I am a logger and proud to be one. If we didn't cut trees this is what your life would be. No house, no money, can't wipe your ass, no education because the school woulnt be there, no pencil, no gum, monuments wouldn't be here, and alot more.
loggers for ever!!!! you tree hugers are a pack of wanker if it wasnt for logging you wouldnt have homes or dunny paper .you will never stop it so why try go get a job you dole bludging pack of scum bags fertilize the bush doze in a greenie!!!!!!!
@loggersforever sorry mate but plantations could easily be used for these purposes instead of ARSEHOLES like yourself who hink that the only thing worth while in life is to destroy the earth we live on - I wouldn't classify myself or anyone here who is against logging old growth fores as tree huggers - we are people who believe in a Sustainable planet and protecting biodiversity and native wildlife. People like you don' have any concept outside of ur tiny lives and profession.
@loggersforever It would be easy to use plantations to cover our needs, instead of destroying whats left of our native forests for financial gains for a minority such as loggers.
what is it then you expect the future people of the world to do when those trees you want to save are rotten and laying on the ground and sence no new trees where planted beacuse you stoped the logging operation what will the people in 400 years say about that tree when its just a lump of dirt
Fantastic thesis, Jensen. Your essay not only swayed my convictions, it touched my heart. Hard-hitting facts combined with silky-smooth prose, it doesn't get any better than this. 97%
@norcallogger You do realise that those forests have been there for thousands of years with out logging interference, so i am pretty sure they will do just fine on their own. When a tree falls down, it then rots as you so rightly said, and then breaks down into soil putting nutrients back into the soil like compost and then feed fututre vegetation that grows around and replaces it naturally. Do you seriously think that before white settlement and logging that people cut it down and replaced it??
@norcallogger You are just talking through your arse with nonsensical arguments because you think tat since all you know ho to do is to cut down and destroy nature and replace it with plantations, that thats how the world has always worked. You probably think that some alien race came and cut down trees and replaced them during the times of dinosaurs, before humans came into existence.
Every time a coupe of wet sclerophyll forest is clearfelled, burnt and turned into plantation, we loose for good old growth Eucalyptus forest, the fauna it supports, the waterways it provides and transfer it into a fire prone, weed infested paddock. I ask the question "how can the State Government be legally allowed to sell of public old growth forest for the supply of pulp and woodchips". It is not sustainable and Brumby knows that. Get out of MY old growth Brumby.
Interesting that 460cixy and platformone clearly didn't bother to watch the vid before airing their prejudices. Thanks guys for your useful contribution.
he Victorian (& Canberra) fires would not have been so bad, if wasn't for the Greens and environmentalists "must keep all trees policy" getting in the way of making fire breaks, back burning in cooler months, and must "protect" all so called rare species of plant.
But unfortunately, Labor had to listen to these environmental extremists so Labor can get the Greens preferences.
The Greens & environmentalists should learn that sometimes land clearing and back burning IS necessary.
short memory it seems . brown Mountain was logged in the 70,s its an example of Sustainable forest management. but i guess some ppl will do anything to get there 15 seconds of fame
Dear 460cixy, Thank you for your comment. It is true that sadly some of the Brown Mountain National Estate forest was logged in the late 1980s, but not the section in this video. This area is still untouched old growth forest. The areas that were logged were destroyed they are now a tree-crop, not a forest. Sue.
I wrote to Gavin Jennings and John Brumby in early December but received no response - so I feel like they're really in touch with the concerns of the community. It's absolute disgrace and makes me so angry that in this day and age governments are still destroying beautiful places like this, which apart from their inherent value should be kept for everyone to share in, instead everything is chopped up and shipped off, leaving us with scarred land .. :(
Owlie25, by NOT land clearing when needed, you are creating fuel for larger based fires, therefore creating even more damage to forests, when a fire happens.
Owlie, I too have written politicians on a wide range of issues. I think they only even look at hand written letters, I'm 100% sure they just delete e-mails from the public, it's a waste of time in my opinion.
I think you need to do some writing your self and find out some correct facts regarding where the wood goes to. All trees that are fallen do not go to woodchips.
Dear flossie, I did not say all trees. However, the fact is that more than 85% of the state's native forest logged last financial year was turned into woodchips, sawdust and waste. Only 12% is for sawlogs. Figures obtained by freedom of information by the Age 20 Jan 2008. Sue.
We are talking about Brown mountain and I think if you did your research more into that logging coupe that your statistics is not correct you need to be more specific in what you are talking about and stop filling innocent peoples head full of rubbish!
P.S i got out 27 loads today, and that was just the one side, so thats removing way over 270 trees a day from the Forrest.
oregonkid911 8 months ago
I am a logger and proud to be one. If we didn't cut trees this is what your life would be. No house, no money, can't wipe your ass, no education because the school woulnt be there, no pencil, no gum, monuments wouldn't be here, and alot more.
oregonkid911 8 months ago
That'd look good on the back on me jinker.
