@falloutforever88 importing foriegn weapons also creates jobs now...someone needs to make them 922r compliant...the local gunshop makes a profit on them as well. There is a whole US market now making US 922r compliant parts (trigger groups, funiture, mags, etc) I don't think it's such a strain on the economy you think it is.
Chinese quality varies substantially. I have seen some great ones and some very poor ones. Id rather not play craps when dealing with firearms. Id also rather have the original instead of a copy.
@Allante715 When it comes to their firearms, I don't think their quality varies anymore then other countries. Out of 10+Chinese guns I've owned, there was only one I wasn't crazy about. I'm hardly playing craps by buying Chinese firearms. If they were so bad then I wouldn't have so many of them, and many of them were expensive too.
Why even get a Chinese firearm? Why not just get the originals. Ill take a Russian sks over a Norinco any day of the week. Chinese can do nothing more than copy. No soul, No passion, No history. Yuck!
@Allante715 I've got 2 Russian Tula SKS and I love them. The Russian SKS's are better, but the Chinese ones are not poorly made at all, I like them too.
Then I also had a friend who had one of those Chinese Norinco SKS rifles with the detachable magazine & AK receiver. Think it was called the SKS-D or something like that. Jammed like hell, full of machine marks.
I used to have a Norinco M1911A1 that was one of the most accurate out of the box GI-spec 1911s I ever owned. $300 I paid for it. Same exact specs as the Colt M1911A1.
it's not the quality i have an issue with, i'd rather keep the money here when i buy anything, everyone wonders why the unemployment rate is high when almost all retail products aren't even made in this country outsourcing really fucked us
@Michael117american You don't think I could afford other firearms? I have British,American,Czech,Russian,German, etc. Just look at what I have. If Chinese guns were so bad, then I wouldn't have so many of them. Look at my videos and you'll know they function fine.
@Michael117american Not true, I would be the first to tell you if I didnt like something. My Mak-90 Is awesome aside from the thumbhole stock, which is just a preference thing, It has no effect on the reliability or quality of the build. Besides, my friends who DONT own once and have fired mine have also liked the quality and have put it on equal if not higher grounds than other ak types they own or have fired.
The Chinese firearms are so good cause they are made to the same spec and in the same factories as their military armories. Nothing says "quality" like defending your country
@randomfatblob dont know, dont care. that guy was a bitch, all he did was bad mouth people who had videos he didn't approve of, if he came across a comment he didn't like he would keep posting comments until it went to page 2 of comments. He followed my shit religiously until I posted a video he didn't like then he got all butthurt and started acting worse than a child. He was just a smug asshole who was full of himself na na na na HEY HEY HEY GOOD BYE!
I always heard the chinese guns were shit... i bought a Norinco 1911 clone and its a dream. Spits out any ammo with 0 problems. 1000 rounds thru and no failures
@ThePechanator2 I was going to last time, but the weather got ugly and I only got to shoot the CZ. I'll probably get a vid of the MAK-90 this weekend.
@esh325 A whole division of 6.8 fanboys have descended upon my 6.8 videos in the last few days and I'm fighting a war on three fronts. My favorite is the guy saying that all mil grade ammo is shit and you can't hunt with surplus 308. Then the other winner was the guy saying 308 rifles are all 14 lbs. When I said that my Savage 111 is 7 pounds he countered with, well 308 ammo is too heavy. How many rounds are this dicks taking, are these deer and hogs fucking armed? It's quite hilarious.
@the308capital I guess some state laws dictate whether or not you can use FMJ's for hunting. A .308 FMJ could defenetly bring a deer down though. The 6.8 is just a gimmick cartridge.
@esh325 It isn't FMJ or not, the guy was saying that the accuracy of all surplus ammo is shit. In reality, he's just butt hurt because he can't afford to plink with his 6.8 because the ammo is 3-4x that of 556. I see no point to buying an AR just to shoot a few expensive precision grade rounds at a few hogs at 100 yds. A good AR setup will accept cheaper ammo to be able to have fun with. 308 and 556 both offer plinking alterntives whereas the 6.8 you're stuck with high end expensive shit.
