@fantacist A conductor determines the tempo, the dynamics, and the feel of the piece (and much more) in the way they interpret it. I guess a bad conductor is one who interpreted a composition very badly.
@belugafishgod it took me a second to get that. even though my old band directer used to crack those kinds of jokes all the time. i feel stupid now...
@florisvalent91 I know what you mean. I'm really into hip hop as well, but there's no denying that this is one epic piece of music. Plus, those first few bars of flute are just begging to be sampled.
just saw this live a few days ago. . . . . fuck it was great :), hearing the cellos come through with the motif. . . nothing like hearing a live orchestra play
Bernstein doesnt get the opening to this symphony, Mahler writes a little rit on the first three quavers of the violins. There's no gap between the f sharp and g in the score as there is in this performance. The first 4 notes of the violins is one phrase with a slide between the f sharp and the g. Missing in Bernstein's interpretation.
How to de-viennese Mahler's 4th symphony, by Bernstein.
@pointreyes6 there isn't any gap here either? if you listened carefully you'd have heard that it's just the dynamics of the phrase that makes it seem to be a gap.. in my eyes berstein did a wonderful job, first of all he didn't de-viennese it. this id good old viennese-style with a touch of berstein. simply amazing
um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
@freshhh1994 Wow you and brie22tati need to figure your stuff out. This is definitely NOT any part of Mahler's First. The second movement of "Titan" is a dance-like movement with a triple feel while the third movement is one of the most famous movements in the symphonic repertoire with the Frere Jacques theme in the minor mode. You'd recognize it if you heard it.
You must have misread my post. He was asking for the Mahler piece in which Frere Jacques is played in the minor key (which IS the 1st symphony, 3rd mvt.). I've listened to Mahler's 1st many times before and am quite familiar with it.
@flowforms Nope because he's a very bad singer (his voice doesn't give innovation to us). I hope that he is the creator of his songs and he knows a little bit about music (notes, theory) and he can take this symphony for example of inspiration source.
I know I'll get a lot of rocks thrown at me, but I've heard many a performance of this work and I think the best is by...Karajan w/The Berlin Phil on DG. No kidding... I'm gonna go hide.
In terms of epic classical music, Mahler stands far above the rest. Not to say the others aren't great, but Mahler can bring such a darkness, yet possesses such class. And one of the greatest orchestras and conductor has done well.
@seahmahler1 your great great great uncle was a sheer genious, and in my opinion the most amazing composer. His music is all very complex and beautiful. I wish I could be related even a little bit to such a man : )
Mahler was certainly a great composer, and like Bruckner recognition was slow in coming. Another great, but still unjustly neglected, composer is Franz Schmidt. Anyone interested in the music of Bruckner, Mahler or Strauss should get a copy of the recording of Schmidt's Fouth Symphony by the Vienna Philharmonic, conducted by Zubin Mehta.
Hey guys - lighten up on seanmahler, he is only 11. He is just proud of the relationship (we had it confirmed by a genealogist who searched the public record that we are distant relatives, he is my father's great,great uncle). Meaningless to me, but if instills some pride into the heart of an 11 year old boy, then it is indeed a great thing.
@Seanmahler1 I'd be proud if i where releated to him Sean..your uncle wrote some of the most astoundingly beautiful music this planet has ever heard :) Tom
I know what you mean. The station I listen to plays a lot of top 40. Don't get me wrong - hearing Beethoven's fifth regularly is awesome, but I would love to hear stuff that I haven't heard yet.
Klemperer was one of Mahler's last conducting students. Have any of you heard his conducting of this symphony? Couldn't we agree the tempi would most nearly match what Mahler had in mind? - and the rubato portions? I adore Bernstein and Boulez as conductors, but their interps of this piece have always seemed quixotic to me.
A conductor is the Job of interpreting the music. At the performance itself all the conductor's job is to keep time. There is so much more to being a condutor than what most people relize. Especially with a conductor of this par.
Rafael Kubelick's performance is very good. also, Mengelberg (despite the whole story about him and the circumstances in which he played/and wated to play mahler) also has rather specific performance and shows quite a respect to the linearity of Mahler's form in the performance (of Mahler's 4th,of course)
Not so true. For Mahler, composing was only a a part-time activity, secondary to his conducting duties. For much of his life, Mahler was resigned to composing only during the summer months.
