@ajferet Most likely the latter given how tough trueborns are. Especially if he picks a fight with an elemental. Even without their armour Iwouldn;t fancy a normal guy's chances.
If a MW has a fight with an elemental, the MW might fight with a handless "Mech or vs. the elemental AND his point...
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If a MW or Elemental has a dispute with a aerojock or naval crewman, they would choose proxies or duel with something like a medusa whip (whatever that is)
@ajferet Not true about the elemental vs Mechwarrior. The Elemental will be alone if he is stupid enough to let himself get into a trial of any sort with a mechwarrior. The idea of wast is one of the worst crimes among the clan, to potential waste an entire point of 5 elementals for one warrior is just that. Plus in the Books there are plenty of situations where a lone elemental fights a mech. In "Test of Vengence" a lone elemental took out a fresh Atlas single handedly.
@gribae Elementals are physically tough but Phelan Kell and Draconis warriors have beaten Clan elementals in hand to hand...... Lincoln Osis Clan Smoke Jaguars Khan is the most notable to have lost a battle with a Draconis assassin and only survived when fellow elementals saved him.
@bloat3d Perhaps more interesting, though, is their hobbies: Elementals are renowned for playing a variation of 'American' Football, in which a tackle is counted as a negative point for the team.
This came to a head in 3051, when the Ghost Bear clan attacked the planet Sheliak; the defenders, outnumbered and overpowered, tried to be clever and announced their challenge as football. Imagine their surprise to lose their planet, 84 points to 3.
@ShiningRayde 'american football' is nothing compared to the real man's game of NRL. Padding, helmet, safety shit - just plain old violence and life threatening injuries: THAT'S sport!
@bloat3d You neglect to mention that in the fight, Osis himself would have died from his wounds if it had not been th chance happening of those elementals to have even found him in the ruins in the first place.
@gribae Nuh uh. Elementals outside of armor are big and intimidating yes but htye can be taken down. plenty of times elementals have been beaten by smaller soldiers. The entire novel "Test of Vengence" is about a Ghost Bear elemental obsesed with finding and beating an innersphere warrior who repeatedly beat him in single combat both in and out of armor. and the IS warrior was not a mechwarrior. I think she Beat the elemental 4 or 5 times before Jake Kabrinski finaly beat her.
WTF...... how does a moon explode like that? An astronomical body with that kind of combustibility would have been obliterated by asteroids aeons ago.
Haha fine.... when I was a kid watching this show I could suspend my disbelief without a hitch - actually, back then I did not disbelief such things at all... now that I'm all grown up and grumpy and cynical I can't seem to stop nitpicking...
3:21 Ok, what the hell? It takes more than that to drop a Dropship. Plus, I seem to remember Dropships having weapons of their own and taking even a civilian one out was a daunting task.
@MsGunMetal Hehehe yup. From various novels ive read it appears that Clanners take a very liberal approach to sex, they treat it as simply a recreational actiivity to relieve tension and increase efficiency, love is taboo among the Warrior Caste as is raising children the "Freebirth" way. The Warrior Caste is genetically modified to biologically prevent pregnancy, so if she was asked for a shag she probably would be up for it, doesn't necessarily mean she would enjoy it but she'd do it anyway.
@harkeill LoL you are the one that started this name calling in the first place, and why would I want to discuss this with you anyway, there's nothing to discuss, I'm happy with my sense of humour and isn't even up for discussion, especially with someone like you who starts their "mature discussion" with an immature insult. Hah.
@harkeill Your initial comment was derogative not complimentary, you chose to push this past my first reply in an immature way, so what did you really expect (rhetorical question). I thought you had no more time for me anyway, I guess you're the one making it more than it is. In the interests of maturity lets just agree we have a difference of opinion and leave it at that shall we, otherwise this pointless bickering will go on forever.
So much hatred... I think that you missed the point. Ciro had changed his opinion about the clans after he realized how much honor they have. I imagine that he felt like the Steiner family had betrayed them by making a pact with his lifelong enemy, the Draconis combine. It's actually well thought out.
Meh, I put it down to this series portrayal of the Clans, in which they are blind to the fact that many of their own acts are exceedingly cowardly. Like the time Malthus was chasing a freaking farmer with a bloody Thor. Plus Phelan, even when he was starting to get used to the Clans way of life kept questioning if what he was doing was right, which is more than what Ciro did. Plus I was being sarcastic. I like the Clans, especially the Star Adders.