"Chinese is an English word to describe a foreign people."
They don't speak English in China as a national or original language. As such, English is a foreign language to Chinese and Chinese people are considered a "foreign people" to English.
As such, my original statement is correct and does not need to be changed.
As for your lisp, sorry I just noticed that after watching some of your other videos.
@illogicalmethod That's true, but the official definition of Chinese has no mention of that they are a foreign people. What is and isn't foreign depends on the person. In fact, it's unnecessary that you wrote foreign because it's already assumed that they are to us.
@esh325 What's foreign and what isn't does indeed, depend on the person. As far as necessary versus unnecessary. In the whole, it is entirely unnecessary for me to write you at all, in the immediate, I felt it necessary in order to clarify my point. A point I made BEFORE I realized you had a lisp and that your pronunciation was not intentionally wrong.
As far as assuming, I could of been writing as a Chinese who spoke English(I'm not, just making another point).
A lot of Chinese stuff is great and well worth the money unfortunately I cannot own working firearms these days but I would not be put off buying a Chinese auto pistol or rifle. I may be cautious if it was a revolver like a 44 mag though.
srry but im defientily going to disagree with you, chineese has almost no original guns, you know where they guet them? from japanese and german wwii surplus weaponry, modify them, like the mak 90, kalashnikov is russian and he made the stg(mp44) in wwii, then the ak47, wich was .30 caliber, and now the ak74, the chinese, alnog with the middle east and vietnam, adopted these ak47s and either kept them or modified them. thats exactly what china does
@BruteForceAirsoft123 I know the Chinese have had very few original designs, but their firearms copies are usually quite good. Post WW2, the Chinese manufactured firearms that were copies of Soviet design rather then Japanese or German.
Your talking about low pressure chamberings. Chinese M-1a (M-14) chambered for the high pressure 7.62 Nato/.308 had numerous problems with receivers stretching and being chambered incorrectly.
Yes, I've replaced a whole bunch of parts for AR-15s that were made in china that were not made to spec and were breaking. One was a barrel that was ready to burst and it was marked 5.56 Nato.
@Whitehorze The extra chamber pressure is of no consquence in their manufacturing abilities. They make a dragunov clone in 7.62x54R and .308. There are also M44 mosin nagant Chinese copies which work fine. which works perfectly fine. True, the M1A had issues. The ones the Canadians are getting now work fine from what I read. They probably weren't even Chinese parts.
My Norinco AK-47 is of high quality. The only Chinese weapon I didn't like was the Chinese M14. It was metric. I'd say the Chinese AK's are only bested by the Yugoslavian AK or the Valmet.
@ammosmith I believe the biggest difference between the Chinese AK and Yugo AK is that the Yugo has a reinforced trunnion and a heavier barrel I think. Both have 1.5mm receivers. I've heard Finnish AK's are really the best of the best when it comes to AK's, even better then the Russians. It's a shame we can't get them anymore. The Finnish army actually bought some type 56's for their army reserves I heard.
@esh325 I had a Valmet M78 for a long time. The Israeli Armi used Valmet receivers for their Galil rifles. All milled. My Chicom AK has easily 10,000 rounds through it...I've had it for 23 years. Look at my up;oads and you'll see me shooting it. I put East German furniture on it.
@ammosmith i just bought a new polytech m14 made in 2009 and wow im pleased .. its interchangeable with all USGI parts ... but i did hear the chinese m14s that were imported to the US before the ban years ago had problems like soft bolts from improper heat treating ect ... but the 2007 norinco and 2009 polytech batches are very nice no issues very accurate and a steal at $375... i bought 2
Norinco was the same company who made them for the military so if they make crap firearms they would have been put to death. Dang, can you make a video with your MAK 90 with the bayonet?
@semiautoriflelover Very true. I'll make a video with everything about the MAK-90 when I get some range time. Haven't been able to shoot in 2 or 3 months :( Hopefully this weekend I can.
@semiautoriflelover Very true. I'll make a video with everything about the MAK-90 when I get some range time. Haven't been able to shoot in 2 or 3 months :( Hopefully this weekend I can.
