if u were eated by a blackhole you will be transported in other parts of universe and after that you will die!! I hate those blackholes!! I wish they have 1% gravity
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Black Holes don't exist. The way galaxies rotate, and their violent ejections of matter jets, do not conform to expectations based on gravity. To account for these and other anomalies, such speculative devices as "dark matter" – at the last count numbering seven different varieties – "dark energy," matter collapsing into black holes, and similar exotic mechanisms that have never been observed are introduced to make the theory fit the facts. Electricity powers the universe:
Well actually you cannot see a black hole because it's actually invisible, its simply a small tiny point where space and time does not exist even light cannot escape it, just to sump it up you cannot see a black hole, only when it starts to consume something, u will be able to see an outline.
So, instead of the "BlackHole" being an actual "Hole"..., it's really a gigantic black round figure or, ball(if you will), spinning with unexceptional gravitational pull?
BLACK HOLE IS NOT AN OBJECT. It is created due the conjugation of the gravitational fields of stars encircling in a group or cluster. Read REALISTIC PRINCIPLES by Tenzin Dhakpa Agongtsang, ISBN: 978-1-4349-9203-1.
why are black-holes always portrayed as having a "spin" (with rotational poles) and "jets" ...>>> mass without volume, has NO angular rotational component. think about it ? ;)
You couldn't call it a Black Star!! Because black holes doesn't have any volume... A star, black star, will be like the brown dwarf stars (just darker, hehe). They still has a good size. A black hole is different. The gravity wins to all forces and the volume start to shrink and colapse to a infinity small volume. It tends to zero volume. The ball you see in this vid and others illustrations is the Schwarzschild radius
they could call it a dark star but it does create a hole in the fabric of space due to its density. to get to the 'dark star' you have to travel through the 'black hole'
Black hole is the best example of dark matter. And gravity is the best example of reality. Black hole is the point where all matter enter a different reality... You open your eyes one day after going through a black hole, and see that you are an alien in an alien planet. But you never feel strange, because you are in a different reality... probably in a future or in a very high dimension and become a creator of 3d beings like the reality of humans... let`s enjoy a holiday at "The BLACK HOLE"!...
It would be better named, A DARK STAR, just as it was originally called. Its not a freaking hole. A hole is a void, dark stars are DENSE and Massive . As Bart Simpson said "the enemy of hole is rock". Black Hole is an inaccurate term and also degrading to African American Prostitutes. When will these science geeks stop the hating. For a little respite try you tubing "crosby, stills, nash and young --- dark star". I could go on but who would care? You heartless bastards!
Stop Tevatron and close the LHC. Throw out big-bangers from universities. Big Bang never was. The Universe is ever young.
Hubble constant is the mirror reflection of Plank constant. These both constants are describing the 4d-rotation on opposite scales relatively us. Precise value of Hubble constant you can find on my web-site. Big-bangers want to my children, and all of you. Big-bangers want to touch the particle of God, but thus, they lead us into the magnetic trap of Devil.
A Black holes is technically not an object, many people see them as an object that sucks things in like a hoover... they are actually more of a force, a big ball of immense gravitational pull that sucks even light itself into it, making it appear black.
To escape ones pull, you would need to travel faster than the speed of light (And gravity itself which travels at the same speed as light) but Einstein theorised that it isnt possible to go any faster. So you'd be screwed XD
As far as I know Fedda the gravity is so is so strong it pulls light itself into it. with the background of space being black. they're almost impossible to see. From what I know anyway.
your right and the stuff you can see is not the black hole itself, but a collection of swirling matter being sucked into it, it is known as "The Accretion Disc".
