaruXT6 5 months ago
My friend has a new outback and I have a new outlander and we went on muddy terrain and twisted uneven surfaces so two wheels came off the ground and his car got stuck countless times and my outlander was perfect his cars awe system couldn't do the uneven stuff mitsubishis sawc is the best awe system to date it's even prooven by professionals! Subuarus sad system is like all others but with a fancy name!! Go Mitsubishi
gadgetguy4000 6 months ago
@gadgetguy4000 And yet, Subaru's axles are even, without having the typical torque-steer bullshit. And with the transmisssion longitudinally. Meaning I could convert it to RWD.
Ryoukun16 5 months ago
@Ryoukun16 my outlander has absoloutley no torque steer and yes I know subaru has made it clear that every thing is aligned perfectly but it matters on the rough stuff where it does not do well also the subies boxer engine is cool and all but that means not as good of water fording so you cant go in deep water with those low spark plugs and pistons and mitsubishi is higher up without the low boxer engine nice try subaru
gadgetguy4000 5 months ago
@gadgetguy4000 Ugh, not only do you NOT type clearly, you still don't get it.
Ryoukun16 5 months ago
@gadgetguy4000 Then tell me why I see old Subaru GL Hatchbacks doing so terrifically well offroading.
Ryoukun16 5 months ago
@Ryoukun16 in mud yea sure on uneven terrain...forget about it!
gadgetguy4000 5 months ago
@gadgetguy4000 Right, this is where Subarus shine. Show me a Mitsubishi who can climb over rocks, in a small as hell car.
Ryoukun16 5 months ago
@Ryoukun16 ? ok seriously doesnt "the worlds most advanced awd system" mean anything to you? the wheel with the most traction gets the torque... subarus are good in mud and snow i gotta admit but their all wheel drive system isnt built to go onto uneven terrain like climbing a steep embankment on an angle they will just spin out if they had lockers...they would make it up...im not hating on subaru i think theyre pretty good its just their awd system could be more advanced thats all
gadgetguy4000 5 months ago
nice subaru
97336cf 6 months ago
They both have one thing in common. They're Outs. Outback. Outlander.
WhiteIceMan3 6 months ago
the outback is ugly
matawin2 6 months ago
@matawin2 you mean compared to the Outlander??? are your eyes painted on?
stevelane1956 6 months ago
garage band music
bertman668 7 months ago
id take my impala up that road.... pussies
broodcaster07 7 months ago
They most likely both would've made it. It's sad that they didn't get down, find the toe points, and try it. It would've been good to have a truck or Jeep around in case they got in trouble, but really as long as they didn't go too fast the risk should've been negligible.
Jakstr1981 7 months ago
You should try the LR2 on off road...
josegarciatorrico 7 months ago
Only yesterday I had a bad accident in an Outback. Could not avoid a fox, which smashed into the front end and ruptured the brake fluid pipes. So... no brakes, at a speed of 90 mph. To avoid crashing, I had to go green - into the outback. With VERY careful driving, I managed to cross a deep ditch without overturning, broke through a fence and ended up in a muddy field. Fire brigade was unable to get it out and got bogged, so I just drove it back to the road on its own four wheels...
barliman2001 7 months ago
let me know when you go off road
sauge1000 7 months ago
I lived through six Colorado winters. My Outback never got stuck in the snow. No off roading but if you must travel through the snow, this is the car!
killroy71 7 months ago
subaru ftw!
dejwood 7 months ago
you call that off road, thats a dirt road with some pebbles on it, ive taken my subabru OFFROADING, but yes, i agree with you guys, Subaru is better, by far, i should know, i own one.
RyanRjStudios 7 months ago
@RyanRjStudios any issues with spped transmission... a lot of forums have commented about its reliability in that department?
christophermok 7 months ago
@christophermok I havent had one problem in the 5 years i have had it. Its a stick shift, and i push that car to the max. I treat it like a full on sports car, and off road car. Transmission is totally fine, sounds fine, if you have a chance to get a Subaru Outback, i HIGHLY suggest it. its amazing
RyanRjStudios 7 months ago
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mitsubishi all the way thumbs up if you agree
Tempest491 7 months ago
Outlender красивей,практичней и 3.0 быстрей!
