Koyunbaba IV played by Carlo Domeniconi

[NatchzeuS]

hindibaba hindibaba söyle bana babalaa gelll selam ver

[MrGonxta]

çok begendim gurur duyulacak bir parça teşekkür ederim

[kome6ever]

çok güzel bir parça gurur duyuyorum

[mangore623]

Lovely: like a cross between someone shooting crows with a rifle and a jack hammer tearing up pavement. Brilliant (heavy sarcasm) writing.

[CarlosMacMartin]

I watched one of Carlo's German student named Martin Pramanik play a recital for the SFCGS back in 1997.It was the first time I heard Domeniconi's music and I've been hooked ever since.I had to buy Martin's CD after the recital.Look him up

here and watch his interpretation of Koyunbaba.

[minnesotabongo]

Very interesting! What tuning are you using?

[0AZ909]

Domeniconi is a remarkable composer and he brings something new and beautiful in the classical guitar style.

I like very much !

Odette

[rikafa]

the most awesome guitar piece of music!!! Search for Antigoni Goni performance on Naxos cd.

[cuevatm]

Maestro..

[Thalesschuster]

er ist der meister .. der ein zigste .

[delameu]

i'm not sure he understood the piece and the composer's intent

[benbmusic88]

@delameu LOL he IS the composer!!!! He wrote this piece!!

[delameu]

@benbmusic88 thats the funny part

[EyesShutEarsWideOpen]

@benbmusic88 exactly! cant people read it is played BY Carlo Domenico? No matter what, unless he thinks he played it bad, this is how the composer wanted it to be played... also, not bad for someone who for long sections of the piece isnt even looking at the fretboard. big Kudos to this guy for writing such an amazing piece.

[Sleyt707]

he might not be that good because how old he is, like it being hard for him to push down the frets

[1snuggles1]

awesome! do you have the other parts? or just 3 and 4?

[BlackDreamGuitar]

no matter wether you play the song perfectly or not, the most important thing is to transfer the feelings to the public

[cevdetkurucay]

Horasan'dan Muğla'ya Koyunbaba

Teşekkürler Carlo Domeniconi...

[bouse888]

Wow.

[classicalfede]

Who cares about some flubbed notes? Even the great masters of guitar miss, but that doesn't make them better or worse musicians.

This is the most expressive and powerful performance of this piece I've ever heard.

[Abs0lutGuitar]

Should listen to Aniello Desiderio's performance of this entire piece... also very powerful.

[GeorgeSpan]

Great, just great.

[Aurelius27x]

Li Jie is a robot. But a good one.

[classicalfede]

15 people like Justin Bieber.

[dustinjonesguitarist]

He didn't follow the written score at all... then again, he IS the composer of the piece - he can do whatever he wants.



[classicalguitargirl]

This performance is wonderful not for the technical merits but rather for the emotional impact of this modern piece. He speaks to us through the story of Koyunbaba. The pacing and the varying tempos all make the piece more interesting and demonstrate that there is so much more to playing this piece than moving quickly precisely through the music score.

[inMYtimeOFneed92]

omg everyone here saying that LiJie is better then him is completely fucking retard

[TheAbbrechen]

its amazing

wonderful

and thanks for upload

[Cerebralcinema]

14 people like to eat cardboard.

[tWiLiGhiNa1995]

What an horrible sound. Nothing to do with Li Jie's performance, but anyway... He's the composer, so lot of respect! ;)

[nzmsahin]

Li Jie is singing a much more beautiful.

[DeimosGT]

A few months back I thought Lie JIe's performance was better, but now I think this is the best performance of Koyunbaba. missing a few notes doesn't matter. The musicality is the most important thing in a performance. Carlo is the composer is he knows exactly how to play.

[juanxian]

lie jie is by far the best



[Truth0420]

From 2:39 to 2:48 it's like he remembered he was on Earth. He should have kept his head down...good lesson for you golfer's as well! Peace!

[Truth0420]

You have to give the guy credit for writing the song but, in my opinion, Aniello Desiderio's version is supreme!

