Very good video. Van Romero makes an excellent point about the duration of the fire being the critical factor here. If the steel had actually been exposed to thermite/super-thermite/thermate, there is a high probability that the steel would have cooled off quicker after exposure. This video once again proves how unreliable thermite actually is.
All that he was showing was that if you paint it on rather than puring on hot iron it has better effect. Nano thermite would have explosive reaction because of nano size particle and organic materials that makes fast expanding gas. Then most of heat energy is blown in steel that has been weakened by sulfur. That of course happens in fast explosive reaction.
While amount of chemical energy isn't huge, it is efficiently used rather than wasted in slow burning reaction where most of heat is lost.
@lptl081 Beyond all the name-calling (etc...) can ANYONE address the issue
that is WHY are so many of the events of 9/11/2001 STRANGE, that is the 2.25 sec of free fall acceleration that WTC7 experienced. and the fact that "FLT175" is seen traveling as fast while penetrating a wall as it flies through AIR.... whats up with that?
@DeepSpace8andahalf The freefall of WTC7 is NOT true and there is nothing that says what hit the Pentagon was traveling through walls as fast as through air. Post a link.
@lptl081 The NIST said that WTC7 descended for 2.25 sec at 9.8 m/s ^2
Please see - - - watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
also, it was FLT77 that allegedly hit the PENTAGON, "FLT175" hit the SOUTH TOWER, and the EVAN FAIRBANKS video clearly shows an act that defies the laws of physics.
@Stealth9500 Is that the one with Gage, Griffin, and Avery? I found it funny that every experiment went against their theories, and all they could do was make bullshit excuses.
@mikeusa93 would it be too much to ask for you theorists to start SHOWING me I'm wrong and backing it up with research and facts rather than just dismissing everything?
You're right,the government loves you,wants to protect your freedoms,rights,& liberties,it wants to give each & every civilian a leg up to excel & achieve their hopes & dreams,the mainstream media only tells you the truth & the important information,all other news sites are not legitimate.There is no conspiracy, shut up, pay your taxes,& go back to sleep America.Don't pay attention to the folks in power-they only serve your interests-look at how wonderful & free America is now.War=good(sarcasm)
@joachimRa... Dude...Please re read my post... my argument is prove to me how the so called damage was done.. i put forth for my experience which i clearly stae how steel works.. so with all due respect take it up with someone else.. I'm not going to debate something with anyone that I can care less on because i already have my opinion on what happened on 9/11... ty
@punxsutawneybarney "Goodbye Governor" "....bye" "Keep working hard... WE NEED YOU." All said from her porch casting a hopeful and follwoing look at him as he walks away...
@jayep What makes you think it was acting? Obviously she thought she needed the Gov. or she wouldn't have said it. And even if it was bad acting, slamming the family members is bad form.
@punxsutawneybarney how did I "slam the family" by pointing out that Ventura's show layed the cheese on heavy? Go ahead. Point it out. I'll point out that the scene in question looks entirely staged with the breathless farewell to the hero Ventura. Nobody panic... a fake Navy SEAL is on the case!
oo and one other thing.. when you show the clip of the guy hitting or should i say tapping the beam with the hammer.. that don't prove anything.. I can heat a piece of steel beam to 2100 degrees to where it is cherry red and white hot and tap it with a hammer and it will slightly dent it in about a 1/4 inch if that.. agian not proving any structual damage to the beam
on the beam that it would be holding up.. then you would see a the true failure of the beam or not.. So the whole thermite thing or not and jet fuel or not is all crap if they can't recontruct the true pliablity of the heated beam with a tensel load on it in PSI.. so when they can show that test I'll be convinced.. again I heat and bend structual steel for a living and a very long time at that .. i bent alot of steel.. i know how it reacts under alot of varied conditions.. hope this helps ty
At 800 deg f the steel becomes pliable at 1000 deg f it loses 60% of it's tensel strength and bents easy at 2100 degrees it melts.. now all the test shows the steel just being heated.. i can lay a piece down and heat it with a oxy -fuel torch and let it cool and some weakness occurs in that area.. now why i asked in the tests did they not put the related tensel strength on the beam after it was heated to see if it failed? Meaning after they heated the area put the related pounds
I've watched alot of these structual steel tests and 9/11 .. I'm not here to debate what happened on 9/11 I have my own opinions I care not to share.. but what pisses me off is the crap these so called experts fed everyone on the steel beams.. I am a 21yr certified welder. I bent, cut, heated and went to school for structrual steel and other welding materials here are the facts you can look up for yourselves.. Structrual building grade steel developes micro stress fractures at 400 degrees F
funny thing is..people laughed at steven jones when he first suggested that thermite could be mixed with paint..he was called a nut..an insane fool..but wait..romero shows it can be and its all ok..and for sake of argument..how much did they paint on..what was the mixture ratio..notice only a small part of 1 side of the beam was painted..what if all parts of the beam were painted with a more concentrated amount..would the results be the same?
@jayep - And the specs to make "military grade" thermite are...
A lesson in 7th grade chemistry. It's nothing exotic. Generally you want "ramp temperatures" along with the oxidation. Regular thermite is Aluminum-Oxide + Iron-Oxide + sufficient heat to start the reaction (oxygen to sustain the reaction is in the metal). Another common ingredient would be to add in Titanium-Oxide. Add Mercuric-Chrome if you want to prolong the reaction.
Wait... You think the US Government is covering up 9/11, and you are outraged, but a TRUTHER covers up results on a test that pretty much shuts the door on his argument and that's acceptable to you? Explain this logic to me.
"Well I guess you know that means" - Probably that this is going to be an incredibly biased video and probably not worth your time if you are actually concerned with finding out the truth about 9/11.
Please watch my latest video "Explosive Connections" and find out who had Demolition Access to the WTC Towers on 9/11, and who could have planted the explosives there.
@WarCrime911 No, this video was made to prove that Ventura is a fact hiding lying asstwit. If you watched it and I got any anything wrong, please... share with the group.
And your video... try to bring something more than just speculation, mmmkay?
I agree that Ventura's coverage of 9/11 was crap. But let's debate the thermite issue since pseudo-debunkers like yourself never seem to have their facts straight... YUP! Already found some!
01:58 - Author makes misleading claim. Thermite is not an explosive yes, but NANOthermite IS.
3:04 - Does fire and jet fuel burn long and hot enough to have structural failure? One would assume you'd have the logic to see thermite was hotter than fire... but apparently not.
@WarCrime911 HI, and thanks for addressing the video!
Since you claim that nano thermite is an explaosive, can you tell me the proxess of transformation that occurs to make regular thermite into nano thermite, and what is it that happens that changes the propertoes from incindiary to explosive?
at 3:04, Van Romero asks whether the painted on thermite burned hot enough and long enough to cause structural failure. He says nothing about jet fuel. Jesse avoided that question out right.
While I disagree with denial of evidence on a false-flag attack of 9/11, I do agree Jesse Ventura is an asshole and should stop pretending to be a scientist.
1 - This video was to show that Ventura's thermite experiment failed and that he refused to admit it, because he lies. Kinda like him being a SEAL.
2 - I make fun of your pitiful thermite theory because it's right up there with no planers in terms of sheer laughability. Not ONE idiot truther has come up with a viable explanation of how much thermite it would take to bring down the towers. That is why I mock you.
And I laugh at your ignorance of the BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY.
Fortunately professionals like myself - know better.
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Ventura may not be a professional Physicist like myself - but I give him credit for testing his theory. Something which I'm sure - you DON'T WANT people DOING.
No, actually, I WANT truthers to try out their ideas. But what i don't want is when people like Steven Jones - a THEOLOGY PROFESSOR, who run tests on what they are sure is thermatic residue, and say that if it is, it will ignite at 450 degrees Celcius. When it did NOT, all of a sudden it was because it was somehow "deactivated" and rendered useless to make the "truthers" look bad.
Come on, guy. You have to have more sense than that
Get your facts straight BEFORE you make dumb-ill informed videos. That's really what I want.
Jones - is a Physicist. You've got him confused with the OTHER GUY.
And you TRY doing a BASIC aluminium - iron oxide reaction, and then compare that to a kerosene and paper fire - stick your fingers in both - and tell me which one makes you scream louder.