@semiautoriflelover I've heard upstate NY can get really nasty winters. It's usually around the 20's or 30's here in PA, but I'm not just no good in the cold. Hands freeze up and I can't shoot then.
@esh325 Hey, guess what? I have a PA pistol permit and go back and forth with my sidearms. In the summer if you are going to a big gun show let me know because I will drive down, the NY gun shows are overpriced of course. The wind chill was the bad part it was -10
@semiautoriflelover Oh, you use to live in PA? I guess that explains why I see a lot of NJ and NY license plates at gunshows here, lol. I'll let you know. We have some pretty decent gunshows here.
@esh325 Lucky bugger. Thats a fine collection of guns you've got. How many do you own all together?
I'm a kalashnikov man myself. Being right handed, though, I dislike the position of the charging handle. I've heard dublin AK systems may have a solution to that.
Also, would you say the sight radius on the AK is shorter than on an M-16, or other military rifles in general?
@semiautoriflelover As for the bayonet, it was one of the special screw clamp on spike bayonets that the Chinese made. They are not cheap and hard to find unfortunatelly.
CHINA INVENTED THE GUN. THE END
dabbchang 1 week ago
@dabbchang actually... haha
xjustinninjax 1 week ago
@falloutforever88 importing foriegn weapons also creates jobs now...someone needs to make them 922r compliant...the local gunshop makes a profit on them as well. There is a whole US market now making US 922r compliant parts (trigger groups, funiture, mags, etc) I don't think it's such a strain on the economy you think it is.
elox02 1 week ago
Chinese quality varies substantially. I have seen some great ones and some very poor ones. Id rather not play craps when dealing with firearms. Id also rather have the original instead of a copy.
Allante715 1 week ago
@Allante715 When it comes to their firearms, I don't think their quality varies anymore then other countries. Out of 10+Chinese guns I've owned, there was only one I wasn't crazy about. I'm hardly playing craps by buying Chinese firearms. If they were so bad then I wouldn't have so many of them, and many of them were expensive too.
esh325 1 week ago
@esh325
Why even get a Chinese firearm? Why not just get the originals. Ill take a Russian sks over a Norinco any day of the week. Chinese can do nothing more than copy. No soul, No passion, No history. Yuck!
Allante715 1 week ago
@Allante715 I've got 2 Russian Tula SKS and I love them. The Russian SKS's are better, but the Chinese ones are not poorly made at all, I like them too.
esh325 1 week ago
@esh325
Just my opinion mate. I just stay away from ComChina firearms. They just don`t tickle my elmo. Buy once, Cry once
Allante715 1 week ago
i hate you say kinese not chinese!
deadbird58 2 weeks ago
@deadbird58 Good.
esh325 2 weeks ago
Then I also had a friend who had one of those Chinese Norinco SKS rifles with the detachable magazine & AK receiver. Think it was called the SKS-D or something like that. Jammed like hell, full of machine marks.
lethalweapon129 2 months ago
@lethalweapon129 The SKS-D was modified in America to take AK magazines I believe.
esh325 2 months ago
I used to have a Norinco M1911A1 that was one of the most accurate out of the box GI-spec 1911s I ever owned. $300 I paid for it. Same exact specs as the Colt M1911A1.
lethalweapon129 2 months ago
it's not the quality i have an issue with, i'd rather keep the money here when i buy anything, everyone wonders why the unemployment rate is high when almost all retail products aren't even made in this country outsourcing really fucked us
falloutforever88 3 months ago
The only people who would say they were high quality is the people who own them
Michael117american 5 months ago
@Michael117american You don't think I could afford other firearms? I have British,American,Czech,Russian,German, etc. Just look at what I have. If Chinese guns were so bad, then I wouldn't have so many of them. Look at my videos and you'll know they function fine.
esh325 5 months ago
@Michael117american Not true, I would be the first to tell you if I didnt like something. My Mak-90 Is awesome aside from the thumbhole stock, which is just a preference thing, It has no effect on the reliability or quality of the build. Besides, my friends who DONT own once and have fired mine have also liked the quality and have put it on equal if not higher grounds than other ak types they own or have fired.