[reddragon9918]

@Truth0420 I think Aniello Desiderio doesn't play with nearly enough expression though

[TrustNooooo1]

awesome! finally right dynamic balance, tempo the touch. Carlo is the best!

[RussianFabjan]

SUPERB !!!!  One of the best perfomance i ever heard with this wonderful composition. So expressive.

[MrGiuseppeParisi]

Maybe some notes are not clean but the perfection of the execution is nothing compared to the feelings and the passion he conveys with his playing, facial expressions and variations in tempo and volume.

I'm proud to be Italian :oP

[susalancito]

una gran piesa de guitarra la tecnica para tocarla debe ser depurada y excelente claro si quieres que tu version trascienda

[Asfrandi]

@susalancito it's not so difficult as you think...i think that interpratetion is the difficulty of Koyunbaba...you have to create the good atmosphere...you could have the most incredible tecnique of the world but if you haven't got the idea of what to say with the piece, it's meanless

[susalancito]

@Asfrandi ja ja crees que no se de lo que estoy hablando una gran obra artistica implica la mayor dificultad en la inerpretacion las partituras solo te dan el 10% de la pieza la verdadera dificultad esta en la pasion pero el estudio va de la mano a menos que fernando sor solo perdiera el tiempo con sus estudios

[YourTurkishLORD]

IL GRANDE PADRONE !

Skill , talent and technique with a great SOUL !

A masterpiece from a MASTER !

Hail my master!

[DudeYouRockOn]

ITALIAN PROUD

[deutschluz]

so what exactly is he doing? is he tremolo picking on the first string and he's alternating hammerons on the 2nd and 3rd string? I ve seen tabs of this but none including the tremolo. I m pretty sure the hammerons are the reason he's squeeking so much. but if I m seeing it correctly, he also does hammer-ons on the first string? over the tremolo picking?

Thats pretty original!

[puteolano77]

Insuperabile........!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!

[MrCuratoloni]

come esecutore ci sarà qualcuno più bravo di lui,ma come compositore è eccezionale in qualità e quantità, un vero Prometeo dei tempi moderni... di lui viene diffuso l'1% della sua opera, ma se si approfondisce meglio intorno alla sua figura ci si accorge che si ha a che fare con un uomo di profonda sensibilità e di una cultura impressionante, uno che vola dove volano le aquile...

[tangodancer1000]

guitar is tuned in C#Minor for this piece

[tangodancer1000]

guitar is tuned in C#Minor fot this piece

[djlouie28]

no doubt he's a good composer, but christopher parkening's performance is muuuuch better, too bad there's no video of him playing it

[RickLemus]

To me, it is an excellent performance. It is very aspiring. Some notes are not very clear, but so what. Feeling is the important thing.

[MishuTaste]

This the first time I've heard Carlo play.

[MissFoxGirl13]

You unknowing people..!

Carlo is one of the most interesting, nicest and funniest people I ever met...! I know him so long time... and he's great! His music is fantastic... and nobody can play this composition (and all the others) with the same feeling and emanation like Carlo!

One of the greatest guitar players!

[luisfcoliveira]

you fools

he composed this piece means: even if you do not like him as the best intrepret of this composition, you must acknowledge that he is passing through alot of meanings of the it, so even the best interpret must learn from this concert, watch the master and learn

i agree that maybe someone else can express it better than the own compositor but, not without studying this;

impossible

this is turkish folk, beauty, agony, angst and intolerance;

you cant simply learn that

only embracing it

[thgreatmizudi]

BEAST

[odin2free]

i believe that even though it might be scratchy, his transitions are dead on and so smooth, there's no noticeable gaping, partly due to the music hall itself but it still is so loud and streamline.

[YourTurkishMaster]

Talent! Grand Master ! great improvisational masterpiece.

[EarlLedden]

Carlo, that was GREAT! What else you got?

Just kidding; I can't imagine topping this masterpiece. Imaginative and haunting, yet very beautiful. Nothing like it,and it's great to hear you play it as you intended it to be played. Earl Ledden

[murilonightmare]

I don't understand the point of people that argue that other guitar players play this piece better that Carlos. he's the composer, the one that own the idea and feeling about this song. in other hand you see SOO skilled players like lijie, john williams, x. fang playing lot's of masterpieces, but have they ever composed a song?

sorry to say, but i don't see any vantage playing so skilled if u cannot express anything of your own

[asongnadance]

@murilonightmare You won't buy a ticket to watch the basketball inventor's ball game, would you?