Dirty greens
HibbersonT950 11 months ago
loggers for ever!!!! you tree hugers are a pack of wanker if it wasnt for logging you wouldnt have homes or dunny paper .you will never stop it so why try go get a job you dole bludging pack of scum bags fertilize the bush doze in a greenie!!!!!!!
loggersforever 1 year ago
@loggersforever sorry mate but plantations could easily be used for these purposes instead of ARSEHOLES like yourself who hink that the only thing worth while in life is to destroy the earth we live on - I wouldn't classify myself or anyone here who is against logging old growth fores as tree huggers - we are people who believe in a Sustainable planet and protecting biodiversity and native wildlife. People like you don' have any concept outside of ur tiny lives and profession.
fatheranthony4pope 1 year ago
@loggersforever It would be easy to use plantations to cover our needs, instead of destroying whats left of our native forests for financial gains for a minority such as loggers.
fatheranthony4pope 1 year ago
@loggersforever
DIRTY GREENS! Log the old growth.
HibbersonT950 11 months ago
that is so slackl they should stop logging now
bowmasterpigo13 2 years ago
why
norcallogger 1 year ago
what is it then you expect the future people of the world to do when those trees you want to save are rotten and laying on the ground and sence no new trees where planted beacuse you stoped the logging operation what will the people in 400 years say about that tree when its just a lump of dirt
norcallogger 3 years ago
Good call
flossie2009 3 years ago
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brettfred7 2 years ago
Fantastic thesis, Jensen. Your essay not only swayed my convictions, it touched my heart. Hard-hitting facts combined with silky-smooth prose, it doesn't get any better than this. 97%
brettfred7 2 years ago
@norcallogger You do realise that those forests have been there for thousands of years with out logging interference, so i am pretty sure they will do just fine on their own. When a tree falls down, it then rots as you so rightly said, and then breaks down into soil putting nutrients back into the soil like compost and then feed fututre vegetation that grows around and replaces it naturally. Do you seriously think that before white settlement and logging that people cut it down and replaced it??
fatheranthony4pope 1 year ago
@fatheranthony4pope what you say is true but also with that there are a lot of areas that die out due to bug and fire problems
norcallogger 1 year ago
@norcallogger You are just talking through your arse with nonsensical arguments because you think tat since all you know ho to do is to cut down and destroy nature and replace it with plantations, that thats how the world has always worked. You probably think that some alien race came and cut down trees and replaced them during the times of dinosaurs, before humans came into existence.
fatheranthony4pope 1 year ago
Every time a coupe of wet sclerophyll forest is clearfelled, burnt and turned into plantation, we loose for good old growth Eucalyptus forest, the fauna it supports, the waterways it provides and transfer it into a fire prone, weed infested paddock. I ask the question "how can the State Government be legally allowed to sell of public old growth forest for the supply of pulp and woodchips". It is not sustainable and Brumby knows that. Get out of MY old growth Brumby.
time2tellall 3 years ago
Interesting that 460cixy and platformone clearly didn't bother to watch the vid before airing their prejudices. Thanks guys for your useful contribution.
ausbloke2007 3 years ago
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he Victorian (& Canberra) fires would not have been so bad, if wasn't for the Greens and environmentalists "must keep all trees policy" getting in the way of making fire breaks, back burning in cooler months, and must "protect" all so called rare species of plant.
But unfortunately, Labor had to listen to these environmental extremists so Labor can get the Greens preferences.
The Greens & environmentalists should learn that sometimes land clearing and back burning IS necessary.
platformone 3 years ago
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platformone 3 years ago
short memory it seems . brown Mountain was logged in the 70,s its an example of Sustainable forest management. but i guess some ppl will do anything to get there 15 seconds of fame
460cixy 3 years ago
Dear 460cixy, Thank you for your comment. It is true that sadly some of the Brown Mountain National Estate forest was logged in the late 1980s, but not the section in this video. This area is still untouched old growth forest. The areas that were logged were destroyed they are now a tree-crop, not a forest. Sue.
greenmpsvic 3 years ago
The camera has short term memory? pfft
Sustainable forest management?
Maybe....
Destroying animal's environment?
Yes.
d0md0mt0mt0m 3 years ago
I wrote to Gavin Jennings and John Brumby in early December but received no response - so I feel like they're really in touch with the concerns of the community. It's absolute disgrace and makes me so angry that in this day and age governments are still destroying beautiful places like this, which apart from their inherent value should be kept for everyone to share in, instead everything is chopped up and shipped off, leaving us with scarred land .. :(
owlie25 3 years ago
Dear owlie25, Thank you for your action. Don't give up. It's not too late. I think we have their attention now, thanks to people like you.
greenmpsvic 3 years ago
Owlie25, by NOT land clearing when needed, you are creating fuel for larger based fires, therefore creating even more damage to forests, when a fire happens.
platformone 3 years ago
As far as I know, Brown Mountain was not being cleared as a fuel break so I don't see how your argument really addresses the issue.
owlie25 3 years ago
Owlie, I too have written politicians on a wide range of issues. I think they only even look at hand written letters, I'm 100% sure they just delete e-mails from the public, it's a waste of time in my opinion.
d0md0mt0mt0m 3 years ago
I think you need to do some writing your self and find out some correct facts regarding where the wood goes to. All trees that are fallen do not go to woodchips.
flossie2009 3 years ago
Dear flossie, I did not say all trees. However, the fact is that more than 85% of the state's native forest logged last financial year was turned into woodchips, sawdust and waste. Only 12% is for sawlogs. Figures obtained by freedom of information by the Age 20 Jan 2008. Sue.
greenmpsvic 3 years ago
We are talking about Brown mountain and I think if you did your research more into that logging coupe that your statistics is not correct you need to be more specific in what you are talking about and stop filling innocent peoples head full of rubbish!
flossie2009 3 years ago