@MathewTitus First you'd have to tell me were i put some "ill information" in this one. Ventura did a test and didn't share the results because they didn't go with his idea of what happened, so... where is the ill iformed part coming in to play? But thanks for knowing what I'm talking about when a truther won't admit when he's wrong. Even though I got my truther's names mixed up (it happens) the fact remains that he blamed his fail test on the government shutting down his chips.
Okay, you're human - you make mistakes. It's good to have you admit that.
If the reason you made this video - is to make an ad hominem attack on Gov. Ventura - then you should have said so at the start. Of course, then I'd not harp on the nano-thermite issue - or, the iron micropsheres - or, the explosions - or, even Building 7.
So this video - is simply to attack the credibility of - Jesse Ventura?
I'm not even going to speculate WHY you would go through all that trouble.
@MathewTitus let's go through this again - I made this video because Jesse Ventura, hosting his conspiracy theroy show, conducted an experiment to show that thermite was the reason the towers fell. I showed the unaired results of his test that proved him wrong and that in fact showed he did not give you the full results, instead he tried to hand wave it away. Ventura is dishonest on his show, and in the details of his history, making him a LIAR.
@MathewTitus Do you have any idea what an ad hom attack is? Saying Ventura is a lair for not showing that he failed is not the same as saying 'Ventura is wrong about thermite because he was a sorry wrestler" See the difference?
And ol' Janos was not "incomplete" about anything. He just did not show that he did not get his desired results and instead wanted you to believe that his thermite worked. It did not, you know it didn't, he knows it, but he still played it off like it did.
"Funny how wikileaks has 700 THOUSAND documents and not one of them has ANYTHING regarding 9/11 being an inside job"
Yes, and for this reason the 9/11 "truth" cult will likely explain this with yet another conspiracy. They will likely claim that wikileaks itself is part of a government conspiracy to release documents that don't prove 9/11 was an inside job. That's how conspiracy occultism works.
@jayep Even if the thermite didn't work, it still doesn't change the fact that the government is trying to cover up the truth about 9/11. You know they're lying to us and you know they will lie to go to war, so regardless of what you guys think about Ventura why are you sticking up for the government? Ventura unlike the government actually gives a shit about us the U.S. citizens
@jayep In that very episode they mention the thermite they were using was not the military standard suspected of being used in the WTC because they were not able to get military grade thermite. There were tons of variables missing from that experiment all together. The only purpose was to show that painting thermite on the beams would indeed force the fires to burn hotter, which the results came back that in fact it did. I bet if he poured jet fuel and lit it the beam would not break either.
9 years too the day and we still havent had a single definitive alternative version of the days events from the toofers despite all of the mountains of SHIT they call evidence of an inside job
Let me guess you are waiting for the 10 year anniversary... right?
Meanwhile in the REAL world muslims are planning to build a mosque 2 blocks from the WTC site called the Cordoba project Cordoba being a mosque they built to declare victory over the Christians they defeated
sorry i should be more specific, can you provide a pdf or web link to that statement made at the end of this video. Only a handful of results were returned in google when i googled whether jesse ventura was a navy seal or not. thanks
i listened to the dave thomas and richard cage debate on coast to coast... Dave lost his credibility when he stated that building 7 didn't collapse in a symmetrical fashion... this is either pure idiocy or blatant ignorance in efforts to win a debate. Because some debris from WTC 7 damaged the Verzion building behind it doesn't suggest at all that it came down asymmetrically. if you watch any controlled demolition, none of them are absolutely flawless.
to counter your claim, I point simply to your fellow truthers and their video for their Building What? ad they have this asinine idea that it's going to be seen by a million people in new york. Go watch it, and take a loooong look at the 16-17 second time frame. In case you miss it, it shows 7 not going down symetrically at all. Dave Thomas is right. Gage is wrong. Thank you.
i'm not a truther of any kind, i just know what i saw... anyways this is a futile discussion. i made my point, you made yours, just prove that Jesse Ventura wasn't a navy seal, all i have what i asked for and we can move on.
This Jayep guy is a joke... once you can explain why building 7 collapsed after no plane hit it... then someone would believe your 2 year old theories...
@chimbolax As soon as you can explain why the damage to and fires inside the building weren't enough to take it down, and -this is the part you're going to hate - provide proof of your explaination, then maybe you can explain why Jesse's thermite experiment blew up in his face
@jayep Sure, many buildings around the world have burned for hour and they have not collapsed. These "small fires" would never be enough to bring down a skyscraper.
@chimbolax ok so why dont we do 9/11 all over again and YOU STAY inside Bldg 7 because after all none of the falling debris from the towers hit it... right?
@SWEP2AOTC2002 lol.. what an idiot... falling debris demolished a 57 storie sky scraper... your mentality of 3 year old monkey makes me laugh... have fun at the special olympics... Ignorant.
What would have happened to the beam if they had painted THE WHOLE BEAM with the thermate paint. Note the first thing talked about in this stupid video is that Jessee was OVER ACTING. Don't jump into the facts. Take cheap shots instead.
Dude, you are an idiot! Attack the messenger--that's how you opporate! You call people who listen to information about 9/11 Truth and Jesse Ventura activities, gulible people, I call it open minded to finding the TRUTH. I have never understood skeptics, Closed minded idiots who are putting down whistle blowers and really just trying to make money on putting down those who are trying to put info out to the masses that might solve problems. The Thermite is there- you are an idiot!
@MathewTitus then you must remember that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C
So maybe you can explain to me how the buildings were supposed to remain standing despite the massice structual damage and out of control fires.
@jayep The buildings were designed for multiple plane impacts. The people who made them have stated so - and laws are in place to make them so. But even that aside - I have pictures of molten steel - taken on the day - and several days after - burning underground. My friend worked in NY - during the time of the attack - so the evidence is not tampered with in any way, shape or form.
@MathewTitus False. Thats internet rumor. The guy who designed the fuxing things is clear and umistakeable. It was designed for ONE hit, smaller than a 767, and with little fuel.
and since speed is a sqaured value for force, the one hit the towers did take, was 9x the force they were designed for.
Sweety - listen: Say you're sorry - and I'll tell you.
You need to say sorry for two things:
1. For calling someone you don't know: Stupid
2. For calling someone telling you truth : A Liar
Until you do that - this conversation - is over.
Great distraction btw. This prevents me from talking about the molten metal. NORAD standing down for 80 minutes - or, the invasion order signed one day before 9/11. I suppose you don't want me talking about THAT now - do you?
Refusing to answer a question - especially one asked in bad faith - does not constitute lying, my friend.
But more than that - isn't it strange that being called a "truther" carries now a greater stigma than being called a "liar"?
Ironic - but therein lies the power of the mainstream media. But let me make one final recomendation to you - and anyone else - actually reading these comments: Google "Architects and Engineers for Truth" - if you want to know the numbers.
@MathewTitus But refusing to answer the question because you lied about knowing the answer IS a lie.
I turned down your friend request, of course, because only a moron would befriend someone who lies to them. .
I realize in Kookworld "Its on the interent, so it has to be true" makes sense. But you should take your own advice and Google "peer-review." If ae911 kooks had REAL science, they would have passed peer-review--they cant. Because its junk science.
I actually and understand skepticism about "peer review" - but I have to say that the peer review system in the United States (at least) has been badly corrupted. Just look at the giant mess they made with Global Warming.
What happened with 9/11 - is just the tip of the iceberg. The Scientific Community - on the whole - has been infiltrated with corrupt scientists - who pass nonsense like the NIST report of as "official" - Independant ones like AE911 - get attacked by...U?
@AchmedTitus--youre only claiming its been corrupted, because it wont tell you what you want to hear. And both sides have passed peer-reviews on the issue of GW. Peer-review is a necc, but not sufficient condition. People who try and fail to pass peer-review, or who dont even try to pass it, prove themselves fundamentally unserious about the work.
Its not a perfect system, but whining "Peer-review wont tell me what I want to hear, therefore its corrupt" is childish denial.
C.I.A-man.... listen. When "peer" means 50 or so, people being paid of with worthless Federal Reserve Notes - and not 1,200 Architects and Engineers together with around 500 or so Physicists - then "peer-review" turns into something of a scam. In any case, for 9/11 - you don't need any peers to tell you what went on - because the knowledge of Physics and Chemistry needed to figure out what went on - is taught at High School level... no PhD. work needed there.
