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  • Continued- Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:__ What does that say? In the NAME not NAMES! What is the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost? Its JESUS!! Go to Acts10:48-And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord! What is the name of the Lord? Acts 9:5- And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus! Any questions please ask!!

  • You can also put it this way- Ice is water, Steam is water and water is water but they are all WATER! 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one! Read it yourself better yet STUDY it yourself!

  • @Wisdomized4Christ

    1 John 5:7 is a fraud. It is not in any of the original Greek Manuscripts of the Bible. This verse was first added in Latin Vulgate in support of the false doctrine of the Trinity. Watch our 'God's Only Begotten Son - Part 2' Most modern translations don't have this verse.

  • "I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Savior" (Isaiah 43:3). "Before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the Lord and beside me there is no Savior " (Isaiah 43:10, II). "I am the Lord who maketh all things; who stretcheth forth the heavens alone: who spreadeth abroad the earth by Myself. " (Isaiah 44:24). "I am the Lord and there is none else, there is no God beside me" (Isaiah 45:5).

  • 1 Timothy 3:16 God was made manifest in the flesh.

    John 20:28 - "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

    Isaiah 44:6 - "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me."

    Rev. 1:17-18 - "Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, 18 and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades."

  • @BurningMountin

    God the Son was made manifest in the flesh, not God the Father. Jesus Christ is God becasue He is God the Son, but He is NEVER God the Father.

    It is important to understand that Father God does EVERYTHING through His only begotten Son. Please watch our Part 2 & 3 video in this series. Jesus Christ like His Father is also the First and the Last, but He is a separate Person in the one God Family of Father and Son and always remains subbordinate to His Father.

  • Alright lets get this opinionated doctrine straight. If you actually studied your Bible You would have come across this scripture in John 10:27-30- My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one

  • Continued--Who and the Father are one? Jesus!! It doesn't get any clearer! And lets Remember that Jesus was Emanuel which means God with us!! So quit down grading our Lord Jesus Christ!! If you did a study also you would see God's name is Yahweh, Jehovah, Yeshua -Jesus Christ! They all mean the same in original Greek and Hebrew! Please study before you think you are apt. To teach!! Thank you! God willing and God Bless!! In the name of JESUS CHRIST!! AMEN!!

  • John 14:6 Yeshua said to him, “I AM THE LIVING GOD, The Way and The Truth and The Life; no man comes to my Father but by me alone.”

    This can be found only in Aramaic translations. There is only one God.

  • @BurningMountin "I AM THE LIVING GOD"==>Mat 16:16 Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    Jhn 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    This can be found only in Aramaic translations. There is only one God.==} Jhn 17:3 This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only[monos alone (without a companion) ] true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

  • @GodsPlanForAll Jesus eternally existed as the seed in the body of His eternal Father before Father God begot Him. <==Where is that passage in the bible?

    God the Son who is also Spirit{==Where is that passage in the bible?

  • @TESTINGSPIRITS Also, 6:26 she says "There was a magnificent event in past eternity when Father begot His son".

  • @BurningMountin And where is that passage in the bible?===>Also, 6:26 she says "There was a magnificent event in past eternity when Father begot His son".

  • @TESTINGSPIRITS

    You say that you believe in a created Jesus, and that He is a man like us. This is similar to Anthony Buzzard's belief.

    I believe, that Jesus pre-existed as the Son of God before He existed as the Son of Man through His virgin birth. 1 Jn 4:9 confirms this truth.

    Jesus is Spirit because His Father is Spirit. Jesus was BEGOTTEN of His Father God - not created.

    Where does it say in the bible that Jesus was created?

  • @GodsPlanForAll 1 - Here is what I said==} The Father alone possesses eternality and his son was born(made) he doesn't possess eternality. And no I'm not associated with Anthony Buzzard's belief in any way. I believe the One, was all that was, He alone was One, there was nothing with the One(Isa 43:10). Jesus is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

  • @GodsPlanForAll 2 - "Col 1:15"

    Transliteration: prototokos

    Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)

    Short Definition: first-born

    Definition: first-born, eldest.

