StarCraft 2 - KiLLeR [Z] vs DdoRo [P] G2 - Commentary

[Ray0X0]

Lately dKiller looks some tired, saturated I would say... probably needs some resting...

[grodzilla2]

UGH! I need to sleep! These vids are too good!

[XtremeOCer]

ahhaahh sweet Protoss play :)

[SatanClauze]

Retards saying zerg up toss op...you guys are even worse than the battlenet forums, and that's saying something. Just shut up and accept the fact that this player, as well as you yourself, lost games due to messing up in the game.

Good cast force

[1DenSity1]

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[1DenSity1]

@xxthethinktanxx XD wai u troll? If you're gunna qq qq on the

[Kiniler]

@1972demondodge all 3 races have pros and cons

-zerg is probably the hardest to manage macro, larvae, rally points, creep spread, overlord placement, alot of things

-protoss need to have very crisp micro, one misplaced ff, one bad blink timing, colos out of position, can all cost you the game

-terran needs the best game sense and need to have perfect timings on when to move out or when to transition, when to siege up, when to push or when to pull back, one bad decision can cost you the game

[xXTheThinkTankXx]

I was fixing to say Force, Killer wasn't overwhelmed, FF are just really good... OP IMO

[Godspart0n]

@xXTheThinkTankXx haha i laugh at people like you

[MrHorologistHohoho]

I say blizzard should increase the size of the fungal growth animation on the stalker, could barely see any on them

[PesarTarofi]

This toss player is sickkk

[wesker723]

people still think the game is balanced. the last 3 series has proved that even pro's aren't that great with zerg because zerg is under powered compared to terran and toss

[1972demondodge]

@wesker723 Zerg is just really hard to use have seen people completley hand Terran and Toss there ass

[2JoeStudios]

@1972demondodge what is harder at zerg than at other races?

[1972demondodge]

@2JoeStudios I have found that if you dont do early agro you really have to be more defensive with them and let your enemys attack first and counter that scouting is even more important for zerg than the others so that you can have the counter ready most zerg losses i have seen and experienced come form lack of scouting leading to lack of prepardness for the defense and then counter

[2JoeStudios]

@wesker723 yeah right that's why toss is at a 45% winrate in both match ups. And doesn't win shit in tournaments

[xXTheThinkTankXx]

@2JoeStudios Toss need l2p, and quit qqing fake stats...

[2JoeStudios]

@xXTheThinkTankXx XD you have no idea nooby

[xXTheThinkTankXx]

@2JoeStudios You just said nooby... I hope you kill yourself tonight by drowning in your own vomit you fucking retard.

[2JoeStudios]

@xXTheThinkTankXx XXXXXXDDDDDDDD hahahhahah u mad bro

haha i am so gonna use this next time i want to insult somebody XXDDDD

[Godspart0n]

@wesker723 you're stupid. just because a zerg loses some games doesn't mean zerg is under powered,. statistically, the win rate of the 3 races are almost the same. the zerg just got outplayed.

[wesker723]

@Godspart0n i'm not stupid for having an opinion. zerg lack splash damage crowed control and have a slight disadvantage in build speed. IMO they are not beginning gamer friendly at all. take your knowledge of SC 2 and 1 away for a second and say u just pick up the game. formulate an opinion of the 3 races based on how easy it is to play any of them just starting out. did it ever occur to u that i might not be pro expert or even great at this game? i don't want it to be easy but intuitive.

[SatanClauze]

@wesker723 What you just said doesn't really match with what you said before. Your original flamebaiting post was a claim that zerg is underpowered to toss and terran (which by the way is totally untrue). Your claim that they aren't intuitive isn't totally true either. I have friends who pick up the game and can get their larva injects right on 3 bases by the first week. Therefore, it's clear that zerg isn''t meant for you if you found in unintuitive, don't blame it on balance.

[Godspart0n]

@wesker723 you are not stupid for having an opinion, you are stupid for having an opinion and basing it on 3 games. i wil admit zerg is the hardest of the 3 races to play, but not by alot. and that does not make up for how much better zerg is than every other race. zerg splash damage: fungals, ultras, and banelings. and just because zerg has some disadvantages doesn't mean they're bad, they have many ohter aspects that make up for it.

[wesker723]

@Godspart0n well tell ya what pal you're a fucking asshole for your opinion. mine didn't insult anyone but now the gloves are off. you talk shit on the internet but in person i doubt you would have the balls to tell someone, anyone, their stupid to their face. you're a coward , a joke and an indecent person. fuck you and the horse you road in on you god damn loser. reply away but i'm done with this thread i've said my piece and had enough of your stupidity.

[Godspart0n]

@wesker723 actually your comment offended alot of people by saying zerg is the worst race, therefore implying that wins on zerg players are somehow not deserved. and now because i called you stupid on the internet for a logical reason im a coward a joke and an indecent person? haha you really are stupid, know when you're beat.

[matsurika1]

@Godspart0n Regardless of balance (I have not played for nearly a year), wouldn't winning with the 'worst' race mean the win was actually more than deserved...?

[Godspart0n]

@matsurika1 "wins on zerg players" means winning versus a zerg player, and when saying that zerg in underpowered, it implys that winning versus a zerg is not because you are better, but because you play a easier and better race :)

[abbottone]

Got the 5th base when should have got some more units

[Gyozomroka]

@abbottone he was maxed....

[abbottone]

@Gyozomroka He put down his 5th when his units were only 171/200, he then only managed to have 185(/171) at the final confrontation: 18 min mark. (It also forced him to have his broadlords down the bottom, so his units were well split apart). IMO (Bronze league), he took the 5th too quickly and could have got his units to 200 asap (even with speedlings) and sacraficed them when he needed to replace them with better units when he was ready to push out.

[Gyozomroka]

@abbottone his supply was lower at the final confrontation because he lost drones due to spine spamming and building extractors at his expo. His army was basically maxed. And I may be wrong, but I don't think taking the expo hurt him because his minerals were so high. Taking the base didn't slow his unit production at all. As a diamond zerg ( =P ) I don't think the expo hurt him. I think it was mostly due to poor upgrades, poor positioning, and so-so unit composition.

[Kiniler]

@abbottone Your comment is as arrogant as it is retarded

[Balika90Addict]

Oh sry so I was talking about the 1st game

[Balika90Addict]

Force, by seeing this vid I have an idea for you, if you don't mind. So you could make a series called beginner's guide or i dunno and analyze every vid and the mistakes made for instance here it is very dangerous for zerg to drone up even if he denied the opp's expo cuz he will be vulnerable for an all-in. You know something like that, noobs (like myself) could really learn from these kind of things instead of looking build orders n' stuff

[DesaPelangi]

@Balika90Addict i think force did this thing called "community spotlight"



[Bobsols]

OMG Finally before the 300th viewer!!

[cafemm]

nice cast

[ComAntNeLib]

dam you upload all these games fast

[Saeedsc]

pro spine is pro

[pakstrax]

What are you doing Force!? F&F Diablo 3 BETA started! We need some news, asap!!!

[Saeedsc]

second!

[AekoWins]

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