@freshhh1994 Technically correct, but careful with your wording! From Mahler's personal notes, he most definitely didn't think of composing as secondary—he was just forced to treat it as such. He wrote whenever he could, and was likely frustrated that so much of his time was taken up with conducting, even though he certainly appreciated the insight into composition that his conducting experience gave him.
@curlyman217 Love your comment, and I agree...to a point! If he had actually had a lot of free time (and had been in better health), he would have written more, I think. Ah, to think of what else he may have shared with us! As it was, his conducting career kept him so busy that he only had time to compose, pretty much, in the summer time. I often wonder where he could have taken Music after the 9th Symphony. Mahler is definitely my all-time favourite symphonist.
Mahler wouldn't care: cf. Mahler, A Musical Physiognomy, TW Adorno: Mahler used pop elements to make serious music as a way of saying that while there's a difference, the two opposites are organically linked.
The concertmaster looks like Sean Lock, so I can't stop giggling a little bit. :)
EvelynneSaysHi 1 week ago
send down an angel and no next time both by allison moorer are way better musical pieces.
you can hear both on youtube.
benjeded 2 weeks ago
@benjeded If you're a total moron, yes.
MjoEm32 1 week ago
The rock band Boston was way better than Mahler.
And so is singer/songwriter Allison Moorer.
I'm dead serious, folks.
benjeded 2 weeks ago
@benjeded poor you...
ComputerFreakozoide 1 week ago
the music flows like wine.,.
its beauty revealed in
every drop of notes flowing.,.
it bubbles gently.,.
magnificent.,.
primamortis 1 month ago
for some reason the beginning with the bells and the flutes reminds me of the Nightmare Before Christmas :P
merman4 2 months ago 2
Honestly, what makes a good or bad conductor?
fantacist 3 months ago
@fantacist A conductor determines the tempo, the dynamics, and the feel of the piece (and much more) in the way they interpret it. I guess a bad conductor is one who interpreted a composition very badly.
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this is very good,but (for me) lacks the freshness and sense of line that Kubelik brings to this movement.
allegramente5000 3 months ago
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this is very good,but (for me) lacks the freshness and sense of line that Kubelik brings to this movement.
allegramente5000 3 months ago
this is very good,but (for me) lacks the freshness and sense of line that Kubelik brings to this movement.
allegramente5000 3 months ago
Agree: this is the most lyrical of all Mahler symphonies. The interpretation is phenomenal!
albeharal 4 months ago in playlist Mahler 4 - Wiener Philharmoniker
The similarities to Tchaikovsky in particular the Nutcracker are striking
SYVZS 4 months ago
einfach nur wunderschön...... :)
greatlotrfan 5 months ago
This is as beautiful and fascinating as his 3rd is clumsy and tedious.
SendInTheChickens 5 months ago
Is that a baroque oboe?
collinlloyd 5 months ago
@collinlloyd Looks like it's working fine to me. Haha. Sorry, couldn't resist.
belugafishgod 4 months ago 3
@belugafishgod it took me a second to get that. even though my old band directer used to crack those kinds of jokes all the time. i feel stupid now...
SaharaxXxDesert 3 months ago
@SaharaxXxDesert I tried explaining this joke to my wife who is not a musician. Now I feel stupid.
belugafishgod 3 months ago
one of my favorite symphonies. Im performing this with my orchestra :)
Performerx43 6 months ago
Horn at 1:26
XavierAJones 7 months ago
one of my favourite pieces of music of all time, which is weird, because my main interests lie in the underground hip-hop/electro-scenes..
florisvalent91 8 months ago
@florisvalent91 I know what you mean. I'm really into hip hop as well, but there's no denying that this is one epic piece of music. Plus, those first few bars of flute are just begging to be sampled.
CrazyGuyMeh 4 months ago
bravissimo!!
PUREMALT100 8 months ago
the melody from those clarinettes at 02:24 won't go out of my head I LOVE IT ! I <3 mahler's music !
pennerdwo 9 months ago
i'm no horn player, but that solo was magnificent!
fuchion15 9 months ago
just saw this live a few days ago. . . . . fuck it was great :), hearing the cellos come through with the motif. . . nothing like hearing a live orchestra play
luffinbitbybit 9 months ago
Bernstein conducted Mahler's fourth thusly, and afterwards he headed to the 52nd Street, to hear Ornette Coleman play with his quartet.
when musicians are open minded, it's amazing what they can do
FliegendeHollaender 10 months ago
this is one of the best recordings ever, and berstein actually does the dynamics! Also the development is amazing, and the concert master is the bomb
MrPieperj 11 months ago
3 people didn't get the memo about Mahler....
charliedelph 11 months ago
Bernstein doesnt get the opening to this symphony, Mahler writes a little rit on the first three quavers of the violins. There's no gap between the f sharp and g in the score as there is in this performance. The first 4 notes of the violins is one phrase with a slide between the f sharp and the g. Missing in Bernstein's interpretation.
