You don't need an FFL license to own a fully auto weapon, the weapon just has to be made before 1986 and you have to go through a licensed weapon dealer. Also there is some paperwork and fees to go along with it.
hahaha, sure bud, very relevant, you know you have nothing of significant value to say when you resort to that. Just keep that narrow minded view and see how far it gets you.
I agree, it's always been the criminal that does wrong. and the law abideing get punished for it..theres something basically wrong with that picture. don't you agree. go strong after the bad guys, and leave the law abiding people of this beautiful country alone.
Our guns are gone? You make it sound like they can beam our guns out of our homes Star Trek style....Don't forget. many in the military will not go along with such an order. Just some food for thought.
& yes jered you're right about people overreacting to cosmetic features like bayonets, tri picatinny rails, or beta c mags. we should be able to have these accessories regardless of how intimidated gun phobic people feel. & congress shouldn't use tax laws to limit gun & ammo sales the way they used tax laws to ban drugs.
& now they want to use mexican drug cartels from tijuana & jaurez as an excuse to create a another "assault weapons" ban. wtf?? its not our fault that mexicans cant keep their shit together. oh, & then their excuse is that america is the 1 that's been creating the supply for the drugs; so we're supposed to feel guilty for their crisis. we have to fight back so join the nra now people!
people are gonna kill each other with whatever weapons are available. we have firearms to hunt and defend ourselves and some idiots kill each other with them just like the indians had bows to hunt and defend themselves and some idiots killed each other with the bows.
Right with you man! These idiot @#$#$% gun-grabbing politicians don't have a damn clue about what they're trying to ban. Joe Biden is an idiot and so is his idiot brother Obongo.
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The problem is, While I aggree with what you are saying, Biden will be more educated this time around. Nd he may send his thugs to your house first since you opened you safe to him
i couldn't believe it when joe biden said that about your video. your absolutely right about people not understanding the facts about semi-auto weapons such as AR's. its so unfortunate that those are the people who make the policies. think about this. if people like joe biden were making laws back in the late 1700's, nobody would have had a gun to fight the british with.
Dems are for the working joe. yet look at gun buisness's it will hurt!? If Dems were for guns they would rule. Period. Has anyone heard about the the tax hike on ammo and assault rifles yet?
lets see here, Congress:Dem, White House:Dem. The ONE bill to take our guns away is proposed by ONE person. You should educate yourself on the topic of Executive Orders. Don't try to act smart because you watch CNN twice a week, okay? okay.
You, my friend, should educate yourself. You are probably thinking of Senate Bill 2237 (2007)!!!
Actually HB 6257 (Assault Weapons Ban 2008) is proposed by 4 people, okay? Okay. Go to the House of Rep. website and search for HB 6257!!! Don't tell me to get educated! You have no idea of how on top of things I am!!!
Dude I understand & respect what your saying, but Polititions do not practice COMMON SENSE when it comes to civil matters or really anything for that matter! They may be smart enough to get re-elected! But they don't have any common sense. They are bought & paid for by Lobbyist who donate to their campaign re-elections. They don't consider themselves as working for WE THE PEOPLE! Go to gun ban obama & google it to learn about the real Barak Hussien Obama. He's a SOCIALIST & sees it that way!
I agree with you that it has nothing to do with guns. It is a personal right I have! All gun bans do, is put guns in criminals hands and out of law abiding citizens who need guns to pertect themselves and their families.
If you get hit with a chevy driving down the road it is because you didn't own a gun to protect yourself with.
Biden can't talk straight enough to have a one on one with you sir.......... stuck his foot in his mouth again, and he does not have what it takes to make it right with you, he is a hollow man
you've got pretty upset in this vid around 3:35... you said that you didn't care about what Biden said to you in the beginning, but obviously you do... take a deep breath dude.
"Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control. Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other right. This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in the gun control debate. Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical government."
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I saw that video where that elitist bastard called you fucking retarded. Go put a bullet up Jew Biden's zionist commie ass, would ya? Goddamn politicians want to run our lives. By the way, I'm voting for Baldwin/Castle.
To be quite honest, nobody tells us how many cars we can have or how many children we can have. The last time I checked this was a FREE country. What I do with my LEGAL posessions on my own time has nothing to do with anybody else. I consider guns a hobby. If I want to spend my money on my hobby that's my business. If someone likes to fish and they had 20 fishing poles would you be concerned? What if they wanted to stab people to death with a pole? Oh no!!!
If you want to tell us that we can't exercise a certain freedom, you need to prove that exercising that freedom creates a clear and imminent threat to the lives and liberties of other citizens.
And the last time I checked, gun owners are a surprisingly peaceful group. It seems counter-intuitive, but if you look at the statistics... for instance, CPL holders. An incredibly mature, freedom-loving, and respectable group.
Then I wont have to keep validating the logical side of my brain that says "Hey, there's really no sense in someone owning twenty weapons that could take out a room full of people in a minute." Aside from the fact that you know, it's common sense.
And no I wouldn't be concerned about fishing poles. You can't kill someone across the street with a fishing pole. If you wanted to assault me with a fishing pole I might have a fighting chance.