What color does a black hole have? It isn't black, I'm sure about that. The light is just sucked into the hole. Is it a hole at all? I think it's a ball, maybe sending things to another dimension.. And don't come prove me wrong here, we don't know much about black holes as we haven't really seen one
actually your wrong, a black hole only throws out positive matter, the negative matter decreases the black holes overall mass, shrinking it.
and the black holes super intense gravitational forces esentally punch a hole in the universe and this hale leads to what is know as a white hole in a parallel universe where black holes do not even exist.
ever wonder why black driveways get really hot in the summer? Its because their black surface absorbs light, which is stored as heat energy rather than reflected back towards the sky. Since the entire spectum of light is absorbed into the asphault, none of it reaches your eye, which is why asphault looks black.
Anyone who got through middle school science class should know that.
i cant believe you had to explain that to him/her, thats the basics you learn in science ... the whole spectrum makes white light, absorbed then its black...
"Clear" is not "the avsence (absence, you meant?) of color". The term clear is just used to describe any type of transparent matter. The definition of transparency is the ability to let light pass through without altering or absorbing it.
the center of a black hole is varry small.... in fact a star has 2 foces push and pull. the inside is what pulls and the out side is what pushes. when the center cools and shrinks the ouside is still pushing and the inside dosent have enouf power to resist so, the outside keeps shrinking untell theres almost nothing left. then the inside cant go any smaller so it expands. in expands so big that the out side rips and the center goes back in and tuns into dark energy. and pulls every thing into it
Funny how most of the fanatics are always willing to say ignorant to skeptics, yet never giving clear answers. They always have something far more important than admitting they're wrong lol!
FACT: even electromagnetic radiation (light) is unable to break away from the attraction due to a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing can escape its pull after having fallen past its event horizon. Despite its interior being invisible, a black hole may reveal its presence through an interaction with matter that lies in orbit outside its event horizon and can be perceived by tracking the movement of a group of stars that orbit its center.
correct. This does not prove existence. You simply are explaining the well knon model. Oh, about the interaction with matter (X-rays and jet streams), you must remember that they were patched not predicted by the model, you cannot use it as a proof. Is is clear?
Hail to the new kind of fanatics. The scientist fanatics. This animation is really stupid but criticizing Black Hole is now like criticizing God in a Church.
Beware of this huge number of kids ready to believe in something nobody ever proved.
Yes poor guys, Black Holes were never proved. They made lot of false claim, also.
But it's too important for the enstablishment to persuade people they are real. And you good guys must act as sheeps abd believe, basing on.... cartoons!!!!
simple answer: radiometric gravitational and light measures. you can't see them but you can see the effects ergo you can locate it. Learn more about it I'm not going to tell everything here; imposible with 500 char only.
I said something. you suppose that, and you're wrong. I didn't calim that, I said that you should learn about it before saying "were never proved" that's all. with this kind of answer it's you who don't seem to want to debate... ok; a few facts (have to check them, english is not my mother tongue ergo I have to translate.)
Fact: a lot of scientific techniques allow to analize the spectrum of light and other things so you can locate the event. another example: it could be perceived observing gas and other materials drawn into it, you don't see it but you can measure that it's there by the surroundings. large amounts of radiationt can be detected from earthbound and earth-orbiting telescopes to prove them (still very unknown and there are lots of hypothesis, also a lots of measurable data confuirming the theory)
False. True the first part (we can analyze spectrums) but if you measure radiation you obtain that... there are radiations. Radiations were not a prediction of BH, you cannot use them to claim the model has been proved. Any astronomer can confirm this.
BTW: I remind you that we made the false claim that we had no BH in our bulge. Now we are forced to put one, simply ignoring the false claim. This is guessing work not a scientific model.
(this idea of a so powerful magnetic force that even light couldn't scape is not new by the way) all the research and observation in the scientific communty resulted in the general consensus that blackholes are real but we don't understand them yet. read about Einstein's general theory of relativity. if there's any spelling mistake, sorry... I had to check to say it right... wanna debate with global scientific consensus?..., you can try... or deny facts.. up to you...
