Guys relax, the Amiga vs Atari ST fight was alwas a friendly fight, the guys that made this were just kidding and same goes for the ST guys who made Anti Amiga Demo's,
And the War is now 16 years over whats the point ? this video is just here for nostalgia reasons, I had a Amiga (still have it :)) and my best friend had a Atari ST, he always said that the Amiga was for little girls because of the name and the Raster bars while I called his ST the "Atardri ShiT" or "Failcon", good times... :)
Atari ST was a good cheap entry to the 16 bit world of Computers. If you liked your Spectrum and defend the honour of that, the this is similar. You can use Atari ST for word processing and practical things too. Many good games for the system, too, you would have fun playing those too. Amiga had better sound and graphics for many games after 1989, great - but so what - really.
The Amiga was more powerful in the graphics and sound sampling department. The OS was amazing and offered multitasking way before any other mainstream machine. The Atari ST on the other hand had a bulit-in MIDI port which made it more interesting for music studios where it found a niche for years even after Atari went bust in 1993.
@aceyage lol amiga os was garbage. sampling you mean dma sound something that later atari ste models had at 50 KHz you mean? probably beats your sound card you have now on you pc
There was even a fanboy war going on back then between these 2 computers.amiga ruled though.that st's sound chip was a beepy piece of shit compared to the mighty paula.
There was a similar song for amiga made by polish musicians. There were few talking samples among which one sound like this (an interviewer asks man on the street in polish ofc):
- Good afternoon, sir. What do you think about Atari?
the amiga was great computer, designed by the same peaple was designed the Atari 8 Bits Family. by the other side the Atari ST was designed by ex-commodore peaple.
man wtf i dont even want to talk about this crap ATARI REIGNED AMIGA. the ST sucked alright but the TT and Mega STE were STANDART equipment in any DTP or music studio.
Why you getting all emotional, the Amiga Vs ST days are long gone and there isn't much point in worrying about it anymore. It was a great time in computing regardless of which machine was better for what :)
It's very clear that no effort or creativity was used to make this "demo". The music track is incredibly lame and obviously only made to annoy Atari people. Very bad demonstration of the capabilities of Amiga.
Ich hatte damals beide Systeme (teuer bezahlt mit Ferienjobs als Kind/Jugendlicher). Warum beide? Damals war's ja fast noch "normal", dass jeder Spiele tauschte mit Freunden und so... und manch einer hatte eben einen Atari und der nächste den Amiga... ich fand beide Systeme echt gut, hing aber (ehrlich gesagt) mehr vor dem Amiga...
The Amiga had realtime 4-channel digital audio at a sample rate which could be pushed pretty high (about 30khz) with the right sampling cart. The Amiga tracking software was light-years ahead used effectivly.
Atari was seen as the music machine BUT it was largly for MIDI composors which meant buying all the hardware (drum machines, keyboards, samplers) to be driven. If you were rich, then Atari rocked. But nothing at consumer level matched the Amiga for out-of-the-box. (amiga forever!!)
My first computer (Well, was an Apple II, but)...ahem, the first computer that was MINE-mine, and not anyone else's, was an Amiga 1000 my dad gave me when I was 5. Aside from that...I now have an ST and an STe, with 4MB RAM each, and two Amigas, a 2000HD, and a 500. They both have their weaknesses and strengths. ST boots in a snap. Amiga takes longer to boot, requires a floppy to boot.
well I used win xp - still a good windows but it doesn't support my 8 gbyte ram and the win xp64bit version lacks somehow of drivers.
Anyway, I'm not an OS nazi anymore. Windows works fine for a lot of things but Linux is more free and you can adjust everything you want. And it's free ... so what do you want more (well games and stuff okay ;).
Yeah a friend of mine has about 8 gig of ram in his system as well so as you did, he also had to install Vista for that very reason so that is completely understandable :)
And yeah, i have given up on the this OS is better than that OS debacle. I still don't like Microsoft, never have and probably never will, but there is no point arguing about it unless it truly becomes a problem for you.
Linux is nice, a bitch to use at times but nice because its free, so yep we agree :)
OMG the original song "against" the amiga was much better and funnier. this song is pure bullshit and has no style: no originality, bad copy, no fun - a disgrace 2 the "scene"
Man, I used to get really into these ST/Amiga arguments when I was a kid. I had an ST and thought it looked cooler... there was just something about it.
Plus only rich kids had Amigas, as they cost 100 pounds (uk) more. And everyone knows that rich kids are never as cool as poor kids ;-)
The Amiga was better though, although I'd NEVER admit this at the time!
This the EXACTLY the difference between the ST and Amiga to me. The ST's were cheap. For the money in 1988, our choice was either one of the 8-bits, or the ST. It was the only 16 bit machine in our price range, and it was awesome. A lot of the Amiga kids were snotty little shits, there was almost a cultural gap between us, and I think that is why the war was so passionate and continues today.