The right to bare arms is an EXPRESSED power in the constitution, yes. One gun, okay. Protect yourself with it. Legally. Yay.
The maximum of arms you are allowed to own is an IMPLIED power. Implied powers are vague and to be interpretted by the people. It wouldn't violate anyone's rights if we were to put a cap on it, because it doesn't EXPRESS that in the constitution.
Just sayin'. Depends on how you see it. This side of the tracks arguments are just as valid under our constitution aswell. D:
Shotguns are good for fowl and small game and large game as well as home protection. Firearms like the AR15 are the weapons the 2nd Amendment is really about. They are designed for State and National Defense as well as personal Defense. So in all depending on what you want to use your firearm for weather it is for sport or defense there are many types of firearms to choose from.
Implied powers can be pretty much interpreted however you want, depending upon which side of the arguement you're on. As long as it is reasonable to an extent.
Just go do a google search on how the constitution is to be read. D: I can use it against you just as much as you can against me.
There's no implication in the Second Amendment that "reasonable" infringements of the RKBA are acceptable.
That's because our Founding Fathers were smart enough to know that what's reasonable to one may or may not be reasonable to another.
It's called subjectivity, and I, for one, don't want to have the extent to which my rights are recognized interpreted by a subjective group--such as the majority.
Actually, if you want to take away someone's freedom, you have to prove that they're going to misuse it. Plenty of people with PLENTY of guns never misuse them in their lives.
This Renny person just gets scared at the sight of a big, black, mean looking gun. They don't like guns so they want to outlaw them. I don't like people who are scared of guns, let's outlaw them.
I'm amazed that my comment was thumb-downed... regardless:
It's acceptable to fear guns, I mean, it is a free country after all; and citizens should be able to feel how they want.
However, to try to force people to live one way or the other because you feel this way or that takes us back to the same things that America was created to escape.
It may be interesting to some to know that Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology, connected fear of weapons with retarded maturity.
Fucking Joe Biden admitted yesturday that Clinton would have been a better pick for the VP position.
ABC News Jaffe: Joe Biden, Wed said that Clinton, might have been a better pick for the position than him.
Well, no shit! A carecrow is a better choice than Biden. Obama showed weakness and insecurity with the Biden choice. What draw has a man who never polled out of single digits among democrats? Obama blew it, and everybody knows it.
Every time Obama or Biden speaks of gun control, I remember "the shoulder thing that goes up". We can't allow these types of people write gun laws. Great video.
Biden will not be able to take our guns. Its getting bad with all these gun control laws, but the republican and libertarian side isnt ready to give that up....yet
yo, shmuck w glasses, what do u need a gun for? you think it makes you a man? all guns should be banned for the public. wtf u need guns for? no more indians out there and to be honest, you look more like a character from southpark than a cowboy. if you wanna show your pathetic female friend you're a man, gie her a memorable night and get into a fistfight you cunt.
I see...you're from Albania. Now I understand why you don't like guns. Here in the USA we have freedoms and we try to protect them. This country was built around that. Do I sense some jealousy?
you have no idea what you're talking about. You know nothing of the constitution. and if we give all of our guns up then who has them? the government? thats fuckin genious. its fascist people like you that ought to be shot so the rest of us retain our freedom
If he's wrong, how come you're the one that's throwing the punches?
We have a term for that, it's called argumentum ad hominid.
The native Americans and bears of yesterday are the drug lords and gangbangers of today. If you honestly think that we don't need guns, well, hang around in DC, LA, Baltimore, Camden, Philadelphia or another big city, and see how long you can stay alive without a gun.
If we vote for John Mccain, we may have our guns, but we wont have any money for ammo! Another 4 years of George Bush. We need help restoring American jobs, and the American dream. If you vote "with" your gun and not your "brain", you will need that gun to defend the two nickels you have left! What a shitty election, huh?
If you let them take out the chips one by one them, you no longer have a chocolate chip cookie. Democrats aren't going to do away with any of the spying that Bush instituted. It serves their goals as well.
Armed people are harder to oppress.
Obama/Biden will rubberstamp any gun control measure they come across. They will call them "Reasonable" regulations, that only take away "dangerous" guns. Guns only a "criminal" would want. Then they will accept a UN gun ban.
Eventually, the only firearms left unchallenged will be akin to muskets. But then they will pass legislation to outlaw the gun powder to use in it because it could be used to make explosives. Leaving guns and the second amendment as a forgotten memory.
Of course, criminals, police and their own private body guards will be allowed any weapon the choose.
Scum like Rebecca Peters will be invited to speak, giving one-sided false details about how we are better off defenseless.
Good point. The only problem is, this is only one chocolate chip in the cookie that is the presidential election. It is pure ignorance if you vote in an election as important as this based on one small aspect such as guns. I am very pro guns. I am also very pro economy, jobs, and the middle class lifestyle.
I agree with your point about politicians like Joe Biden, not knowing anything about firearms and still making laws against them. One example is that an assault weapon is one that is defined by a firearm which fires both in automatic, and semi automatic through use of a selective switch.(i.e. m-1, AK-47) A firearm which fires only in automatic is a machine gun.(i.e. M60,S.A.W.) And one that is semiautomatic only is just considered a rifle.