Correct: true that there is consensus. This won't prove BH. This is circular reasoning. I claim the Sun is indeed Santa Claus's home, THEN I define Santa Claus's house as a place where we find sun-like radiations, then we prove the model looking at the Sun. No mocking, this is exactely what we have, about proofs on BH.
Einstein did debate the consensus. He also gave a new theory which I have not (no genius) but I can be skeptic. Einstein did not believed in Big Bang or BH, just for curiosity.
there's no absolute 100% empirical evidence but we continue researching; maybe not even proven 100% but definately something is ot there causing observable effects, can you deny that?. Also Einstein theory go to others to make more theory and sciences goes on disproving ones and continue with others. If thrugh telescope you se that all matter (galaxy etc) is going away from each other like a fire work the Big Bang theory is not that crazy, it's plausible
Yes something is there. But the problem is that we have some evidence against BH whilst we should have correct predictions.
Surely plausible, but it has its flaws. And it brings our physics too far away. Btw the idea BH was stimulating and something useful may come out of that for science.
I didn't know that there's some evidence against it(I would like to know or if you can give some links, I'm interested about that). Well, the Universe is very unknown and maybe there's some aspects of phisics that seem a bit "It can't be" but it's obvious that some cosmic force is there. Well, simulation is useful to have a lot of different perspectives to try to get to new theoryes and other stufff while studding this amazingly far and strage events (I understand it correctly what you mean?)
For me the best evidence is the prediction "no BH in our Galaxy center". It did was made, it's incredible that the entire scientific mainstream covers this up!
Then you can take a look to the first document if you google "Big Bang Busted!". And you'll discover that the famous scientific consensus is just propaganda made by the owner of the current knowledge. It always happens.
1)magnetic gravitational forces, in the case of BH. There also are theories where electromagnetic forces are included (the light would still bend, not for gravity but for diffraction).
2) I never claimed BHs do not exist. I claim that it's false that we proved them. We indeed proved nothing yet. It's a model that provided no prediction yet, only patches after we discovered things (X-ray emissions, jet streams... they are patches not predictions).
I understand that, light is a wave, and the study of waves and others helps to figure out the behaviour, distance etcetera etcetera. so, is it posible and probable that this is there due to the observation? yes. ok, I understand it now. yes, we never proved them but that's impossible unless you go there (not quite near). Does that disproves it? I think that no. I'll keep an eye about new findings about that. But it's undeniable that this event is there.
(my english is not that good speacially with some scientific terminology) I mean that throught telescopes and other ways of observation and other techniques we can figure out that there's something there with an amazing gravitational force affecting it's surroundings. Of course BH still quite unknown and how exactly it is but It's quite plausible that the speculations and theorys are correct or at least aproximately. but this is a cosmic event very mistryous and difficult to track and study
Partly exact: yes we see amazing forces, but we say that they are gravitational forces only because we think from the inside of the Standard Model, where we account only gravity for such tremendous forces. And this is why there is the need (for the model, not for the Nature) to have BH to be real. But so far we know 5 forces, then we suspect a Zero Point Energy. The point is that we have no understanding of the Universe and a better theory is strongly welcomed.
I agree, but I think this is quite ok for now, if any new achievements bring new theory that would be great; unfortunately I don't know that much, I try to read and know about this things... as I said it seems quite plausible to me.
if the center of the black hole has zero size then what is the meaning of spinning of a 0 size object? what is spinning?
szjozsi 5 months ago
if u were eated by a blackhole you will be transported in other parts of universe and after that you will die!! I hate those blackholes!! I wish they have 1% gravity
wengneuda13 8 months ago
@wengneuda13 lol
himeichig0 6 months ago
@wengneuda13 You will most likely be destroyed.
