It's also a "Big Turbo" model with plenty of lag.........I should know, I've got one, but get it past 3500 rpm and it'll give you a kick up the arse!!! Having launch control helps!! By the way let's see how the Viper would fair against the same size engined RS200!! 0-60 in 3.2 secs!!!
Shows the superiority of...oh wait...I just watched the video...what happened? Cosworths are AWD, even without any modification he should have taken off far faster than the Viper...
@PortlandViper No, but I would certainly own them side by side. Hard to have fun in a Viper in a Colorado mountain winter...And there's Vipers available everywhere, Cosworth Escorts (which share literally NOTHING with US Escorts) are very rare. But this does look like an early Gen1 Viper.
you cant beleive this video! a tuned cossie against a standard viper is an easy victory for the cossie. but if u spent the same amount of money on the viper engine it wud rip the cossie to pieces in a straight line!!if u givehennessey 100ngrand they make a viper do 240 mph. u give companies 100 grand to modify an escort they concentrate on acceleration and handling
@andrewbradley130 Yes but that is straight line performance, no use if you live in Europe and the escort cosworth was aimed at the Europeon market, also that is not true, that cosworth engine is actually very tunable and the cosworths chassis can handle over twice its standard power with no tuning re inforcements. You can chip the cosworth engine, cam the engine and getting around 400bhp out of a cosworth is actually relatively easy, and they are pretty light even though it has AWD.
@Englandforever91 agreed, i would have a cossie over a viper any day of the week. i cant actually remember writing the previous comment, think i mite have been drunk and watching random videos. i know how fast a cossie can be as i navigate in a group a tarmac spec escort, and the reaction you get from people is amazing as they are getting quite rare
a 2.0 turbo up to a think a 7.0 v 10.... in all that viper never got away from the cossie.... its a wee bit unfair that race but put the two cars on the road and race them and a think a cosworth would leave the viper in a cloud of dust.... mine would anyway... A have smoked dodge viper's easily at my local qtr mile...........
@CYB117 To be honest that dodge is American engineered so that probably drinks twice the amount of fuel as the escort, has an engine two times the size but still can't beat it in a race for shit. And it's a cosworth engine now they are amazing engines so reliable and forgiving unlike that dodge with it's crunchy gearbox and shit handling.
@isantimn You Americans really do steriotype us Brits. Lets put it this way, hardly anybody in Britain loves the queen in fact most people hate her, hardly anybody eat crumpets and most people do clean their teeth. Thats abit like saying all Americans are fat, loud, mcdonalds eating, steak licking, gun firing know it alls.
@isantimn Porbably the fact that they fall into the hands of idiots too easily and some poor fucker ends up being shot, the way you sound you have obviously never been to Britain in your life. I hate the queen, I don't eat crumpets, I don't drink tea, I clean my teeth twice a day but yet im a proud English man.. you shouldn't be so quick to steriotype.
@Englandforever91 Don't let the IDIOT get under your skin. I have lived in England and loved it. Anyone in the States claim carrying a gun is a Puss! They can't fight or think and to save their life. I have been a Cop for 8 years I don't like carrying a gun all the time.. I miss Tunnel running while in the Military with my Mustang! Loud and Fast. Brits are great people and fun to drink with. I miss the crazy weather, dry-wet-dry-wet! I became a better driver living there.
@Englandforever91 they are built totally different; the engine of a viper will still run after 250'000 miles without any problems while the escort must have it's 3rd engine-rebuild at least... i'd rather have a real torque-monster than a high reving performance-engine... i mean, most of the time you use it on the street so you don't use those high rpm all the time, do you?! plus it has a reason why they are always so good on the 24h-race on the NS - it's durability!
@purpleGoAhead Im sorry but your wrong the handling and quality on them vipers is apporling. The escort is a great car to live with every day. The viper on the other hand would be a nightmare. Look at it aswell lol. America in my eyes have never made a decent car.
@g0b4ckt0lumb Faster in a straight line maybe but in the real world thats no use. Americans seem to forget when making a car that in day to day life you will encounter corners. All American engineers are like children they think it's all about the engine size. They seem to forget a 5.0 v8 wont work in a car thats as heavy as a tank and that handles like a bag of shit. Interiors on American cars have alway been low budget n ugly too. When they do go lightweight they just fall apart like the Z06.
@Englandforever91 idk about you..but the viper is a drag god..ever heard of the texas state mile they get 3rd next to the ford gt at top,then the lambo gallardo..but that was before they could find a trans that could hold up to the 2000ft lbs of torque..type in on here underground racing viper and tell me that its a slow car...
@crzygutrsnobrdr Look im not interested. Cars with half the power would beat that heavy American shit with it's sloppy handling. American engineers really suck ass they think bigger is better like most people did when they were 13. All there cars are either fuel guzzling, poor handling, poor quality or just plain big and ugly rediculous looking things. Drag races in my eyes mean nothing because in the real world you do encounter bends in the road called corners something Americans dont notice.