One of the cool things about this series is that it explores cultural differences and conflicts between the Draconis, Commonwealth, and Clans, and how's there's sometimes a lack of understanding.
It goes more indepth in the novels, which make it overall one of the most popular ever created - not just with the DC and the Clans but also FedCom, the Free Worlds League (circa 3130 era) and all other governments of the Inner Sphere
its not so much a ball as a sphearlike shape comprising all human colonized worlds across the galactic plane. remember space has three dimentions so its probly mor like a lopsided egg, its just shown from a top down view
And yet look at the borders of all the different countries and territories on the planet today and tell me that even ONE country has a perfectly spherical border.
Why must everyone think territories have to be spherical or perfect at all?
adam is useing an awesome a really light and fast assualt mech and star colonol cristan was trying to help adam because she was defeated and claimed as a bondsmen and yes the red clan mech rules im also a jade falcon warrior
The -9M is fairly fast for an IS assault mech at 64km/h. Its heat management is actually pretty good all things considered, at least in CBT. Many other mechs with much worse heat (or more difficult to manage) Atlas -K variant, Mauler, Hauptmann -OB, Banshee -5S all come to mind. Awesome can sustain 80% of its firepower indefinitely, which is pretty damned good at the end of the day.
I was talking just about the speed, but overall of course there are. But, for a 3025/3050 IS 80-90t mech, its much better than the Thug, Zeus. I mean of course the Devastator or Fafnir are better.. I'm simply speaking of that tech level.
I did managed to get an Awesome with full armor and weapons up to 90kph. Awesome + clan weaponry - a good many heat sinks + increased engine size = 90 kph and tricky heat management. Watching terrified light mechs reacting to a 90 ton war machine with full armor keeping up with them, priceless.
I would imagine that the Star Colonel has had a lot of time tinkering with the mech to get it working the way he wants and getting parts, illegal or legal, to better maintain his heat efficiency
There is nothing "illegal" in the Clans when it comes to combat.
To the typical Clan warrior, everything is fair in battle - the point is to win with WHATEVER you have at your disposal, even if it's just a hunting knife
Figures the Bushwacher would be nothing more then a target
greatboka74 2 months ago
THEY ATTACKED MY HOME PLANET!
LuckyAssult 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"I couldn't hit the broadside of a dropshp" love that line
glynny99 10 months ago
I couldn'tn hit the broadside of a dropshop!!
glynny99 10 months ago
i just screamed at my screen "HOW THE FUCK IS YOUR MECH NOT EVEN HURT?"
goddamn the animation and stylization of the mechs is just abysmal...to the point where it's funny.
ingwersengrady 11 months ago
@ingwersengrady Well what do you expect of a cartoon that was produced in the early-mid 90s?
Gallowell 9 months ago
@ingwersengrady It's funny, because Mechwarrior 2 had better graphics...
oblivi0ndoll 2 months ago
:D
0rangaStang 1 year ago
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Azrael88demon 1 year ago
Planetoid filled with volitile gasses
MakaanKar 1 year ago
Symos, not a true bloodname . They can receive a sur name . Phelan kell of the kell hounds earned the name wolf. It depends upon the clan.
MrLeeagee 1 year ago
Just curious, can a freebirth ever achive a bloodname?
Symos 2 years ago
Yes, but its really rare
ajferet 2 years ago
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Symos 2 years ago
@ajferet Well, unless Ciro can earn one,his new buddies won't take him too seriously for being a freebirth.
Symos 2 years ago
@Symos
Until he kills a couple... or dies trying...
ajferet 2 years ago
@ajferet Most likely the latter given how tough trueborns are. Especially if he picks a fight with an elemental. Even without their armour Iwouldn;t fancy a normal guy's chances.
Symos 2 years ago
@Symos:
If a MW has a fight with an elemental, the MW might fight with a handless "Mech or vs. the elemental AND his point...
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If a MW or Elemental has a dispute with a aerojock or naval crewman, they would choose proxies or duel with something like a medusa whip (whatever that is)
ajferet 2 years ago
@ajferet A Medusa whip, Might be the devices Kristin and Nicoli were using in thier trial of position over Ciro in the previous ep/
Symos 2 years ago
@ajferet Not true about the elemental vs Mechwarrior. The Elemental will be alone if he is stupid enough to let himself get into a trial of any sort with a mechwarrior. The idea of wast is one of the worst crimes among the clan, to potential waste an entire point of 5 elementals for one warrior is just that. Plus in the Books there are plenty of situations where a lone elemental fights a mech. In "Test of Vengence" a lone elemental took out a fresh Atlas single handedly.