You are no Patriot and you are certainly no Scientist. You don't love the United States of America. Your only job is to destabilize it by psychological games like this one. I feel sorry for you. But you picked the wrong person to do a psy-op on Mr. C.I.A-dah.
You've been arguing a moot point - but I've gone along, in the faint chance that you were earnest. The planes didn't bring those building down. Thermite and a great deal of high explosives did. But you KNOW this.
You're fighting on the wrong side of this info-war, man. You're fighting for the Neo-Cons and bankers - who have hijacked this country - and murdered innocent people. - Think about it man - you have blood on your hand if you keep defending them like this. Fight for the PEOPLE - Fight for the CONSTITUTION
- Fight for the AMERICA that once was - and can be again!
Translation, you dont have ANY evidence at all (not even slightest shred--not even an Uncorroborated rumor) that shows the invasion plans for aghanistan were already on the table, 2 days before 911.
Understood.
Im curious. Whats in it for you, to lie for Alqaeda? What do you get out of it?
@AchmedTitus--Google "Mathew Titus fux dogs in the ass" then claim its proof you fux dogs in the ass.
Sorry bitch. Thats not the way it works. Burden of proof is on the claimant. YOU make the claim, its 100% on YOU to prove your claims true. No one else has to do your research for you.
and like all your other claims, a bullshit lie--as your paucity of evidence proves.
You didnt answer my question--"What do you get out of lying for Alqaeda?"
Why is it after 9 years and 1 day that the toofers have yet to provide a single solitary alternate explanation for the days events despite the mountaisn of SHIT you call evidence of an inside job?
How about this: The United States of America has been HIJACKED via the Federal Reserve - which is a PRIVATE BANK owned by essentially three families. It is THEIR INTEREST that these Wars be fought because YOU (dumbass) are PAYING THEM for the MONEY you BORROW from them WITH INTEREST - to FUND these WARS. - Ever ask yourself WHERE the MONEY came from TO FUND 9/11 - with all that EXPENSIVE Nano Thermite?
Awww... how sweet! You REMEMBERED what I said - even after a month!
I'll ask Ahmadinejad to blow you a kiss - the next time he talks about 9/11 at the UN.
Key word: Nano Thermite - remember that one sweety!
Ask Condy Rice for the rest of the details - pretty sure she'll tell you all you need to know - at the Hague... just before she is sentenced for genocide.
You know, if "el-C.I.A.-dah" Agents were half as dumb as you are - they'd be about as smart as chickens.
I've given you your proof, lady: Now just go to Google - type in three little words - "U.S. sought attack" - then, click any grey button you see there.
And while you're at it - look up "Patent #6766744" - and see who owns the rights to the nano thermite used on those buildings. (WTC1, WTC2 and Building 7)
The USGS found five tonnes of the stuff in the dust...
The USGS found "microspheres" - which indicate that steel melted - and was blasted away at high enough speeds to allow them to cool into these little microspheres as they hit the ground. Now Military Grade THERMITE (Thermate) was found in the DUST. These are little grey/red flakes of very unforms size. Now if I see a chicken - sitting next to an egg...
I'm only back here because I watched THIS video v=wktlwCPDd94
It made me feel sorry for you. But I need to move on, now.
@MathewTheDogfuxer. So we agree, you lied. They didnt find any nanothermite. So you changed the claim to microspheres
And the kicker? It was normal and expected to find the spheres. They looked specifically FOR the spheres to differentiate the WTC dust from the background dust.
Duh.
Nor was there any thermite found in the dust. Repeating a kookery claim isnt proving a kookery claim. Sorry.
They didn't REPORT the Chicken (Nano Thermite) but said they found five tonnes of eggs (microspheres) - I wonder why?
You sure you want to keep pushing this line? You're not exactly helping your Masters here, you know. The samples of the dust are still available - want to check it yourself? (Assuming you KNOW what Nano Thermite looks like)
@EdgemanLL2 Ooh... okay, I see your point, Hedgeman - they didn't REPORT any - so they didn't FIND any. Nice. That's the kind of thing I've come to trust about you Hedge - always helping people out to see the logic behind the C.I.A. train of thought.
Now, you're saying that - if there was no nano-thermite explosives - it means that all those 5 tonnes of steel microshphere must have been air-dropped - as all three buildings collapsed - to give the ILLUSION that Nano Thermite WAS USED!
No sound? - The newly released videos from NIST have got PLENTY of sound - explosions going off - Firefighters with parts of they face blown off talking about explosions in the lobby.
You can see the USGS report for the distribution of contents in the dust - microspheres included - and do a simple calculation to see how much of the actual stuff was there. Actual samples can be attained from Richard Gage of AE 9/11 Truth. You'll also find the "unreported" nano thermite in there.
You know, call me crazy, but if I had part of my face blown off by anything, you'd bet your sweet ass that I'd give an accurate description of what did it. Did any of those firefighters say specifically "a bomb did this to me?"
at what point in that 1:51 video did they say that there were bombs and that is what was powerful enough to blow up the lobby but leave their firefighting uniforms intact? As for someone's face being "blown off", the member on the right seems to have a laceration on his nose as a result of falling debris. No where in that video did I hear "bomb". Please point out where this was said
@jayep You heard them say "explosions" - from the very start. And these are firefighters. You can keep talking about semantics - but if all the evidence now released is still somehow insufficient to "convince" you - I'm sure it is because of reasons which only you know of. I'm just glad that the videos are still being released by NIST under court order. A new investigation - will soon be underway.
@MathewTitus 2 firefighters in a collapsing building saying exploision were happening... this is not odd. The fact that you are using this as evidence that explosives were used is. Would you like to know why?
@MathewTitus so what kind of explosives can totally destroy an acre of office lobby but leave those two men's uniforms completely intact? I'm still waiting on you to answer this
@jayep Good question - but I guess we'll never know the answer to that, since despite all the testimony of those on the ground - explosives were never tested for. Breaking with Standard Prosedure on ALL Fires - and Violating the Law. And yet, no one was prosecuted - even for super-sloppy detective work.
The dog didn't bark. It should have - but it didn't....
(A minor Sherlock Holmes reference there - in case anyone missed it.)
@MathewTitus I'm curious - where can i find where firefighters are required per your "standard procedures to check for explosives?" Which law, be it county, state, or federal did they break for this?
I'll ask you this: When is the last time firemen DIDN'T look for explosives or accelerants in a fire?
It took a Lawsuit to get NIST to release that video of the firemen talking about explosions. That alone is curious. But let's just say - after all the fuss - they missed the nano-thermite together with whatever other explosives were used. Let's just imagine that firemen don't look for the source of explosions that nearly kill them. In that world - buildings just... fall. ;)
@MathewTitus Since you failed to show me the standard procedure and exactl law they violated, I'll chalk your last comment up to "you pulled that out of your ass"
I "failed" to show you that the standard posedure for any fire - is to check for the source of fire (i.e. including explosives) - therefore I pulled the Law out of my ass?
I like that line of reasoning... ;)
And now, you're trying to be as rude as Edgeman - the C.I.A. shill.... which makes me wonder: Do they pay you guys per comment - or, by the hours you spend online?
In any case, it was fun talking to all you C.I.A. people.... bye y'all!! xD
@MathewTitus That's not what you said initially. You stated it was common for firefighters to look for explosives - standard procedure, you stated. A violation of the law, you said, that they didn't look for explosives. I asked what procedure and law, you then changed it to "explosives and accelerants" and you close out your argument with "standard procedure to check for the source of fire". Goalposts moved twice when I asked you for proof. And then you leave in a tizzy. Sigh.
So basically you were regurgitating and never bothered to check if that law actually existed.
Its ok run away to your typical red herrings. The evidence end of an argument is obviously too much for you to handle. Yes it is amazing how so so alike truthers are. When it comes to evidence they all run and hide.
There will not be a new investigation because no one has challenged the last ones.There is no evidence of explosives, demolitions, thermite or any cover up.