MadFuzzball 1 month ago
I think I would rather use a rock than a chinese firearm.
Michael117american 5 months ago
@YenkoSuperChevy For some reason, they don't really make the best M14's.
esh325 5 months ago
China motherfuckers! Prepare for war you Westeners!
ernesdee2o916 6 months ago
@ernesdee2o916 I would prefer to not have any wars.
esh325 6 months ago
The Chinese firearms are so good cause they are made to the same spec and in the same factories as their military armories. Nothing says "quality" like defending your country
xiuxiu1313 8 months ago
@xiuxiu1313 That's probably true. They spend a good deal of money on defense.
esh325 8 months ago
what happened to semiautoriflelover's channel?
randomfatblob 9 months ago
@randomfatblob No idea. I just noticed it now that you said about it. I hope he'll come back.
esh325 9 months ago
@randomfatblob dont know, dont care. that guy was a bitch, all he did was bad mouth people who had videos he didn't approve of, if he came across a comment he didn't like he would keep posting comments until it went to page 2 of comments. He followed my shit religiously until I posted a video he didn't like then he got all butthurt and started acting worse than a child. He was just a smug asshole who was full of himself na na na na HEY HEY HEY GOOD BYE!
btw nice Mak 90's esh
ZunnyONe 9 months ago
I always heard the chinese guns were shit... i bought a Norinco 1911 clone and its a dream. Spits out any ammo with 0 problems. 1000 rounds thru and no failures
HISSOM08 9 months ago
I want to see a shooting video with that first Mak90
ThePechanator2 10 months ago
@ThePechanator2 I was going to last time, but the weather got ugly and I only got to shoot the CZ. I'll probably get a vid of the MAK-90 this weekend.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325 Excellent! She's a looker. I ordered a Mosin Nagant M44 from Aim Surplus today. Can't wait for that to come in.
ThePechanator2 10 months ago
@ThePechanator2 Thanks. I don't have a M44, but I imagine it kicks like a mule just like my Jungle carbine does with full powered loads.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325 I've fired an M38 and it's not too bad. But it's definitely no AR-15
ThePechanator2 10 months ago
I don't know, Chinese rifles aren't chambered in 6.8spc, they must therefore be all junk. :) In reality they do make one of the best AKs.
the308capital 10 months ago
@the308capital lol.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325 A whole division of 6.8 fanboys have descended upon my 6.8 videos in the last few days and I'm fighting a war on three fronts. My favorite is the guy saying that all mil grade ammo is shit and you can't hunt with surplus 308. Then the other winner was the guy saying 308 rifles are all 14 lbs. When I said that my Savage 111 is 7 pounds he countered with, well 308 ammo is too heavy. How many rounds are this dicks taking, are these deer and hogs fucking armed? It's quite hilarious.
the308capital 10 months ago
@the308capital I guess some state laws dictate whether or not you can use FMJ's for hunting. A .308 FMJ could defenetly bring a deer down though. The 6.8 is just a gimmick cartridge.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325 It isn't FMJ or not, the guy was saying that the accuracy of all surplus ammo is shit. In reality, he's just butt hurt because he can't afford to plink with his 6.8 because the ammo is 3-4x that of 556. I see no point to buying an AR just to shoot a few expensive precision grade rounds at a few hogs at 100 yds. A good AR setup will accept cheaper ammo to be able to have fun with. 308 and 556 both offer plinking alterntives whereas the 6.8 you're stuck with high end expensive shit.
the308capital 10 months ago
Have to say, this is the first time I've heard someone say "Chinese" as "kainese".
Chinese is an English word to describe a foreign people, as such, English language rules apply. The "ch" pronounced like the ch from the word "chop".
Sigh..
With that, I have no problem with Chinese.
illogicalmethod 10 months ago
@illogicalmethod Chinese is an English word describing people who come from China, not foreigners. I know how to say Chinese, I just have a lisp.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325
"Chinese is an English word to describe a foreign people."
They don't speak English in China as a national or original language. As such, English is a foreign language to Chinese and Chinese people are considered a "foreign people" to English.
