Buy a $600 multicore (core2duo/i3/i5) computer (or one lying around the house) + put a $300 video card in = you get the performance of a $1500 pre built gaming computer!
@xixXJoshXxix make a research :) with due respect, xbox uses anoher technology, it competes with dx 10 itself, we don't need dx 10, but I do want it for my pc though, lol
@SuperMarvelUniverse Damn right. it will suck with or without DX11 tesselations. Game itself is important. PC games are only about graphics and no gameplay.
@psychonaut25 you are an idiot. PC games have far better gameplay on average then consoles. Better control schemes, more access to rescources, and older/more mature audience in general.
@Obscurosphere Oh yes, you are right. Older audience, so you can all together remembering the "glory days" of PC gaming...when the world was not so sick as today with it's consoles....
@psychonaut25 uh hu - because pc games are all graphics and no gameplay? How moronic is that statement... Tell me - what flight sims are on consoles? What high level rts or tbs games are on consoles? None!
Looking at the wireframes, I don't see why they've called this "Tessellation". Tessellation would mean that the polygons are constant. What I'm seeing in Tessellation demos are fractal wireframes. They just get less complex as you move away, more complex as you zoom in.
Am I making sense? Could an Uber-Tech clarify please?
very true. Ubi is developing for the consoles (mainly xbox) and then porting those games to a pc and PS3 version. This worked when the 360 was still new but PC's can be upgraded very easily, consoles can't. Which means that modern pc's don't have to work that hard and the gfx stink compared to PC based games. I've got an XFX 5850 and I'd like to use it.. come on ubi -.-
Even the best cards on the market average 40-70 FPS. DX11 takes a big performance hit on this game. Especially when you have the light on with alot of enemies around.
@Chronolyse My 5870 with DX11 @ 1920x1200 on AVP with all setting maxed never dropped below 60....I think your underestimating how powerful these new cards are.
@psp785 Did I say the Radeon was better? No? I'm just not a fan of a gpu that reaches 100c and burns 250w when only being "slightly" better than one that uses half that and doesn't go above 60c.
AvP was an awesome demonstration of DX11. Love it for that. Pity the game lasted a few short hours in single player mode and totally sucks for multiplayer compared to TF2. BC2. The game is one great tech demo, but thats about it. You cant even use cover, duck etc as a marine. A step backwards in terms of gameplay for me. But I liked it for the single player atmosphere. Just feel ripped off by the lack of content.
I have 5770 and c2d 5400@3.6ghz 4gb ram on win7 64 and run this game full dx11 everything maxed and 4x software aa. I get 40-60 fps after the 1.1 steam update and ati 10.3 pre release ccc. Awesome fun! Great gfx card!
@peaceful cheeta what are you talking about "Fixed that for you" i got everything right. I know there was a hack to get DX10 working with XP but i hace been talking only about official support.
@crasite Well they are in the business of making money, so I can't really blame them :P Plus they need to get people off XP so they can drop support for it and start to push even further forward.
You guys can run dx 11 if you got a dx10 driver, it'll act as a dx 10 instead of using dx 9. Works for me and i finally found a new supported file to play avp SLi, it's supported now at evga site. Great a graphics especially shadows and evironment but the only bad part is the lighting, it's so bad. The HDR and the glow. It's overdone and wrong.
so there is only dx9 and dx11 modes supported in the game but if I have a dx10 card I can force the game to run in dx10?? can i make the game think i have a dx11 card so it looks really good?
@Dfrogman you cannot force a card to run in a mode that has features it cannot handle. thats like putting dishes in a washing machine. DX10 and DX11 are completely different tins of paint and cannot be tricked into thinking one is the other.
@Dfrogman it will only run in what your card and OS are capable of. if your running windows 7 and have an ATI 5***card then yes, it will run in DX11. if you are running vista or xp, it does not matter if you have a DX11 card you still will not be able to play in DX11 because only windows seven supports this.
MS said DirectX 11 will work o Vista and Windows 7, NOT ONLY windows 7 - i'm not sure how it looks like now cuz i've win7 but i think too many people have vista for microsoft to poop on them.