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Through the relativity theory to Einstein of over century, it hold with strenght -as a conspiracy a general activity of intellectual stultify of the planetary population. from relativity theory proceed the notion of: singularity, Big bang, black holes and holes of worm. From 1905 and till now in 2011, the disciples of the Einstein, preach with contumely as scientific elements of high class these theoretical confusions, these absurdities from which they had made a business.
sandustanBrasov 11 months ago
u cant tell if the black hole is spinning or the universe is spinning around him
Xuter 11 months ago
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Black Holes don't exist. The way galaxies rotate, and their violent ejections of matter jets, do not conform to expectations based on gravity. To account for these and other anomalies, such speculative devices as "dark matter" – at the last count numbering seven different varieties – "dark energy," matter collapsing into black holes, and similar exotic mechanisms that have never been observed are introduced to make the theory fit the facts. Electricity powers the universe:
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ErikLiberty 1 year ago
should've used the song "supermassive black hole" by muse
Victorgoleche75 1 year ago
Well actually you cannot see a black hole because it's actually invisible, its simply a small tiny point where space and time does not exist even light cannot escape it, just to sump it up you cannot see a black hole, only when it starts to consume something, u will be able to see an outline.
pimpjuice739 1 year ago
So, instead of the "BlackHole" being an actual "Hole"..., it's really a gigantic black round figure or, ball(if you will), spinning with unexceptional gravitational pull?
BklynJayL 1 year ago
BLACK HOLE IS NOT AN OBJECT. It is created due the conjugation of the gravitational fields of stars encircling in a group or cluster. Read REALISTIC PRINCIPLES by Tenzin Dhakpa Agongtsang, ISBN: 978-1-4349-9203-1.
agongtsang 1 year ago
@agongtsang And many other books that are of a completerly differnt opinion
supergiuovane 1 year ago
do black holes and whirlpools basically have the same concept?
chickun1soup80 1 year ago 3
@chickun1soup80 One would thing so. Except the black hole is always described up-side-down.
CainTheMain 1 year ago
Does anyone know the name of the track played on this vid??? Sounds like a gorgeous trip hop tune.
DeleteTheEIite 1 year ago
Because they`re using the Kerr-Newman soln.
LeconsdAnalyse 1 year ago
why are black-holes always portrayed as having a "spin" (with rotational poles) and "jets" ...>>> mass without volume, has NO angular rotational component. think about it ? ;)
bobnsand 1 year ago
@bobnsand Because they are formed by collapse of stars that are rotating. Hence.. Angular momentum conservation..
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Carlito9480 1 year ago
the existence of black holes confirms how genius einstein was :)
legendaryawesomedude 2 years ago
You couldn't call it a Black Star!! Because black holes doesn't have any volume... A star, black star, will be like the brown dwarf stars (just darker, hehe). They still has a good size. A black hole is different. The gravity wins to all forces and the volume start to shrink and colapse to a infinity small volume. It tends to zero volume. The ball you see in this vid and others illustrations is the Schwarzschild radius
mvszao 2 years ago
whee ._.
SillyZowieNuttyhoppe 2 years ago
they could call it a dark star but it does create a hole in the fabric of space due to its density. to get to the 'dark star' you have to travel through the 'black hole'
sarkerm2 2 years ago
Those blue black holes are a rare type.
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Black hole is the best example of dark matter. And gravity is the best example of reality. Black hole is the point where all matter enter a different reality... You open your eyes one day after going through a black hole, and see that you are an alien in an alien planet. But you never feel strange, because you are in a different reality... probably in a future or in a very high dimension and become a creator of 3d beings like the reality of humans... let`s enjoy a holiday at "The BLACK HOLE"!...
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1.close your eyes
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3.touch a body part
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5.you're crush will touch you there tommorow
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1. Close your eyes
2. Stab yourself
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4. Check if you're dead, if not then go back to 2.