Goodbye C.I.A. shill-man. You know you've got your head up your own anal canal... but that's never been my problem with you. I just wish you would quit wasting your life - working for criminals. You'll get burned - sooner or later. And it's mostly likely sooner - in your case. All the best! ;)
@MathewTitus "You're fighting on the wrong side of this info-war, man"
Are we really maaaaaaaan?!
"You're fighting for the Neo-Cons and bankers - who have hijacked this country"
Are we really maaaaan? Last I checked it was the DEMOCRATS in power now MAAAAAAN If the neocons and bankers were in charge then why werent the able to maintain the House and Senate in 2006 and keep the White House in 2008?
@AchmedTitus BTW, if youre going to be picky about that kinda thing, you should apologize for lying about the design of the towers, and lying about "I know how much it would take."
You should apoligize twice.
1) for lying
2) for insulting someone for telling the truth. =]
I'm actually a blacksmith, and let me tell you, on a simple coal forge you can heat steel to the point where you can work it with hand tools in minutes. At 538C steel glows red even in daylight. 649C is considered the optimal temperature to work with steel. The WTC fire was somewhere around 932C. This coupled with the fact that the steel girders were supporting hundreds of thousands of pounds makes a thermite paint theory redundant.
Ventura can only be taken seriously in YTPs. Nothing else. I can't believe people are so gullible to believe a scripted program.
blacktigerpaw1 3 days ago in playlist More videos from jayep
Ventura? Really?
This is how empty the truther movement is. The fact that Alex Jones and Jess Ventura can make money off this bullshit is telling.
HellRehab 1 week ago
Why don't truthers realize that thermite isn't designed for cutting large steel beams? It's used for welding railroad tracks together...
MazJax 2 weeks ago
@MazJax I don't think they know that. Or ever will.
blacktigerpaw1 3 days ago in playlist More videos from jayep
Your vid is a favorite on Brunei
dailypinoyshowbiz 3 weeks ago
Very good video. Van Romero makes an excellent point about the duration of the fire being the critical factor here. If the steel had actually been exposed to thermite/super-thermite/thermate, there is a high probability that the steel would have cooled off quicker after exposure. This video once again proves how unreliable thermite actually is.
MrSkunkwork100 2 months ago
Your ignorance of incendiaries is beautiful
jayep 3 months ago
All that he was showing was that if you paint it on rather than puring on hot iron it has better effect. Nano thermite would have explosive reaction because of nano size particle and organic materials that makes fast expanding gas. Then most of heat energy is blown in steel that has been weakened by sulfur. That of course happens in fast explosive reaction.
While amount of chemical energy isn't huge, it is efficiently used rather than wasted in slow burning reaction where most of heat is lost.
KBendix 3 months ago
Nothing you guys have provided has proved it was. Keep digging!
jayep 3 months ago
a completely mad show on commercial TV... does NOT prove that 9/11/2001 wasn't a FALSE FLAG OPERATION.
DeepSpace8andahalf 3 months ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf But it does show how stupid the people on your side rally are!! LOL
lptl081 3 months ago
@lptl081 Beyond all the name-calling (etc...) can ANYONE address the issue
that is WHY are so many of the events of 9/11/2001 STRANGE, that is the 2.25 sec of free fall acceleration that WTC7 experienced. and the fact that "FLT175" is seen traveling as fast while penetrating a wall as it flies through AIR.... whats up with that?
DeepSpace8andahalf 3 months ago
@DeepSpace8andahalf The freefall of WTC7 is NOT true and there is nothing that says what hit the Pentagon was traveling through walls as fast as through air. Post a link.
lptl081 3 months ago in playlist lptl081's favorites
@lptl081 The NIST said that WTC7 descended for 2.25 sec at 9.8 m/s ^2
Please see - - - watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I
also, it was FLT77 that allegedly hit the PENTAGON, "FLT175" hit the SOUTH TOWER, and the EVAN FAIRBANKS video clearly shows an act that defies the laws of physics.
DeepSpace8andahalf 3 months ago
@Stealth9500 Is that the one with Gage, Griffin, and Avery? I found it funny that every experiment went against their theories, and all they could do was make bullshit excuses.
eaglejoe8 3 months ago
Is there a video to Van Romero's experiement, outside of this clip, available?
That's a clip I'd like to have in my back pocket for the idiots that believe in the thermite crap.
eaglejoe8 4 months ago
So the expert they got to test their theory, didn't produce the results they wanted. No problem, just edit his video.
khakain 4 months ago in playlist More videos from jayep
ahahaha at 1:28 "this is the building we want to get into but they don't want us to see in there"
"try the doorbell"
Yeah and if no one answers the door just look through the little window
ahahahha if it was that secure of a building I don't think you would be video taping there and have a little window on the door
Jesse Ventura is a fucking idiot.
12weasel100 6 months ago 9
You sir are the greatest human being in human history.
jesseVenturanotaSeaI 7 months ago
wow government has brainwashed you __-
mikeusa93 8 months ago
@mikeusa93 would it be too much to ask for you theorists to start SHOWING me I'm wrong and backing it up with research and facts rather than just dismissing everything?
jayep 8 months ago 10
@jayep YEAH JACKASS see the link on my channel page and tell me how you explain the MOLTEN STEEL found in the basements of ALL 3 WTCs including WTC 7
Stupid fuck...
WhineAssQuestions 3 months ago
@WhineAssQuestions You're a fucking idiot. Post a link or shut the fuck up.
lptl081 3 months ago
@mikeusa93 some day, in some forum, a twoofer will have to address facts rather than dodge -- what a glorious day that will be for the world
Denierbud11 8 months ago
You're right,the government loves you,wants to protect your freedoms,rights,& liberties,it wants to give each & every civilian a leg up to excel & achieve their hopes & dreams,the mainstream media only tells you the truth & the important information,all other news sites are not legitimate.There is no conspiracy, shut up, pay your taxes,& go back to sleep America.Don't pay attention to the folks in power-they only serve your interests-look at how wonderful & free America is now.War=good(sarcasm)
AmericanThinkTank 9 months ago
Just wondering where you found the full video of Dr. Van Romero. I would like to use it in the future. Thanks.
JonRevere 9 months ago
TERMITES
PersianPaladin 9 months ago
@joachimRa... Dude...Please re read my post... my argument is prove to me how the so called damage was done.. i put forth for my experience which i clearly stae how steel works.. so with all due respect take it up with someone else.. I'm not going to debate something with anyone that I can care less on because i already have my opinion on what happened on 9/11... ty
djphilmacx 10 months ago
"They're trying to kill ME!"
yaminowa 11 months ago
Wow, what a class act, at 55:00 slamming Donna Marsh O'Connor for "bad acting". A 110-story skyscraper fell on Ms. O'Connor's daughter.
Here's some more "bad acting" from Ms. O'Connor: watch?v=A_NmRhwfqm0
punxsutawneybarney 11 months ago 2
@punxsutawneybarney "Goodbye Governor" "....bye" "Keep working hard... WE NEED YOU." All said from her porch casting a hopeful and follwoing look at him as he walks away...
yeah, that's some bad acting there.
jayep 11 months ago
@jayep What makes you think it was acting? Obviously she thought she needed the Gov. or she wouldn't have said it. And even if it was bad acting, slamming the family members is bad form.
punxsutawneybarney 11 months ago
@punxsutawneybarney how did I "slam the family" by pointing out that Ventura's show layed the cheese on heavy? Go ahead. Point it out. I'll point out that the scene in question looks entirely staged with the breathless farewell to the hero Ventura. Nobody panic... a fake Navy SEAL is on the case!
jayep 11 months ago 3
I liked him better when he was a pet detective.