*sigh* another dirty illiterate ST troll. STE was too little, too late you unwashed gimp. And Falcon on ST sucked your mom's ass with it's shit sound & jerky graphics. I will simply refer you to Pacmania, Menace, Shadow of the Beast etc etc etc. Why don't you fire up your ST & have a game of Interceptor. Oh, wait.
Pacmania, Shadow of the Beast hehe.. I used to play SOTB between my Calamus and Chronos 3D sessions .. but playing crap games having Audio Sculpture, Notator isnt something I was doing on my STE Mega 2 very often .. Now go back to your Pacmania ..
fcuk I miss my Atari :(
Amiga was nothing more than a gaming console wannabe "home" computer ..
*sigh* you're simply a bitter & twisted ST troll bringing up the MIDI argument in order to position the cheap & nasty 'off the shelf' box of crap that was the ST. The STE was simply an ST with a cheap blitter that nobody used & the sound from a 1987 Casio keyboard. You brought up games as a defence, which was a bad move as you have proven with your inability to defend your position.. Amiga owned ANY ST on graphics & audio straight out the box. That, my unwashed friend, is a fact.
heh Amiga was a pitiful excuse for a gaming console wanna be computer. If you wanted to do something serious you got yourself an Atari TT or an STE with Calamus, Lexicor, Cubase .. not a stinky aschmiga heh
Atari STE trackers owned Amiga as the STE had 50 KHz 16-bit stereo, with RCA outputs, compared to Amiga mono 22 KHz crap 8 bit nothing .. just check Audio Sculpture or Octalyzer .. lewsers ...
We didn't want to be serious, you fucking asshat, we wanted games - which your original defence was built on. I notice you conveniently left out the graphics - toast, anyone? You need to throw in the TT or STE to compete with a bog standard Amiga 500, and even then you're struggling. Then you drag up the MIDI interface again. Yawn. Sad ST lamer. At least you have the satisfaction that the STE was a great success. Oh, wait.
I know nothing about any 16-bit sound mod for the STE, or Audo Sculpture for that matter.
But I do know the STE did not own any Amiga at that time. It was a good upgrade over the STFM but still lacked a lot of what the Amiga had hardware wise.
What? STE and TT owned any Amiga at that time. I owned a 512 STFM, a STE and the MEGA 2 STE. Can you please be more specific and tell all of us what hardware exactly on the Amiga's were "better"? BTW Mega STE could to run at 16 MHz.
About 16 bit sound do a google on this "Atari STE 4 channel DMA sound, supports 16bit modification" and hit the first result
No wonder the Amiga guys have a field day when people like you come onto forums and post this sort of stuff.
STE was lacking:-
Dedicated sound co-processor to take the load away from the CPU. 4 Channel DMA was only good for playing samples at set rates of 12.5, 25 & 50Khz...so no good for in game MOD playing.
Still officially only 16 colours at once unless tricks were employed.
No hardware sprites and a next to useless Blitter...
I owned a STFM and Falcon030, I know what I'm talking about.
Troll? If you truly understood the use of that word in a 'forum' sense, you would clearly see it is you that has been the troll.
I've never spoken anything other than the truth in any of my posts and would rather kill myself than be associated with an argumentative, childish, vulgar, racist, coward like you. I've seen some of your other posts and have had people PM me with stories of your disgraceful threats of violence and words of hatred towards them and their families.
That would be convenient, wouldn't it. That way, illiterate fools like you could post your bullshit with impunity. Why don't you grow a pair, you winging pansy?
Well it would conveniently stop abusive people like yourself commenting on other peoples posts and dragging them into the gutter, due to the excessive use of bad language and violent threats.
Leaving the rest of us to debate in a grown up, adult way.
No. I said 'you must feel pretty safe behind your keyboard'. Which insinuated that the only reason you were mouthing off was because you were sat in safety behind your keyboard and would have no intentions of speaking to someone the way you did, in real life.
Grasping at straws again I see.
Again I will state for the record. I haven't abused, threatened or used excessive profanity to anyone on here. UNLIKE YOU.
Ever heard of freedom of speech, asshole? If you can't stand the heat, don't compete. Obviously, you're still smarting from being fucking owned. Tough shit.
@zarkoasenov Amiga mono sound and 22 khz AJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJ you dont have any idea what you re talking about.Amiga has stereo sound,ocs chip 28 khz ecs and aga 56 khz and 14 bit so, dont say stupid things, and you are comparing the ste and tt released in 1990 with the amiga 500(1987) , jajaja, how clever are you, but compare them to the amiga 3000 (1990) with ecs customchips and 68030 25 mgz , scsi controler , flicker fixer ,pffff ,you should think the things before you open your big mouth.
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Looks suspiciously like Atari was trying to upgrade the machine to get close to the original Amiga. And what a great success it was. Enhanced joypad ports? LOL, you ST freaks will grasp at anything.