SuperStilar 7 months ago
i drive my outlander off road. after 30MPH on pure off road, its limit is reached. anymore than it, it will break. However, i have a 2003 outlander, 4 cylinder, FWD.
andrewesquivel 7 months ago
The Subby you're looking at even 4wd instead of FWD, that has an inherent advantage in off road, but it also has perfected traction controll and power differential. The Mitsubishi isn't even close.
TheTruthSetlingUFree 7 months ago
You pussy's! That road wasn't even bad should have finished the review... My 81 suby gl 4wd would smoke both of those cars!
Tthrizzle85 8 months ago
@Tthrizzle85 Post a video of it - please.
NathanDAdlen 8 months ago
Have you considered doing a full review of the Outlander rather than the Outlander Sport? I'd be really interested in seeing that!
Gorzugi133 8 months ago
Cemetrical AWD? How does that compare to mitsubishis S-AWC system? Which offers an Active Yaw differential, Active Stability Control, Active Center Differential, Sports Abs, Roll Control suspension, and Electronic brake distribution. If you lose traction from any wheel the computers sense it and within miliseconds send power to the correct wheels to fix the issue.
Cloudstrife1188 8 months ago
@Cloudstrife1188 subaru just wants to be better but they know they will fail
Tempest491 7 months ago
@Cloudstrife1188 yeah and it has independent front wheels --> S-AWC is the best 4WD system ever
boostGTRdu67 6 months ago
@boostGTRdu67 Isn't-it-fully-independent-suspension?-My-new-eclipse-GT-comes-fully-all-four-wheels-independent.-I-would-be-shocked-if-the-AWD-system-in-the-outlander-didnt-have-it
Cloudstrife1188 6 months ago
@Cloudstrife1188 I don't talk about the suspension, I talk about the transmission.
The Xdrive of BMW has independent rear wheels and S-AWC of Mitsubishi has independent front wheels.
For me the S-AWC is the best 4WD system ever, it beat the 5 Guiness Worlds Records !
boostGTRdu67 6 months ago
GO MITSUBISHI!!! BTW I BOUGHT THE MITSUBISHI :P
EmmetLBrown88 9 months ago
i liked the outlander more as soon as i saw the subaru's front fascia lol
cardude1992 9 months ago
I loved it.I was like go SUbaru, go!!! I have Outback, Legacy 1998, thank you and i love that when people see me pull up there like oh, here comes soccer mom in her Subaru, then whenver a bumpy , wet, or icy road comes along and i can hit turns at 60mph and don't ever loose my grip.I think who's the soccer mom now biatches!!!! Duh everyone knows that's what makes a subaru a subaru.
victoriakapshaw 9 months ago
Outlander is not though, I've had an accident when the guy cutted me in front and hitted me, I took off his front wheel, while my little puny civic had nothing but esthetical damages
undrgrndr2 9 months ago
SUBARU FOREVER!!! good vid!
triniboy2007 9 months ago
i think subaru is better than all those japanes car in its class
saidjumanasser 9 months ago 2
Does anyone else think this test should have been between the Mitsubisi Outlander and a Subaru Forester? Morons... That's like comparing a Jeep to a Cadillac. Two completely different vehicles...
DistantBlaze 9 months ago
o wait nvm I guess they finaly did come out with the v6 model...still boring power. Mitsubishi needs to up their game.
Jesusfe88 9 months ago
Ummmmm the outlander sport does not come in v6...just 4
Jesusfe88 9 months ago
What a lame ass off road test
my E class mercedes can drive on those trails you took
w55ks 9 months ago
I climbed up a 3750 meters mountain with my outlander 08
(Cerro del Potosí, Galeana, N.L . Mex.)
nirvsgard 9 months ago
Много базарят мало тестируют - мне НЕ ПОНРАВИЛОСЬ!!!