deliciousmorton 11 months ago
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djphilmacx 11 months ago
oo and one other thing.. when you show the clip of the guy hitting or should i say tapping the beam with the hammer.. that don't prove anything.. I can heat a piece of steel beam to 2100 degrees to where it is cherry red and white hot and tap it with a hammer and it will slightly dent it in about a 1/4 inch if that.. agian not proving any structual damage to the beam
djphilmacx 11 months ago
on the beam that it would be holding up.. then you would see a the true failure of the beam or not.. So the whole thermite thing or not and jet fuel or not is all crap if they can't recontruct the true pliablity of the heated beam with a tensel load on it in PSI.. so when they can show that test I'll be convinced.. again I heat and bend structual steel for a living and a very long time at that .. i bent alot of steel.. i know how it reacts under alot of varied conditions.. hope this helps ty
djphilmacx 11 months ago
At 800 deg f the steel becomes pliable at 1000 deg f it loses 60% of it's tensel strength and bents easy at 2100 degrees it melts.. now all the test shows the steel just being heated.. i can lay a piece down and heat it with a oxy -fuel torch and let it cool and some weakness occurs in that area.. now why i asked in the tests did they not put the related tensel strength on the beam after it was heated to see if it failed? Meaning after they heated the area put the related pounds
djphilmacx 11 months ago
I've watched alot of these structual steel tests and 9/11 .. I'm not here to debate what happened on 9/11 I have my own opinions I care not to share.. but what pisses me off is the crap these so called experts fed everyone on the steel beams.. I am a 21yr certified welder. I bent, cut, heated and went to school for structrual steel and other welding materials here are the facts you can look up for yourselves.. Structrual building grade steel developes micro stress fractures at 400 degrees F
djphilmacx 11 months ago
funny thing is..people laughed at steven jones when he first suggested that thermite could be mixed with paint..he was called a nut..an insane fool..but wait..romero shows it can be and its all ok..and for sake of argument..how much did they paint on..what was the mixture ratio..notice only a small part of 1 side of the beam was painted..what if all parts of the beam were painted with a more concentrated amount..would the results be the same?
lexicon008 1 year ago
LOL...amazing what gullible people will believe.
CRoadwarrior 1 year ago
Try the doorbell... LOL!
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago 2
WAKE UP
WAKE UP
WAKE UP
WAKE UP
THERMITE CUTTING STEEL - VALIDATED - EXPERIMENTALLY DEMONSTRATED
youtube.com/watch?v=LNOM_U5UM6Q
1112223333111 1 year ago
THERMITE CUTTING STEEL - VALIDATED - EXPERIMENTALLY DEMONSTRATED
youtube.com/watch?v=LNOM_U5UM6Q
1112223333111 1 year ago
I used to like Jesse while he was Governor, but now I consider the fact that he comes from my home state a major embarresment.
JasonL77 1 year ago
@JasonL77 You sound like Marty McFly's sister.......before he changed time.
1112223333111 1 year ago
And the specs to make "military grade" thermite are...
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep - And the specs to make "military grade" thermite are...
A lesson in 7th grade chemistry. It's nothing exotic. Generally you want "ramp temperatures" along with the oxidation. Regular thermite is Aluminum-Oxide + Iron-Oxide + sufficient heat to start the reaction (oxygen to sustain the reaction is in the metal). Another common ingredient would be to add in Titanium-Oxide. Add Mercuric-Chrome if you want to prolong the reaction.
Matrix29bear 9 months ago
Wait... You think the US Government is covering up 9/11, and you are outraged, but a TRUTHER covers up results on a test that pretty much shuts the door on his argument and that's acceptable to you? Explain this logic to me.
jayep 1 year ago 2
"Well I guess you know that means" - Probably that this is going to be an incredibly biased video and probably not worth your time if you are actually concerned with finding out the truth about 9/11.
Please watch my latest video "Explosive Connections" and find out who had Demolition Access to the WTC Towers on 9/11, and who could have planted the explosives there.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
@WarCrime911 No, this video was made to prove that Ventura is a fact hiding lying asstwit. If you watched it and I got any anything wrong, please... share with the group.
And your video... try to bring something more than just speculation, mmmkay?
jayep 1 year ago 2
@jayep,
I agree that Ventura's coverage of 9/11 was crap. But let's debate the thermite issue since pseudo-debunkers like yourself never seem to have their facts straight... YUP! Already found some!
01:58 - Author makes misleading claim. Thermite is not an explosive yes, but NANOthermite IS.
3:04 - Does fire and jet fuel burn long and hot enough to have structural failure? One would assume you'd have the logic to see thermite was hotter than fire... but apparently not.
WarCrime911 1 year ago
@WarCrime911 HI, and thanks for addressing the video!
Since you claim that nano thermite is an explaosive, can you tell me the proxess of transformation that occurs to make regular thermite into nano thermite, and what is it that happens that changes the propertoes from incindiary to explosive?
at 3:04, Van Romero asks whether the painted on thermite burned hot enough and long enough to cause structural failure. He says nothing about jet fuel. Jesse avoided that question out right.
jayep 1 year ago
TAKE YOUR FUCKING MUSIC OFF. JESUS CHRIST I THINK I MIGHT HAVE WOKEN UP THE PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS.
WHATISUTUBE 1 year ago
While I disagree with denial of evidence on a false-flag attack of 9/11, I do agree Jesse Ventura is an asshole and should stop pretending to be a scientist.
SexyMelon 1 year ago 3
These videos are simply designed to:
1. Distract the viewer into asking all the WRONG questions... e.g. on Jesse Ventura himself.
2. Prevent the focus CREDIBLE theory of the use of nano-thermite and/or other explosives in the destruction of the THREE WTC buildings.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
1 - This video was to show that Ventura's thermite experiment failed and that he refused to admit it, because he lies. Kinda like him being a SEAL.
2 - I make fun of your pitiful thermite theory because it's right up there with no planers in terms of sheer laughability. Not ONE idiot truther has come up with a viable explanation of how much thermite it would take to bring down the towers. That is why I mock you.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
And I laugh at your ignorance of the BASIC LAWS OF PHYSICS AND CHEMISTRY.
Fortunately professionals like myself - know better.
See v=0lU-vu2JvZY
Ventura may not be a professional Physicist like myself - but I give him credit for testing his theory. Something which I'm sure - you DON'T WANT people DOING.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
No, actually, I WANT truthers to try out their ideas. But what i don't want is when people like Steven Jones - a THEOLOGY PROFESSOR, who run tests on what they are sure is thermatic residue, and say that if it is, it will ignite at 450 degrees Celcius. When it did NOT, all of a sudden it was because it was somehow "deactivated" and rendered useless to make the "truthers" look bad.
Come on, guy. You have to have more sense than that
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
Get your facts straight BEFORE you make dumb-ill informed videos. That's really what I want.
Jones - is a Physicist. You've got him confused with the OTHER GUY.
And you TRY doing a BASIC aluminium - iron oxide reaction, and then compare that to a kerosene and paper fire - stick your fingers in both - and tell me which one makes you scream louder.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus First you'd have to tell me were i put some "ill information" in this one. Ventura did a test and didn't share the results because they didn't go with his idea of what happened, so... where is the ill iformed part coming in to play? But thanks for knowing what I'm talking about when a truther won't admit when he's wrong. Even though I got my truther's names mixed up (it happens) the fact remains that he blamed his fail test on the government shutting down his chips.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
Okay, you're human - you make mistakes. It's good to have you admit that.
If the reason you made this video - is to make an ad hominem attack on Gov. Ventura - then you should have said so at the start. Of course, then I'd not harp on the nano-thermite issue - or, the iron micropsheres - or, the explosions - or, even Building 7.
So this video - is simply to attack the credibility of - Jesse Ventura?
I'm not even going to speculate WHY you would go through all that trouble.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus let's go through this again - I made this video because Jesse Ventura, hosting his conspiracy theroy show, conducted an experiment to show that thermite was the reason the towers fell. I showed the unaired results of his test that proved him wrong and that in fact showed he did not give you the full results, instead he tried to hand wave it away. Ventura is dishonest on his show, and in the details of his history, making him a LIAR.
where is the ad hom?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
Well - okay. And I'm agreeing with you here.
What you said was exactly what I said: the video is directed at Jesse Ventura - and you're calling him a "Liar" - for not showing the full results.
That's the very definition of "ad hominem" - since the main thrust of your thesis - is against Jesse.
My main point - is that you can't thow the baby out - with the bath water.
Incomplete - does not always mean - untrue.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Do you have any idea what an ad hom attack is? Saying Ventura is a lair for not showing that he failed is not the same as saying 'Ventura is wrong about thermite because he was a sorry wrestler" See the difference?
And ol' Janos was not "incomplete" about anything. He just did not show that he did not get his desired results and instead wanted you to believe that his thermite worked. It did not, you know it didn't, he knows it, but he still played it off like it did.
"truth"
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep Do YOU know what ad hominem means?