@Englandforever91 actucally considering out of the top 4 texas mile cars..2 are american the ford gt and the viper..the gallardo from italy and then the supra from japan.and you dont think the ford gt can handle? obvisoully you dont know its so popular because the older gt40 beat ferrari in La mans.so douche bag you might want to reconsider.and both the gt and viper are v8's the gallardo is a v10 lol smaller isant better eaither.and drag racing takes a lot of skill that i guess you cant handle
@crzygutrsnobrdr So name me an American car thats small, light, comfortable, good quality and well handling all in one? Face facts there isnt one. And yes the lambo is a v10 but still doesnt guzzle fuel like that fuel guzzling American skip. Trust me light and basic is better. American engineers are shit.
@Englandforever91 if american engineers are shit then how did the cts-v did the nuringburg rin in less than 8 minutes.and yes the v10 does use a lot of gas.if you hammer it.but any car does.on top gear they drove a prius as hard as they could and had a brand new m3 nbehind it.and what got better gas melliage? the m3.your stupid
@crzygutrsnobrdr Hate to break it to you, but the original GT40 was made by a bunch of English engineers. If English engineers didn't make it in the first place; would you have the GT now?
@iCrunchyNutt yes ik..but what is america? a bunch of cultures in 1 place.does it matter what country it was designed in? no because we have english peopl here.as a matter of fact im english.sweedish.german.and irish..to me it doesent matter who "made" it because it matters what country it represented.and mabye we would.considering there are a ton of different things between the gt and the gt40..the size and the 5.4l sc v8
@crzygutrsnobrdr That wasn't the point you were making. You were defending American engineered cars. The GT40 wasn't an American engineered car and if there was no GT40 there would be no GT now. There may well be tons and tons of differences but it's still based on the originally British engineered race car. I'm not continuing arguing with you as I really am not fussed as to where a car is from, I'm just informing people of their mistakes and correct information. I have no favourite type of car.
@iCrunchyNutt well you just said "american engineers suck ass" and i dont think you realize...there really is no american.its a lot of european mixed into 1 culture.and litterally the only thing the same on it is the body style but yes without the gt40 there would be no gt.but even if the gt40 didnt beat ferrari in Le Mans it still would be here.so dont say american cars are shit because the gt40 and gt.arent that much alike.so yes american engineers are good at going straight!
@crzygutrsnobrdr I'm sorry. I must have missed where I personally said "american engineers suck ass". Come back and carry on arguing with me when you find a quote that I said. Not someone else from the same country.
@iCrunchyNutt really? read your comments from before that i just resent to you dill hole.and then come back to me and carry on arguing with me when you find it.now who feels like the tool? YOU
@crzygutrsnobrdr Look im not interested. Cars with half the power would beat that heavy American shit with it's sloppy handling. American engineers really suck ass they think bigger is better like most people did when they were 13. All there cars are either fuel guzzling, poor handling, poor quality or just plain big and ugly rediculous looking things. Drag races in my eyes mean nothing because in the real world you do encounter bends in the road called corners something Americans dont notice.
@crzygutrsnobrdr Oi you thick fuck. I did not post that. "Englandforever91" posted it. I'm loving the pointless abuse you gave me just because you're too thick to realise that it wasn't me. Now who's the "tool", you retard. Sort your fucking life out. Also, don't reply to this you narrow minded twat.
@Englandforever91 not really, ford motors really can't keep the rythm of dodge motors, and yes the escort keeps the rythm of the viper just because the weights... but in a racetrack, think this escort can? you gotta be dreaming...
@silenthilesco LOL. Escort cosworth has a good AWD system, it won the WRC twice! Great handling car with modern tyres! Clearly you know nothing, because on a twisty circuit an American car is the last thing id choose. They have gotten better but they still arent up to the standard of what most other places are making when it comes to the bends, mostly because your roads are alot different being straight. All 300BHP in that viper wasted going to the back wheels! Wanker.
@Englandforever91 I'm a huge fan of the Cossie, but to be honest, if I wanted to go as fast as humanly possible around a road course, the fastest production car in the world around the Nurburgring is a Dodge Viper ACR. It's just a fast car. 345mm wide rear tires, it can put the power down just fine. This looked like an old early 90s viper, which even then was 400hp, not 300. But they took a ballsy driver to push them hard.
@silenthilesco well basically no... the escort was designed for quickness and razor sharp handling, being rally bred and all that. and it being a much lighter car yes it would go around bends a lot easier. not being from america i cant really back up my arguement but american cars arent known for their handling. in fact doesnt the new corvette have leafsprings on the back? which car would i prefer? i would have to say the viper, but with a few mods the escort could be a much better car on track
Fords in America are made in a different factory to the ones in europe, the ones in europe have such better handling and better looks you don't get many rediculous 8.0 fords in England and as you can see here that ford escort is only 2.0 turbo and if it can keep up with the viper 8.0 thats embarassing really
@Englandforever91 In fairness, Europe has taxes and driving licenses based on HP and/or displacement if I'm not mistaken. The USA doesn't have those restraints, and frankly, because of much more flat, wide open roads than Europe (which has more rolling hills and the roads move with the land instead of cut through it), combined with fuel prices 2-3x higher than the USA, the vehicles are just different. That's also not a stock 2.0 Turbo Escort, for what it's worth.