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rvfharrier 2 years ago 9
would a black hole be beter named as a black ball. Or a void sphere?
ericpao81 2 years ago
probably, looking at all information i can find on them, still dont realy understand :/
allisont01 2 years ago
Lulz, I read that over quickly and though you said "Black Hell"
Doughnut189 2 years ago
It would be better named, A DARK STAR, just as it was originally called. Its not a freaking hole. A hole is a void, dark stars are DENSE and Massive . As Bart Simpson said "the enemy of hole is rock". Black Hole is an inaccurate term and also degrading to African American Prostitutes. When will these science geeks stop the hating. For a little respite try you tubing "crosby, stills, nash and young --- dark star". I could go on but who would care? You heartless bastards!
willberb 2 years ago 2
It's called a hole because it's like falling in a hole from walking on a hill called gravity.
Lulz
TriggDev 2 years ago
The description was a little off... a Black Hole is a Quantum singularity and is infinitly small, it is the ergosphere/event horizon that is large.
WoWVioletmoonWoW 2 years ago 2
I wonder if the black hole will be used as a rubbish dump when there's no room left on earth
mikesway23 2 years ago 22
@mikesway23 I'm sure its been considered. XD
CainTheMain 1 year ago
@mikesway23 e impossivel criar buracos negros sabe pq
pq eles sao apenas teoria
leandro62836 5 months ago
@mikesway23 Lol why not just use the moon or Venus?
piloooogen 5 months ago
what balck hole do for what ? i just dont get it why they have balck hole for
Erikitaisqt 2 years ago
why is it visible ?
olivierfromricochet 2 years ago
because itd be a boring animation if it was.
lendial 2 years ago
Does anyone know the name of the song?
psychclone 2 years ago
it looks like a wad of Blue jelly mmmm Blueee jelly *drools*
moldraxian 3 years ago
Wow, a blue black hole.
schelter300 3 years ago
xD lloool
furiousharry 2 years ago
Yes it's very sad.
abdula31 2 years ago
fuk off u dirty fukin muslem....
sexcmasoalex 3 years ago
Screw God, this is science.
FierceGodLink 3 years ago
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celepaska 3 years ago
well no shit
lancelot2k5 3 years ago 3
great vid
seen it yesterday! lets chat xj
InZaIjN 3 years ago
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kemo112205 3 years ago
black hole or black ball?o.O
haiyoohohoho1 3 years ago
Stop Tevatron and close the LHC. Throw out big-bangers from universities. Big Bang never was. The Universe is ever young.
Hubble constant is the mirror reflection of Plank constant. These both constants are describing the 4d-rotation on opposite scales relatively us. Precise value of Hubble constant you can find on my web-site. Big-bangers want to my children, and all of you. Big-bangers want to touch the particle of God, but thus, they lead us into the magnetic trap of Devil.
DrDarkEnergy 3 years ago
BIG-BANGERS 4 LIFE BABY
LBTennis 2 years ago
it is look's like a disco ball by the way at the end we will all die but i have no problem with it coz every 1 well !
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If you dug a hole through to the center of the earth and you managed to climb down to that point.
Would you not, finally, become weightless at the very center? You would have just as much mass above you as below you and around you.
If so, is there really that much pressure at the core?
Would this not prevent a black hole from forming?
beneehall 3 years ago
I'll take my Intergalactic Kirby Diamond Edition for $20 :)
EdmDude 3 years ago
it cives me the feeling that thats an teleporter thats been worcking a long time
sandertu 3 years ago
lol cool
296bry296 3 years ago
Scary just thinking about what might be going on in the universe
KERJER111 3 years ago 2
O.o looks like the phazon planet from metroid prime 3 execpt not a glowing centre more a glowing atomsphere getting sucked into it.
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this song sucks
rocknrollcody 3 years ago
Does anyone know the name of this song?
psychclone 3 years ago
i do wanna know it 2...
whats the name of this pretty song?
no informations are to find about it.
N3tOnline 3 years ago
what's the name of the song?
Brencs 3 years ago
hehe it blows and it sucks im so sorry
pielol123 3 years ago
A Black holes is technically not an object, many people see them as an object that sucks things in like a hoover... they are actually more of a force, a big ball of immense gravitational pull that sucks even light itself into it, making it appear black.