Dirt 2 looks good but most racing games do, Battle Forge has too much of a cartoony art style to show off DX11 & STALKER was a big disappointment. I can't see how AVP won't look even better in DX11 after all these tessellation videos.
I'm getting sick of ppl complaining about graphics like little children. Glad some ppl here appreciate how far we've come. I mean even the DX9 demo for AVP looks great. There is so much detail all pulled together by an awesome lighting system. I think all 3 character models hold a lot of awesome detail with a perfect art style to match but I must admit all the DX11 games seen so far are not very impressive for what they boast about DX11.
dude you so right, if you look back 10 years ago about how far we have come in 2010 and you actually think about it, its mind blowing, in the year 2000 halo wouldnt even be high tech for like 3 more years, and we all know how far we come since halo 1. its simply amazing, i remember playing the original command and conquer 15 years ago and that was high tech.
well you can see where crysis is going. photo realism THAT IS MATE and that's the future of gaming. Anyhow my HD3870X2 handles this game very well at 1080p the only problem is my system ram which is ocz 4gbs but with the 32bit limitation my system crashes. Gonna install 64bit windows 7 i guess.
yeah stuttering happens to me also but when i switch characters like after completing a mission for the next mission i choose predator the game does stutter for quite a while and runs smooth. Odd
@TheCrystalDuck Yeah but if you're like me and want to upgrade, but everything in your pc was made in 2003 you have to buy everything new if you want the shit to fit.
@TheCrystalDuck agreed , its realy just a matter of folks doing their homework and learning how to build their own rig so they know what their buying, installing and how to save on parts as they upgrade over time. i built a rig for around $300 the 1st time around and have played most "next gen" console games with maxed settings flawlessly in most cases after taking the time to research how to build a gaming pc from scratch, realy not that involving tbh
it's not expensive to get the kit together for a decent mid range pc though. with a hd5770 (dx11 card) you'll be set back about £300-£350 with a quad core if you built it yourself. So only £50-£100 more than a ps3 with much (much much) cheaper games too!
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Not neccessary true. Consoles does only have 1 type of hardware, while on PC you have litteraly hundreds of different hardware types. In short: on a console, the game developer can optimize the performanze to perfection, while on PC they can't optimize as much because of all the differenet hardware.
@nendo yeah I know. I did that. And it should be here exactly one week from now and it wasn't very expensive either (500 €) But I what I really meant is the High End pc's
@theeboy72 what do you mean should be here. you make it sound like you bought it from dell or somewhere where there assembled it for you. that not building your own pc as your paying someon else to do it. buy parts yourself and make it yourself. you save even more money
@JoinX3000 yeah thats kind of a huge myth Pc gaming is like looking for new car parts i have 2 rigs already set up to go for Dx11 games they both cost around 543$ per tower its all about looking for the parts and the right price
Speaking of car parts, let's make an comparison. If we say that the consoles/pc are the engine and graphics are the horsepower/torque. Which one do you think will run best, the engine that's been optimized and fine tuned for just one thing; power. Or the one that's been built together with some random parts?
I'm not saying it's like that in the real world, but it COULD BE, but most game developers are probably too lazy to optimize the game.
i know right.well the ones that were holding back tech was nvidia persuading microsoft that tessellation was a useless feature for gaming so they didn't put it in dx10 like they were suppose to,but now we finally have it ^^ Dirt 2 car models and driver models looks amazing with
i have been waiting for this game for.... ages.. hope my PC can handle it ( i am saving for upgrade in case it doesnt ) if it is better than the originals, which it looks like it will be, it will probaly one of the best games of all time!
Looks like ATI/AMD is paying Rebellion to have "The future is fusion" ad in games similar to what Nvidia did with "the way it's meant to be played". This is definitely the game that will make me upgrade to a dx 11 card.