[murilonightmare]

@asongnadance Maybe I was too strict with my point of view, but what i want to say is that i give more value to the composer than the interpreter in this ocation

[dbmam3]

@murilonightmare Well, 1) many of the worlds greatest musical terrains have already been breached by past musicians, there's no way we can top the brilliance already on the table. Though these players you've named have personal compositions, but that's just not what they're known for. 2) Why play your own stuff if even better stuff is available? Haha.

[nihonjin84]

@murilonightmare Still appreciate other guitar players renditions of this song more, Every song you play, if you're a musician, you express imo :)

[campanelaz]

search for

Carlo Domeniconi - Koyunbaba 1-2

Carlo Domeniconi - Koyunbaba 3-4

an older video where Maestro Carlo plays Koyunbaba completely

[kantorovich1]

карло! а мне неважно ваше исполнение. важно, что я могу видеть и слышать автора гениального произведения, которое встанет и уже встало в ряд самых известных и самых лучших произведений для гитары. вы гений и этим все сказано!!!!!!!!!!

[mackbeth242007]

ahiiiiiiiii calambreeee

[piyomer]

2 yıl önce Aksanat' da dinledim kendisini, teknik olarak çok gerilemiş benim için tam bir hayal kırıklığıydı o konser... ama burda gayet iyi tekniği...efsane beste..

[nycbarca]

love it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[stefanomasera]

grande musicalità, mi piace l'effetto nella parte centrale, mi piacerebbe vedere la tecnica della mano destra.........

[2HHammer]

this is awesome! It was first an improvisation, and later on he took that idea and made this song. Koyunbaba is a place in the southwest region of Turkey. They named that place after a revered religiuos man or priest who lived in the area. He shows you how to play some guitar dude! No doubt best version, played by the man himself !! too bad there's some parts missing from this concert... =(

[AvidiaNirvana]

Astounding!

[2HHammer]

Man ... I've seen many great interpretations of this piece, all wonderful, flawless ... some perfect ... but NONE better ... this is the VERSION you guys ... played by the artist himself ... without a doubt also the one with most feeling ... there's no point in arguing about it ... period. If you think otherwise ... you are just wrong, it's ok ... anyone can make a mistake, you are forgiven ... =)

[metalanarchist666]

he misses a few notes,but he plays with emotion because this is his own song

and expresses him.Yes there are better guitarist than him but they lack on

emotion

and don t forget that music is emotion because music expresses emotions.I wish i could write a song like that!!

[Artaxbozzim]

. I know Carlo Domeniconi (as author).

I never heard him play before now, Indeed, I believe this part, speaking as a musician, and not as a performer is deep and palpable intensity

Omit some notes here and there, compared to the score, but the score was written by him, or not? But what do I care ...

I say, believe, its intensity moves me to the verge of tears, and tears fell really.

He composed the song, the heart is running with technical, communication-

But what can you ask for?

[jazzadellic]

You have to consider that technically perfect instrumental virtuosos are about a dime a dozen, but high level guitar players who also compose amazing music like this are extremely rare. I'd gladly trade 100 classical guitar virtuosos (who just play other peoples music) for one more Carlo in the world.

[what567]

Sure he misses a few notes here and there, but he plays this with more musicality than I have heard from anyone else aside from perhaps Antigoni. Who cares about a few dropped notes when you're dealing with this level of expression and understanding?

[spruceorcedar]

WELL SAID

[zadigjaja]

@what567 he plays pretty bad whether he is carlo Domeniconi or not does not change this fact. I still respect him but this sounds pretty bad.

[what567]

I never said that him being the composer changed anything about the way he played, so leave out the bullshit strawmen. If all you listen for in a performance is note accuracy, then no, it wasn't the best performance ever. But there is much more to music than simply hitting the notes.