@Milehighsnake98 well said, different cars for different things :)
but that cant be much more then stock, a couple of grand should get you in the 400+ bhp and with awd it would launch better and give the viper a run for its money (atleast til the viper got going) that cossie was beat from the start, even a clean stock should do better then that
@killionair13 8.0 v10 that produces 400bhp... fucking embarassment if you ask me!! Just sums up American engineering. And you mock us Brits for not having a car industry, id rather have none than produce the shit you Americans make, your cars insult the rest of the world! Also I would like to know although we don't own many car companies we still have alot of factories that produce and design cars over here, and they can get 400bhp from a 2.0 litre turbo they wouldn't need a ridiculous block!!
@Englandforever91 Im not mocking you or your country. I think the cars that you guys build and tune are just as good as anything else. I was just trying to say the viper isn't a piece of junk and that if that guy who owns the car decided to put money into it like the escort guy did the viper would be pretty fast too. Look up hennessey and some of the vipers that come out of their shop.
@killionair13 So you think 400bhp from a 8.0 v10 is showing us whats technically possible? I'm not here for an arguement im just here to prove what a heap of shit the dodge viper really is. A car which burns itself, has a terrible chassis and a very underpowered heavy engine and is about as balanced as my grandad on a skateboard...
Yup. Ford WAS american. Until it fucked up bigtime. Us British came in and sorted it all out. Hence now why Ford is one of the most reliable and best car producers in the world, for family, and performance. RS and ST and Cosworth. I'm sure it works with Germany or it's built in Germany now? Either way, Germans are the daddy's at building cars.
Thats true. English designed european fords had it in the 80's and 90's, they're were the best of the best, the kings of the automotive world but these days they're building pure CRAP! Ford should go bust now. Old skool ford for life!
guys to clarify it out, ford is in two divisions, the european one which came up with the jaguar xf and the American one which was in chrisis. They are treated as two different companies or entities.
ford is british its our company and was stole by americans (who are fat) and they started making shit fords that wer too slow and way too wide could only fir one american in, but it could fit 5 british people in FAT FUKS!!!!!
probly when u wer born kiddo they were already way into fucking it all up.
So well done but tonight when you go to bed, you no get tucked in get a hot chocolate, and just think about what you just commented and dwell yourself to sleep!!!
(obviously drink the hot chocolate first, avoiding hot spillages)
I'm not sure what your talking about, but all i know is Henry Ford, an AMERICAN, founded the company in AMERICA, in the early 1900's . Maybe you should do some research, read a book about Ford or something, because what i am saying is fact.
i dont blame you ive seen some people with wonky teeth so you wouldnt be wrong but theres probly more people in the usa withe fucked up teeth due to it beeing about 20 times bigger!!!
hipidude12 you are a "douchebag" the Escort RS Cosworth was never built by Ford in Britain, they were all built by Karmann in Germany. Also, that video has got a French speaking commentator, so that isn't in Britain either. Idiot.
HAHAHA did someone seriously say ford is british that might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen commented on youtube. If ford is british then chevrolet is what?...Italian maybe
omg so many dumbasses over here... Viper = piece of rusty shit! Ford is american thats right! Cosworth is a firm which was found in england Cosworth means Costington & Duckworth! The escorts are build in germany. german car means quality cosworth means power and efficiency! The Viper engine is completely oversized inefficiant and this cars for undersized people... as well as their brain and their little thingy between their legs ;) so long
It's so fucking true! Your so right. When will people understand american engines shouldnt be in cars - they should be in museums on a podium and thats it. Thats all they're good for. American cars are embarrassments. Cosworth is one of the best, if not THE best and if you know what your talking about, you have a cosworth badge on your car. Otherwise you got a mini metro or a type R civic LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yeah your right, Henry Ford was from manchester,not Detroit.........but then i guess you dont know who henry ford was,you know,...with you being a simpleton and all that.............
Couldn't have put it better myself. Now Cosworth are making engine's more the "Kahn" Range Rover's and Aston Martin's new One-77, you know, the new most expensive car in the world. Gold plated engine bay ftw!
It's neither english or american, his argument is that 'Ford' is an american company. Ok yes, But 'Cosworth' is based in London. It was more of a joint effort. As was with most of the other Cosworths. And for the record, the viper IS shit. Shit worksmanship, Shit handling. I'm not even keen on the looks.
The Escort Cosworth was designed by the english, two guys from convertry to be precise, and built in Rheine, Germany... as were most of the RS models.
oh and "Cosworth" is based in northampton, not London.
the escort cosworth was created at the dunton reseach centre in essex,england. they still have RS owners meatings there from time to time, as well have the development car there on show
I think the Viper would beat the Cossy in coners to! We drive a 1972 Corvette, and we have no problems overtaking TUNED Cosworth's like this in the corners ;)
Thats probably because the cosworths you've been overtaking are on tickover doing 30mph, the max speed american cars can take corners at, before you end up wrapped in a tree. On fire. In pain.