The "enhanced joystick ports" were separate, analog ports for analog joysticks. There are mods to plug a PS2 controller in there, and the analog thumb controller works. It was quite a good feature, if it had been used by games it would have been cool.
They were the same ports as on the Jaguar...so they supported the JagPad.
They could support a multitude of controller technology not just analog. They were a good addition but unfortunatley never taken advantage of by commercial software houses.
da gabs dann doch noch das demo (oder nur den song) über den amiga oder??
"Auf dem Müll liegt ein...Amiga. Zünd ihn an, sch++ss doch rein, p+ss doch drauf...das sch++ssding." Sorry, das ist nunmal der original text. hab noch irgendwo die mod-datei
Atari kicked ass back in the days, never really liked Amiga all that much, I mean they we're probably just as good but Atari sparks more feelings from my side, I were no more than 5-6 years old when there computers were popular :)
LOL, You're still going around youtube, hunting down pro-ST people and informing them how much better the Amiga was?
Still, I say the ST is quite a neat little machine. Much faster to get up and running than an Amiga.
However, having acquired two Amigas last week, aside from the fact of having better hardware, they really have a strange charm...Like it demands me to be more artistic and creative...or...at least Deluxe Paint III does. Degas Elite is crap.
He he, as i have said numerous times before, i LOVE the ST and it will forever be number one on my top 10 nostalgic retro computer list. It was my first computer.
But still i can´t think of anything that was better on the ST compared to the Amiga.
TOS is not a proper OS, it´s more like a graphical filebrowser/program launcher, with some GUI/API functionality :P
The first release of Amiga OS was ugly looking, but the core was way ahead
HAHAHA ... I remember the dad of an old friend of mine had an atari back then and we showed him the demo, he didn't really liked it. I can still laugh about this one though, heh.
I had a similar experience where a friends dad would persuasively tell us not to read the messages, from his cracked software, by the PIRATES !, BEWARE KIDS, THE EVIL PIRATES !.
Apparently he was really angry at the intro to "iron man Irvin's off road" where an animated devil is humping an angel, absolute class !. kids don't know what freedom they are missing now a days eh.
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holy smokes, people are still arguing over amiga vs atari st? My goodness, they both were contenders but its over now. There both lost, or at best, superceded and the world moved on without them.
loool the atari ST is shit against amiga. look the clours and the scorlling. the best examples are : SHADOW OF THE BEAS AN GIANA SISTERS. looks and sounds like crap on the ST.
Atari ShiT
slitor 2 months ago
92 Atarifags watched this.
SuperWarioCementleg 3 months ago
Guys relax, the Amiga vs Atari ST fight was alwas a friendly fight, the guys that made this were just kidding and same goes for the ST guys who made Anti Amiga Demo's,
And the War is now 16 years over whats the point ? this video is just here for nostalgia reasons, I had a Amiga (still have it :)) and my best friend had a Atari ST, he always said that the Amiga was for little girls because of the name and the Raster bars while I called his ST the "Atardri ShiT" or "Failcon", good times... :)
janmansde3dede 6 months ago
Ya hear that? Four channels of stereo, digitised sound. No stupid plinky AY chip!
senorverde09 7 months ago
Irgendwie ist der anti Amiga Song um Welten besser ;)
BTW: Damals herschte der Krieg zwischen Atari und Amiga (und beide gegen den PC), heute zwischen X-Box und PS3 (und beide gegen den PC).
Manche Dinge ändern sich einfach nie ;)
BadWolf2200 7 months ago
3 people are ST-fans and 86 don't get whut this vid is about ;-)
nummer333 8 months ago
Funny :)
CodeOrDie 10 months ago
@m134mr yes mate your exactly right
71JOEBLOGGS 10 months ago
Amiga is for gays becouse Amiga can show all rainbow colors.
Tupernaattis 1 year ago
@Tupernaattis typical thing a stupid atari user would say, nothing computer related just plain idiotic and pointless like an ST which cant multi task
ComradeZX 1 year ago
der käse unter den computern = the cheese of all computers
xXbreakfastXx 1 year ago
Atari ST was a good cheap entry to the 16 bit world of Computers. If you liked your Spectrum and defend the honour of that, the this is similar. You can use Atari ST for word processing and practical things too. Many good games for the system, too, you would have fun playing those too. Amiga had better sound and graphics for many games after 1989, great - but so what - really.
dreamcastII 1 year ago
the ST was great (and still is) for midi and fuck all else, end of.
madcapoperator 1 year ago
XD Die Grabenkämpfe sind vorbei. Gewonnen hat wohl keiner...obwohl, doch: Meckersoft. ;)
SarahKreuz78 1 year ago
Very crappy demo,music also
peterkray 1 year ago
I fail to see the hate for Atari.
After all, the Atari ST and Commodore Amiga are intertwined in their histories, as are the companies.
Foebane72 1 year ago
urywało dupę 15 lat temu :)
tezeusz19776 1 year ago
uh well yes, no I mean I'm confused wtf is this O_O
MyDiabolicoTwin 1 year ago
Can someone translate this ?