Actually, an assault weapon under the ban was one that had any 2 of the 5 features:
1 bayonet lug
2 pistol grip
3 flash supressor
4 adjustable stock
5 grenade launcher
It had nothing to due with full-auto. A rifle could be semi-auto (like mine) and still be an assault weapon under the ban just because it had 2 of the 5. My rifle does NOT have full auto.
My point was that the politicians do not know what an assault weapon actually is. yet, they passed a law which outlaws weapons that are not actually "assault weapons", based on arbitrary add-ons. And none of the add-ons have anything to do with being an assault weapon because they do not change the function of the weapon. I wasn't suggesting that your rifle had full auto. I was giving the definition of what an assault weapon actually is. And your's is not one.
Another fun fact about the 1994 ban is that it restricted high-capacity magazines (anything over 5 rounds), and yet, in their wisdom, it continued to allow grandfathered clips and imported clips to be sold. All this meant was that law-abiding gun owners like me were forced to pay exorbitant prices for second-rate magazines that often didn't work once you got them onto the range. Thank the gods that that ridiculous piece of puff propaganda was allowed to expire.
hm...just because i'm not living in the u.s. doesn't mean that i can't understand things happening there.
other countries proclaim freedom of speach and civil rights, too, as u know, the question is, where do you draw the line, where does harassment and endangerment start.
and by the way, if you need your guns so bad for self-defence because there are criminals everywhere, you should ask yourself what kind of a country you're living in...
1.I am sure people still murder others in your country. (What ever country it is because you seem to be afraid to show that information in you channel.)
2.The reason why we were given the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is for National Defense.
Followed by Personal Defense.
3.I'm sure if someone was raping or murdering your loved one you would want to defend your family.
4.Criminals can come from law biding families this is true but if they were not criminals then they would not commit crimes.
it all comes down to a moral attitude...either you do want to own a deadly weapon or you don't. if you really think the world is a better place with guns in every household, then i'm very sorry for u.
That mountain you live on must be a wonderful place.
There will never be a utopia.
As for you thoughts on having guns in every household. The nice thing about gun ownership in the United States is that it is voluntary unlike Sweden where it's mandatory.
The truth is that if guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns.
I'm sure criminals have guns in your country (what ever country it is.)as well and people still are murdered with them.
Just to bring a new perspective, my primary reason for owning guns is that I enjoy shooting them and owning them as pieces of history (I gravitate towards old military weapons). I'm certainly prepared to use them in self-defense if need be, but I have never shot at a human being, and I have no plans to ever do so. I am fortunate to live in a low-crime area, so it's unlikely I ever will. But, as many studies have shown, draconian gun bans only serve to help criminals and hurt the law-abiding.
Guess what? Do you own a toaster? Then that is a deadly weapon. THINK about it, it CAN assist you in killing something if used for the wrong reasons. Guns are NOT weapons, the user is the weapon. The Bourne movies attest to this, the main character uses anything and everything as a tool to aid him in staying alive. So stop calling guns deadly weapons when 100% of the items you use in everyday life can help you kill as well.
Criminals will use anything doesn't matter if it is banned or not. Let's look at illegal drugs for example, it kills a a lot of people, but did the crimials stop selling it because is not legal...I think not. The bottom line is people who owns firearms because it is a hobbie, enjoy target shooting, hunting and owning a peace of history. I know a lot of other thing that kills people, should we ban that too. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
did it ever occur to you that every criminal has once been a law-abiding citizen? that killing someone out of 'self-defence' might just happen rather quick, when you got a gun at hand? you're nit-picking over gun laws and getting all excited over your 'baby', you seem to forget that guns are made to kill! comming from a country that prohibits firearms, i'm glad there are no discussions like this here. since we got a lot less guns, we got a lot less gun-related murders, simple as that...
You don't need an FFL license to own a fully auto weapon, the weapon just has to be made before 1986 and you have to go through a licensed weapon dealer. Also there is some paperwork and fees to go along with it.
redbull23952395 2 months ago
he says the same thing about the M1 carbine and the m1 garand and the M14 and the 1911 colt .45
topper454 1 year ago
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biden's great
thegreatcanadian10 2 years ago
Yea, if you're a NAZI.
RichardZERO 2 years ago
im failing to understand the line between joe biden and nazi's, please fill me in. Or are you just pulling stuff out of your a**
thegreatcanadian10 2 years ago
Naw, it's over your head.
RichardZERO 2 years ago
no please enlighten me because i want to see your apparent intellectual superiority.
thegreatcanadian10 2 years ago
Let it go dude.
If you don't get it yourself, you never will, no matter what I say.
RichardZERO 2 years ago
never say never
thegreatcanadian10 2 years ago
@ thegreatcanadian
Regarding why Joe Biden is not great:
You're a Canadian, enough said.