How to de-viennese Mahler's 4th symphony, by Bernstein.
pointreyes6 11 months ago
@pointreyes6 there isn't any gap here either? if you listened carefully you'd have heard that it's just the dynamics of the phrase that makes it seem to be a gap.. in my eyes berstein did a wonderful job, first of all he didn't de-viennese it. this id good old viennese-style with a touch of berstein. simply amazing
thebluegoldfish 8 months ago
((((((((((( Thank you! )))))))))))
CurzonRoad 1 year ago
Anybody know what kind of horns they are playing on? GO HORNS!! :D
HornGoddess08 1 year ago 2
um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
MrPieperj 1 year ago
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um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
MrPieperj 1 year ago
um, sorry but this is the 4th symphony, first mov. Also, I would consider this symphony a precursor to his 5th, and 9th. (as well as the 1st...) express absolute music which is beyond(or in union with) words. Finally this piece if you really examine it, is Bach. The counterpoint used in the symphony rivals both Bach and Schoenberg at the same time, with the same harmonic complexity and symmetry( or asymmetry) as Beethoven. Above all, Berstein is by far one of the greatest musicians of our time
MrPieperj 1 year ago
@Handsoffmyramen It's his first symphony - Titan in D major. 2nd movement.
brie22tati 1 year ago
@Handsoffmyramen
It's his first symphony - Titan in D major. 2nd movement.
brie22tati 1 year ago
Which one is the one that sounds like frere jaques, but in a minor key?
Handsoffmyramen 1 year ago
@Handsoffmyramen
1st symphony, THIRD movement.
freshhh1994 1 year ago
@freshhh1994 Wow you and brie22tati need to figure your stuff out. This is definitely NOT any part of Mahler's First. The second movement of "Titan" is a dance-like movement with a triple feel while the third movement is one of the most famous movements in the symphonic repertoire with the Frere Jacques theme in the minor mode. You'd recognize it if you heard it.
117CamBam 1 year ago
@117CamBam
You must have misread my post. He was asking for the Mahler piece in which Frere Jacques is played in the minor key (which IS the 1st symphony, 3rd mvt.). I've listened to Mahler's 1st many times before and am quite familiar with it.
freshhh1994 1 year ago
Justin Bierber should listen that.
Manulion1er 1 year ago
@Manulion1er no, he should sing it........ he's good enough isnt he? He could just use vowels and riff along with them...
flowforms 1 year ago
@flowforms Nope because he's a very bad singer (his voice doesn't give innovation to us). I hope that he is the creator of his songs and he knows a little bit about music (notes, theory) and he can take this symphony for example of inspiration source.
Manulion1er 1 year ago
I know I'll get a lot of rocks thrown at me, but I've heard many a performance of this work and I think the best is by...Karajan w/The Berlin Phil on DG. No kidding... I'm gonna go hide.
iraeich 1 year ago
I can hear his influence over Shostakovich. It's always so fascinating to notice things like that! :-)
username14657 1 year ago
In terms of epic classical music, Mahler stands far above the rest. Not to say the others aren't great, but Mahler can bring such a darkness, yet possesses such class. And one of the greatest orchestras and conductor has done well.
fcmilsweeper9 1 year ago
@fcmilsweeper9 "In terms of epic classical music, Mahler stands far above the rest."
Above Beethoven? Absurd.
Jitpring 1 year ago
@seahmahler1 your great great great uncle was a sheer genious, and in my opinion the most amazing composer. His music is all very complex and beautiful. I wish I could be related even a little bit to such a man : )
cellofellow1223 1 year ago
@cellofellow1223
Mahler was certainly a great composer, and like Bruckner recognition was slow in coming. Another great, but still unjustly neglected, composer is Franz Schmidt. Anyone interested in the music of Bruckner, Mahler or Strauss should get a copy of the recording of Schmidt's Fouth Symphony by the Vienna Philharmonic, conducted by Zubin Mehta.
evajom1 1 year ago
Love Bernstein's Mahler. One of the best interpreter for Mahler symphonies!
akayueh 1 year ago
Hey guys - lighten up on seanmahler, he is only 11. He is just proud of the relationship (we had it confirmed by a genealogist who searched the public record that we are distant relatives, he is my father's great,great uncle). Meaningless to me, but if instills some pride into the heart of an 11 year old boy, then it is indeed a great thing.
davemahler 1 year ago
@davemahler "Meaningless to me..." That's too bad. It shouldn't be.