As such, my original statement is correct and does not need to be changed.
As for your lisp, sorry I just noticed that after watching some of your other videos.
illogicalmethod 10 months ago
@illogicalmethod That's true, but the official definition of Chinese has no mention of that they are a foreign people. What is and isn't foreign depends on the person. In fact, it's unnecessary that you wrote foreign because it's already assumed that they are to us.
esh325 10 months ago
@esh325 What's foreign and what isn't does indeed, depend on the person. As far as necessary versus unnecessary. In the whole, it is entirely unnecessary for me to write you at all, in the immediate, I felt it necessary in order to clarify my point. A point I made BEFORE I realized you had a lisp and that your pronunciation was not intentionally wrong.
As far as assuming, I could of been writing as a Chinese who spoke English(I'm not, just making another point).
illogicalmethod 10 months ago
@esh325
With all that, I apologize for correcting you. Did you have a chance to read my response on Limalife's video?
illogicalmethod 10 months ago
@esh325 The one where you made the statement regarding obtaining a license to carry fire-arms permit in PA..
illogicalmethod 10 months ago
A lot of Chinese stuff is great and well worth the money unfortunately I cannot own working firearms these days but I would not be put off buying a Chinese auto pistol or rifle. I may be cautious if it was a revolver like a 44 mag though.
0ddba1l 10 months ago
Awesome video. Yep, they know how to make guns, and thye know how to teach 10 year old girls how to make them too, no punt meant.
rheinmetall30mm 10 months ago
Those will come in handy during the zombie apocalypse.
JoshBoschke 11 months ago
@JoshBoschke haha yeah
esh325 11 months ago
my chinese sks is just fine, i just dont use brass case ammo
thepolarpandabear 11 months ago
@thepolarpandabear The SKS is suppose to use brass cased ammo just fine.
esh325 11 months ago
srry but im defientily going to disagree with you, chineese has almost no original guns, you know where they guet them? from japanese and german wwii surplus weaponry, modify them, like the mak 90, kalashnikov is russian and he made the stg(mp44) in wwii, then the ak47, wich was .30 caliber, and now the ak74, the chinese, alnog with the middle east and vietnam, adopted these ak47s and either kept them or modified them. thats exactly what china does
BruteForceAirsoft123 11 months ago
@BruteForceAirsoft123 I know the Chinese have had very few original designs, but their firearms copies are usually quite good. Post WW2, the Chinese manufactured firearms that were copies of Soviet design rather then Japanese or German.
esh325 11 months ago
@BruteForceAirsoft123 he isn't saying that.
rheinmetall30mm 10 months ago
What's with pronunciation bro? "Kainese" firearms and "Kainese" SKS..?
adobo777 11 months ago
@adobo777 Lisp.
esh325 11 months ago
Good to know, They're good at making things that kill! I mean that half jokingly. Good video, thanks.
tempss 1 year ago
They make crappy consumer goods (but getting better) and scarry processed foods.
But their military firearms are very very reliable and what more could u want in a gun??? Reliability is #1.
pccchurch 1 year ago
@pccchurch Yes, it's quite strange they make everything else crap, but make good firearms.
esh325 1 year ago
agreed. people take the stamp on the gun way to far.
CanFirearmsReview 1 year ago
Your talking about low pressure chamberings. Chinese M-1a (M-14) chambered for the high pressure 7.62 Nato/.308 had numerous problems with receivers stretching and being chambered incorrectly.
Yes, I've replaced a whole bunch of parts for AR-15s that were made in china that were not made to spec and were breaking. One was a barrel that was ready to burst and it was marked 5.56 Nato.
Whitehorze 1 year ago
@Whitehorze The extra chamber pressure is of no consquence in their manufacturing abilities. They make a dragunov clone in 7.62x54R and .308. There are also M44 mosin nagant Chinese copies which work fine. which works perfectly fine. True, the M1A had issues. The ones the Canadians are getting now work fine from what I read. They probably weren't even Chinese parts.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 The quality is because they're using modern machine centers that Clinton allowed to be exported back during the 90's.