DavyCrockett2 1 year ago
hahaha, sure bud, very relevant, you know you have nothing of significant value to say when you resort to that. Just keep that narrow minded view and see how far it gets you.
thegreatcanadian10 1 year ago
Sure thing
DavyCrockett2 1 year ago
I agree, it's always been the criminal that does wrong. and the law abideing get punished for it..theres something basically wrong with that picture. don't you agree. go strong after the bad guys, and leave the law abiding people of this beautiful country alone.
RLABOZAK 2 years ago
what kinda shells do u use in ur ar an whats r the hand guns
curtispa 2 years ago
AMEN!!!
XmodsNOS 2 years ago
Don't apoligize for reading. Obama does it at every speech. ;)
pocat6 2 years ago
enough talking, lets go shooting, you own any AK's?
lti12 2 years ago 2
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RealDeohge 2 years ago
lol stop milking it
RealDeohge 2 years ago
Our guns are gone? You make it sound like they can beam our guns out of our homes Star Trek style....Don't forget. many in the military will not go along with such an order. Just some food for thought.
SimpleDan76 2 years ago
& yes jered you're right about people overreacting to cosmetic features like bayonets, tri picatinny rails, or beta c mags. we should be able to have these accessories regardless of how intimidated gun phobic people feel. & congress shouldn't use tax laws to limit gun & ammo sales the way they used tax laws to ban drugs.
SymAmineC8H11N 2 years ago
& now they want to use mexican drug cartels from tijuana & jaurez as an excuse to create a another "assault weapons" ban. wtf?? its not our fault that mexicans cant keep their shit together. oh, & then their excuse is that america is the 1 that's been creating the supply for the drugs; so we're supposed to feel guilty for their crisis. we have to fight back so join the nra now people!
SymAmineC8H11N 2 years ago
hey GUNS Are deadly SO IS FIRE LETS BAN FIRE TOO!!!!!!
SVDRapidFire 2 years ago 6
Joe Bidden had a lot of gall saying that you were mentally unstable!
Dianne Feinstein put together the gun ban by looking thru a gun catalog and picking out the ones that LOOKED bad. Now THAT is mentally unstable!
The worst mass attack on Americans EVER was done with airplanes and they got those by using BOX CUTTERS! NOT RIFLES OR HAND GUNS!
I guess we should ban box cutters.
Keep up the good work sir. You're a voice of reason and level headed counsel.
BIDDEN IS THE IDIOT !!
conspiracy777 2 years ago
man i live in port huron michigan its like an hour from u man, our rights are under attack, come to port huron and shoot some guns!
patbatzu2142 2 years ago
people are gonna kill each other with whatever weapons are available. we have firearms to hunt and defend ourselves and some idiots kill each other with them just like the indians had bows to hunt and defend themselves and some idiots killed each other with the bows.
Arkansasbasher 2 years ago
Before that it was rocks and sticks
Lets ban rocks and sticks!!!!
Gungrave20 2 years ago
Good stuff man, 100% behind you
Archnemesis1337 2 years ago
Right with you man! These idiot @#$#$% gun-grabbing politicians don't have a damn clue about what they're trying to ban. Joe Biden is an idiot and so is his idiot brother Obongo.
flatwins 2 years ago
100% Truth.
Laws don't effect criminals. That's why there criminals.
Washington gets worse by the day
01SVTVenom 3 years ago
Im proud to have this voice coming form Michigan! Great job.
gibsonqm 3 years ago
Hey we do 24/7 radio on many networks. Stop by and talk as we can have some fun. Check out Libertytreeradio videos on youtube asap. We are right here in MICHI(GAN with you. Join the Militia and don't even think that your arms are "GONE" We aren't going to surrender anything, are YOU? Let us know. Call and say hello. Hope to hear from you soon. Mark Gregory,, Koernke GDW!
Libertytreeradio 3 years ago
Buddy, I just bought a Judge. I'm a subscriber, way to stand up man.
chewbaca1989 3 years ago
Way to go. That's a nice piece. Thanks for your support.
jeredt 3 years ago
The problem is, While I aggree with what you are saying, Biden will be more educated this time around. Nd he may send his thugs to your house first since you opened you safe to him
Nevo1665 3 years ago
Hell will freeze over before that chikken shut
Joe Biden comes to Michigan.
Sorry YOUTUBE Nazi censor me.
N2thedrink 3 years ago
there is nothing wrong with collecting guns.
DECONooo412 3 years ago
Hold Manufacturer liable? car, knife, baseball bat, and etc! LOL! Let start sueing all these manufacturer for making their product hurt people! LOL
RK1 3 years ago
i couldn't believe it when joe biden said that about your video. your absolutely right about people not understanding the facts about semi-auto weapons such as AR's. its so unfortunate that those are the people who make the policies. think about this. if people like joe biden were making laws back in the late 1700's, nobody would have had a gun to fight the british with.
a452108 3 years ago
Fuck Boe Jiden
DasBeck 3 years ago 3
Dems are for the working joe. yet look at gun buisness's it will hurt!? If Dems were for guns they would rule. Period. Has anyone heard about the the tax hike on ammo and assault rifles yet?