0:38 i hope they have a threater system like in Halo 3, making screenshots, machinima, clips, reviews, and shots like that will be a lot easier and AWSOME
Those characters are seriously starting to look like the CGI in the movie imagine where we are going to be in about ten years when you look back at the last ten in the gaming industry. :]
@glenbadham Thanks
monkey1o8 9 months ago
so... do i now need a better pc for dx11?
monkey1o8 10 months ago
Buy a $600 multicore (core2duo/i3/i5) computer (or one lying around the house) + put a $300 video card in = you get the performance of a $1500 pre built gaming computer!
leerman22 1 year ago
it doesn't take much, just a half-decent videocard, $150-200 will get you a great experience
syri0 1 year ago
@xixXJoshXxix make a research :) with due respect, xbox uses anoher technology, it competes with dx 10 itself, we don't need dx 10, but I do want it for my pc though, lol
HMZinSPOOKY 1 year ago
nice game really fun to chop humans heads off:P
but its way to short and that sucks :(
Arsjonisteman 1 year ago
@xixXJoshXxix this game sucksss
SuperMarvelUniverse 1 year ago
@SuperMarvelUniverse Damn right. it will suck with or without DX11 tesselations. Game itself is important. PC games are only about graphics and no gameplay.
psychonaut25 1 year ago
@psychonaut25 you are an idiot. PC games have far better gameplay on average then consoles. Better control schemes, more access to rescources, and older/more mature audience in general.
Obscurosphere 1 year ago
@Obscurosphere Oh yes, you are right. Older audience, so you can all together remembering the "glory days" of PC gaming...when the world was not so sick as today with it's consoles....
psychonaut25 1 year ago
@psychonaut25 steam alone has 30 million unique and active users. way more than either xbox live or psn
leerman22 1 year ago
@psychonaut25 uh hu - because pc games are all graphics and no gameplay? How moronic is that statement... Tell me - what flight sims are on consoles? What high level rts or tbs games are on consoles? None!
Obscurosphere 8 months ago
@xixXJoshXxix I have a PS2, and an N64, so I get even better graphics. Eat that, bitch.
Isakuma 1 year ago
Looking at the wireframes, I don't see why they've called this "Tessellation". Tessellation would mean that the polygons are constant. What I'm seeing in Tessellation demos are fractal wireframes. They just get less complex as you move away, more complex as you zoom in.
Am I making sense? Could an Uber-Tech clarify please?
checomrie 1 year ago
@checomrie Seems the same to me.
Isakuma 1 year ago
@xixXJoshXxix With Ubisoft pc gamers are the unluckiest gamers you may ever meet ... believe me
abdo1597413 1 year ago
@abdo1597413
very true. Ubi is developing for the consoles (mainly xbox) and then porting those games to a pc and PS3 version. This worked when the 360 was still new but PC's can be upgraded very easily, consoles can't. Which means that modern pc's don't have to work that hard and the gfx stink compared to PC based games. I've got an XFX 5850 and I'd like to use it.. come on ubi -.-
EliteGhost001 1 year ago
Even the best cards on the market average 40-70 FPS. DX11 takes a big performance hit on this game. Especially when you have the light on with alot of enemies around.
Chronolyse 1 year ago
@Chronolyse My 5870 with DX11 @ 1920x1200 on AVP with all setting maxed never dropped below 60....I think your underestimating how powerful these new cards are.
ShityThePirate 1 year ago
@ShityThePirate from what I seen from benchmarks nvidia does alot better with dx 11
psp785 1 year ago
@psp785 Did I say the Radeon was better? No? I'm just not a fan of a gpu that reaches 100c and burns 250w when only being "slightly" better than one that uses half that and doesn't go above 60c.
ShityThePirate 1 year ago
great game! could be better but it's awesome to play as a predator or alien.
ZorgDK 1 year ago
AvP was an awesome demonstration of DX11. Love it for that. Pity the game lasted a few short hours in single player mode and totally sucks for multiplayer compared to TF2. BC2. The game is one great tech demo, but thats about it. You cant even use cover, duck etc as a marine. A step backwards in terms of gameplay for me. But I liked it for the single player atmosphere. Just feel ripped off by the lack of content.
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mosswaves 1 year ago
@elfholm: lucky son of a bitch
PackandSmack 1 year ago 3
I have 5770 and c2d 5400@3.6ghz 4gb ram on win7 64 and run this game full dx11 everything maxed and 4x software aa. I get 40-60 fps after the 1.1 steam update and ati 10.3 pre release ccc. Awesome fun! Great gfx card!
elfholm 1 year ago
@peaceful cheeta what are you talking about "Fixed that for you" i got everything right. I know there was a hack to get DX10 working with XP but i hace been talking only about official support.
geoboy333 1 year ago
in nvidia gt240
1280x1025
full graphics
lag??