To escape ones pull, you would need to travel faster than the speed of light (And gravity itself which travels at the same speed as light) but Einstein theorised that it isnt possible to go any faster. So you'd be screwed XD
danso3000 3 years ago
black holes actually are objects- theyre supermassive clumps of degenerate matter
avp715 3 years ago 3
i can go faster than light.
XTCHitch 3 years ago
And I select spam at this one just a bit slower :P
thetobias666 3 years ago
As far as I know Fedda the gravity is so is so strong it pulls light itself into it. with the background of space being black. they're almost impossible to see. From what I know anyway.
Insomnicidoll 3 years ago
your right and the stuff you can see is not the black hole itself, but a collection of swirling matter being sucked into it, it is known as "The Accretion Disc".
jupiter189 3 years ago
What color does a black hole have? It isn't black, I'm sure about that. The light is just sucked into the hole. Is it a hole at all? I think it's a ball, maybe sending things to another dimension.. And don't come prove me wrong here, we don't know much about black holes as we haven't really seen one
Fedda106 3 years ago
It is black. Black isn't a color like red-green or w/e. actually it is the lack of any color.
chrissrag 3 years ago
black is indeed not a color it are all the colors together.
666Sargeras666 3 years ago
It's not exactly sending things into another dimension. It's sucking in matter and then throwing it back out as energy from its poles.
TheOSFAA 3 years ago 2
black holes suck
white holes blow ;)
aatusha 3 years ago 2
"black holes suck
white holes blow ;) "
Lol, but kinda true :D
Aaberg123 2 years ago 17
@Aaberg123
I believe white holes exist, it only makes sense
PsychoNinjaPirate 9 months ago
actually your wrong, a black hole only throws out positive matter, the negative matter decreases the black holes overall mass, shrinking it.
and the black holes super intense gravitational forces esentally punch a hole in the universe and this hale leads to what is know as a white hole in a parallel universe where black holes do not even exist.
jupiter189 3 years ago
black holes have no color, so calling them black wouldnt be inacurate
avp715 3 years ago
Everything has a color.
braddudeguy 3 years ago
unless that thing is black? black is the absence of color
avp715 3 years ago 3
True.
braddudeguy 3 years ago 4
Black is not the absence of color. Black is not a color. Clear is the avsence of color. Invisible is the absence of color.
MohoganyFan 3 years ago
....
you are just completely wrong.
ever wonder why black driveways get really hot in the summer? Its because their black surface absorbs light, which is stored as heat energy rather than reflected back towards the sky. Since the entire spectum of light is absorbed into the asphault, none of it reaches your eye, which is why asphault looks black.
Anyone who got through middle school science class should know that.
avp715 3 years ago 2
i cant believe you had to explain that to him/her, thats the basics you learn in science ... the whole spectrum makes white light, absorbed then its black...
EkzzS 3 years ago 2
I know its kind of sad. Im thinking its just some little kid that didn't think anyone would notice that he was just making it all up.
avp715 3 years ago
So let me get this straight. Black holes are made of asphalt?
psychclone 3 years ago
Umm... No? Where did you get that idea?
avp715 3 years ago
Wow, ummm, yeah. I'm pretty sure I was joking. Is your brain made of asphalt?
psychclone 3 years ago
"Clear" is not "the avsence (absence, you meant?) of color". The term clear is just used to describe any type of transparent matter. The definition of transparency is the ability to let light pass through without altering or absorbing it.
avp715 3 years ago
basically you wouldn't be able to see it and it doesn't matter because you would be dead in a split second lol
XTCHitch 3 years ago 3
the center of a black hole is varry small.... in fact a star has 2 foces push and pull. the inside is what pulls and the out side is what pushes. when the center cools and shrinks the ouside is still pushing and the inside dosent have enouf power to resist so, the outside keeps shrinking untell theres almost nothing left. then the inside cant go any smaller so it expands. in expands so big that the out side rips and the center goes back in and tuns into dark energy. and pulls every thing into it
zenthex1234 3 years ago
Do you have any idea whatsoever what a center gravity is?
fredthebass 3 years ago
haha both were good
Lastesina 3 years ago
lmao centre
avp715 3 years ago
lol i just came up witha good joke!