My greman ist the greatest .
janmansde3dede 1 year ago
LAWL
numbers9to0 1 year ago
The Amiga was more powerful in the graphics and sound sampling department. The OS was amazing and offered multitasking way before any other mainstream machine. The Atari ST on the other hand had a bulit-in MIDI port which made it more interesting for music studios where it found a niche for years even after Atari went bust in 1993.
aceyage 1 year ago 2
@aceyage lol amiga os was garbage. sampling you mean dma sound something that later atari ste models had at 50 KHz you mean? probably beats your sound card you have now on you pc
zarkoasenov 1 year ago
@zarkoasenov EXEC + Trip OS > CP/M 68k + GEM, look it up!
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
St fanboys get a life.there was no st demoscene coz it was shite.
71JOEBLOGGS 1 year ago
There was even a fanboy war going on back then between these 2 computers.amiga ruled though.that st's sound chip was a beepy piece of shit compared to the mighty paula.
71JOEBLOGGS 2 years ago
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zarkoasenov 1 year ago
@71JOEBLOGGS i'm sure the st had the yamaha sound chip that the amstrad cpc computers had!
m134mr 10 months ago
@71JOEBLOGGS
Paula is now living on a council estate with six chav children, and her waistline is starting to rival the size of the house.
EgoShredder 7 months ago
There was a similar song for amiga made by polish musicians. There were few talking samples among which one sound like this (an interviewer asks man on the street in polish ofc):
- Good afternoon, sir. What do you think about Atari?
- Atari? Sorry, I'm not a farmer :)
and many more acids like this
melomonster007 2 years ago
I love "fuckings"
slitor 2 years ago
Amiga forever!
wertstahl 2 years ago
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Amiga was always for gayos ...
r8qt7 2 years ago
Man the Amiga is awesome. ST trolls get on your fuckin knees to the greatness of Amiga.
TheTubeRuler2009 2 years ago
@TheTubeRuler2009
No need because I also have a Falcon 030 ;-) Get on YOUR knees Amiga troll! :-D
EgoShredder 8 months ago
@EgoShredder The Falcon sucks ass. Too little, too late.
MrFlibble2011 7 months ago
amiga pwnz
Aqwert76 2 years ago
the amiga was great computer, designed by the same peaple was designed the Atari 8 Bits Family. by the other side the Atari ST was designed by ex-commodore peaple.
Marcelo00Z 2 years ago 2
i miss the good old amiga times as well :(
iggienator 2 years ago 10
...me too...
:)
toddybody 2 years ago 5
amiga, commodore, atari forever..
w1k 2 years ago 2
AHTAWLEH
vitralizer 2 years ago
Gibts das eigentloich noch irgendwo als MOD oder XM ? ;)
technokultur 2 years ago
can anyone remember the anti atari demo/game for the amiga that was like space invaders ?
I wonder if atari users had a similar anti amiga campaign.
bastardtubeuser 2 years ago
Ach ja, die peinlichen Compikriege der 80er und frühen 90er ... die vermisse ich bestimmt nicht.
HansHackfress 2 years ago
LOL these are ossies (from east germany) ... what morrons
r8qt7 2 years ago
you are all a bnuch of morons
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
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tondaloona2009 2 years ago
man wtf i dont even want to talk about this crap ATARI REIGNED AMIGA. the ST sucked alright but the TT and Mega STE were STANDART equipment in any DTP or music studio.
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
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tondaloona2009 2 years ago
lol, no standard equpment in a recording studio is a microphone.
richardmaudsley77 2 years ago
Why you getting all emotional, the Amiga Vs ST days are long gone and there isn't much point in worrying about it anymore. It was a great time in computing regardless of which machine was better for what :)
blade004 2 years ago 2
Great drum track!!! It's genius! SHows how creative the authors were
tosgem 2 years ago
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get an xbox and stop this pointless nostalgia...its over.
seancooley 2 years ago
Wrong...
It's not over until it's over ...
toddybody 2 years ago 2
"its not over until it's over"
its clearly over....
seancooley 2 years ago
@toddybody haha is right brother, retro all da way.
kreeddem 1 year ago
@toddybody think anyone will remember xbox in 20 years? lol
artoodiitoo 1 year ago 2
@artoodiitoo
No way, dude :)
C64/Amiga.....Legends never die. It´s a law, i think ...... :)
toddybody 1 year ago 7
fuck you, troll
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
without things like the amiga you wouldn't have an xbox to play on today.
markie101uk 2 years ago 2
@seancooley can you program your own games ON an xbox? fuck no
hazzardwantcookies 1 year ago
@seancooley ...an xbox??....u mean PS3....xbox sounds like a vacuum cleaner!!