It's calling the Jesse a liar - and by default - casting doubt on a very credible theory.
I don't BELIEVE that the thermite worked - I KNOW it worked. And that's because unlike you, I've actually DONE the experiment.
Which is why I'm saying the theory holds water.
You should try it - it isn't difficult.
And I'm not talking about the super nano-thermite used on the WTC buildings - just your run-of-the-mill humdrum highschool variety.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Funny how wikileaks has 700 THOUSAND documents and not one of them has ANYTHING regarding 9/11 being an inside job
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
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@SWEP2AOTC2002
"Funny how wikileaks has 700 THOUSAND documents and not one of them has ANYTHING regarding 9/11 being an inside job"
Yes, and for this reason the 9/11 "truth" cult will likely explain this with yet another conspiracy. They will likely claim that wikileaks itself is part of a government conspiracy to release documents that don't prove 9/11 was an inside job. That's how conspiracy occultism works.
adkinsjr 1 year ago
@jayep Even if the thermite didn't work, it still doesn't change the fact that the government is trying to cover up the truth about 9/11. You know they're lying to us and you know they will lie to go to war, so regardless of what you guys think about Ventura why are you sticking up for the government? Ventura unlike the government actually gives a shit about us the U.S. citizens
bigseanpower10 1 year ago
@jayep In that very episode they mention the thermite they were using was not the military standard suspected of being used in the WTC because they were not able to get military grade thermite. There were tons of variables missing from that experiment all together. The only purpose was to show that painting thermite on the beams would indeed force the fires to burn hotter, which the results came back that in fact it did. I bet if he poured jet fuel and lit it the beam would not break either.
bizzyb0ne017 1 year ago
1:29 I like his cat burglar outfit right out of central casting costume closet
What a buffoon
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
9 years too the day and we still havent had a single definitive alternative version of the days events from the toofers despite all of the mountains of SHIT they call evidence of an inside job
Let me guess you are waiting for the 10 year anniversary... right?
Meanwhile in the REAL world muslims are planning to build a mosque 2 blocks from the WTC site called the Cordoba project Cordoba being a mosque they built to declare victory over the Christians they defeated
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
lastly, prove that Jesse Ventura wasn't a Navy Seal. You can't just make a statement like that and not back it up with any proof.
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
@kissmyaxx
my proof -
1- Ventura left the Navy a full 6 years before the SEALS merged with the UDT teams
2 - At the very end of this video there is a statement from his own spokesman when he was Governor stating Ventura admits he was never a Seal.
your proof that he was?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
i never said i had proof that he was. thank you.
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
@kissmyaxx
you're welcome. anything else I can help you with?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
yep, can you provide me with your source for that info.
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
@jayep
sorry i should be more specific, can you provide a pdf or web link to that statement made at the end of this video. Only a handful of results were returned in google when i googled whether jesse ventura was a navy seal or not. thanks
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
i listened to the dave thomas and richard cage debate on coast to coast... Dave lost his credibility when he stated that building 7 didn't collapse in a symmetrical fashion... this is either pure idiocy or blatant ignorance in efforts to win a debate. Because some debris from WTC 7 damaged the Verzion building behind it doesn't suggest at all that it came down asymmetrically. if you watch any controlled demolition, none of them are absolutely flawless.
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
@kissmyaxx
to counter your claim, I point simply to your fellow truthers and their video for their Building What? ad they have this asinine idea that it's going to be seen by a million people in new york. Go watch it, and take a loooong look at the 16-17 second time frame. In case you miss it, it shows 7 not going down symetrically at all. Dave Thomas is right. Gage is wrong. Thank you.
jayep 1 year ago
i'm not a truther of any kind, i just know what i saw... anyways this is a futile discussion. i made my point, you made yours, just prove that Jesse Ventura wasn't a navy seal, all i have what i asked for and we can move on.
kissmyaxx 1 year ago
This Jayep guy is a joke... once you can explain why building 7 collapsed after no plane hit it... then someone would believe your 2 year old theories...
chimbolax 1 year ago
@chimbolax As soon as you can explain why the damage to and fires inside the building weren't enough to take it down, and -this is the part you're going to hate - provide proof of your explaination, then maybe you can explain why Jesse's thermite experiment blew up in his face
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep Sure, many buildings around the world have burned for hour and they have not collapsed. These "small fires" would never be enough to bring down a skyscraper.
chimbolax 1 year ago
@chimbolax
true or false - you didn't even mention the damage to 7 because it kinda sorta makes your argument null and void if you bring it up.
jayep 1 year ago
@chimbolax ok so why dont we do 9/11 all over again and YOU STAY inside Bldg 7 because after all none of the falling debris from the towers hit it... right?
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@SWEP2AOTC2002 lol.. what an idiot... falling debris demolished a 57 storie sky scraper... your mentality of 3 year old monkey makes me laugh... have fun at the special olympics... Ignorant.
chimbolax 1 year ago
ventura makes the makes a credible theory look like a crock.
MangaChocobo 1 year ago
What would have happened to the beam if they had painted THE WHOLE BEAM with the thermate paint. Note the first thing talked about in this stupid video is that Jessee was OVER ACTING. Don't jump into the facts. Take cheap shots instead.
pileoftruth 1 year ago
Dude, you are an idiot! Attack the messenger--that's how you opporate! You call people who listen to information about 9/11 Truth and Jesse Ventura activities, gulible people, I call it open minded to finding the TRUTH. I have never understood skeptics, Closed minded idiots who are putting down whistle blowers and really just trying to make money on putting down those who are trying to put info out to the masses that might solve problems. The Thermite is there- you are an idiot!
tenlegsss 1 year ago
Yep - thermite can't cause "structural failure" - but burning kerosene and paper can?
Sweet theory.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
you forgot acres of combustible material and massive structural damage. you always forget those!
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep Do you know what temperatures are needed to melt steel? Have you tried to melt steel yourself? - I have.
Thermite works. Jet fuel and paper doesn't.
(And btw, I don't forget a thing - unlike the US media.)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus then you must remember that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C
So maybe you can explain to me how the buildings were supposed to remain standing despite the massice structual damage and out of control fires.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep The buildings were designed for multiple plane impacts. The people who made them have stated so - and laws are in place to make them so. But even that aside - I have pictures of molten steel - taken on the day - and several days after - burning underground. My friend worked in NY - during the time of the attack - so the evidence is not tampered with in any way, shape or form.
The official story - is a fabrication.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus False. Thats internet rumor. The guy who designed the fuxing things is clear and umistakeable. It was designed for ONE hit, smaller than a 767, and with little fuel.
and since speed is a sqaured value for force, the one hit the towers did take, was 9x the force they were designed for.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Yes - of course. And that would explain why the central core cut itself up and tucked itself into the rubble as it fell?
Or, did the kinetic energy twist the central core steel beams into tiny little bow ties?
Do you know how much energy that would take? - I do.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Just because youre too stupid to understand what happened, doesnt mean it didnt happen.
You know "how much it would take?" Great. Show your calculations.
Ill wait.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Name calling - won't serve you well. Tell your buddies at the C.I.A. to do the Math.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus In other words, you lied about that too. you have no idea. You never did the work to determine how much it would take.
Understood.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Sweety - listen: Say you're sorry - and I'll tell you.
You need to say sorry for two things:
1. For calling someone you don't know: Stupid
2. For calling someone telling you truth : A Liar
Until you do that - this conversation - is over.
Great distraction btw. This prevents me from talking about the molten metal. NORAD standing down for 80 minutes - or, the invasion order signed one day before 9/11. I suppose you don't want me talking about THAT now - do you?
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus---blah blah blah. Edge was right. Cry about Edge. blah blah blah.
You have to focus on me, because you lied about the facts. Case caaaaaaaLOSED!
=]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Now you have three things to apologize for - but I've sent you a friend request anyway. There is a chance you're just misguided.
=)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus So, still nothing?
Understood.
Tell you what. YOU keep whining about me. Ill keep exposing your lack of fact.
Deal?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Send my regards to Walter - the OTHER dummy in the box.
And since when did I whine about you?
I just insist on people being polite...
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus blah blah. More whining blah blah.
dont lie to people, then claim to want a polite discussion.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Refusing to answer a question - especially one asked in bad faith - does not constitute lying, my friend.
