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  • @glenbadham Thanks

  • so... do i now need a better pc for dx11?

  • Buy a $600 multicore (core2duo/i3/i5) computer (or one lying around the house) + put a $300 video card in = you get the performance of a $1500 pre built gaming computer!

  • it doesn't take much, just a half-decent videocard, $150-200 will get you a great experience

  • @xixXJoshXxix make a research :) with due respect, xbox uses anoher technology, it competes with dx 10 itself, we don't need dx 10, but I do want it for my pc though, lol

  • nice game really fun to chop humans heads off:P

    but its way to short and that sucks :(

  • @xixXJoshXxix this game sucksss

  • @SuperMarvelUniverse Damn right. it will suck with or without DX11 tesselations. Game itself is important. PC games are only about graphics and no gameplay.

  • @psychonaut25 you are an idiot. PC games have far better gameplay on average then consoles. Better control schemes, more access to rescources, and older/more mature audience in general.

  • @Obscurosphere Oh yes, you are right. Older audience, so you can all together remembering the "glory days" of PC gaming...when the world was not so sick as today with it's consoles....

  • @psychonaut25 steam alone has 30 million unique and active users. way more than either xbox live or psn

  • @psychonaut25 uh hu - because pc games are all graphics and no gameplay? How moronic is that statement... Tell me - what flight sims are on consoles? What high level rts or tbs games are on consoles? None!

    

  • @xixXJoshXxix I have a PS2, and an N64, so I get even better graphics. Eat that, bitch.

  • Looking at the wireframes, I don't see why they've called this "Tessellation". Tessellation would mean that the polygons are constant. What I'm seeing in Tessellation demos are fractal wireframes. They just get less complex as you move away, more complex as you zoom in.

    Am I making sense? Could an Uber-Tech clarify please?

  • @checomrie Seems the same to me.

  • @xixXJoshXxix With Ubisoft pc gamers are the unluckiest gamers you may ever meet ... believe me

  • @abdo1597413

    very true. Ubi is developing for the consoles (mainly xbox) and then porting those games to a pc and PS3 version. This worked when the 360 was still new but PC's can be upgraded very easily, consoles can't. Which means that modern pc's don't have to work that hard and the gfx stink compared to PC based games. I've got an XFX 5850 and I'd like to use it.. come on ubi -.-

  • Even the best cards on the market average 40-70 FPS. DX11 takes a big performance hit on this game. Especially when you have the light on with alot of enemies around.

  • @Chronolyse My 5870 with DX11 @ 1920x1200 on AVP with all setting maxed never dropped below 60....I think your underestimating how powerful these new cards are.

  • @ShityThePirate from what I seen from benchmarks nvidia does alot better with dx 11

  • @psp785 Did I say the Radeon was better? No? I'm just not a fan of a gpu that reaches 100c and burns 250w when only being "slightly" better than one that uses half that and doesn't go above 60c.

  • great game! could be better but it's awesome to play as a predator or alien.

  • AvP was an awesome demonstration of DX11. Love it for that. Pity the game lasted a few short hours in single player mode and totally sucks for multiplayer compared to TF2. BC2. The game is one great tech demo, but thats about it. You cant even use cover, duck etc as a marine. A step backwards in terms of gameplay for me. But I liked it for the single player atmosphere. Just feel ripped off by the lack of content.

  • @elfholm: lucky son of a bitch

  • I have 5770 and c2d 5400@3.6ghz 4gb ram on win7 64 and run this game full dx11 everything maxed and 4x software aa. I get 40-60 fps after the 1.1 steam update and ati 10.3 pre release ccc. Awesome fun! Great gfx card!

  • @peaceful cheeta what are you talking about "Fixed that for you" i got everything right. I know there was a hack to get DX10 working with XP but i hace been talking only about official support.

  • in nvidia gt240

    1280x1025

    full graphics

    lag??

  • yes

  • um no vista is only dx10.

  • No, Vista & W7 have Dx11

    XP has DX9 only

  • your not wrong. I was unaware that the update had already been released. Then now it goes

    Win7+HD5***=DX11

    Vista+HD5***=DX11

    XP+HD5***=DX9

    It doesn't matter if you've got a DX11 card in XP it still will only run in DX9 mode. The code path is too complex for XP to handle.

  • *Microsoft wants you to buy the latest windows so they don't update DirectX for XP

    Fixed that for you. Remember DX10? XP COuld run that just fine :)

  • I wouldn't say its to complex for XP. I just imagine Microsoft are trying to push for upgrades. Fair enough really.