Yo mama is like a black hole, she sucks until theres nothing there
18guyy 3 years ago
Funny how most of the fanatics are always willing to say ignorant to skeptics, yet never giving clear answers. They always have something far more important than admitting they're wrong lol!
fabbio8888 3 years ago
FACT: even electromagnetic radiation (light) is unable to break away from the attraction due to a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing can escape its pull after having fallen past its event horizon. Despite its interior being invisible, a black hole may reveal its presence through an interaction with matter that lies in orbit outside its event horizon and can be perceived by tracking the movement of a group of stars that orbit its center.
Athrek 3 years ago
correct. This does not prove existence. You simply are explaining the well knon model. Oh, about the interaction with matter (X-rays and jet streams), you must remember that they were patched not predicted by the model, you cannot use it as a proof. Is is clear?
fabbio8888 3 years ago
ok, but it's like lots of theorys, evidence and investigation supports or suggest this is the right directon.
Athrek 3 years ago
oooh....pretty colors...
GorillaDude94 3 years ago
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that was dumb
webkinzshowrox 3 years ago
Hail to the new kind of fanatics. The scientist fanatics. This animation is really stupid but criticizing Black Hole is now like criticizing God in a Church.
Beware of this huge number of kids ready to believe in something nobody ever proved.
Yes poor guys, Black Holes were never proved. They made lot of false claim, also.
But it's too important for the enstablishment to persuade people they are real. And you good guys must act as sheeps abd believe, basing on.... cartoons!!!!
fabbio8888 3 years ago
simple answer: radiometric gravitational and light measures. you can't see them but you can see the effects ergo you can locate it. Learn more about it I'm not going to tell everything here; imposible with 500 char only.
Athrek 3 years ago
In fact you said nothing. BTW your reply shows you don't want to talk, basically you claim I'm an ignorant, lol. Go debate with yourself then.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
I said something. you suppose that, and you're wrong. I didn't calim that, I said that you should learn about it before saying "were never proved" that's all. with this kind of answer it's you who don't seem to want to debate... ok; a few facts (have to check them, english is not my mother tongue ergo I have to translate.)
Athrek 3 years ago
Fact: a lot of scientific techniques allow to analize the spectrum of light and other things so you can locate the event. another example: it could be perceived observing gas and other materials drawn into it, you don't see it but you can measure that it's there by the surroundings. large amounts of radiationt can be detected from earthbound and earth-orbiting telescopes to prove them (still very unknown and there are lots of hypothesis, also a lots of measurable data confuirming the theory)
Athrek 3 years ago
False. True the first part (we can analyze spectrums) but if you measure radiation you obtain that... there are radiations. Radiations were not a prediction of BH, you cannot use them to claim the model has been proved. Any astronomer can confirm this.
BTW: I remind you that we made the false claim that we had no BH in our bulge. Now we are forced to put one, simply ignoring the false claim. This is guessing work not a scientific model.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
I understand half of this: "BH in our bulge" ?
Athrek 3 years ago
sorry "Black Holes in our Galaxy centre"
fabbio8888 3 years ago
(this idea of a so powerful magnetic force that even light couldn't scape is not new by the way) all the research and observation in the scientific communty resulted in the general consensus that blackholes are real but we don't understand them yet. read about Einstein's general theory of relativity. if there's any spelling mistake, sorry... I had to check to say it right... wanna debate with global scientific consensus?..., you can try... or deny facts.. up to you...
Athrek 3 years ago
Correct: true that there is consensus. This won't prove BH. This is circular reasoning. I claim the Sun is indeed Santa Claus's home, THEN I define Santa Claus's house as a place where we find sun-like radiations, then we prove the model looking at the Sun. No mocking, this is exactely what we have, about proofs on BH.