EberReaper 1 year ago
yes
biplav91 1 year ago
um no vista is only dx10.
shelledfade 1 year ago
No, Vista & W7 have Dx11
XP has DX9 only
vviiper 1 year ago 2
your not wrong. I was unaware that the update had already been released. Then now it goes
Win7+HD5***=DX11
Vista+HD5***=DX11
XP+HD5***=DX9
It doesn't matter if you've got a DX11 card in XP it still will only run in DX9 mode. The code path is too complex for XP to handle.
geoboy333 1 year ago 5
*Microsoft wants you to buy the latest windows so they don't update DirectX for XP
Fixed that for you. Remember DX10? XP COuld run that just fine :)
PeacefullCheeta 1 year ago
I wouldn't say its to complex for XP. I just imagine Microsoft are trying to push for upgrades. Fair enough really.
parkinsonliam 1 year ago
they just want money
crasite 1 year ago
@crasite Well they are in the business of making money, so I can't really blame them :P Plus they need to get people off XP so they can drop support for it and start to push even further forward.
parkinsonliam 1 year ago
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:countdown
Hardgaymachineguns 1 year ago 2
You guys can run dx 11 if you got a dx10 driver, it'll act as a dx 10 instead of using dx 9. Works for me and i finally found a new supported file to play avp SLi, it's supported now at evga site. Great a graphics especially shadows and evironment but the only bad part is the lighting, it's so bad. The HDR and the glow. It's overdone and wrong.
utubienut 1 year ago
so there is only dx9 and dx11 modes supported in the game but if I have a dx10 card I can force the game to run in dx10?? can i make the game think i have a dx11 card so it looks really good?
Dfrogman 1 year ago
@Dfrogman you cannot force a card to run in a mode that has features it cannot handle. thats like putting dishes in a washing machine. DX10 and DX11 are completely different tins of paint and cannot be tricked into thinking one is the other.
geoboy333 1 year ago
So will the game run in dx9 like the demo? in my opinion the graphics in the demo are quite poor for the year 2010
Dfrogman 1 year ago
@Dfrogman it will only run in what your card and OS are capable of. if your running windows 7 and have an ATI 5***card then yes, it will run in DX11. if you are running vista or xp, it does not matter if you have a DX11 card you still will not be able to play in DX11 because only windows seven supports this.
so just to clarify
windows 7+HD5***=AVP DX11
Vista/XP=AVP DX9
geoboy333 1 year ago
MS said DirectX 11 will work o Vista and Windows 7, NOT ONLY windows 7 - i'm not sure how it looks like now cuz i've win7 but i think too many people have vista for microsoft to poop on them.
Arkanen 1 year ago
@Arkanen they actually said that an update would be released for vista in 2011 so at the moment it is still only Windows 7 that is DX11 capable
geoboy333 1 year ago
actually vista released and update last year that allows it to run dx11.
warmenFAITH 1 year ago
DX9 looks fine with this game. And i dont see anything difference with DX11 or DX10
BaggysAnime 1 year ago
Its like wine tasting, some people notice the differences while others dont.
It shouldn't affect gameplay anyways.
razattack1337 1 year ago 2
That's a great analogy ;|
Cliffe4567 1 year ago
@razattack1337 ya people with dx11 cards notice the difference :') rofl
CRutgerXryzis 1 year ago
Dirt 2 looks good but most racing games do, Battle Forge has too much of a cartoony art style to show off DX11 & STALKER was a big disappointment. I can't see how AVP won't look even better in DX11 after all these tessellation videos.
DragonAge1103 1 year ago
I'm getting sick of ppl complaining about graphics like little children. Glad some ppl here appreciate how far we've come. I mean even the DX9 demo for AVP looks great. There is so much detail all pulled together by an awesome lighting system. I think all 3 character models hold a lot of awesome detail with a perfect art style to match but I must admit all the DX11 games seen so far are not very impressive for what they boast about DX11.