HAHAHAHAHA
akis231 1 year ago
It's very clear that no effort or creativity was used to make this "demo". The music track is incredibly lame and obviously only made to annoy Atari people. Very bad demonstration of the capabilities of Amiga.
einokeino303 2 years ago
Ich hatte damals beide Systeme (teuer bezahlt mit Ferienjobs als Kind/Jugendlicher). Warum beide? Damals war's ja fast noch "normal", dass jeder Spiele tauschte mit Freunden und so... und manch einer hatte eben einen Atari und der nächste den Amiga... ich fand beide Systeme echt gut, hing aber (ehrlich gesagt) mehr vor dem Amiga...
SlightlyDeath 2 years ago
amiga forever! funny to hear a burp from 20 years ago.
kiekert2007 2 years ago
AMIGA FOR THE WIN
hate4uall 3 years ago
The graphics are just dazzling in this demo! You really gave those Atari people what for!
MazeleyFanClub 3 years ago 3
I had an ST back at the jurassic period...
hanhi 3 years ago 2
The Amiga had realtime 4-channel digital audio at a sample rate which could be pushed pretty high (about 30khz) with the right sampling cart. The Amiga tracking software was light-years ahead used effectivly.
Atari was seen as the music machine BUT it was largly for MIDI composors which meant buying all the hardware (drum machines, keyboards, samplers) to be driven. If you were rich, then Atari rocked. But nothing at consumer level matched the Amiga for out-of-the-box. (amiga forever!!)
SyntaxParty 3 years ago
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zarkoasenov 2 years ago
Aye, this old thing...
My first computer (Well, was an Apple II, but)...ahem, the first computer that was MINE-mine, and not anyone else's, was an Amiga 1000 my dad gave me when I was 5. Aside from that...I now have an ST and an STe, with 4MB RAM each, and two Amigas, a 2000HD, and a 500. They both have their weaknesses and strengths. ST boots in a snap. Amiga takes longer to boot, requires a floppy to boot.
But in the end...
Amigas had better hardware.
Atari STs had better programmers.
AY3EIGHTYNINE10 3 years ago
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Amiga was for gay suckers ... like the people who use Vista or Mac today.
r8qt7 3 years ago
And what were you using? A TRS-80?
AY3EIGHTYNINE10 3 years ago
No. It was worse. That poor retard r8qt7 paid $6000 for a 386, to only do the 1/5 of what the Amiga was capable of.
gerodinis 3 years ago 2
So i guess you are using Linux then?
blade004 2 years ago
most of time time I use Linux only for gaming and proprietary stuff I need to run win 7 (which isn't that bad compared to Vista ^^).
r8qt7 2 years ago
Yeah you are pretty much in the same boat as me except that i use XP and i don't play games anymore.
blade004 2 years ago
well I used win xp - still a good windows but it doesn't support my 8 gbyte ram and the win xp64bit version lacks somehow of drivers.
Anyway, I'm not an OS nazi anymore. Windows works fine for a lot of things but Linux is more free and you can adjust everything you want. And it's free ... so what do you want more (well games and stuff okay ;).
r8qt7 2 years ago
Yeah a friend of mine has about 8 gig of ram in his system as well so as you did, he also had to install Vista for that very reason so that is completely understandable :)
And yeah, i have given up on the this OS is better than that OS debacle. I still don't like Microsoft, never have and probably never will, but there is no point arguing about it unless it truly becomes a problem for you.
Linux is nice, a bitch to use at times but nice because its free, so yep we agree :)
blade004 2 years ago
And i still like games, i just don't have a powerful enough system (2003 specs) plus i don't have the time anyway :(
blade004 2 years ago
OMG the original song "against" the amiga was much better and funnier. this song is pure bullshit and has no style: no originality, bad copy, no fun - a disgrace 2 the "scene"
kinupsi 3 years ago
Erm, but you do know that the "anti-Amiga song" was an anti-PC song done on Amiga before it was modified?
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
amiga rules! no doubt,and you all know it..
rimeligfjern 3 years ago
I wonder if Atari are ever going to revive their console gaming systems since the days of the 2600 ?
GirlsHateMeVeryMuch 3 years ago
LOL 5/5
NeumannAlfred 3 years ago
Man, I used to get really into these ST/Amiga arguments when I was a kid. I had an ST and thought it looked cooler... there was just something about it.
Plus only rich kids had Amigas, as they cost 100 pounds (uk) more. And everyone knows that rich kids are never as cool as poor kids ;-)
The Amiga was better though, although I'd NEVER admit this at the time!
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zarkoasenov 2 years ago
This the EXACTLY the difference between the ST and Amiga to me. The ST's were cheap. For the money in 1988, our choice was either one of the 8-bits, or the ST. It was the only 16 bit machine in our price range, and it was awesome. A lot of the Amiga kids were snotty little shits, there was almost a cultural gap between us, and I think that is why the war was so passionate and continues today.
tosgem 2 years ago
Ah, so you were a fucking skint chav scumbag with no father. Makes sense. My parents were fucking loaded. We're getting to the truth now.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
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Amiga was for gay suckers ... like the people who use Vista or Mac today.
r8qt7 3 years ago
begone, Satan
chiptastic2003 3 years ago
lol Atari STE OWNed any amiga at that time .. and Falcon fcuking burried Amiga ... ATARI RULZ!