It's also a "Big Turbo" model with plenty of lag.........I should know, I've got one, but get it past 3500 rpm and it'll give you a kick up the arse!!! Having launch control helps!! By the way let's see how the Viper would fair against the same size engined RS200!! 0-60 in 3.2 secs!!!
scouse21 1 month ago
Shows the superiority of...oh wait...I just watched the video...what happened? Cosworths are AWD, even without any modification he should have taken off far faster than the Viper...
YourGodStalin 3 months ago
cossy won b4 it even moved alone viper= yank piece of shit
69bobjim 3 months ago
He didn't even make any attempt to launch... it's not even a "race".....
Bduke1000 3 months ago
A V8 modern car vs a 2000cm3 car, made in 1992. And let's not compare the price.
timisica 4 months ago
Looks like the Viper got a bad start and was still ahead even though he was on the outside. And really dipshits...you'd take an Escort over a Viper?
PortlandViper 4 months ago
@PortlandViper Yeah, I would, fuck Vipers, Cossie FTW!
feki122 4 months ago
@PortlandViper No, but I would certainly own them side by side. Hard to have fun in a Viper in a Colorado mountain winter...And there's Vipers available everywhere, Cosworth Escorts (which share literally NOTHING with US Escorts) are very rare. But this does look like an early Gen1 Viper.
Milehighsnake98 4 months ago
is the viper 8000cc? cosworth is 2000!
itanh81 5 months ago
Dodge is a gay car!
SameBzdury 6 months ago
you cant beleive this video! a tuned cossie against a standard viper is an easy victory for the cossie. but if u spent the same amount of money on the viper engine it wud rip the cossie to pieces in a straight line!!if u givehennessey 100ngrand they make a viper do 240 mph. u give companies 100 grand to modify an escort they concentrate on acceleration and handling
andrewbradley130 7 months ago
@andrewbradley130 Yes but that is straight line performance, no use if you live in Europe and the escort cosworth was aimed at the Europeon market, also that is not true, that cosworth engine is actually very tunable and the cosworths chassis can handle over twice its standard power with no tuning re inforcements. You can chip the cosworth engine, cam the engine and getting around 400bhp out of a cosworth is actually relatively easy, and they are pretty light even though it has AWD.
Englandforever91 6 months ago
@Englandforever91 agreed, i would have a cossie over a viper any day of the week. i cant actually remember writing the previous comment, think i mite have been drunk and watching random videos. i know how fast a cossie can be as i navigate in a group a tarmac spec escort, and the reaction you get from people is amazing as they are getting quite rare
andrewbradley130 6 months ago
jaki wynik?
arekzegarek40 7 months ago
poor viper!
jonessantos21 9 months ago
a 2.0 turbo up to a think a 7.0 v 10.... in all that viper never got away from the cossie.... its a wee bit unfair that race but put the two cars on the road and race them and a think a cosworth would leave the viper in a cloud of dust.... mine would anyway... A have smoked dodge viper's easily at my local qtr mile...........
thebulldogman 1 year ago
@thebulldogman haha, as usual america thinks bigger is better. the viper is an 8.0! a few bends and the cossie would show it whos boss!
davehayes2204 9 months ago
@davehayes2204 totally agree withyou
thebulldogman 9 months ago
The viper still won dispite the crappy start.
jakeplayerjp 1 year ago
That viper took off like shit.
jakeplayerjp 1 year ago
I guess the Escort has the benefit of 4WD
ImRatherTall 1 year ago
i dont like dodge but i like fords less i thinks the dodge was auto with a slugy take of liek that
oldboi1 1 year ago
Who the fuck are people these days to compare German handbuilt, cosworth engined, lightweight escort to some fuel guzzling American pile of shit.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 oh yeah cause 2.0's are so amazing get over yourself
CYB117 1 year ago
@CYB117 To be honest that dodge is American engineered so that probably drinks twice the amount of fuel as the escort, has an engine two times the size but still can't beat it in a race for shit. And it's a cosworth engine now they are amazing engines so reliable and forgiving unlike that dodge with it's crunchy gearbox and shit handling.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 long live the queen...
isantimn 1 year ago
@isantimn You Americans really do steriotype us Brits. Lets put it this way, hardly anybody in Britain loves the queen in fact most people hate her, hardly anybody eat crumpets and most people do clean their teeth. Thats abit like saying all Americans are fat, loud, mcdonalds eating, steak licking, gun firing know it alls.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 Now I have to admit that is some shit you came up with!!