Jitpring 1 year ago
i appreciate people still remembering my great great great uncle
Seanmahler1 1 year ago
@Seanmahler1 I'm surprised you're related to him. Last time I checked, my father and I are of few descents of the Mahler tree.
TheWoWNerd1980 1 year ago
@Seanmahler1 So what if you are related to Mahler, or Mozart, or anyone else? Talent isn't conferred by association.
HotSo0P 1 year ago
@HotSo0P just remembered a saying - "lightning of genius doesn't choose where to strike" ;)
sharathesnarky 1 year ago
im related to him
Seanmahler1 1 year ago
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@Seanmahler1
shut the fuck up nigger
frasierdog 1 year ago
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@frasierdog you're not very bright are you?
Themothia2 1 year ago
@Seanmahler1 I'd be proud if i where releated to him Sean..your uncle wrote some of the most astoundingly beautiful music this planet has ever heard :) Tom
thom8406 1 year ago
@thom8406 Agreed
cellofellow1223 1 year ago
@Seanmahler1 nobody gives a fuck.
memphis148 9 months ago
I love this symphony. I just heard it a couple days ago on the radio, and I was amazed. So beautiful...
giligara30492 1 year ago
@giligara30492 Surprised to hear they woulda play Mahler on the radio! The station I listen to plays mozart, Mozart, and sometimes a little Mozart.
mahler151 1 year ago
@mahler151
I know what you mean. The station I listen to plays a lot of top 40. Don't get me wrong - hearing Beethoven's fifth regularly is awesome, but I would love to hear stuff that I haven't heard yet.
giligara30492 1 year ago
@giligara30492 Station you have sounds awsome. The station I listen to plays more Lully than Beethoven!
mahler151 1 year ago
@mahler151
Hmmm... What station is this?
giligara30492 1 year ago
@giligara30492 I think it's FM WKSU. It's the only classical station I get on my MP3 player and I listen to the Jazz station more, hahahahaha.
mahler151 1 year ago
@mahler151
Ah. I also do love jazz, but I don't listen to it much...
giligara30492 1 year ago
@giligara30492 It's more of a whenever I don't feel like conducting while listening that I'll listen to Jazz, haha!
mahler151 1 year ago
just beautiful!
thanks 4 sharing this video!
greetings from Ecuador
TheMsGracie 1 year ago
Awesome !!!
harpmusic1 1 year ago
Klemperer was one of Mahler's last conducting students. Have any of you heard his conducting of this symphony? Couldn't we agree the tempi would most nearly match what Mahler had in mind? - and the rubato portions? I adore Bernstein and Boulez as conductors, but their interps of this piece have always seemed quixotic to me.
williejax2 1 year ago
its my least favorite of the mahler symphonies for some reason...
chaoticplay10 1 year ago
Awesome symphony! Great version!
Violetatorelli 1 year ago
A conductor is the Job of interpreting the music. At the performance itself all the conductor's job is to keep time. There is so much more to being a condutor than what most people relize. Especially with a conductor of this par.
TovenAAA 1 year ago
@TovenAAA oh yes! Especially because the people don't see or hear the rehersals... thats a lot of work and interpreting!
blumedersahara 1 year ago
you posted the second part in response... thank you. Everyone has to learn to do the same with his own videos.
newFranzFerencLiszt 1 year ago
It's just so weird that the oboist sounds like a harmon muted trumpet... kinda odd. but still one of my favorite performances of Mahler 4.
1337evan 1 year ago
My favorite Mahler conductor is Bruno Walter, although boulez Abbado and Kubelik (along with Bearnstein) are all great.
mahler151 2 years ago
Debilita :-*
LiLmimiLIL 2 years ago
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the video is much then great but the music is not special
TudorTulok 2 years ago
i really gotta disagree...a guy flapping his hands around isn't that great yet the music is awesome
unleashedbog 1 year ago
Yes, this is great but Kubelik is greater
PEPEDEBARRO 2 years ago
Bernstien !!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!! SECOND BEST CONDUCTOR EVER !!