Firewing26 1 year ago
@Symos Neither a trueborn nor freeborn mechwarrior stands much of a chance against even a unarmoured Elemental.
gribae 1 year ago
@gribae Elementals are physically tough but Phelan Kell and Draconis warriors have beaten Clan elementals in hand to hand...... Lincoln Osis Clan Smoke Jaguars Khan is the most notable to have lost a battle with a Draconis assassin and only survived when fellow elementals saved him.
bloat3d 1 year ago
@bloat3d Perhaps more interesting, though, is their hobbies: Elementals are renowned for playing a variation of 'American' Football, in which a tackle is counted as a negative point for the team.
This came to a head in 3051, when the Ghost Bear clan attacked the planet Sheliak; the defenders, outnumbered and overpowered, tried to be clever and announced their challenge as football. Imagine their surprise to lose their planet, 84 points to 3.
(The Clans: Warriors of Kerensky)
ShiningRayde 1 year ago
@ShiningRayde 'american football' is nothing compared to the real man's game of NRL. Padding, helmet, safety shit - just plain old violence and life threatening injuries: THAT'S sport!
Gallowell 1 year ago
@bloat3d You neglect to mention that in the fight, Osis himself would have died from his wounds if it had not been th chance happening of those elementals to have even found him in the ruins in the first place.
Gallowell 1 year ago
@gribae Nuh uh. Elementals outside of armor are big and intimidating yes but htye can be taken down. plenty of times elementals have been beaten by smaller soldiers. The entire novel "Test of Vengence" is about a Ghost Bear elemental obsesed with finding and beating an innersphere warrior who repeatedly beat him in single combat both in and out of armor. and the IS warrior was not a mechwarrior. I think she Beat the elemental 4 or 5 times before Jake Kabrinski finaly beat her.
Firewing26 1 year ago
WTF...... how does a moon explode like that? An astronomical body with that kind of combustibility would have been obliterated by asteroids aeons ago.
TheBenEEeee 2 years ago
Those are the kinds of questions which the viewer is better off not asking and simply enjoying the show.
gribae 2 years ago
Haha fine.... when I was a kid watching this show I could suspend my disbelief without a hitch - actually, back then I did not disbelief such things at all... now that I'm all grown up and grumpy and cynical I can't seem to stop nitpicking...
TheBenEEeee 2 years ago
The cowards have fleed? Kerensky's descendants forgot how to speak English?
uscbone2009 2 years ago
@uscbone2009
Some clansmen speak Russian... Pyotr
maybye isorla from a more isolated clan... like Hell's Horses or
ajferet 2 years ago
3:21 Ok, what the hell? It takes more than that to drop a Dropship. Plus, I seem to remember Dropships having weapons of their own and taking even a civilian one out was a daunting task.
EvilCleric 2 years ago
4:32 "as your bondsman i am ready and willing to serve you in any capacity you choose"
O rly, strait into my bed for you then..lol
Hask79 2 years ago 10
@Hask79 hahaha perverted b.....d :)
MsGunMetal 1 month ago
@MsGunMetal Hehehe yup. From various novels ive read it appears that Clanners take a very liberal approach to sex, they treat it as simply a recreational actiivity to relieve tension and increase efficiency, love is taboo among the Warrior Caste as is raising children the "Freebirth" way. The Warrior Caste is genetically modified to biologically prevent pregnancy, so if she was asked for a shag she probably would be up for it, doesn't necessarily mean she would enjoy it but she'd do it anyway.
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 Immature.
harkeill 1 month ago
@harkeill Nope, it's called a "sense of humour".
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 Toilet humour more like it.
harkeill 1 month ago
@harkeill Immature troll.
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 This from someone who thinks with his penis instead of being mature, calling me a "troll." What a laugh.
You are the real troll here, by insulting someone rather than discussing it rationally.