But whats wrong with gun firing know it alls? I have a gun on my side and have for 12 years now everyday.
isantimn 1 year ago
@isantimn Porbably the fact that they fall into the hands of idiots too easily and some poor fucker ends up being shot, the way you sound you have obviously never been to Britain in your life. I hate the queen, I don't eat crumpets, I don't drink tea, I clean my teeth twice a day but yet im a proud English man.. you shouldn't be so quick to steriotype.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 Don't let the IDIOT get under your skin. I have lived in England and loved it. Anyone in the States claim carrying a gun is a Puss! They can't fight or think and to save their life. I have been a Cop for 8 years I don't like carrying a gun all the time.. I miss Tunnel running while in the Military with my Mustang! Loud and Fast. Brits are great people and fun to drink with. I miss the crazy weather, dry-wet-dry-wet! I became a better driver living there.
77erman 1 year ago
@77erman Yeah, people like him are why Americans have a bad name...
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 Hey!....we don't lick our steaks! we eat em! Now pass that steak knife...My fat ass is late for lunch at McDonalds! LOL!
SR71BBFLYER 9 months ago
que basura por dios el escort
LUCHOGAMBA28 1 year ago
Putain puissante la corsworth !
Bon les rageux c'est du 600ch la viper un peu normal quel la win
chrisjahim 1 year ago
Are they really drag racing on a road that curves at the end? Silly Frenchmen...
tyslink 1 year ago
Dodge are shit!
Englandforever91 2 years ago 32
@Englandforever91 they are built totally different; the engine of a viper will still run after 250'000 miles without any problems while the escort must have it's 3rd engine-rebuild at least... i'd rather have a real torque-monster than a high reving performance-engine... i mean, most of the time you use it on the street so you don't use those high rpm all the time, do you?! plus it has a reason why they are always so good on the 24h-race on the NS - it's durability!
purpleGoAhead 1 year ago
@purpleGoAhead the cosworth engines are race engines and will last forever. but you must maintain it just like any other engine.
danelio 1 year ago
@purpleGoAhead Im sorry but your wrong the handling and quality on them vipers is apporling. The escort is a great car to live with every day. The viper on the other hand would be a nightmare. Look at it aswell lol. America in my eyes have never made a decent car.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 are you saying that because the viper is faster than your car?
g0b4ckt0lumb 1 year ago
@g0b4ckt0lumb Faster in a straight line maybe but in the real world thats no use. Americans seem to forget when making a car that in day to day life you will encounter corners. All American engineers are like children they think it's all about the engine size. They seem to forget a 5.0 v8 wont work in a car thats as heavy as a tank and that handles like a bag of shit. Interiors on American cars have alway been low budget n ugly too. When they do go lightweight they just fall apart like the Z06.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 we live in belguim and we have a dodge ram 1500 daytona its a beast on the road
g0b4ckt0lumb 1 year ago
@g0b4ckt0lumb Handling is poor.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 no it isnt
g0b4ckt0lumb 1 year ago
@g0b4ckt0lumb Haha thats like saying a slug can move fast.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 omg get a life and a DODGE
g0b4ckt0lumb 1 year ago
@g0b4ckt0lumb I wouldn't do that I have some common sense.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 idk about you..but the viper is a drag god..ever heard of the texas state mile they get 3rd next to the ford gt at top,then the lambo gallardo..but that was before they could find a trans that could hold up to the 2000ft lbs of torque..type in on here underground racing viper and tell me that its a slow car...
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr Look im not interested. Cars with half the power would beat that heavy American shit with it's sloppy handling. American engineers really suck ass they think bigger is better like most people did when they were 13. All there cars are either fuel guzzling, poor handling, poor quality or just plain big and ugly rediculous looking things. Drag races in my eyes mean nothing because in the real world you do encounter bends in the road called corners something Americans dont notice.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 actucally considering out of the top 4 texas mile cars..2 are american the ford gt and the viper..the gallardo from italy and then the supra from japan.and you dont think the ford gt can handle? obvisoully you dont know its so popular because the older gt40 beat ferrari in La mans.so douche bag you might want to reconsider.and both the gt and viper are v8's the gallardo is a v10 lol smaller isant better eaither.and drag racing takes a lot of skill that i guess you cant handle
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr So name me an American car thats small, light, comfortable, good quality and well handling all in one? Face facts there isnt one. And yes the lambo is a v10 but still doesnt guzzle fuel like that fuel guzzling American skip. Trust me light and basic is better. American engineers are shit.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 if american engineers are shit then how did the cts-v did the nuringburg rin in less than 8 minutes.and yes the v10 does use a lot of gas.if you hammer it.but any car does.on top gear they drove a prius as hard as they could and had a brand new m3 nbehind it.and what got better gas melliage? the m3.your stupid
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr You know nothing. American cars are more common for fuel guzzling and falling to bits.