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
*sigh* another dirty illiterate ST troll. STE was too little, too late you unwashed gimp. And Falcon on ST sucked your mom's ass with it's shit sound & jerky graphics. I will simply refer you to Pacmania, Menace, Shadow of the Beast etc etc etc. Why don't you fire up your ST & have a game of Interceptor. Oh, wait.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
Pacmania, Shadow of the Beast hehe.. I used to play SOTB between my Calamus and Chronos 3D sessions .. but playing crap games having Audio Sculpture, Notator isnt something I was doing on my STE Mega 2 very often .. Now go back to your Pacmania ..
fcuk I miss my Atari :(
Amiga was nothing more than a gaming console wannabe "home" computer ..
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
*sigh* you're simply a bitter & twisted ST troll bringing up the MIDI argument in order to position the cheap & nasty 'off the shelf' box of crap that was the ST. The STE was simply an ST with a cheap blitter that nobody used & the sound from a 1987 Casio keyboard. You brought up games as a defence, which was a bad move as you have proven with your inability to defend your position.. Amiga owned ANY ST on graphics & audio straight out the box. That, my unwashed friend, is a fact.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
well said.
markie101uk 2 years ago
bless you, Amiga brethren.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
heh Amiga was a pitiful excuse for a gaming console wanna be computer. If you wanted to do something serious you got yourself an Atari TT or an STE with Calamus, Lexicor, Cubase .. not a stinky aschmiga heh
Atari STE trackers owned Amiga as the STE had 50 KHz 16-bit stereo, with RCA outputs, compared to Amiga mono 22 KHz crap 8 bit nothing .. just check Audio Sculpture or Octalyzer .. lewsers ...
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
We didn't want to be serious, you fucking asshat, we wanted games - which your original defence was built on. I notice you conveniently left out the graphics - toast, anyone? You need to throw in the TT or STE to compete with a bog standard Amiga 500, and even then you're struggling. Then you drag up the MIDI interface again. Yawn. Sad ST lamer. At least you have the satisfaction that the STE was a great success. Oh, wait.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago 2
Sorry matey, the STE was still not upto par with the Amiga in regards to games.
STE had 4 channel 8-bit 50Khz, the Falcon had 8 channel 16-bit 50Khz.
Had a Falcon for many years, wish I never sold it now. Totally blew the Amiga 500 & 1200 out of the water.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
and I bet you enjoyed the 3 games that were released for it.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
I never owned an STE so never got the play them.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
you could mod the STE to 16 bit sound .. Audio Sculpture is a tracker that supported 16 bit 50 KHz stereo on the STE ..
it had the blitter chip, 4096 col pallete .. owned any amiga at that time
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
I know nothing about any 16-bit sound mod for the STE, or Audo Sculpture for that matter.
But I do know the STE did not own any Amiga at that time. It was a good upgrade over the STFM but still lacked a lot of what the Amiga had hardware wise.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
What? STE and TT owned any Amiga at that time. I owned a 512 STFM, a STE and the MEGA 2 STE. Can you please be more specific and tell all of us what hardware exactly on the Amiga's were "better"? BTW Mega STE could to run at 16 MHz.
About 16 bit sound do a google on this "Atari STE 4 channel DMA sound, supports 16bit modification" and hit the first result
zarkoasenov 2 years ago
No wonder the Amiga guys have a field day when people like you come onto forums and post this sort of stuff.
STE was lacking:-
Dedicated sound co-processor to take the load away from the CPU. 4 Channel DMA was only good for playing samples at set rates of 12.5, 25 & 50Khz...so no good for in game MOD playing.
Still officially only 16 colours at once unless tricks were employed.
No hardware sprites and a next to useless Blitter...
I owned a STFM and Falcon030, I know what I'm talking about.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
At last, the troll speaks the truth. The Amiga community welcomes you, brethren.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
Troll? If you truly understood the use of that word in a 'forum' sense, you would clearly see it is you that has been the troll.
I've never spoken anything other than the truth in any of my posts and would rather kill myself than be associated with an argumentative, childish, vulgar, racist, coward like you. I've seen some of your other posts and have had people PM me with stories of your disgraceful threats of violence and words of hatred towards them and their families.
Sad old man.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
Another speedy response there, keyboard warrior! Daytime TV must be a bit boring today, eh? You and all your humourless 'friends' can bite me.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
There has been nothing humorous about any of your posts you disgusting excuse of a person.
Just a shame Youtube are too lazy to facilitate a group of administrators to ban people like you who spoil it for the rest of us.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
That would be convenient, wouldn't it. That way, illiterate fools like you could post your bullshit with impunity. Why don't you grow a pair, you winging pansy?