But more than that - isn't it strange that being called a "truther" carries now a greater stigma than being called a "liar"?
Ironic - but therein lies the power of the mainstream media. But let me make one final recomendation to you - and anyone else - actually reading these comments: Google "Architects and Engineers for Truth" - if you want to know the numbers.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus But refusing to answer the question because you lied about knowing the answer IS a lie.
I turned down your friend request, of course, because only a moron would befriend someone who lies to them. .
I realize in Kookworld "Its on the interent, so it has to be true" makes sense. But you should take your own advice and Google "peer-review." If ae911 kooks had REAL science, they would have passed peer-review--they cant. Because its junk science.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
I actually and understand skepticism about "peer review" - but I have to say that the peer review system in the United States (at least) has been badly corrupted. Just look at the giant mess they made with Global Warming.
What happened with 9/11 - is just the tip of the iceberg. The Scientific Community - on the whole - has been infiltrated with corrupt scientists - who pass nonsense like the NIST report of as "official" - Independant ones like AE911 - get attacked by...U?
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus--youre only claiming its been corrupted, because it wont tell you what you want to hear. And both sides have passed peer-reviews on the issue of GW. Peer-review is a necc, but not sufficient condition. People who try and fail to pass peer-review, or who dont even try to pass it, prove themselves fundamentally unserious about the work.
Its not a perfect system, but whining "Peer-review wont tell me what I want to hear, therefore its corrupt" is childish denial.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
C.I.A-man.... listen. When "peer" means 50 or so, people being paid of with worthless Federal Reserve Notes - and not 1,200 Architects and Engineers together with around 500 or so Physicists - then "peer-review" turns into something of a scam. In any case, for 9/11 - you don't need any peers to tell you what went on - because the knowledge of Physics and Chemistry needed to figure out what went on - is taught at High School level... no PhD. work needed there.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Alqaeda man!
Your comments prove you have no idea what peer-review is.
Not surprising. As you are wholely uneducated in anything related to facts, logic, physics, and the scientific methods.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
You are no Patriot and you are certainly no Scientist. You don't love the United States of America. Your only job is to destabilize it by psychological games like this one. I feel sorry for you. But you picked the wrong person to do a psy-op on Mr. C.I.A-dah.
You've been arguing a moot point - but I've gone along, in the faint chance that you were earnest. The planes didn't bring those building down. Thermite and a great deal of high explosives did. But you KNOW this.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus blah blah blah. cant refute the facts. So Call Edge names. Blah blah blah.
And you shitheads wonder why no one takes you seriously? LMGDAO!!!!!!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Let's play a game, shall we?
Let's call it "Fact or, Fiction" - I'm sure you'll like it, since you're SUCH a fan of making things up! Here goes:
"Full Afghanistan invasion plans were on President Bush's table on September 9th 2001... two full days BEFORE... well, September 11th."
Fact or Fiction?
Keep doing your job, Mr. C.I.A. - that's what the ruling elite pay you for! ;)
(The "C" there stand for Communist, btw.)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus.
Lets play a game called "show proof of your bullshit claims." Shall we?
Show me verifiable, able to be corroborated evidence where I see the afghanistan invasion plans, on Bush's desk, on sept 9th.
Bluff called, bitch, =]
Keep doing your job, Mr traitor to humanity! Mr Alqaeda apologist! =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
You're fighting on the wrong side of this info-war, man. You're fighting for the Neo-Cons and bankers - who have hijacked this country - and murdered innocent people. - Think about it man - you have blood on your hand if you keep defending them like this. Fight for the PEOPLE - Fight for the CONSTITUTION
- Fight for the AMERICA that once was - and can be again!
- PEACE! XXXOOOXXX
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus
Translation, you dont have ANY evidence at all (not even slightest shred--not even an Uncorroborated rumor) that shows the invasion plans for aghanistan were already on the table, 2 days before 911.
Understood.
Im curious. Whats in it for you, to lie for Alqaeda? What do you get out of it?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Google "US sought Attack" - you'll get your proof on MSNBC.
This war has never been against the fictional "Al-whatever" - they don't exist.
This war is a war against Truth, Justice - and FREEDOM!
This war is against EVERYTHING that America was BUILT ON!
The Afghans, the Iraqis, the Pakistanis... these people aren't loosing anything but their lives and natural resources.
Americans (and the World) - are loosing AMERICA...
to the globalist bankers.
- The End -
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus--Google "Mathew Titus fux dogs in the ass" then claim its proof you fux dogs in the ass.
Sorry bitch. Thats not the way it works. Burden of proof is on the claimant. YOU make the claim, its 100% on YOU to prove your claims true. No one else has to do your research for you.
and like all your other claims, a bullshit lie--as your paucity of evidence proves.
You didnt answer my question--"What do you get out of lying for Alqaeda?"
Scared to answer? Wonder why?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
Why is it after 9 years and 1 day that the toofers have yet to provide a single solitary alternate explanation for the days events despite the mountaisn of SHIT you call evidence of an inside job?
Please discuss... MAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@SWEP2AOTC2002
You want an alternative Mr. Guy With Stutter?
How about this: The United States of America has been HIJACKED via the Federal Reserve - which is a PRIVATE BANK owned by essentially three families. It is THEIR INTEREST that these Wars be fought because YOU (dumbass) are PAYING THEM for the MONEY you BORROW from them WITH INTEREST - to FUND these WARS. - Ever ask yourself WHERE the MONEY came from TO FUND 9/11 - with all that EXPENSIVE Nano Thermite?
No? - I wonder why...
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Still don't wanna talk about the subject at hand? You guys do that a lot.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
What subject at hand? The hit-piece on Jesse Ventura?
I'm talking about the Nano Thermite. Governor Ventura is doing the same.
I don't see CNN doing it - or any OTHER News Channel.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus
So, with even a month to find it, you cant any evidence that the plan to attack A-stan was already on the table days before the attack.
Lying, treasonous pussy,
Now, Tell me. What do you get out of lying for Alqaeda? Whats in it for you?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Awww... how sweet! You REMEMBERED what I said - even after a month!
I'll ask Ahmadinejad to blow you a kiss - the next time he talks about 9/11 at the UN.
Key word: Nano Thermite - remember that one sweety!
Ask Condy Rice for the rest of the details - pretty sure she'll tell you all you need to know - at the Hague... just before she is sentenced for genocide.
Bye, Love! XXXOOOXXX
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus
So thats a NOW, you still got nothing. Just another liar for Alqaeda. haha.
So, is your treason paid-for, or voluntary?
Just asking,
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
You know, if "el-C.I.A.-dah" Agents were half as dumb as you are - they'd be about as smart as chickens.
I've given you your proof, lady: Now just go to Google - type in three little words - "U.S. sought attack" - then, click any grey button you see there.
And while you're at it - look up "Patent #6766744" - and see who owns the rights to the nano thermite used on those buildings. (WTC1, WTC2 and Building 7)
The USGS found five tonnes of the stuff in the dust...
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Repeating tge lie isnt proving the lie.
Example: Me saying "go google Matthew titus fux dogs in the ass" isnt proof, is it dogfuxer?
Id ask you for a statement from the USGS where they say "we found tons of nanothermite" but we both know you made that up too.
So, Still unanswered, Achmed. Is your treason paid for, or voluntary?
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
The USGS found "microspheres" - which indicate that steel melted - and was blasted away at high enough speeds to allow them to cool into these little microspheres as they hit the ground. Now Military Grade THERMITE (Thermate) was found in the DUST. These are little grey/red flakes of very unforms size. Now if I see a chicken - sitting next to an egg...
I'm only back here because I watched THIS video v=wktlwCPDd94
It made me feel sorry for you. But I need to move on, now.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTheDogfuxer. So we agree, you lied. They didnt find any nanothermite. So you changed the claim to microspheres
And the kicker? It was normal and expected to find the spheres. They looked specifically FOR the spheres to differentiate the WTC dust from the background dust.
Duh.
Nor was there any thermite found in the dust. Repeating a kookery claim isnt proving a kookery claim. Sorry.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
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MathewTitus 1 year ago
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@EdgemanLL2
They didn't REPORT the Chicken (Nano Thermite) but said they found five tonnes of eggs (microspheres) - I wonder why?