JimTL1000R 3 years ago 2
If our guns are to go. I guess our sport will go thug. LOL
JimTL1000R 3 years ago 3
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Post his phone number on youtube? No one watches your lame videos.
Elcheap 3 years ago
Apparently you do...
jeredt 3 years ago
@Elcheap BURN!
mattxr2i 1 year ago
good job on the vid, biden is a dum ass, any gun can kill but its the person not the gun, what is the point of a band????? biden is clueless!!!!!!!!
mrbill672 3 years ago 2
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maybe you should hold your breath and while you are educate yourself.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
wow "he's gonna take my guns away"
NO ONE PERSON CAN DO ANYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY IT HAS TO PASS BEFORE HE CAN TAKE YOUR GUNS AWAY.
you are a noob.
froggy1937 3 years ago
lets see here, Congress:Dem, White House:Dem. The ONE bill to take our guns away is proposed by ONE person. You should educate yourself on the topic of Executive Orders. Don't try to act smart because you watch CNN twice a week, okay? okay.
rollerbladewhat 3 years ago
You, my friend, should educate yourself. You are probably thinking of Senate Bill 2237 (2007)!!!
Actually HB 6257 (Assault Weapons Ban 2008) is proposed by 4 people, okay? Okay. Go to the House of Rep. website and search for HB 6257!!! Don't tell me to get educated! You have no idea of how on top of things I am!!!
jeredt 3 years ago
dude, it was a reply to froggy, not you.
rollerbladewhat 3 years ago
Joe Biden is a nigger lovin agitator. Hes worthless, no nigger or his minions will take my guns.
FuckGunControl 3 years ago
a PERFECT example of why gun control is necessary.
another is my video on my channel 'gun control'. after you see that you will realise the error of your ways!
TexWhatever 3 years ago
Well that the Demopublicans are race agitators, you bet.
(Non-Anglo).
FGC has a right to speak his mind, to you haters out there.
chewbaca1989 3 years ago
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im totally 100% naked now hehe X
Defiranth 3 years ago
Dude I understand & respect what your saying, but Polititions do not practice COMMON SENSE when it comes to civil matters or really anything for that matter! They may be smart enough to get re-elected! But they don't have any common sense. They are bought & paid for by Lobbyist who donate to their campaign re-elections. They don't consider themselves as working for WE THE PEOPLE! Go to gun ban obama & google it to learn about the real Barak Hussien Obama. He's a SOCIALIST & sees it that way!
LoganUpABongHit 3 years ago
Great video, I totally agree with everything he said.
ghostgunner302 3 years ago 2
I agree with you that it has nothing to do with guns. It is a personal right I have! All gun bans do, is put guns in criminals hands and out of law abiding citizens who need guns to pertect themselves and their families.
If you get hit with a chevy driving down the road it is because you didn't own a gun to protect yourself with.
Thanks for the video.
bbredneckgirl 3 years ago
Biden can't talk straight enough to have a one on one with you sir.......... stuck his foot in his mouth again, and he does not have what it takes to make it right with you, he is a hollow man
KCIslamicResistance 3 years ago
you've got pretty upset in this vid around 3:35... you said that you didn't care about what Biden said to you in the beginning, but obviously you do... take a deep breath dude.
ytbcomm 3 years ago
"Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control. Our Founders, having just expelled the British army, knew that the right to bear arms serves as the guardian of every other right. This is the principle so often ignored by both sides in the gun control debate. Only armed citizens can resist tyrannical government."
-- Congressman Ron Paul, June 27, 2006
GunOwnerDan 3 years ago
HAHA!!! Is this guy for real?! Enjoy Clio, MI or wherever the hell, enjoy the guns! HA!
ntenzer 3 years ago
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I saw that video where that elitist bastard called you fucking retarded. Go put a bullet up Jew Biden's zionist commie ass, would ya? Goddamn politicians want to run our lives. By the way, I'm voting for Baldwin/Castle.
BestFuckingChannel 3 years ago
your the reason why there is a problem with gun ownership issues...
droobiedee 3 years ago 3
I don't trust Obama or Biden at all!!
john51880 3 years ago
Didn't answer my question. Lol.
RennyHime 3 years ago
To be quite honest, nobody tells us how many cars we can have or how many children we can have. The last time I checked this was a FREE country. What I do with my LEGAL posessions on my own time has nothing to do with anybody else. I consider guns a hobby. If I want to spend my money on my hobby that's my business. If someone likes to fish and they had 20 fishing poles would you be concerned? What if they wanted to stab people to death with a pole? Oh no!!!
jeredt 3 years ago
We don't need to.
If you want to tell us that we can't exercise a certain freedom, you need to prove that exercising that freedom creates a clear and imminent threat to the lives and liberties of other citizens.
And the last time I checked, gun owners are a surprisingly peaceful group. It seems counter-intuitive, but if you look at the statistics... for instance, CPL holders. An incredibly mature, freedom-loving, and respectable group.
crunker1338 3 years ago
You don't need to, no.
Then I wont have to keep validating the logical side of my brain that says "Hey, there's really no sense in someone owning twenty weapons that could take out a room full of people in a minute." Aside from the fact that you know, it's common sense.