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
Well it would conveniently stop abusive people like yourself commenting on other peoples posts and dragging them into the gutter, due to the excessive use of bad language and violent threats.
Leaving the rest of us to debate in a grown up, adult way.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
What, you mean like asking me if I feel safe behind my keyboard? You're a wanker and a hypocrite. Quite a combination.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
No. I said 'you must feel pretty safe behind your keyboard'. Which insinuated that the only reason you were mouthing off was because you were sat in safety behind your keyboard and would have no intentions of speaking to someone the way you did, in real life.
Grasping at straws again I see.
Again I will state for the record. I haven't abused, threatened or used excessive profanity to anyone on here. UNLIKE YOU.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
lol @ that comment ^ and what 'went on' here ...wow
Those who grew up with the Atari ST - good for them, i'm sure it was a great platform for them.
But I get/got the impression it lived in the shadow of the Amiga as a gaming platform ?
ok so it had better sound chip. but the amiga it seemed was ahead.
t1cTacJ0e 2 years ago
Ever heard of freedom of speech, asshole? If you can't stand the heat, don't compete. Obviously, you're still smarting from being fucking owned. Tough shit.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
Of course I've heard of the freedom of speech. What a ridiculous question.
Owned from what exactly?
EvilFranky 2 years ago
you're a tool. that's the only detail you need.
tondaloona2009 2 years ago
@zarkoasenov Amiga mono sound and 22 khz AJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJJ you dont have any idea what you re talking about.Amiga has stereo sound,ocs chip 28 khz ecs and aga 56 khz and 14 bit so, dont say stupid things, and you are comparing the ste and tt released in 1990 with the amiga 500(1987) , jajaja, how clever are you, but compare them to the amiga 3000 (1990) with ecs customchips and 68030 25 mgz , scsi controler , flicker fixer ,pffff ,you should think the things before you open your big mouth.
hankillo1 1 year ago
You are wrong about the STE specs.
Blitter
Hardware scrolling
4096 Colours
4 channel DMA Sound 8-bit 50Khz
Enhanced Joypad ports
SIMM Memory modules
Just for future reference.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Looks suspiciously like Atari was trying to upgrade the machine to get close to the original Amiga. And what a great success it was. Enhanced joypad ports? LOL, you ST freaks will grasp at anything.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago 2
The "enhanced joystick ports" were separate, analog ports for analog joysticks. There are mods to plug a PS2 controller in there, and the analog thumb controller works. It was quite a good feature, if it had been used by games it would have been cool.
tosgem 2 years ago
They were used by games.
They were the same ports as on the Jaguar...so they supported the JagPad.
They could support a multitude of controller technology not just analog. They were a good addition but unfortunatley never taken advantage of by commercial software houses.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
Not grasping at anything. Just stating the factual differences between the STFM and the STE.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
yeah!!!!
tondaloona2009 2 years ago
I bet your encyclopedic knowledge of STE specs makes you a real hit with ladies. Sad bastard.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
No I'm actually very happy and my parents were married when I was born.
And every weekend women beg me for sex due to my unprecedented understanding of the STE. Life is grand.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
Chatlines don't count, it's not real. They don't really love you.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
They don't?! Please! Say it ain't so!
EvilFranky 2 years ago
I can imagine it comes as a shock.
chiptastic2003 2 years ago
He meant Atari Falcon030 not the game.
Which incidently would have actually been slightly quicker on the ST considering it was a 3D game and the ST had a slightly higher clock speed.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
I'll take the much better sound, textures & smooth graphics over .86mhz speed increase, thanks. ST asshat
chiptastic2003 2 years ago 2
For 2D games yes of course that much is obvious, but clock speed is all important for 3D.
What textures? Are you actually referring to 2D bit planes?
I never can understand what you mean in half of your posts because of how clueless you are.
I think you are more interested in cheap jibes and the way of the keyboard warrior.
EvilFranky 2 years ago
most of the iff-samples were on st-01 :)
videorocker2001 3 years ago
da gabs dann doch noch das demo (oder nur den song) über den amiga oder??
"Auf dem Müll liegt ein...Amiga. Zünd ihn an, sch++ss doch rein, p+ss doch drauf...das sch++ssding." Sorry, das ist nunmal der original text. hab noch irgendwo die mod-datei
samplesmasher 3 years ago
Atari kicked ass back in the days, never really liked Amiga all that much, I mean they we're probably just as good but Atari sparks more feelings from my side, I were no more than 5-6 years old when there computers were popular :)
narki86 3 years ago
Technically the Amiga is superior in every single way (that´s fact). But in the end it isn´t all about which was the technically better one.
The ST is actually a very simple computer, having almost no extra hardware, just enough to get it get it working.
I still have one in my collection, i used to play on it a lot before i bought my Amiga.