  • they just want money

  • @crasite Well they are in the business of making money, so I can't really blame them :P Plus they need to get people off XP so they can drop support for it and start to push even further forward.

  • ∴∠∴г∴'∴∧

    :countdown

  • You guys can run dx 11 if you got a dx10 driver, it'll act as a dx 10 instead of using dx 9. Works for me and i finally found a new supported file to play avp SLi, it's supported now at evga site. Great a graphics especially shadows and evironment but the only bad part is the lighting, it's so bad. The HDR and the glow. It's overdone and wrong.

  • so there is only dx9 and dx11 modes supported in the game but if I have a dx10 card I can force the game to run in dx10?? can i make the game think i have a dx11 card so it looks really good?

  • @Dfrogman you cannot force a card to run in a mode that has features it cannot handle. thats like putting dishes in a washing machine. DX10 and DX11 are completely different tins of paint and cannot be tricked into thinking one is the other.

  • So will the game run in dx9 like the demo? in my opinion the graphics in the demo are quite poor for the year 2010

  • @Dfrogman it will only run in what your card and OS are capable of. if your running windows 7 and have an ATI 5***card then yes, it will run in DX11. if you are running vista or xp, it does not matter if you have a DX11 card you still will not be able to play in DX11 because only windows seven supports this.

    so just to clarify

    windows 7+HD5***=AVP DX11

    Vista/XP=AVP DX9

  • MS said DirectX 11 will work o Vista and Windows 7, NOT ONLY windows 7 - i'm not sure how it looks like now cuz i've win7 but i think too many people have vista for microsoft to poop on them.

  • @Arkanen they actually said that an update would be released for vista in 2011 so at the moment it is still only Windows 7 that is DX11 capable

  • actually vista released and update last year that allows it to run dx11.

  • DX9 looks fine with this game. And i dont see anything difference with DX11 or DX10

  • Its like wine tasting, some people notice the differences while others dont.

    It shouldn't affect gameplay anyways.

  • That's a great analogy ;|

  • @razattack1337 ya people with dx11 cards notice the difference :') rofl

  • Dirt 2 looks good but most racing games do, Battle Forge has too much of a cartoony art style to show off DX11 & STALKER was a big disappointment. I can't see how AVP won't look even better in DX11 after all these tessellation videos.

  • I'm getting sick of ppl complaining about graphics like little children. Glad some ppl here appreciate how far we've come. I mean even the DX9 demo for AVP looks great. There is so much detail all pulled together by an awesome lighting system. I think all 3 character models hold a lot of awesome detail with a perfect art style to match but I must admit all the DX11 games seen so far are not very impressive for what they boast about DX11.

  • dude you so right, if you look back 10 years ago about how far we have come in 2010 and you actually think about it, its mind blowing, in the year 2000 halo wouldnt even be high tech for like 3 more years, and we all know how far we come since halo 1. its simply amazing, i remember playing the original command and conquer 15 years ago and that was high tech.

  • I agree:-) Look at 1st Alien vs predator from 1999 or AvP2 from 2001. Huge jump after 7 years. I wonder how the games will looks like in 2017:-)

  • well you can see where crysis is going. photo realism THAT IS MATE and that's the future of gaming. Anyhow my HD3870X2 handles this game very well at 1080p the only problem is my system ram which is ocz 4gbs but with the 32bit limitation my system crashes. Gonna install 64bit windows 7 i guess.

  • I can't help but notice you said 1080p, when referring to a computer >.>

    Also having 4gb on 32 bit wouldn't crash your computer. It just doesn't.

  • 1080p i meant 1920x1080 very high settings. My system just freezes. I dunno why.While playing crysis at high settings it does not happen.

  • just ignore the tard, some people don't get that 1080p is just a faster way of saying 1920x1080 and a vast amount of monitors these days use it.

    AvP runs great on my 5770 except for a couple of glitches here and there where the game will stutter when i'm not even doing anything lol.

  • yeah stuttering happens to me also but when i switch characters like after completing a mission for the next mission i choose predator the game does stutter for quite a while and runs smooth. Odd

  • when is this game releasing?

    Can I run this max with a core 2 duo @ 2.6ghz, 2gb ram, and a HD5770?

  • I would knock up the RAM but that would be easy i asume

  • nice soundtrack lol, but I love the whole idea of the game. Cant wait for it to come out

  • i got 280gtx@700mhz tri sli...i will smoke this game.

  • LOL but you won't be able to play it in DX11 so you are still missing out. HAHAAHAHAHa

  • but no DX11 or even 10.1 for u

    sry dude

  • smoke won't begin to describe it lol

  • you wont even be able to run dx11 api lol :p

  • My HD5850 can't wait for this great game - PC fuck the world!!