I have no more time from you, so do not even bother replying. I am ignoring and blocking you now.
harkeill 1 month ago
@harkeill LoL you are the one that started this name calling in the first place, and why would I want to discuss this with you anyway, there's nothing to discuss, I'm happy with my sense of humour and isn't even up for discussion, especially with someone like you who starts their "mature discussion" with an immature insult. Hah.
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 Name calling? I didn't call you anything. All I said was that your comment was immature. So I think you're making it more than it is.
harkeill 1 month ago
@harkeill Your initial comment was derogative not complimentary, you chose to push this past my first reply in an immature way, so what did you really expect (rhetorical question). I thought you had no more time for me anyway, I guess you're the one making it more than it is. In the interests of maturity lets just agree we have a difference of opinion and leave it at that shall we, otherwise this pointless bickering will go on forever.
Hask79 1 month ago
@Hask79 It was not degoratory. I merely pointed out that of all the things you said, you went with the most immature thing.
But I am not not going to make a big deal out of nothing, so I am backing out of this debate now.
harkeill 1 month ago
@harkeill Well i guess we have our own opinions as to what's derogative, and it was never a debate, it was a bicker. Peace out.
Hask79 1 month ago
Adam should have blown off Ciro's arms and left him on the rock to die. worthless clan-rat traitor
ottselguy 2 years ago
So much hatred... I think that you missed the point. Ciro had changed his opinion about the clans after he realized how much honor they have. I imagine that he felt like the Steiner family had betrayed them by making a pact with his lifelong enemy, the Draconis combine. It's actually well thought out.
jaceaerojock 2 years ago
Maybe the same should have been done to that other Clan-rat traitor....what was his name? Something like Phelan Ward.
EvilCleric 2 years ago
Phelan was actually wise in his decision. It actually proved worthwhile for the Wolves-in-exile clan when they became the renewed Clan Wolf.
knightShadowWolf 2 years ago
Meh, I put it down to this series portrayal of the Clans, in which they are blind to the fact that many of their own acts are exceedingly cowardly. Like the time Malthus was chasing a freaking farmer with a bloody Thor. Plus Phelan, even when he was starting to get used to the Clans way of life kept questioning if what he was doing was right, which is more than what Ciro did. Plus I was being sarcastic. I like the Clans, especially the Star Adders.
EvilCleric 2 years ago
'wise in his decision.' That is merely a matter of perspective.
gribae 2 years ago
well the battletech universe is just ours in space... not surprised that even another 1000+ years didnt do much to slate human ignorence
ottselguy 2 years ago
This video stops loading at 19:38...
:<
CrazyEnzo03 2 years ago
The Clans are order.
Order over chaos anyday :)
panzermarch1944 2 years ago
At 2:10 it seems like they were going to cut (or contemplating it) the bondsman's cord, provided they never animated the cord to begin with.
AnsatsuRaKarth 2 years ago
One of the cool things about this series is that it explores cultural differences and conflicts between the Draconis, Commonwealth, and Clans, and how's there's sometimes a lack of understanding.
Zingu00 2 years ago 5
It goes more indepth in the novels, which make it overall one of the most popular ever created - not just with the DC and the Clans but also FedCom, the Free Worlds League (circa 3130 era) and all other governments of the Inner Sphere
gribae 2 years ago
@Zingu00 It's odd how they don't ask what a "bondsmen" is, you'd think they would.
TheGroundedAviator 1 month ago
I makes me wonder how can dozens of planets form a large ball
Arzaker 3 years ago
its not so much a ball as a sphearlike shape comprising all human colonized worlds across the galactic plane. remember space has three dimentions so its probly mor like a lopsided egg, its just shown from a top down view
ottselguy 2 years ago
It could be disc like.
After all, this is a galaxy we're talking about. The Galaxy, and the milky way is also shaped like a disc... albeit with Sprial arms.
chaz706 2 years ago
And yet look at the borders of all the different countries and territories on the planet today and tell me that even ONE country has a perfectly spherical border.
Why must everyone think territories have to be spherical or perfect at all?
gribae 2 years ago
Geez! I was only talking about the general dimensions!
chaz706 2 years ago
adam is useing an awesome a really light and fast assualt mech and star colonol cristan was trying to help adam because she was defeated and claimed as a bondsmen and yes the red clan mech rules im also a jade falcon warrior
ljp167 3 years ago 2
an awesome is anything but light and fast. lol. it over heats all the time to.