[zadigjaja]

@what567 of course there is much more to simply hitting the notes. he not only cannot hit the notes correctly in this performance, he misses the beauty of the piece as well so leave out the bullshit strawmen as well. I never said simply hitting notes is enough. I donot see why people are not respecting other's opinions. whether you like it not, his performance is very bad in my opinion.

[bananapeelificationz]

Check out Pablo Sainz Villegas's version. Its in facebook.. In his fan page.

[Mekaneris]

@what567 i completly agree with you. And it's much more difficult to play in front of thousands of people than in a quiet studio.

[classicalfede]

@what567 Absolutely.

[PeterGreen96]

@what567 you can check my vids ;)

[asongnadance]

Great guitar composer; but he cannot play as good :). Cannot ask Verdi to sing, can we? LOL.

[stehell666]

@asongnadance ofcourse, u can play better than him (: he's awesome composer ... u are right, not the best guitar player on the world - but still great player (:

[Curatica]

@asongnadance Domeniconi is certainly not a great stage performer but it is always enlightening to hear the composers playing their own pieces whenever they can. However, more often than not, composers of instrumental music have also been great performers: Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Paganini, to mention just the super-famous. And Barrios, of course...

[realmadridvideos]

People who say he cant play are complete waste of space and beyond any possibilities of ever being happy.

[philalaine]

@asongnadance I don't agree with you. I think nobody can play that guitar master piece with more intensity and contrast except maybe Edin Karamazov on his lute. Energy seems to be the most important for him. It is not the classical vision of music. There is something dionysiac in his interpretation. I love that.

[LUCICAGNOLO]

lui è autore ed anche esecutore,non lo sapevo,cmq si vede che come esecutore lascia a desiderare.

[redroxguitarist]

According to my musical dictionary, mosso means 'agitated' or 'moved'. In the score that I have, there are no indications of tempo, but the mood of many of the parts seems to dictate a faster or slower pace. You can also take a cue from the composer himself in this clip. How would he have played a certain passage?

[liamstoaster]

Aha! I knew I'd find a Domeniconi recording of this eventually...

I read a comment by him about this piece; he complained that people played it verbatim too much, where his idea was a semi-improvisational framework. Interesting to hear his own interpretation of it. Thanks for posting this; probably would have been ages before I found it otherwise.

[human20freedom]

david gilmour is better than him....!!!!! hohohoho

[angusyoung321123]

@human20freedom

i agree, but they play such different styles that you really can't compare the 2

[kikkarose]

domeniconi ti voglio bene..

[jeffreykevinguitar]

can anyone temme what guitar is this...?

[MelasChupa]

THis is amazing. I want to hear him play the second movement, because Im not sure what 'mosso' means as a tempo indicator.

[angusyoung321123]

all the movements are on here, you just gotta look

[gbrinch]

This man is a total legend! I once had the luck of improvising together with him one evening after a concert in Hamburg and it was like his genius could travel - I found I played better than ver in my life before - I also took masterclasses in composition with him and I am still learning from them 20 years later! Gregers Brinch

[elmonovillarreal]

este man fue el q invento esdta vaina wao

[sologuitardeath]

gnar

[ralmara]

Carlo Domeniconi is fantastic, i love the way he improvise on his pieces.

the best guitar composer in world

[maximusdudeus]

I think he is trying to emulate playing a saz, which on guitar is an extremely difficult thing to do.

Personally I think this version is much more emotional than many others found on youtube.

[DJSmithGuitar]

plus this is really hard to play

[DJSmithGuitar]

i know composers who cant play their own music well

[Orange1117]

But fortunately that's not Maestro Carlo's case =D

[classical193]

i think everyone has bad performances but on this one its like he was half drunk

[RtasVadumeeKostas]

No he he feels what hes playing

[soultion]

Allahsız !!!

[0AZ909]

After reading comments of different listeners, I give you my opinion:

I think other good artists that the composer are able to play as well as himself. But they play a few differently, because their own sensibility, their own personnality, and others caracters necessarly !

Andyou, from two good versions of the same piece, you may prefer one version to another. It's your right!

This Video is ,for me, excellent !

I like very much this music !

Faithfully, Odette.