666masster666 9 months ago
dude the cars could totaly keep going
toyota420xp 10 months ago
@toyota420xp seriously, that is nothing.......
swimboy1993 9 months ago
i never drove a mitsubishi. i wouldnt mind it. i dont know if i ever saw one but i do see subarus
toyota420xp 10 months ago
off road is truly the territory of trucks and suvs, to truly. to really tear up the trails, i'd suggest either a Grand Cherokee or a Power Wagon.
UpYersMan 10 months ago
@UpYersMan thats the point of these cars, to go places that once were reserved for suv's.
swimboy1993 9 months ago
@swimboy1993 but the problem still lies with the minimal ground clearance and overall lack of torque, granted they are great on road, and light duty offroading, but the fact still remains that true deep woods, heavy mud offroading should be done using more capable vehicles.
UpYersMan 9 months ago
@UpYersMan these things are capable...i own an 01 4 banger and its got plenty of push to go through some good stuff. it may not be fast but they can easily go in deep mud. the only thing stopping them is ground clearance. and its pretty good for a crossover
swimboy1993 9 months ago
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UpYersMan 7 months ago
both suck
12qwas456 10 months ago
hahahah wtf, is this "off road" ? im a subaru owner for years now, at the moment owner of the newest version.. im telling you, on a surfae like that subaru an easily get 50-60 km/h . it's like being on the road.
Pigimon 10 months ago
Would have been worth something if they atleast took the cars over some rough terrain not these gay / some smooth dirt tracks !!
royrubber 10 months ago
subaru all the way
blitzbeat06 10 months ago
BTW, Mitsubishi cannot even compare to Subaru. AT ALL. It's a damned unreliable piece of shit, and the numbers prove it. LONG LIVE SUBARU!
cliquehop 10 months ago
This should have been between the Outlander and the Forester,
cliquehop 10 months ago
i love the honest and in-depth commentary. Seems truly unbiased, and that's rare when it comes to car reviews.
EnigmaComposer 10 months ago
Subarus have a personality of their own. They are great vehicles. The Mitsubishi is nice too, but I'll take the Subie.
charger19691 11 months ago
My family took me over New Mexico's dirt roads--much worse than this--in a 1954 Pontiac Chieftain. These guys didn't even get their cars dirty.
jrmmgr 11 months ago
both cars are shitty, and have poor quality and resale value compared to Honda and Toyota.
tom11zz884 11 months ago
@tom11zz884 have you owned both?
ACMilangoalie 11 months ago
@ACMilangoalie
Yes I have Sherlock.
tom11zz884 11 months ago
@tom11zz884
Tha'ts why about 95% of all subarus are still on the road. Also it must be why Toyota invested in Subaru, and plans on building a car based on the SUbaru 2.5l engine and drivetrain...
RFIDMUSIC 10 months ago
The Mitsubishi looks so much better than the Subaru. All Subaru's look like S H I T.
ablebasher17 11 months ago
Both ugly, both gay. Mitsu has a bad rep for quality already so i guess the subaru would win
MisterPeetBull 1 year ago
I really don't need to see a smug commercial on here
MisterPeetBull 1 year ago
Great video on 2 excellent semi-off road vehicles.
I own an 09 Outback and can tell you I've had it on much worse roads.
Off road has so many differing connotations it's hard to lump it all into a simple category.
The high performance models from Mitsubishi and Subaru that are used for road rally don't have as much ground clearance as the 2 tested, but at 100+mph, you wouldn't want to hit boulders and ruts.
In the same instance, you wouldn't take a stock Jeep rock climbing.
KentuckyRangerPro 1 year ago
im sure my volvo 850 can do that stuff... and its fwd...
alex49698 1 year ago
You call that off-road???
greeny0089 1 year ago
Really you should learn all about your Subaru before you drive it. The Subaru Outback has a button to disable the traction control system which locks out the differential system and does the same as the Mitsu locking mech.