    4416 prōtótokos (from 4413 /prṓtos, "first, pre-eminent" and 5088 /tíktō, "bring forth") – properly, first in time; hence, pre-eminent.

    from prótos and tokos (childbirth, offspring); from tiktó

  • @GodsPlanForAll 3 - God the Father has no beginning nor ending He can't be begotten nor can he cease to be(die), only a creature can be begotten and die. God the Father isn't a creation nor part of it, Jesus is a creation and part of it.

  • @GodsPlanForAll 4 - =====Jesus is Spirit because His Father is Spirit.==>Luk 24:39 See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have."

  • @GodsPlanForAll 5 - =====Jesus was BEGOTTEN of His Father God - not created.===>Jhn 1:14 And the Word was made(ginomai) flesh.. 3 All things were made(ginomai) through(dia) Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

    Hbr 1:2..through(dia) whom(Son) also He(Father)==> made(poieō to make) the worlds; "As God the Father made(ginomai) all things through(dia) him(Jhn 1:3), so He made(ginomai) the word flesh.(Jhn 1:14)

    

  • @TESTINGSPIRITS

    John 1:14 says that the Word BECAME flesh. This is the correct meaning of the Greek word ginomai. See Strong's G1096. Yes, the only Begotten Son of God became flesh for him to die on the cross for the salvation of the whole world. Luke 24:39 simply confirms that Jesus became flesh.

    Jesus pre-existed as the Son of God before He became flesh? (1 Joh 4:9) Jesus was NOT made, He was BEGOTTEN of His Father God who is Spirit. Spirit begets Spirit, not flesh.

  • @GodsPlanForAll Made and became( ginomai) have the same meaning it depends on how one wants to tailor it to one's belief system.

    Begotten, born, made, became, all denote creation not eternality. So Jesus has always been God's son from the beginning of his birth as a spirit devested of his begotten glory to become one of Us a mortal man died on the cross for our sins received immortality by his Father, God.

  • @TESTINGSPIRITS

    Do you accept that Jesus Christ pre-existed as the only begotten Son of God before He existed as the Son of Man through His virgin birth? 1 John 4:9

  • @GodsPlanForAll Yes, Jesus was the only son firstborn before all things.

  • @TESTINGSPIRITS

    Great, Jesus was the only son firstborn(begotten) before all things. Was Jesus born Spirit like His Father God?

  • @GodsPlanForAll =======Luke 24:39 simply confirms that Jesus became flesh. <===According to you but not God, He has declared his son to be a man forever and not a spirit. "Read==} 1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God and one Mediator between God and men, [the] Man(Not Spirit) Christ Jesus,

  • @GodsPlanForAll 6 - Where does it say in the bible that Jesus was created? {== I never said such words it's you who made those allegations, I only use biblical words.

  • The BIBLE IS MARK OF THE BEAST

    Constantine the first beast compiled 50 bibles, legalized Christianity and set up the false prophet (pope). King James the second beast, born 6/1566, 6th of Scotland, homo, authorized 66 book bible in 1611 to control the people with, an image of God's word they make to speak (the bible says). They carry it in their hand and memorize it in their head.

  • @BIBLEisMARKofBEAST """to control the people with, an image of God's word they make to speak (the bible says).""" Liar.

  • @BurningMountin The bible is an idol, it was compiled by Constantine and authorized by King James. Constantine was a sungod worshiper and king James a homosexual. God doesn't use people like that in His kingdom. You can read the bible and know ABOUT Jesus, like reading a history book you can know about George Washington or Napoleon, but you cannot KNOW them. To KNOW Jesus you must have the Holy Ghost.

    THE BIBLE IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

  • John 10:30 “I and my Father, We are One.”

  • @BurningMountin

    John 10:30 does not prove the Trinity. They are not co-equal. As Jesus says in John 10:29, that His Father is greater than ALL which includes Jesus. Jesus confirms this in John 14:28 that His Father is greater than him.

    Also when Jesus says ' I and My Father are One', He means that they are of one mind and purpose. See John 17:20 where Jesus says that His disciples are also ONE with Him and the Father.