Btw, If you want a nice stock set for that Mak, check out Arsenal/Kvar. They have a good selection that can be easily replaced and are russian spec.
Whitehorze 1 year ago
@Whitehorze Thanks, I was gonna keep one stock though.
esh325 1 year ago
I would give my left testicle for a NIB pre-ban Norinco Type 56.
ThePechanator2 1 year ago
Outstanding video
HiCapacity 1 year ago
Good points
crocop5247 1 year ago
KIYA-Neese?
THEABC123DUMBIE 1 year ago
@THEABC123DUMBIE No. My lisp makes it sound funny.
esh325 1 year ago
Whatever's not made in China is fake! lol
Angyal269 1 year ago
AYE ESH! havnt talked 2 u alot bro! nice video!
xXSK83RXx 1 year ago
@xXSK83RXx thanks man.
esh325 1 year ago
My Norinco AK-47 is of high quality. The only Chinese weapon I didn't like was the Chinese M14. It was metric. I'd say the Chinese AK's are only bested by the Yugoslavian AK or the Valmet.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@ammosmith I believe the biggest difference between the Chinese AK and Yugo AK is that the Yugo has a reinforced trunnion and a heavier barrel I think. Both have 1.5mm receivers. I've heard Finnish AK's are really the best of the best when it comes to AK's, even better then the Russians. It's a shame we can't get them anymore. The Finnish army actually bought some type 56's for their army reserves I heard.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 I had a Valmet M78 for a long time. The Israeli Armi used Valmet receivers for their Galil rifles. All milled. My Chicom AK has easily 10,000 rounds through it...I've had it for 23 years. Look at my up;oads and you'll see me shooting it. I put East German furniture on it.
ammosmith 1 year ago
@ammosmith i just bought a new polytech m14 made in 2009 and wow im pleased .. its interchangeable with all USGI parts ... but i did hear the chinese m14s that were imported to the US before the ban years ago had problems like soft bolts from improper heat treating ect ... but the 2007 norinco and 2009 polytech batches are very nice no issues very accurate and a steal at $375... i bought 2
MrLongbranch303 1 year ago
Norinco was the same company who made them for the military so if they make crap firearms they would have been put to death. Dang, can you make a video with your MAK 90 with the bayonet?
semiautoriflelover 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover Very true. I'll make a video with everything about the MAK-90 when I get some range time. Haven't been able to shoot in 2 or 3 months :( Hopefully this weekend I can.
esh325 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover Very true. I'll make a video with everything about the MAK-90 when I get some range time. Haven't been able to shoot in 2 or 3 months :( Hopefully this weekend I can.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 I shot today and it was 5 degrees outside, I froze my nuts off. lol.
semiautoriflelover 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover I've heard upstate NY can get really nasty winters. It's usually around the 20's or 30's here in PA, but I'm not just no good in the cold. Hands freeze up and I can't shoot then.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 Hey, guess what? I have a PA pistol permit and go back and forth with my sidearms. In the summer if you are going to a big gun show let me know because I will drive down, the NY gun shows are overpriced of course. The wind chill was the bad part it was -10
semiautoriflelover 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover Oh, you use to live in PA? I guess that explains why I see a lot of NJ and NY license plates at gunshows here, lol. I'll let you know. We have some pretty decent gunshows here.
esh325 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover The great thing about PA is that there is no waiting period for a pistol. Most states have a waiting period I believe.
esh325 1 year ago
@esh325 Lucky bugger. Thats a fine collection of guns you've got. How many do you own all together?
I'm a kalashnikov man myself. Being right handed, though, I dislike the position of the charging handle. I've heard dublin AK systems may have a solution to that.
Also, would you say the sight radius on the AK is shorter than on an M-16, or other military rifles in general?
TheJamesrocket 1 year ago
@TheJamesrocket Let's say, too many. The sight radius is shorter I'd say.
esh325 1 year ago
@semiautoriflelover As for the bayonet, it was one of the special screw clamp on spike bayonets that the Chinese made. They are not cheap and hard to find unfortunatelly.
esh325 1 year ago
Could not agree with you more. Thanks for the video
jetfuel545 1 year ago