DragonAge1103 1 year ago
dude you so right, if you look back 10 years ago about how far we have come in 2010 and you actually think about it, its mind blowing, in the year 2000 halo wouldnt even be high tech for like 3 more years, and we all know how far we come since halo 1. its simply amazing, i remember playing the original command and conquer 15 years ago and that was high tech.
Leignheart 1 year ago
I agree:-) Look at 1st Alien vs predator from 1999 or AvP2 from 2001. Huge jump after 7 years. I wonder how the games will looks like in 2017:-)
johnrehak 1 year ago
well you can see where crysis is going. photo realism THAT IS MATE and that's the future of gaming. Anyhow my HD3870X2 handles this game very well at 1080p the only problem is my system ram which is ocz 4gbs but with the 32bit limitation my system crashes. Gonna install 64bit windows 7 i guess.
Radeon3870X2 1 year ago
I can't help but notice you said 1080p, when referring to a computer >.>
Also having 4gb on 32 bit wouldn't crash your computer. It just doesn't.
Kingzogre 1 year ago
1080p i meant 1920x1080 very high settings. My system just freezes. I dunno why.While playing crysis at high settings it does not happen.
Radeon3870X2 1 year ago
just ignore the tard, some people don't get that 1080p is just a faster way of saying 1920x1080 and a vast amount of monitors these days use it.
AvP runs great on my 5770 except for a couple of glitches here and there where the game will stutter when i'm not even doing anything lol.
hildegain 1 year ago 2
yeah stuttering happens to me also but when i switch characters like after completing a mission for the next mission i choose predator the game does stutter for quite a while and runs smooth. Odd
Radeon3870X2 1 year ago
when is this game releasing?
Can I run this max with a core 2 duo @ 2.6ghz, 2gb ram, and a HD5770?
4ourTimber 2 years ago
I would knock up the RAM but that would be easy i asume
vallyshooter 1 year ago
nice soundtrack lol, but I love the whole idea of the game. Cant wait for it to come out
s9729126c 2 years ago
i got 280gtx@700mhz tri sli...i will smoke this game.
Slyslus25 2 years ago
LOL but you won't be able to play it in DX11 so you are still missing out. HAHAAHAHAHa
ItalianSausage01 2 years ago 2
but no DX11 or even 10.1 for u
sry dude
IheartPCgaming 2 years ago 2
smoke won't begin to describe it lol
weeschwee 1 year ago
you wont even be able to run dx11 api lol :p
Vleesball 1 year ago
My HD5850 can't wait for this great game - PC fuck the world!!
AvataroftheDarkness 2 years ago
@AvataroftheDarkness
My 5850 can neither :)
MouthofSaurons 2 years ago
@AvataroftheDarkness u ment For The Win? o_O
ernis1100 1 year ago
I think PC gaming is percived to be over-priced.
However, when you think about it, most people have a pc anyway, so you can discount that cost from the final build.
If you just put £500 worth of parts in a pc instead of £300 whhen you build it, you'd get a much improved gaming experience over a £300 pc and an xbox
TheCrystalDuck 2 years ago 18
Besides that, PC games usually sell (@ Release) for about €45, Console games around €60
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picachuziom 2 years ago
@picachuziom
Untill you get the fine..
D4NG3R03S 2 years ago
U right , but still FACT IS FACT U CAN DOWNLOAD FOR FREE , u r able to do it , thats what I mean :-)
picachuziom 2 years ago
Wrong
themaniacboy 2 years ago
@D4NG3R03S Although console games can be re-selled. Just pointing it out. =)
RogueEnthusiasm 2 years ago
@TheCrystalDuck u pay for what u get
alltimegamer247 1 year ago
@TheCrystalDuck Yeah but if you're like me and want to upgrade, but everything in your pc was made in 2003 you have to buy everything new if you want the shit to fit.
Isakuma 1 year ago
@TheCrystalDuck agreed , its realy just a matter of folks doing their homework and learning how to build their own rig so they know what their buying, installing and how to save on parts as they upgrade over time. i built a rig for around $300 the 1st time around and have played most "next gen" console games with maxed settings flawlessly in most cases after taking the time to research how to build a gaming pc from scratch, realy not that involving tbh
TheHagz8 1 year ago
i hope this song is part of the soundtrack
Turbokaratelaserpuma 2 years ago 6
it's not expensive to get the kit together for a decent mid range pc though. with a hd5770 (dx11 card) you'll be set back about £300-£350 with a quad core if you built it yourself. So only £50-£100 more than a ps3 with much (much much) cheaper games too!