BigBootieJohn 1 year ago
@BigBootieJohn Subaru does not have side to side locker. The GT Outlander has active front differential, which means that it also controls side to side power. Most Subaru 4wd systems don't do this. Though subaru 4wd systems have passive wheels spin limiters, like LSD and Viscous things on axles, but Subaru does not use active differential in any model at axle. Active differential can lock up to 100% when needed, and it does it automatically.
offfiman 1 year ago
@offfiman Unless you have axle lockers you will never get a true 100% lock. Also Active diffs are designed for on road agility, not off road capibility. When your off roading you want a system that quickly pervents wheel slip. the ability to increase the torque going to the outside wheel is irelevent in conditions like these. Although, thanks to a locking center differential, the Outlander has the advantage here, seeing how each axle will recive 50% of the torque, when locked.
rangerover06sc 1 year ago
@rangerover06sc You are not getting the point of active diff, in offroad use. Active diff is controlled electronically, it can be programmed to work like you want. And it can operate far quicker and more efficiently than traction control. And , you are wrong in the locking degree too. When the clutches of active diff, are fully operating to move the torque on other side, it's equivalent to having the diff 100% locked. No torque can escape by slipping from the opposite side. And
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc the active diff can also remain it's locking position for awhile. Or be already limiting the slip before proper slip occurs. Search for Jeep Quadra Drive 2 in the previous Grand Cherokee generation, and you see how fantastic active diffs can be in offroad use. Jeeps diffs remain like 100% locked for certain amount of time, after the tires have lost grip too bad. Also, look this video from Outlander, it also shows how the active diffs work, see no slip at all. watch?v=tUZhujaUhTg
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc The point of moving power from side to side, isn't of course irrelevant at all. For example, Range Rover uses traction control this way. When tire slips, it applies brakes, to move the power on opposite side. Now, active differential moves the power from side to side already in the diff, but it also has other triggers than ABS sensors. It can start doing it already when you press throttle, or when you steer, or when senses G-forces to direction or another.
offfiman 11 months ago
@offfiman Im not saying that moving power from side to side is a bad thing, but active diffs do it in a way thats optimized for on road use, not off road use. For example, the system in the X6 takes forever to stop wheel-slip compared to land rover's, Jeep's and toyota's brake based traction control system. And no, jeeps system can't give you a 100% lock between the axles.
rangerover06sc 11 months ago
@offfiman The thing is, off road your anti-slip system needs to kick in alot quicker, and in different circumstances, then it would if it where designed for high performance on road driving. because their isn't really g forces when your crawl over things, this type of system is going to have alot more difficulty sensing wheelslip and detecting where to send the torque. Basically active diffs and designed to send all the power to one wheel, then send torque to the other wheel if that wheel slips
rangerover06sc 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc Now having all the torque sent to one wheel is ideal for on road conditions, but for off road use this isn't ideal as brake traction is because doesn't have to worry about figuring out where to send all the torque, it just brakes the slipping wheel. On road that techique would slow you down, but seeing how brake traction systems are designed for safety rather then performance, thats not really a propbem.
rangerover06sc 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc Again, it's all about the programming of the active diff, just like with traction control as well. Obviously, BMW have programmed their active diff to not work off-road. But if you watched the video, of the Outlander doing the icy hill, you realized, that the active diff can be very quick. All active diffs are not same, nowhere near same. There is many ways to have an active diff. So I don't say anything about BMW diffs. And yes, Jeeps diffs offer traction equivalent to 100% lock
offfiman 11 months ago
@offfiman NO they dont a true 100% means that exactly 50% of the torque is going to each wheel as long as the locker is engauged. Jeeps Electronic Limited-slip will never be able to achieve that seeing how they rely on electronics to pervent wheel-slip which always have just a little bit of bais towards one wheel. Also JEEP USES BRAKE TRACTION CONTROL, not active diffs. It uses the brakes to create an artificial lock.
rangerover06sc 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc You are still wrong. Jeep Quadra Drive 2 uses Eaton ELSD differentials to move the torque, and I said it is EQUIVALENT for 100% lock, like it is. Jeep also has Quadra Trac systems on their vehicles, and Quadra Track uses traction control like Land Rovers do. In this video you see Quadra Track 2 for comparison: watch?v=kd8zTdo_MJM . Quadra TRAC and Quadra DRIVE are 2 totally different kind of systems.