  • @AvataroftheDarkness

    My 5850 can neither :)

  • @AvataroftheDarkness u ment For The Win? o_O

  • I think PC gaming is percived to be over-priced.

    However, when you think about it, most people have a pc anyway, so you can discount that cost from the final build.

    If you just put £500 worth of parts in a pc instead of £300 whhen you build it, you'd get a much improved gaming experience over a £300 pc and an xbox

  • Besides that, PC games usually sell (@ Release) for about €45, Console games around €60

  • @picachuziom

    Untill you get the fine..

  • U right , but still FACT IS FACT U CAN DOWNLOAD FOR FREE , u r able to do it , thats what I mean :-)

  • Wrong

  • @D4NG3R03S Although console games can be re-selled. Just pointing it out. =)

  • @TheCrystalDuck u pay for what u get

  • @TheCrystalDuck Yeah but if you're like me and want to upgrade, but everything in your pc was made in 2003 you have to buy everything new if you want the shit to fit.

  • @TheCrystalDuck agreed , its realy just a matter of folks doing their homework and learning how to build their own rig so they know what their buying, installing and how to save on parts as they upgrade over time. i built a rig for around $300 the 1st time around and have played most "next gen" console games with maxed settings flawlessly in most cases after taking the time to research how to build a gaming pc from scratch, realy not that involving tbh

  • i hope this song is part of the soundtrack

  • it's not expensive to get the kit together for a decent mid range pc though. with a hd5770 (dx11 card) you'll be set back about £300-£350 with a quad core if you built it yourself. So only £50-£100 more than a ps3 with much (much much) cheaper games too!

  • and better graphics and a lot of others good stuf

  • not realy. build it yourself. you can save almost 50%

  • @nendo yeah I know. I did that. And it should be here exactly one week from now and it wasn't very expensive either (500 €) But I what I really meant is the High End pc's

  • @theeboy72 what do you mean should be here. you make it sound like you bought it from dell or somewhere where there assembled it for you. that not building your own pc as your paying someon else to do it. buy parts yourself and make it yourself. you save even more money

  • @theeboy72 PC's are fairly cheap know days. Well it seems that way now compared to lets say 2005. 700$ Can get you a pretty descent machine.

  • @JoinX3000 yeah thats kind of a huge myth Pc gaming is like looking for new car parts i have 2 rigs already set up to go for Dx11 games they both cost around 543$ per tower its all about looking for the parts and the right price

  • Well.. an Xbox 360 would cost you about €150.

    Speaking of car parts, let's make an comparison. If we say that the consoles/pc are the engine and graphics are the horsepower/torque. Which one do you think will run best, the engine that's been optimized and fine tuned for just one thing; power. Or the one that's been built together with some random parts?

    I'm not saying it's like that in the real world, but it COULD BE, but most game developers are probably too lazy to optimize the game.

  • The predator has a fuckload of polygons on his head, it looks almost solid in that 3D rendering part.

  • Oooooh, tessellation? I've been waiting for ages for that to kick in.

  • @Kazuma0Conor

    i know right.well the ones that were holding back tech was nvidia persuading microsoft that tessellation was a useless feature for gaming so they didn't put it in dx10 like they were suppose to,but now we finally have it ^^ Dirt 2 car models and driver models looks amazing with

    tessellation .

  • predator use CLOACK ENGAGED like crysis !! hahahaha tha's gonna be FUCKING AMAZING !!!

  • @zatlasba

    yea,but the predator had cloak way before crysis was even a thought :P

  • Certainly looks like a must buy! Along with a HD5850, 5870 or 5970 :D

  • i have been waiting for this game for.... ages.. hope my PC can handle it ( i am saving for upgrade in case it doesnt ) if it is better than the originals, which it looks like it will be, it will probaly one of the best games of all time!

  • Looks like ATI/AMD is paying Rebellion to have "The future is fusion" ad in games similar to what Nvidia did with "the way it's meant to be played". This is definitely the game that will make me upgrade to a dx 11 card.

  • FUCKING EPIC AS FUCK

  • must buy.

  • 0:38 i hope they have a threater system like in Halo 3, making screenshots, machinima, clips, reviews, and shots like that will be a lot easier and AWSOME

  • That would be awesome playing as an alien and trying to copy the movies and seeing how well you did. THAT WOULD BE GREAT!

  • Those characters are seriously starting to look like the CGI in the movie imagine where we are going to be in about ten years when you look back at the last ten in the gaming industry. :]

  • Oh sh*t!

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