And no I wouldn't be concerned about fishing poles. You can't kill someone across the street with a fishing pole. If you wanted to assault me with a fishing pole I might have a fighting chance.
RennyHime 3 years ago
The right to bare arms is an EXPRESSED power in the constitution, yes. One gun, okay. Protect yourself with it. Legally. Yay.
The maximum of arms you are allowed to own is an IMPLIED power. Implied powers are vague and to be interpretted by the people. It wouldn't violate anyone's rights if we were to put a cap on it, because it doesn't EXPRESS that in the constitution.
Just sayin'. Depends on how you see it. This side of the tracks arguments are just as valid under our constitution aswell. D:
RennyHime 3 years ago
I think that you have it confused.
The People have Rights and the government has powers.
The difference is that Rights cannot be taken away but powers can be.
The "Right" to Keep and Bare Arms is as equal to all the other Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Guns serve different purposed.
.22 cal. rifles are good for small game and target shooting.
30-06 rifles are good for Deer and long range competitions.
Both Revolvers and Semi-Automatic pistols are good for personal protection.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Shotguns are good for fowl and small game and large game as well as home protection. Firearms like the AR15 are the weapons the 2nd Amendment is really about. They are designed for State and National Defense as well as personal Defense. So in all depending on what you want to use your firearm for weather it is for sport or defense there are many types of firearms to choose from.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
What is nice about this Right is that you can choose to own a firearm or to not own one. You can also choose to own many.
Its not the law biding citizen you need to worry about it's the criminal.
Criminals do not obey laws there for if they restricted guns or banned them the criminal will always have them.
What needs to happen is the laws on the books need to be enforced and let lawful people own what they want.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
There are over 150,000 fully automatic weapons owned by law biding civilians.
Since 1932 only 2 people have ever been murdered with a lawfuly owned machinegun.
Both happened in the 1990's and one of the murders was commited by a Police Officer.
76 Years and only 2 murders.
You would think that with 150,000 + machineguns out there it should be a blood bath in the streets.
In short why would someone need more than one firearm? I just gave you several good reasons.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Please substitute the word "Bare" with "Bear".
Reading RennyHime comments I mistakenly spelt it wrong because he spelt it wrong and I didn't notice it till after I posted this.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
The right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed.
Ain't nuthin' there that suggests that it shall not be infringed until you own x number of firearms.
crunker1338 3 years ago
crunker, that's why I said implied.
IMPLIED.
Implied powers can be pretty much interpreted however you want, depending upon which side of the arguement you're on. As long as it is reasonable to an extent.
Just go do a google search on how the constitution is to be read. D: I can use it against you just as much as you can against me.
RennyHime 3 years ago
RennyHime,
I guess you did not read what I commented yesterday.
I think that you have it confused.
The People have Rights and the government has powers.
The difference is that Rights cannot be taken away but powers can be.
The "Right" to Keep and Bear Arms is as equal to all the other Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Notice that it is the "Bill of Rights" not powers.
A "Right" is not an implied power.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
There's no implication in the Second Amendment that "reasonable" infringements of the RKBA are acceptable.
That's because our Founding Fathers were smart enough to know that what's reasonable to one may or may not be reasonable to another.
It's called subjectivity, and I, for one, don't want to have the extent to which my rights are recognized interpreted by a subjective group--such as the majority.
crunker1338 3 years ago
A weapon is nothing without it's user. A weapon doesn't change anything about its user, aside from empowering him/her.
Common sense is subjective, that's why we don't legislate things because they "make sense".
crunker1338 3 years ago
I'm a little confused.
Why do you need so many guns like that?
I promised, no country is going to declare war on your home. You wont need an arsenal of that size.
Can you give some form of valid reason for having all of that mess? The only one I can think of is perhaps you're wanting to hold up a bank.
RennyHime 3 years ago
Actually, if you want to take away someone's freedom, you have to prove that they're going to misuse it. Plenty of people with PLENTY of guns never misuse them in their lives.
crunker1338 3 years ago
This Renny person just gets scared at the sight of a big, black, mean looking gun. They don't like guns so they want to outlaw them. I don't like people who are scared of guns, let's outlaw them.
jeredt 3 years ago
I'm amazed that my comment was thumb-downed... regardless:
It's acceptable to fear guns, I mean, it is a free country after all; and citizens should be able to feel how they want.
However, to try to force people to live one way or the other because you feel this way or that takes us back to the same things that America was created to escape.
It may be interesting to some to know that Sigmund Freud, the father of modern psychology, connected fear of weapons with retarded maturity.
crunker1338 3 years ago
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Biden was right GUN OWNERS ARE RETARDS! Obama 08!
gayproundatheist 3 years ago
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It's OVER; McCain is your next president.
clericimachine 3 years ago 3
+1000
I don't know why someone would mark your comment as spam unless you hit a home run.
Palin choice threw a wrench in the Obama machine.
They are focusing on her as if she was running in the number one spot.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
The commie-libs are on the defensive and coming totally unglued. They all thought the presidency was theirs by entitlement.