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc And I'm not trying to say that Outlander would be good offroader. No it's far more a road car, because it has bad angles, small wheel travel, and onroad tuned suspension. But the 4wd system the GT version has, would be fantastic for offroad use, like it is. Would be interesting to see if Land Rover could come up with something as useful someday. Sad that jeep is dropping these, they were simply too extreme/good, and too expensive for the new GC.
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc very expensive compared to traction control. That's why active diffs aren't in very wide use, they are extremely expensive compared to TC systems, like real lockers are as well. And no, sending all torque to one wheel is not ideal for any situation, it's only a sentence used to demonstrate the possibilities of the system. Look this video watch?v=y1DG-P6oOGY to see, how the programming affects. Jeep programmed it to be slow on reverse, but very efficient when going forward.
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc From the video you see, the diff locks 100% for preset time after the first slip occurs. You can see, that the wheels don't spin at all even 2 of the tires is in air. Land Rovers Traction Control would be going crazy there, and operating all the time to make the vehicle go further. But it would also get the job done. But nowhere this efficiently.
offfiman 11 months ago
@offfiman Watch this, the outlander has lots off wheel slip. watch?v=sTKLup299No&feature=related
rangerover06sc 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc The Outlander in that video is normal Outlander with AWC. It doesn't have active diffs, it has only bad traction control. But the Outlander in this video where we are commenting is GT version, which has S-AWC, Super All Wheel Control. Featuring Active Center and Active Front differentials. I have posted you already one video of the Outlander in this topic, which shows the differences between those 2 systems. There is first 2 attempts with normal AWC outlander, and after that one
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc attempt with the S-AWC Outlander and Active Diffs. In the Active diff outlander, wheels don't spin at all! Not at all simply! Here's the video once again, see the 2 first attempts are with normal 4wd, and the third is with S-AWC. watch?v=tUZhujaUhTg No slip occurs at all in the active diff outlander. While the traction control based 2 first Outlanders are slipping the tires like crazy.
offfiman 11 months ago
@rangerover06sc Active diff can operate way quicker than traction control ever could. Because in road use, you exactly need far more speed than in offroad use for the operation of the traction device. And active diff uses many more sensors than traction control, that's why it can already start moving the power to opposite side, before any slip occurs. Jeep's Quadra Drive 2, is far quicker than the traction control based Quadra Trac 2. But Jeep discontinued the Quadra Drive 2, because it's
offfiman 11 months ago
@BigBootieJohn But still, I like both, Subaru is very good too. And especially the suspension is tuned more for worse roads than in the Mitsi.
offfiman 1 year ago
"Tine to switch cars" - FAIL
TheChills100 1 year ago
You guys should try out the Ford SVT Raptor for review.
kronosdb 1 year ago
@kronosdb That's not even in the same category as these 2 vehicles...
KentuckyRangerPro 1 year ago
Next time you going to find some "rough" terrain try finding something that a neon cant follow you up.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
Just want to point out to anyone reading this that all Subaru's have auto locking differentials. Research their AWD system and you will see why it's so good. I own a 2006 outback and have got myself in offroad "trouble" many times and it has always made it out. The alignment is still straight too!! lol.
smilehimself 1 year ago
NOT THE SAME CLASS IDIO' MAYBE OUTLANDER VS FORESTER ?
sylenzyostampa 1 year ago
там где вы катались, я проеду на MARK 2, offroad ))))))))))))
BazisAl 1 year ago
Just curious, in the reviewer's opinion is the Mitsubishi Outlander a superior street ride compared to the Outback IF one is planning on just staying to city roads and at worse endure Midwestern snow Blizzards 4 months out of the year?
Sykarus 1 year ago
@Sykarus I'd say the Outback has a much smoother street ride. The Mitsubishi is sports car firm.
romanmicagearguy 1 year ago 5
@romanmicagearguy Thanks! I'm torn because I really like what Mitsubishi has done with the designs of their latest Lancer/Outlander, but many people tell me Subaru is a better engineered, more refined, and more reliable choice. I have yet to test drive the Outlander though so I appreciate your review! Thanks!
Sykarus 1 year ago
@Sykarus also the Subaru has one of the best all-wheel drives on the market i would go for the Subaru
TheThedragonwarrior 9 months ago