Englandforever91 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr Hate to break it to you, but the original GT40 was made by a bunch of English engineers. If English engineers didn't make it in the first place; would you have the GT now?
iCrunchyNutt 1 year ago
@iCrunchyNutt yes ik..but what is america? a bunch of cultures in 1 place.does it matter what country it was designed in? no because we have english peopl here.as a matter of fact im english.sweedish.german.and irish..to me it doesent matter who "made" it because it matters what country it represented.and mabye we would.considering there are a ton of different things between the gt and the gt40..the size and the 5.4l sc v8
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr That wasn't the point you were making. You were defending American engineered cars. The GT40 wasn't an American engineered car and if there was no GT40 there would be no GT now. There may well be tons and tons of differences but it's still based on the originally British engineered race car. I'm not continuing arguing with you as I really am not fussed as to where a car is from, I'm just informing people of their mistakes and correct information. I have no favourite type of car.
iCrunchyNutt 1 year ago
@iCrunchyNutt well you just said "american engineers suck ass" and i dont think you realize...there really is no american.its a lot of european mixed into 1 culture.and litterally the only thing the same on it is the body style but yes without the gt40 there would be no gt.but even if the gt40 didnt beat ferrari in Le Mans it still would be here.so dont say american cars are shit because the gt40 and gt.arent that much alike.so yes american engineers are good at going straight!
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr I'm sorry. I must have missed where I personally said "american engineers suck ass". Come back and carry on arguing with me when you find a quote that I said. Not someone else from the same country.
iCrunchyNutt 1 year ago
@iCrunchyNutt really? read your comments from before that i just resent to you dill hole.and then come back to me and carry on arguing with me when you find it.now who feels like the tool? YOU
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr Look im not interested. Cars with half the power would beat that heavy American shit with it's sloppy handling. American engineers really suck ass they think bigger is better like most people did when they were 13. All there cars are either fuel guzzling, poor handling, poor quality or just plain big and ugly rediculous looking things. Drag races in my eyes mean nothing because in the real world you do encounter bends in the road called corners something Americans dont notice.
crzygutrsnobrdr 1 year ago
@crzygutrsnobrdr Oi you thick fuck. I did not post that. "Englandforever91" posted it. I'm loving the pointless abuse you gave me just because you're too thick to realise that it wasn't me. Now who's the "tool", you retard. Sort your fucking life out. Also, don't reply to this you narrow minded twat.
iCrunchyNutt 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 you are a shit
Edgarenho 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 how so
CYB117 1 year ago
@Englandforever91 not really, ford motors really can't keep the rythm of dodge motors, and yes the escort keeps the rythm of the viper just because the weights... but in a racetrack, think this escort can? you gotta be dreaming...
silenthilesco 6 months ago
@silenthilesco LOL. Escort cosworth has a good AWD system, it won the WRC twice! Great handling car with modern tyres! Clearly you know nothing, because on a twisty circuit an American car is the last thing id choose. They have gotten better but they still arent up to the standard of what most other places are making when it comes to the bends, mostly because your roads are alot different being straight. All 300BHP in that viper wasted going to the back wheels! Wanker.
Englandforever91 6 months ago
@Englandforever91 I'm a huge fan of the Cossie, but to be honest, if I wanted to go as fast as humanly possible around a road course, the fastest production car in the world around the Nurburgring is a Dodge Viper ACR. It's just a fast car. 345mm wide rear tires, it can put the power down just fine. This looked like an old early 90s viper, which even then was 400hp, not 300. But they took a ballsy driver to push them hard.
Milehighsnake98 4 months ago
@silenthilesco well basically no... the escort was designed for quickness and razor sharp handling, being rally bred and all that. and it being a much lighter car yes it would go around bends a lot easier. not being from america i cant really back up my arguement but american cars arent known for their handling. in fact doesnt the new corvette have leafsprings on the back? which car would i prefer? i would have to say the viper, but with a few mods the escort could be a much better car on track
garyegt 6 months ago
that was a 1.3 litre ford escort plus
superstratboy 2 years ago
no it was a 1.6gt model
danohopo 2 years ago
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Englandforever91 2 years ago
@Englandforever91 u eman an 8.0 v10
eagletalonpl 2 years ago
And a 2.0 turbo cosworth kept up with it. See just sums up Americas engineers really.... shit
Englandforever91 2 years ago
its the ammount of money spent is different, im a fan of turbo engine i have a 2.3 turbo but stock for stock it has no chance
eagletalonpl 2 years ago
im sorry though no one is going to change my opinion on shit American engineers.
Englandforever91 2 years ago 2
@eagletalonpl mazda speed 3?
Kahngaidin 1 year ago
saab 9-5 aero check my profile.
eagletalonpl 1 year ago
haha and that wasnt even a cossie it was only a rep there only a 1.6 gt engine and some are 2.0litre redtop non turbo ...
danohopo 2 years ago
for one i am a ford fanatic but ford is made in america the viper isnt crap its an 8.0 v10 and that 5.o you described is a ford motor not mopar
killionair13 2 years ago
Fords in America are made in a different factory to the ones in europe, the ones in europe have such better handling and better looks you don't get many rediculous 8.0 fords in England and as you can see here that ford escort is only 2.0 turbo and if it can keep up with the viper 8.0 thats embarassing really
Englandforever91 2 years ago 20
@Englandforever91 its not ridiculous if you want a big engine
MrBarnz92 9 months ago
@Englandforever91 In fairness, Europe has taxes and driving licenses based on HP and/or displacement if I'm not mistaken. The USA doesn't have those restraints, and frankly, because of much more flat, wide open roads than Europe (which has more rolling hills and the roads move with the land instead of cut through it), combined with fuel prices 2-3x higher than the USA, the vehicles are just different. That's also not a stock 2.0 Turbo Escort, for what it's worth.