  • @GodsPlanForAll Trinity is just a word. I believe there is only one God. In your video you stated that you believe Jesus was a spiritual seed birthed by God in a magnificent event in past eternity, and is also subordinate to God.

  • @BurningMountin

    There is only one true God (John 17:3) who is Father God and there is only one true Son of God, who is Jesus. The Bible says in 1 John 4:9 that Father God sent His only BEGOTTEN Son into the world. To beget means to give birth to. So the question is when did Father God beget His Son? Since Father God created EVERYTHING through His Son ( Col 1:16), then Father God must have begotten His Son before He created the heavens and the earth.

  • Also......

    (Aramiac) 1 John 14 And The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory *AS OF* The Only Begotten of The Father, full of grace and truth.

  • John 1:11 (Aramaic) In the *origin* (NOT *beginning* like all other translations say) The Word had been existing and That Word had been existing with God and That Word was himself God. 2This One himself was at the origin with God. 3Everything was in his hand, and without him not even one thing existed of the things that existed.

    Jesus did NOT have a beginning. That is just your opinion.

  • @BurningMountin

    'Beginning' not 'origin' is the correct translation of the Greek word arche in John 1:1. 'Origin' contradicts John 1:3, and Col 1:16. Father God made everything THROUGH Jesus (the Word). Father God is the Origin of everything not His Son.

    John 1:14 - Yes, the Word, the only begotten Son of God became flesh. It wasn't Father God who became flesh. Please note the Word was begotten meaning He was birthed, and therefore had a beginning.

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  • "Valentinus, the leader of a sect, was the first to devise the notion of three subsistent entities (hypostases), in a work that he entitled On the Three Natures. For, he devised the notion of three subsistent entities and three persons — father, son, and holy spirit."

    Marcellus of Ancyra

    so basically the terminology of the Trinity is of Gnostic origin...I think it was Tertullian who first used the term "Trinitas" in a Christian context but his version differs from the modern

  • "Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God... These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato."

    Marcellus of Ancyra

  • @stupaod

    Thank you for this information. One thing we can be sure is that The Trinity is an unbiblical doctrine.

  • the only way to be in gods kingdom is to live like jesus.

  • Psalms 2:7 : "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee"

    King David was also Begotten,that makes Jesus the 2nd Begotten,not ONLY isn't it?

  • @MsSoysauce67

    Psalm 2 has Messianic implications. Verses 7-12 apply to Jesus Christ not to King David.

  • Regarding the trinity...study Genesis 1:1-3, Isaiah 48:16, John 15:26, Matt 28:19, Rev 1:8. Read Psalm 2...a three way conversation with the HS, JC and the father in that order. Also, who was it that spoke to Moses from the burning bush? Who did he call himself?....I AM. Fast track to John 8:58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" Why did they crucify him? Because of this...HE CLAIMED TO BE GOD. They knew what he was talking about even if you don't!

  • @Triple7Reviews 32

    JOHN 10

    32;Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

    33;The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself god.

    34;Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

    (compare with Psalms 82:6)

    in those passages,Jesus was not claiming to be God but as

    God's children.Jews called Godly people as gods

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  • Trinity is a teaching of pagans and not the teaching of the bible.

    Colossians 1:15 Jesus is the first born of all creation (Jesus have a pre-existence before he come to earth.)

    Revelation 3:14 the beginning of the creation of God.

    Matthew 7:21 Jesus refers Jehovah as his Father,thus they are distinct and two personality.

    God's name is given to all of us..in Psalms 83:18 that people may know that you,whose name is Jehovah,you alone are the Most High over all the earth.

    

  • matt 28:19 "go then,to all persons everywhere,baptize them in the name of the father anf of the son and of the holy spirit."Jhon 10:30 "the Father and I are one" Titus 2:13"as we wait for the blessed day we hope for,when the glory of our GREAT GOD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST will appear." Acts 5:3-4 "Ananias,why did you let Satan take control of you and AND LIE TO THE HOLY SPIRIT?...YOU HAVE NOT LIED TO PEOPLE YOU HAVE LIED TO GOD!"

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