Einstein did debate the consensus. He also gave a new theory which I have not (no genius) but I can be skeptic. Einstein did not believed in Big Bang or BH, just for curiosity.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
there's no absolute 100% empirical evidence but we continue researching; maybe not even proven 100% but definately something is ot there causing observable effects, can you deny that?. Also Einstein theory go to others to make more theory and sciences goes on disproving ones and continue with others. If thrugh telescope you se that all matter (galaxy etc) is going away from each other like a fire work the Big Bang theory is not that crazy, it's plausible
Athrek 3 years ago
Yes something is there. But the problem is that we have some evidence against BH whilst we should have correct predictions.
Surely plausible, but it has its flaws. And it brings our physics too far away. Btw the idea BH was stimulating and something useful may come out of that for science.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
I didn't know that there's some evidence against it(I would like to know or if you can give some links, I'm interested about that). Well, the Universe is very unknown and maybe there's some aspects of phisics that seem a bit "It can't be" but it's obvious that some cosmic force is there. Well, simulation is useful to have a lot of different perspectives to try to get to new theoryes and other stufff while studding this amazingly far and strage events (I understand it correctly what you mean?)
Athrek 3 years ago
For me the best evidence is the prediction "no BH in our Galaxy center". It did was made, it's incredible that the entire scientific mainstream covers this up!
Then you can take a look to the first document if you google "Big Bang Busted!". And you'll discover that the famous scientific consensus is just propaganda made by the owner of the current knowledge. It always happens.
Simulations are useful, yes! And so beautiful.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
yep, I haven't read much about the big one in the centre of the galaxy. I agree simulations are useful and beautiful :)
Athrek 3 years ago
1)magnetic gravitational forces, in the case of BH. There also are theories where electromagnetic forces are included (the light would still bend, not for gravity but for diffraction).
2) I never claimed BHs do not exist. I claim that it's false that we proved them. We indeed proved nothing yet. It's a model that provided no prediction yet, only patches after we discovered things (X-ray emissions, jet streams... they are patches not predictions).
fabbio8888 3 years ago
I understand that, light is a wave, and the study of waves and others helps to figure out the behaviour, distance etcetera etcetera. so, is it posible and probable that this is there due to the observation? yes. ok, I understand it now. yes, we never proved them but that's impossible unless you go there (not quite near). Does that disproves it? I think that no. I'll keep an eye about new findings about that. But it's undeniable that this event is there.
Athrek 3 years ago
"is it posible and probable that this is there due to the observation". I'm not sure to understand it. I agree with the rest, that's a good approach.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
(my english is not that good speacially with some scientific terminology) I mean that throught telescopes and other ways of observation and other techniques we can figure out that there's something there with an amazing gravitational force affecting it's surroundings. Of course BH still quite unknown and how exactly it is but It's quite plausible that the speculations and theorys are correct or at least aproximately. but this is a cosmic event very mistryous and difficult to track and study
Athrek 3 years ago
Partly exact: yes we see amazing forces, but we say that they are gravitational forces only because we think from the inside of the Standard Model, where we account only gravity for such tremendous forces. And this is why there is the need (for the model, not for the Nature) to have BH to be real. But so far we know 5 forces, then we suspect a Zero Point Energy. The point is that we have no understanding of the Universe and a better theory is strongly welcomed.
fabbio8888 3 years ago
I agree, but I think this is quite ok for now, if any new achievements bring new theory that would be great; unfortunately I don't know that much, I try to read and know about this things... as I said it seems quite plausible to me.
Athrek 3 years ago
awesome!
DiegoDCvids 3 years ago
hey. what song is that?
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abortedsoul 4 years ago
You took it from a website!
It is pratacly an imaginary trip to a black hole and you end up there!
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yea look at the video info, i list the references there
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