Milehighsnake98 4 months ago
@Milehighsnake98 well said, different cars for different things :)
but that cant be much more then stock, a couple of grand should get you in the 400+ bhp and with awd it would launch better and give the viper a run for its money (atleast til the viper got going) that cossie was beat from the start, even a clean stock should do better then that
vapour80 3 months ago
@killionair13 8.0 v10 that produces 400bhp... fucking embarassment if you ask me!! Just sums up American engineering. And you mock us Brits for not having a car industry, id rather have none than produce the shit you Americans make, your cars insult the rest of the world! Also I would like to know although we don't own many car companies we still have alot of factories that produce and design cars over here, and they can get 400bhp from a 2.0 litre turbo they wouldn't need a ridiculous block!!
Englandforever91 8 months ago
@Englandforever91 Im not mocking you or your country. I think the cars that you guys build and tune are just as good as anything else. I was just trying to say the viper isn't a piece of junk and that if that guy who owns the car decided to put money into it like the escort guy did the viper would be pretty fast too. Look up hennessey and some of the vipers that come out of their shop.
killionair13 8 months ago
@killionair13 So you think 400bhp from a 8.0 v10 is showing us whats technically possible? I'm not here for an arguement im just here to prove what a heap of shit the dodge viper really is. A car which burns itself, has a terrible chassis and a very underpowered heavy engine and is about as balanced as my grandad on a skateboard...
Englandforever91 8 months ago
this isn't RS, but Cosworth 4x4..!!!
josefosmy 2 years ago
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ford is french
tanaii1 2 years ago
lol :D
Tezla82 2 years ago
who gives a fuck? shit vid anyway!!
69funkymark69 2 years ago
Yup. Ford WAS american. Until it fucked up bigtime. Us British came in and sorted it all out. Hence now why Ford is one of the most reliable and best car producers in the world, for family, and performance. RS and ST and Cosworth. I'm sure it works with Germany or it's built in Germany now? Either way, Germans are the daddy's at building cars.
MartiniDrummer 2 years ago
Ford are neither bench setters in performance or build quality anymore.
bigjonnyjon 2 years ago
@bigjonnyjon
Thats true. English designed european fords had it in the 80's and 90's, they're were the best of the best, the kings of the automotive world but these days they're building pure CRAP! Ford should go bust now. Old skool ford for life!
LIP15 2 years ago
guys to clarify it out, ford is in two divisions, the european one which came up with the jaguar xf and the American one which was in chrisis. They are treated as two different companies or entities.
kusmake 2 years ago
if the usa ford make profits from ford europe then its same entity
bigjonnyjon 2 years ago
here is a link to assist you in understanding the situation. I do hope it helps and i do appreciate your argument.
kusmake 2 years ago
ford is british its our company and was stole by americans (who are fat) and they started making shit fords that wer too slow and way too wide could only fir one american in, but it could fit 5 british people in FAT FUKS!!!!!
mizlopi 2 years ago
LOL!
thekang54 2 years ago
Ford first started in America...
lunnyyy 2 years ago
probly when u wer born kiddo they were already way into fucking it all up.
So well done but tonight when you go to bed, you no get tucked in get a hot chocolate, and just think about what you just commented and dwell yourself to sleep!!!
(obviously drink the hot chocolate first, avoiding hot spillages)
mizlopi 2 years ago
I'm not sure what your talking about, but all i know is Henry Ford, an AMERICAN, founded the company in AMERICA, in the early 1900's . Maybe you should do some research, read a book about Ford or something, because what i am saying is fact.
lunnyyy 2 years ago
ford was started by henry ford and not of us americans are fatasses, its like us making fun of the ugly british fucks with fucked up teeth
NismoPWNS 2 years ago
i dont blame you ive seen some people with wonky teeth so you wouldnt be wrong but theres probly more people in the usa withe fucked up teeth due to it beeing about 20 times bigger!!!
mizlopi 2 years ago 2
@NismoPW mate if rather be english and have bad teeth then not being able to walk you fat CUNT GO EAT A NUVER BURGER
NEZODOTTKIDD 2 years ago
jackass, im a vegetarian you FAIL.
NismoPWNS 2 years ago
No henry ford was american, every single ford has been designed from 1907, apart from stuff like RS's and cosworth's, who are british
eljaco88 2 years ago 3
Look at where the gearbox came from in the RS Cosworth lol
bigjonnyjon 2 years ago
hipidude12 you are a "douchebag" the Escort RS Cosworth was never built by Ford in Britain, they were all built by Karmann in Germany. Also, that video has got a French speaking commentator, so that isn't in Britain either. Idiot.
montecarlofiesta 2 years ago
are you sure? cosworth are a british company tho? why would they get it built in germany buy a company that make in car entertainment?