(when a clanner becomes a bondsman he/she looses all rank)
the red mech is supposed to be a summoner/thor
robspartan117 3 years ago
yes robspartan an Awesome is light and fast, only if you make it that way in a mechwarrior game and you can disable heat with the options menu
ljp167 3 years ago
so you cheated, which means nothing.
robspartan117 3 years ago
nope heat just bugs me, i also save alot of room to pack on move weapons and speed but when im fighting serious like in campaign i turn heat on
ljp167 3 years ago
The -9M is fairly fast for an IS assault mech at 64km/h. Its heat management is actually pretty good all things considered, at least in CBT. Many other mechs with much worse heat (or more difficult to manage) Atlas -K variant, Mauler, Hauptmann -OB, Banshee -5S all come to mind. Awesome can sustain 80% of its firepower indefinitely, which is pretty damned good at the end of the day.
No1118117 3 years ago
64 kph is not fast in CBT
i didnt say anything about its heat effeciency - i used to own a couple awesomes - but i traded them off for better mechs
robspartan117 3 years ago
I'd call it above average for an IS assault mech..
No1118117 3 years ago
i sure dont, there are alot better IS assaults out there for: Damage/Range Ratio, Armor, and Heat Efficiency
robspartan117 3 years ago
I was talking just about the speed, but overall of course there are. But, for a 3025/3050 IS 80-90t mech, its much better than the Thug, Zeus. I mean of course the Devastator or Fafnir are better.. I'm simply speaking of that tech level.
No1118117 3 years ago
I did managed to get an Awesome with full armor and weapons up to 90kph. Awesome + clan weaponry - a good many heat sinks + increased engine size = 90 kph and tricky heat management. Watching terrified light mechs reacting to a 90 ton war machine with full armor keeping up with them, priceless.
EvilCleric 2 years ago
somthing about a woman with an eyepatch and tatoo's on her face that i find irrisistable lol. gota love that vulture/ mad dog.
DefilerhXc 3 years ago
Until she wrings your neck for even thinking of coupling with a Trashborn?
gribae 3 years ago 2
its not tatoo's is circutry
robspartan117 3 years ago
w00t child of the 90's
Sibemaster12 3 years ago
Aren't both parties supposed to say "Well bargined, and done" before it's official?
TheDarkLord404 3 years ago
yes
robspartan117 3 years ago
What mech is Adam using ?
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
Awesome.
Kissamiess 3 years ago
Yeah,Sorry i already know now =P ^^
Kennyboy0077 3 years ago
The Red Clan mech is overpowered
Kennyboy0077 4 years ago
thor? surprisingly it has less weaponry in the mechwarriorgames
chaplainkes 3 years ago
yep, its an underpowered clan mech
which is really rare, lol
robspartan117 3 years ago
I would imagine that the Star Colonel has had a lot of time tinkering with the mech to get it working the way he wants and getting parts, illegal or legal, to better maintain his heat efficiency
knightShadowWolf 2 years ago
hmm yes it makes sense especially with someone of higher rank.
chaplainkes 2 years ago
@knightShadowWolf
There is nothing "illegal" in the Clans when it comes to combat.
To the typical Clan warrior, everything is fair in battle - the point is to win with WHATEVER you have at your disposal, even if it's just a hunting knife
gribae 2 years ago
Gee they loved the Hunchback IIC in this one. I thought that they were only used in backwater garrisons on the clan home planets.
kensei1984 4 years ago
It made it's careere at Carver V later in 3063... Verry nice mid-chacie
YuriPRIME 4 years ago
Dude you are then man! You have replaced a lost chunk of my childhood with this!
madmozuk 4 years ago 12
Hold on, hold on, hold on... ONE explosion caused the whole planet to explode? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
2NangMan 4 years ago 2
give it a couple of minutes to precache, then play it... it should load
b1gbird001 4 years ago 2
yay playing finally! take that pixie! say hello to your family in hell!!!
Aderath 5 years ago 2
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO its not playing! A curse on the techno pixies infesting this computer!
Aderath 5 years ago
...and on the 8th day God made.... BattleTech
paulchettle 5 years ago 18
amen
chas1123 4 years ago
._." (lol) ._."
God wwill be mad at you >.>
321Sweet123 4 years ago
@paulchettle and on the 9th day God made the MechWarrior
epsilon7466Mk2 1 year ago 2
WOOT!
WolfKnight27 5 years ago