You sure you want to keep pushing this line? You're not exactly helping your Masters here, you know. The samples of the dust are still available - want to check it yourself? (Assuming you KNOW what Nano Thermite looks like)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewThedogfuxer "they didnt report the chicken (thermite)..."
So we agree. They didnt find any. And you lied again. Excellent.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
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MathewTitus 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 Ooh... okay, I see your point, Hedgeman - they didn't REPORT any - so they didn't FIND any. Nice. That's the kind of thing I've come to trust about you Hedge - always helping people out to see the logic behind the C.I.A. train of thought.
Now, you're saying that - if there was no nano-thermite explosives - it means that all those 5 tonnes of steel microshphere must have been air-dropped - as all three buildings collapsed - to give the ILLUSION that Nano Thermite WAS USED!
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
Questions - how did they make an incindiary (thermite) an explosive that had no sound?
And where is this 5 tons of microspheres being held at?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
No sound? - The newly released videos from NIST have got PLENTY of sound - explosions going off - Firefighters with parts of they face blown off talking about explosions in the lobby.
You can see the USGS report for the distribution of contents in the dust - microspheres included - and do a simple calculation to see how much of the actual stuff was there. Actual samples can be attained from Richard Gage of AE 9/11 Truth. You'll also find the "unreported" nano thermite in there.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
You know, call me crazy, but if I had part of my face blown off by anything, you'd bet your sweet ass that I'd give an accurate description of what did it. Did any of those firefighters say specifically "a bomb did this to me?"
jayep 1 year ago
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MathewTitus 1 year ago
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@jayep
They absolutely did. Now, don't just take my word for it - just watch
v=IO1ps1mzU8o
There you go.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
at what point in that 1:51 video did they say that there were bombs and that is what was powerful enough to blow up the lobby but leave their firefighting uniforms intact? As for someone's face being "blown off", the member on the right seems to have a laceration on his nose as a result of falling debris. No where in that video did I hear "bomb". Please point out where this was said
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep You heard them say "explosions" - from the very start. And these are firefighters. You can keep talking about semantics - but if all the evidence now released is still somehow insufficient to "convince" you - I'm sure it is because of reasons which only you know of. I'm just glad that the videos are still being released by NIST under court order. A new investigation - will soon be underway.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus 2 firefighters in a collapsing building saying exploision were happening... this is not odd. The fact that you are using this as evidence that explosives were used is. Would you like to know why?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep Building don't simply explode - in the lobby - when planes hit the top.
The buildings were not "collapsing" - until the final controlled demolition.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus so what kind of explosives can totally destroy an acre of office lobby but leave those two men's uniforms completely intact? I'm still waiting on you to answer this
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep Good question - but I guess we'll never know the answer to that, since despite all the testimony of those on the ground - explosives were never tested for. Breaking with Standard Prosedure on ALL Fires - and Violating the Law. And yet, no one was prosecuted - even for super-sloppy detective work.
The dog didn't bark. It should have - but it didn't....
(A minor Sherlock Holmes reference there - in case anyone missed it.)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus I'm curious - where can i find where firefighters are required per your "standard procedures to check for explosives?" Which law, be it county, state, or federal did they break for this?
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
I'll ask you this: When is the last time firemen DIDN'T look for explosives or accelerants in a fire?
It took a Lawsuit to get NIST to release that video of the firemen talking about explosions. That alone is curious. But let's just say - after all the fuss - they missed the nano-thermite together with whatever other explosives were used. Let's just imagine that firemen don't look for the source of explosions that nearly kill them. In that world - buildings just... fall. ;)
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Since you failed to show me the standard procedure and exactl law they violated, I'll chalk your last comment up to "you pulled that out of your ass"
try the 580 overpass. See what you find there.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
I "failed" to show you that the standard posedure for any fire - is to check for the source of fire (i.e. including explosives) - therefore I pulled the Law out of my ass?
I like that line of reasoning... ;)
And now, you're trying to be as rude as Edgeman - the C.I.A. shill.... which makes me wonder: Do they pay you guys per comment - or, by the hours you spend online?
In any case, it was fun talking to all you C.I.A. people.... bye y'all!! xD
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus That's not what you said initially. You stated it was common for firefighters to look for explosives - standard procedure, you stated. A violation of the law, you said, that they didn't look for explosives. I asked what procedure and law, you then changed it to "explosives and accelerants" and you close out your argument with "standard procedure to check for the source of fire". Goalposts moved twice when I asked you for proof. And then you leave in a tizzy. Sigh.
jayep 1 year ago
@jayep
Let's talk about shifting goal posts - just to humour you one last time.
Your whole video is about "super thermite" not being hot enough to burn through steel.
My only statement to that was - so.... burning paper and kerosene - can?
You seem to think so.
Shows how thoroughly researched your work on your subject matter is... ;)
Goodbye - honestly. I've got to move on to more interesting C.I.A. shills - with much better psy-ops.
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
I think everyone is still waiting to see that law. Oh right...you were just regurgitating what you read online.
grandmastershek 1 year ago
@grandmastershek
It's amazing how so many supposedly "different people" - so so alike, don't you think?
There's a pretty good chance you're just one guy - with mutiple accounts PRETENDING to be more than one person. Aww... that's like soooooo pathetic.
Go call your local fire department - talk to the guy in charge - and then get back to me - Edgeman/Jayep/Grandmastershek
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
So basically you were regurgitating and never bothered to check if that law actually existed.
Its ok run away to your typical red herrings. The evidence end of an argument is obviously too much for you to handle. Yes it is amazing how so so alike truthers are. When it comes to evidence they all run and hide.
grandmastershek 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
I like how I can put out a video that has nothing but ME in it, and you still think these other guys are me.
jayep 1 year ago
@MathewTitus
There will not be a new investigation because no one has challenged the last ones.There is no evidence of explosives, demolitions, thermite or any cover up.
jhcltcsgt 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus Explosions are actually pretty common in burning building.
Duh.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@MathewTitus Ohh, Ok. I see your point, Moron. The local police never reported that youre a child molester, so thats proof its true!
See how it works in the real world, moron? you cant say "they never said they found it, so thats proof its true!
LOLOLOL. Its not accident that the biggest morons always believe the kookspiracies. LMGDAO!!!!!!
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 More name calling CUNT STAIN you must be losing this argument too!!
3133123 1 year ago
@Monkeyboy<--admits I always beat him. All he does is name-call
dance for me again, Monkeyboy! HAHAHAHAHAH
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2
Goodbye C.I.A. shill-man. You know you've got your head up your own anal canal... but that's never been my problem with you. I just wish you would quit wasting your life - working for criminals. You'll get burned - sooner or later. And it's mostly likely sooner - in your case. All the best! ;)
XXOOOXXX
MathewTitus 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus. OK. so you got nothing to prove your bullshit that they found thermite. Excellent. Its a start. =]
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@EdgemanLL2 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
3133123 1 year ago
@MathewTitus "You're fighting on the wrong side of this info-war, man"
Are we really maaaaaaaan?!
"You're fighting for the Neo-Cons and bankers - who have hijacked this country"
Are we really maaaaan? Last I checked it was the DEMOCRATS in power now MAAAAAAN If the neocons and bankers were in charge then why werent the able to maintain the House and Senate in 2006 and keep the White House in 2008?
MAAAAAAAAAAN
GROW THE FUCK UP MAAAAAAAAAAN
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
@AchmedTitus BTW, if youre going to be picky about that kinda thing, you should apologize for lying about the design of the towers, and lying about "I know how much it would take."
You should apoligize twice.
1) for lying
2) for insulting someone for telling the truth. =]
Ill wait.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@MathewTitus PS, changing the subject away from the "multiple hits lie" to something else proves you knew you lied about it.
I accept ur admission.
EdgemanLL2 1 year ago
@jayep
I'm actually a blacksmith, and let me tell you, on a simple coal forge you can heat steel to the point where you can work it with hand tools in minutes. At 538C steel glows red even in daylight. 649C is considered the optimal temperature to work with steel. The WTC fire was somewhere around 932C. This coupled with the fact that the steel girders were supporting hundreds of thousands of pounds makes a thermite paint theory redundant.
h8uall66 1 year ago