MattGilmore1 2 years ago
yeh same soory had a ii had a bad day :l
hipidude12 2 years ago
henry ford might b american but the rs cosworths are made in britian m8 (Y)
hipidude12 2 years ago
FORD iS BRiTiSH U FUCKING COCK!
JEEEEEEEZ
hipidude12 2 years ago
you are a fucking idiot eat a dick cunt
thekang54 2 years ago
yeh ford is english u retard
nissan ad australiian u cunt
go fuck ur dead nan up the arse hole
hipidude12 2 years ago
fords english u dick
hipidude12 2 years ago
HAHAHA did someone seriously say ford is british that might be the dumbest thing I have ever seen commented on youtube. If ford is british then chevrolet is what?...Italian maybe
b0wd0wn89 2 years ago
the escort rs is a fucking brute!
slinkytheboostjunky 2 years ago 23
fuckin french when will they learn their langy=uage is annoying
wakawakawuwi 2 years ago
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Minwo0 2 years ago
aliciento42 2 years ago
ty for tsaying that i would of never guessed
ideebeast 2 years ago
It's so fucking true! Your so right. When will people understand american engines shouldnt be in cars - they should be in museums on a podium and thats it. Thats all they're good for. American cars are embarrassments. Cosworth is one of the best, if not THE best and if you know what your talking about, you have a cosworth badge on your car. Otherwise you got a mini metro or a type R civic LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
LIP15 2 years ago
thats y american muscle beats tuner
naffa08 2 years ago
hahaha, it doesnt.
LIP15 2 years ago
ford aint america u dick its british
hipidude12 2 years ago
Yeah your right, Henry Ford was from manchester,not Detroit.........but then i guess you dont know who henry ford was,you know,...with you being a simpleton and all that.............
hogtiedster 2 years ago
Couldn't have put it better myself. Now Cosworth are making engine's more the "Kahn" Range Rover's and Aston Martin's new One-77, you know, the new most expensive car in the world. Gold plated engine bay ftw!
yemightylaminator 2 years ago
Just like saying the earth is round, dodge vipers CANT turn corners and are completely shite!! Fact!!
StevenJay369 2 years ago
The Dodge Viper ACR hold's the Nurburgring production car record. That has plenty of corners in it.
yemightylaminator 2 years ago
That is a shite excuse for a Cosworth.
Slow, shitty acceleration.
A well tuned, or maybe well driven Cosworth would have smoked that American piece of shit.
XD
Intermit 2 years ago
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i like how u called the viper an american piece of shit when the ford escort cosworth was american too hahaha
manoftheyear69 2 years ago
At no point in my statement did i say the Cosworth wasn't American. I just said that the viper was an american piece of shit. Better luck next time.
Intermit 2 years ago
well i thought u were saying that all american cars are pieces of shit... and the dodge viper is no piece of shit btw
manoftheyear69 2 years ago
what are you talking about ?? cosworths not american, never has been and never will be
johnlovincosworth 2 years ago
It's neither english or american, his argument is that 'Ford' is an american company. Ok yes, But 'Cosworth' is based in London. It was more of a joint effort. As was with most of the other Cosworths. And for the record, the viper IS shit. Shit worksmanship, Shit handling. I'm not even keen on the looks.
Intermit 2 years ago
The Escort Cosworth was designed by the english, two guys from convertry to be precise, and built in Rheine, Germany... as were most of the RS models.
oh and "Cosworth" is based in northampton, not London.
chopshop85 2 years ago
Yeah, i meant founded in London.
Intermit 2 years ago
the escort cosworth was created at the dunton reseach centre in essex,england. they still have RS owners meatings there from time to time, as well have the development car there on show
vapour80 2 years ago
american shit, is just good on a f*cking straight line, lets put these 2 cars in a real track with curves to see how is the best
djmhyde 3 years ago 2
i agree. and im from america and drive a chevy.. lol
labreck12 2 years ago
I think the Viper would beat the Cossy in coners to! We drive a 1972 Corvette, and we have no problems overtaking TUNED Cosworth's like this in the corners ;)
CorvetteMichael 2 years ago
you put the 2 cars in a track to say that? no, so, is just you think, nothing more
djmhyde 2 years ago
Thats probably because the cosworths you've been overtaking are on tickover doing 30mph, the max speed american cars can take corners at, before you end up wrapped in a tree. On fire. In pain.
MrORLY 2 years ago 5
obviously the viper is gonna win, yeh, the cosworth is fast as hell but the viper is an 8.0L V10! i mean what the fuck you thinks gonna happen!
DJchecko88 3 years ago
Engine size doesn't mean everything, you also have to take into consideration of power to weight, grip, age, and even track conditions.
However considering that looks like a near stock cossie, it did pretty well since it did keep up with the viper off the line.
DizzyTheSuccubus 2 years ago
its a slow cosworth!!!!
SCOTTISHPATRIOT85 3 years ago
thats a cossie
dave23486 3 years ago 2
yeap, a cosworth no doubt
fcerratu 3 years ago
1992 Viper rt/10
eyeoftheebeerholder 3 years ago