Actually, i like the simple blip/blop square waves produced by the PSG, it gives a nice NES fealing to it :)
Ahle2 3 years ago
LOL, You're still going around youtube, hunting down pro-ST people and informing them how much better the Amiga was?
Still, I say the ST is quite a neat little machine. Much faster to get up and running than an Amiga.
However, having acquired two Amigas last week, aside from the fact of having better hardware, they really have a strange charm...Like it demands me to be more artistic and creative...or...at least Deluxe Paint III does. Degas Elite is crap.
AY3EIGHTYNINE10 3 years ago
He he, as i have said numerous times before, i LOVE the ST and it will forever be number one on my top 10 nostalgic retro computer list. It was my first computer.
But still i can´t think of anything that was better on the ST compared to the Amiga.
TOS is not a proper OS, it´s more like a graphical filebrowser/program launcher, with some GUI/API functionality :P
The first release of Amiga OS was ugly looking, but the core was way ahead
Yes, QUBASE was better than anything on the Amiga
Ahle2 3 years ago
damn... atari vs. amiga was the way cooler fight than pc vs. mac... :)
Waldbrand 3 years ago 3
This is pretty lame! Atari rules! Especially the Falcon :-)
viking272 3 years ago
HAHAHA ... I remember the dad of an old friend of mine had an atari back then and we showed him the demo, he didn't really liked it. I can still laugh about this one though, heh.
consoledev 3 years ago
I had a similar experience where a friends dad would persuasively tell us not to read the messages, from his cracked software, by the PIRATES !, BEWARE KIDS, THE EVIL PIRATES !.
Apparently he was really angry at the intro to "iron man Irvin's off road" where an animated devil is humping an angel, absolute class !. kids don't know what freedom they are missing now a days eh.
bastardtubeuser 2 years ago
buahhahah true true :) atari is fucking shit
widmo007 3 years ago
This demo made me LOL so hard!!!! This is totally going to go in my favorites!!!!!!! XD XD XD XD XD
I WILL TOTALLY LEAVE YOU WITH FIVE STARS!!!!! :D
dorkydorkone 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
holy smokes, people are still arguing over amiga vs atari st? My goodness, they both were contenders but its over now. There both lost, or at best, superceded and the world moved on without them.
TangomanX2008 3 years ago
"Somebody must think "what the hell is this?"
but remember: in 1989 it was so cooooool and funny." <- Maybe you should learn to read before you post anything, shithead.
Misthema 3 years ago 4
that song is fucking L3333T
TimRideout 3 years ago 2
LOL
blazer666uk 3 years ago
War between Atari & Amiga users will never stop, even in 21th century :)
btw.. What a retard soundtrack :[
8bitfan 3 years ago 2
Heheh... some demos really sucked balls!
oodatoodat 3 years ago 2
WHAT A DEMO!! ha ha NOT. STe 1024 Rulez
fiswis 3 years ago
You are the one who is realy a losser !!! What's wrong with you?! ... Realy don't get it what you want to say with this "demo"
disagreeofdespair 3 years ago
amiga is the best forever!!!
casprg 3 years ago
Yes! This demo really shows what the Amiga is capable of! Sampled sounds, static text and images and shit. Wow! Just wow! Blew my mind!
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Atari ST forever! ;)
synt4x3rr0r 3 years ago 3
Atari - for losers only
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
Takes one to know one! ;)
synt4x3rr0r 3 years ago
I only quoted the demo :P
Jawattdenn 3 years ago
Just agree with you... :))
disagreeofdespair 3 years ago 2
loool the atari ST is shit against amiga. look the clours and the scorlling. the best examples are : SHADOW OF THE BEAS AN GIANA SISTERS. looks and sounds like crap on the ST.
amiga = father atari = little kid
plasticboy81 3 years ago
atari kicked ass
r8qt7 3 years ago
kann die vll jemand im adf format hochladen
GODPLAwER 3 years ago
Ich war früher(Bin es immer noch!) ein Atari ST-User! Fand früher das Demo nicht so witzig..... Aber jetzt ist es irgendwie cult!!
dreameroz 3 years ago
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh. It sucks!!!!
jenshalen 3 years ago
haha, those were the days.
SpamNapkin 4 years ago
LET THEM HOES KNOW
lissajou 4 years ago
Could somebody please post a download link
for the *.adf ?
Also, if somebody knows where to download the
sound module, please post the link!
HangmanC64 4 years ago
Woooow! Daran kann ich mich erinnern! Bescheuert aber kultig. Danke fürs uploaden!
mingo870 4 years ago
holy shit .. amigaga ..
savlugg 4 years ago
DAAAAANKE! Das wollte ich seit Jahren mal wieder sehen. Unfassbarer Müll, hatte es aber auch auf Disk.
stefansl 4 years ago
im guessing amiga hates atari
yocvbn 4 years ago
These guys totally ripped my style. I created the "sixteen color picture that doesn't move or anything" demo technique in 84 on my c-64!
stickyfox 4 years ago 2