Bobzilla183 2 years ago
and better graphics and a lot of others good stuf
MetatroN197924 2 years ago
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Not neccessary true. Consoles does only have 1 type of hardware, while on PC you have litteraly hundreds of different hardware types. In short: on a console, the game developer can optimize the performanze to perfection, while on PC they can't optimize as much because of all the differenet hardware.
JoinX3000 2 years ago
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@JoinX3000 true. and if you want a pc that can handle newer games, well... that would be pretty expensive :(
theeboy72 2 years ago
not realy. build it yourself. you can save almost 50%
nendo 2 years ago 2
@nendo yeah I know. I did that. And it should be here exactly one week from now and it wasn't very expensive either (500 €) But I what I really meant is the High End pc's
theeboy72 2 years ago
@theeboy72 what do you mean should be here. you make it sound like you bought it from dell or somewhere where there assembled it for you. that not building your own pc as your paying someon else to do it. buy parts yourself and make it yourself. you save even more money
nendo 2 years ago
@theeboy72 PC's are fairly cheap know days. Well it seems that way now compared to lets say 2005. 700$ Can get you a pretty descent machine.
MegaHolymoly 2 years ago 4
@JoinX3000 yeah thats kind of a huge myth Pc gaming is like looking for new car parts i have 2 rigs already set up to go for Dx11 games they both cost around 543$ per tower its all about looking for the parts and the right price
Mrbob200 2 years ago
Well.. an Xbox 360 would cost you about €150.
Speaking of car parts, let's make an comparison. If we say that the consoles/pc are the engine and graphics are the horsepower/torque. Which one do you think will run best, the engine that's been optimized and fine tuned for just one thing; power. Or the one that's been built together with some random parts?
I'm not saying it's like that in the real world, but it COULD BE, but most game developers are probably too lazy to optimize the game.
JoinX3000 2 years ago
The predator has a fuckload of polygons on his head, it looks almost solid in that 3D rendering part.
Redek70 2 years ago
Oooooh, tessellation? I've been waiting for ages for that to kick in.
Kazuma0Conor 2 years ago
@Kazuma0Conor
i know right.well the ones that were holding back tech was nvidia persuading microsoft that tessellation was a useless feature for gaming so they didn't put it in dx10 like they were suppose to,but now we finally have it ^^ Dirt 2 car models and driver models looks amazing with
tessellation .
DIRENGREY097 2 years ago
predator use CLOACK ENGAGED like crysis !! hahahaha tha's gonna be FUCKING AMAZING !!!
zatlasba 2 years ago
@zatlasba
yea,but the predator had cloak way before crysis was even a thought :P
DIRENGREY097 2 years ago
Certainly looks like a must buy! Along with a HD5850, 5870 or 5970 :D
nakedhand 2 years ago
i have been waiting for this game for.... ages.. hope my PC can handle it ( i am saving for upgrade in case it doesnt ) if it is better than the originals, which it looks like it will be, it will probaly one of the best games of all time!
Rowman123123 2 years ago 3
Looks like ATI/AMD is paying Rebellion to have "The future is fusion" ad in games similar to what Nvidia did with "the way it's meant to be played". This is definitely the game that will make me upgrade to a dx 11 card.
plm3d 2 years ago
FUCKING EPIC AS FUCK
Rp707 2 years ago
must buy.
dardraa 2 years ago
0:38 i hope they have a threater system like in Halo 3, making screenshots, machinima, clips, reviews, and shots like that will be a lot easier and AWSOME
Darklarik 2 years ago
That would be awesome playing as an alien and trying to copy the movies and seeing how well you did. THAT WOULD BE GREAT!
Baxtab13 2 years ago
Those characters are seriously starting to look like the CGI in the movie imagine where we are going to be in about ten years when you look back at the last ten in the gaming industry. :]
rapido3011 2 years ago 3
Oh sh*t!
LinkinLTU 2 years ago