As usual, real Americans are coming forth to be heard through the liberals worst nightmare: the voting booth.
This election is HISTORY; McCain is the winner.
clericimachine 3 years ago
Every time Obama or Biden speaks of gun control, I remember "the shoulder thing that goes up". We can't allow these types of people write gun laws. Great video.
HisXLNC 3 years ago 2
Biden will not be able to take our guns. Its getting bad with all these gun control laws, but the republican and libertarian side isnt ready to give that up....yet
drunkenboxer1985 3 years ago
yo, shmuck w glasses, what do u need a gun for? you think it makes you a man? all guns should be banned for the public. wtf u need guns for? no more indians out there and to be honest, you look more like a character from southpark than a cowboy. if you wanna show your pathetic female friend you're a man, gie her a memorable night and get into a fistfight you cunt.
cbita 3 years ago
I see...you're from Albania. Now I understand why you don't like guns. Here in the USA we have freedoms and we try to protect them. This country was built around that. Do I sense some jealousy?
jeredt 3 years ago
No, I do't think he's jealous.
Irgnorant maybe but not jealous.
People like cbita like to pop into videos like this to say a statement that will be sure to draw a negitive responce.
I wonder if he kisses his mother with that dirty mouth of his.
He must like living as a subject and not a citizen.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Irgnorant = Ignorant.
Sorry for the typo.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
you have no idea what you're talking about. You know nothing of the constitution. and if we give all of our guns up then who has them? the government? thats fuckin genious. its fascist people like you that ought to be shot so the rest of us retain our freedom
drunkenboxer1985 3 years ago 2
If he's wrong, how come you're the one that's throwing the punches?
We have a term for that, it's called argumentum ad hominid.
The native Americans and bears of yesterday are the drug lords and gangbangers of today. If you honestly think that we don't need guns, well, hang around in DC, LA, Baltimore, Camden, Philadelphia or another big city, and see how long you can stay alive without a gun.
crunker1338 3 years ago
Cont.
If we vote for John Mccain, we may have our guns, but we wont have any money for ammo! Another 4 years of George Bush. We need help restoring American jobs, and the American dream. If you vote "with" your gun and not your "brain", you will need that gun to defend the two nickels you have left! What a shitty election, huh?
georgegeorge1977 3 years ago
If you let them take out the chips one by one them, you no longer have a chocolate chip cookie. Democrats aren't going to do away with any of the spying that Bush instituted. It serves their goals as well.
Armed people are harder to oppress.
Obama/Biden will rubberstamp any gun control measure they come across. They will call them "Reasonable" regulations, that only take away "dangerous" guns. Guns only a "criminal" would want. Then they will accept a UN gun ban.
Blindslothprod 3 years ago
Eventually, the only firearms left unchallenged will be akin to muskets. But then they will pass legislation to outlaw the gun powder to use in it because it could be used to make explosives. Leaving guns and the second amendment as a forgotten memory.
Of course, criminals, police and their own private body guards will be allowed any weapon the choose.
Scum like Rebecca Peters will be invited to speak, giving one-sided false details about how we are better off defenseless.
Blindslothprod 3 years ago
Good point. The only problem is, this is only one chocolate chip in the cookie that is the presidential election. It is pure ignorance if you vote in an election as important as this based on one small aspect such as guns. I am very pro guns. I am also very pro economy, jobs, and the middle class lifestyle.
georgegeorge1977 3 years ago
Great Vid!!
p90man 3 years ago
I agree with your point about politicians like Joe Biden, not knowing anything about firearms and still making laws against them. One example is that an assault weapon is one that is defined by a firearm which fires both in automatic, and semi automatic through use of a selective switch.(i.e. m-1, AK-47) A firearm which fires only in automatic is a machine gun.(i.e. M60,S.A.W.) And one that is semiautomatic only is just considered a rifle.
Blindslothprod 3 years ago
First example for assault was m-16, not m-1 typo.
Blindslothprod 3 years ago
Actually, an assault weapon under the ban was one that had any 2 of the 5 features:
1 bayonet lug
2 pistol grip
3 flash supressor
4 adjustable stock
5 grenade launcher
It had nothing to due with full-auto. A rifle could be semi-auto (like mine) and still be an assault weapon under the ban just because it had 2 of the 5. My rifle does NOT have full auto.
jeredt 3 years ago
Get yourself a preban!!!!!
Dmac11a666 3 years ago
My point was that the politicians do not know what an assault weapon actually is. yet, they passed a law which outlaws weapons that are not actually "assault weapons", based on arbitrary add-ons. And none of the add-ons have anything to do with being an assault weapon because they do not change the function of the weapon. I wasn't suggesting that your rifle had full auto. I was giving the definition of what an assault weapon actually is. And your's is not one.