Mozafunkula 2 years ago 3
Great !!
noirvalentin 2 years ago
AWESOME!!!!! i DON''T EVBEN WANT TO TRY AND DESCRIBE IT
MasterAzunai 2 years ago
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TovenAAA 2 years ago
.. FANTASTIC .!
aiiOteknoLOgY15 2 years ago
My favourite Mahler conductor is Rafael Kubelik.
SonofDostojevskij 2 years ago
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ChalieChaplin 2 years ago
premiered in 1901, this is the most lyrical and classic of Mahler's symphonies, here with the ever excellent conductor Bernstein.
beethomozart 2 years ago 8
Penderecki on French horn...
Kurtyoungblood 2 years ago
lol
etucker82 2 years ago
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Bernstein makes Mahler wholly unenjoyable and vulgar, if only the Bertini videos were on here.
pastrychef1985 3 years ago
Bernstein is considered by many the "Champion of Mahler". I disagree with you but i am interested in the details as to why you think this?
bmatt05 2 years ago 4
Bernstein and Michael Tilson Thomas are the greatest interpreters of Mahler's works. Pierre Boulez is a close third.
DocRivera 2 years ago
Rafael Kubelick's performance is very good. also, Mengelberg (despite the whole story about him and the circumstances in which he played/and wated to play mahler) also has rather specific performance and shows quite a respect to the linearity of Mahler's form in the performance (of Mahler's 4th,of course)
bruillard 2 years ago
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DocRivera 2 years ago
Vulgar? How so? There's nothing vulgar about this. Sounds more like sarcasm to me.
GoatDaddyVersion2 2 years ago
"Bernstein is one of the most overrated and adulated conductors of recent times"
(The Compleat Conductor By Gunther Schuller)
Watching this video I tend to agree.
oboistru 3 years ago
Many thanks for uploading the videos of the GREAT composer MAHLER.
ahmadjawadi 3 years ago
thank goodness mahler had a lot of free time
curlyman217 3 years ago 71
@curlyman217 so true :)
Nimiauredhel 1 year ago
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Not so true. For Mahler, composing was only a a part-time activity, secondary to his conducting duties. For much of his life, Mahler was resigned to composing only during the summer months.
freshhh1994 1 year ago
@freshhh1994 Technically correct, but careful with your wording! From Mahler's personal notes, he most definitely didn't think of composing as secondary—he was just forced to treat it as such. He wrote whenever he could, and was likely frustrated that so much of his time was taken up with conducting, even though he certainly appreciated the insight into composition that his conducting experience gave him.
TheRealmsOfGold 1 year ago
@curlyman217 Love your comment, and I agree...to a point! If he had actually had a lot of free time (and had been in better health), he would have written more, I think. Ah, to think of what else he may have shared with us! As it was, his conducting career kept him so busy that he only had time to compose, pretty much, in the summer time. I often wonder where he could have taken Music after the 9th Symphony. Mahler is definitely my all-time favourite symphonist.
originaltommy 8 months ago
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originaltommy 8 months ago
@curlyman217 he actually had a few..imagine if he could have had a lot more of free time!!
rodoShaolin2 7 months ago in playlist Mahler 4 - Wiener Philharmoniker
I love the way this movement starts with the sleigh bells and flutes. Very beautiful. Makes me think of Christmas.
Kohntarkosz 3 years ago
Lol, yesterday my conductor said: this must not sound like christmas!
Sanneky 3 years ago
Well, I'm one of those philistine rock music fans and self taught musicians, so what do I know? To me, it already sounds like Christmas.
Kohntarkosz 3 years ago
Mahler wouldn't care: cf. Mahler, A Musical Physiognomy, TW Adorno: Mahler used pop elements to make serious music as a way of saying that while there's a difference, the two opposites are organically linked.
spinoza1111 3 years ago
I love the vienna horns!!!
wesmantooth777 3 years ago 2
Thanks so much- I'm playing the bass part of this for an audition, and listening to this has really helped!
aimsme 3 years ago
Very awesome.
ggcoa 3 years ago 4
Thank you very much for this wonderful Mahler's symphony !
atralfalgar 3 years ago 3
06:49 horn solo
satnikigor 3 years ago 25
@satnikigor
even tho this comment is like 2 years old..i still agree! <3
noerml 1 year ago
@satnikigor
noerml 1 year ago
@satnikigor Check the eyebrows! and his cool style too
wearetheggmeninit 9 months ago