Blindslothprod 3 years ago
Another fun fact about the 1994 ban is that it restricted high-capacity magazines (anything over 5 rounds), and yet, in their wisdom, it continued to allow grandfathered clips and imported clips to be sold. All this meant was that law-abiding gun owners like me were forced to pay exorbitant prices for second-rate magazines that often didn't work once you got them onto the range. Thank the gods that that ridiculous piece of puff propaganda was allowed to expire.
jbmorgan 3 years ago
If your country does not allow guns, you have no business understanding what our country is about.
jeredt 3 years ago
hm...just because i'm not living in the u.s. doesn't mean that i can't understand things happening there.
other countries proclaim freedom of speach and civil rights, too, as u know, the question is, where do you draw the line, where does harassment and endangerment start.
and by the way, if you need your guns so bad for self-defence because there are criminals everywhere, you should ask yourself what kind of a country you're living in...
pphilister 3 years ago
1.I am sure people still murder others in your country. (What ever country it is because you seem to be afraid to show that information in you channel.)
2.The reason why we were given the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is for National Defense.
Followed by Personal Defense.
3.I'm sure if someone was raping or murdering your loved one you would want to defend your family.
4.Criminals can come from law biding families this is true but if they were not criminals then they would not commit crimes.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
it all comes down to a moral attitude...either you do want to own a deadly weapon or you don't. if you really think the world is a better place with guns in every household, then i'm very sorry for u.
pphilister 3 years ago
So you think people who own firearms are immoral?
That mountain you live on must be a wonderful place.
There will never be a utopia.
As for you thoughts on having guns in every household. The nice thing about gun ownership in the United States is that it is voluntary unlike Sweden where it's mandatory.
The truth is that if guns are outlawed only criminals will have guns.
I'm sure criminals have guns in your country (what ever country it is.)as well and people still are murdered with them.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Just to bring a new perspective, my primary reason for owning guns is that I enjoy shooting them and owning them as pieces of history (I gravitate towards old military weapons). I'm certainly prepared to use them in self-defense if need be, but I have never shot at a human being, and I have no plans to ever do so. I am fortunate to live in a low-crime area, so it's unlikely I ever will. But, as many studies have shown, draconian gun bans only serve to help criminals and hurt the law-abiding.
jbmorgan 3 years ago 3
Amen to that.
That is my main reason to own them as well.
I too have never had to use a gun to defend myself and enjoy collecting firearms from WWI and WWII.
When you take them to the rifle range my 1916 Enfield and 1931 Mosin Naggant always draw a crowd.
Its kind of like having a fire in the kitchen and no fire extinguisher.
You could either put out a small fire quickly with the extinguisher or call 911 and let it rage out of control.
ohioastromech 3 years ago 2
If you have someone breaking into your house and you call 911 the police won't show up for several minutes.
Long enough for the criminal to do great harm.
With a gun at hand you have a greater chance for survival till the police arrive.
ohioastromech 3 years ago 2
Guess what? Do you own a toaster? Then that is a deadly weapon. THINK about it, it CAN assist you in killing something if used for the wrong reasons. Guns are NOT weapons, the user is the weapon. The Bourne movies attest to this, the main character uses anything and everything as a tool to aid him in staying alive. So stop calling guns deadly weapons when 100% of the items you use in everyday life can help you kill as well.
armageddon91 3 years ago
Criminals will use anything doesn't matter if it is banned or not. Let's look at illegal drugs for example, it kills a a lot of people, but did the crimials stop selling it because is not legal...I think not. The bottom line is people who owns firearms because it is a hobbie, enjoy target shooting, hunting and owning a peace of history. I know a lot of other thing that kills people, should we ban that too. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
tubeyou1122 3 years ago 3
did it ever occur to you that every criminal has once been a law-abiding citizen? that killing someone out of 'self-defence' might just happen rather quick, when you got a gun at hand? you're nit-picking over gun laws and getting all excited over your 'baby', you seem to forget that guns are made to kill! comming from a country that prohibits firearms, i'm glad there are no discussions like this here. since we got a lot less guns, we got a lot less gun-related murders, simple as that...
pphilister 3 years ago
What a Revelation! Guns are made to kill...
So are knives. Should we ban them as well?
How about baseball bats, hammers, rope, steel pipe, axes, and cars?
You seem to be upset over people calling a firearm their Baby.
I know people who call their car and motorcycles their Baby. It was a play on words.
People who live in countries that prohibit firearm ownership are "Subjects" not Citizens.
Besides, it's not really about guns, it's about Freedom.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
HA HA HA!!! I loved the phone number across the screen!
But seriously, there should not be Red or Blue States. We are The "United States" of America.
Like many groups that are Anti what ever they do not take the time to understand what they really hate.
Just like the Anti abortion people know abortion inside and out why don't the anti gun crowd do the same thing.
Most likely they will find out that the real problem isn't the gun but the criminal holding the gun.
Lawful people need defense.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Most crimes are committed with cheap pistols.
Most likely they were stolen or bought by Straw Purchasers.
Sadly, if they banned the inexpensive firearms low income citizens/families would not be able to afford a means of self defense.
People say that the Police are here to protect the people however in the time it takes for the police to arrive it is already too late.
Police are not obligated to take a bullet for anyone.
They are not our body guards.
ohioastromech 3 years ago
Yeah, my only reaction when I saw that pick was, "Oh wow, here comes the circus!"
SuckLead 3 years ago