[globule200]

Totally agree with you Odette =)

[Orange1117]

hey, does anyone know where can I find a video of the whole piece (played by domeniconi, of course)?? thanks a lot!!

[zydricpurdy]

i just craped my pants

[Serenjexroad]

Fucking Awesome!

[Fabukles]

@ sleeplessingc:

I don't agree with you. First, it's always something really particular, having the composer playing his own piece. It's the same with Roland Dyens playing Tango en Skai: When you hear him playing you think you feel it's the way this music was meant to be played and all other interpretations are wrong. I think Domeniconi himself would not people like to think that he is the only one who plays Koyunbaba the right way. He surely didn't write the piece only for himself.

[oceanussytx]

Soul of the Anatolia came back to life !

[sleeplessingc]

listen closely and you can hear the muse at its source. At the risk of sounding silly he mastered this out of his own creativity and molded it into one of the most beloved guitar pieces ever. Li jie shows her admiration by learning to play it. I am certain she would love to have a few lessons from maestro... I know i would.......

[sleeplessingc]

look guys; Li Jie is talented. but this is maestro Domineconi himself. He composed this. her interpretation of this is merely that of a student. You are admiring her ability to play, which is world class. She did not compose Koyunbaba. Maestro dominiconi did.

[danyli854]

Klasse Stück.......

[abdurrahmanbey]

Hey jóvenes,if you want learn koyun baba;

Translate to englesh; Domeniconinin Koyunbaba''gitar solosu dünya gitar repertuarında aynen bu isimle yer almıştır. Eşi Türk olan Besteci ve gitarcı Domeniconi, Bodrumda bir sahil köyünde tatil yapmaktayken oradaki bir yatırın adından esinlenmiş, beste yapmış ve esere aynı ismi vermiştir. Üstelik, gitarın kalın iki telini bağlama akordu yapmıştır. Dinlerken bağlama tınıları duyulmaktadır.

[rojarosoud]

Most moving!

Does anybody have Part I and Part II played by Domeniconi himself?

[scarletnotes]

Witness the miracle folks, the true genius playing his best peace in most fabolous way! This is not robotic precise and 100% clean like some other guitarist are playing but its passion and improvisation raise this performance above others.

[D0ug16]

If you're referring to Li Jie's performance, I am sorry so inform you that she is not a robot. She simply has such a technical mastery of the guitar that an intense level of focus is required to wield the instrument as she does. She plays it musically, as do other guitarists here on Youtube.

[tranzenic]

Li's fourth movement is mechanically precise but soulless. It felt like musical science rather than musical interpretation. Although the mastery of techniques is appreciated but it is the music that needs to be communicated not the musical score.

[eschelar]

I completely agree with Doug. Li Jie's is one of the best out there. The intensity that she manages in the last 3 minutes is absolutely riveting. Listen with your eyes closed.

Carlo's fingers obviously don't respond perfectly to what is going on in his brain. The value of this though is that we still get a strong flavor of what is going on in his brain as he plays it.

He's a composer, not a performer. He doesn't have to be both. The expression in his composition is more than any performance.

[tranzenic]

Yes, like you said, "The expression is his composition is more than any performance."

It's only too bad that Li Jie didn't bring out that expression in his composition despite how scientifically precise she is in hitting every notes on the score.

[eschelar]

You said, and removed, "I'm sorry who are you? And why do I care about what you think?"

Who am I? I'm another YT listener. Who the fkk are you? Oh, right. You are also a YT listener.

I find the 4th movement played by Li Jie to be particularly intense. I think this because I listen to the music very, very carefully.

Why would you care what I think? You don't have to. But you put your opinion up. Clearly you feel that what you have to say is valid to be read by others. That goes both ways.

[thejugglenaut91]

i'll tell you this: no she doesn't. she IS a robot!

[eschelar]

Either something wrong with your ears or something wrong with your brain.

You clearly have no clue.

[tranzenic]

Inform??? You're no one to inform me or anyone here anything. It is only your opinion that she is not a robot. Your opinion may or may not mean crap to me or anyone.

Now her technical mastery, intense focus, etc. is all wonderful but it all comes down to communicating a message to audience through a medium - music. Unfortunately the thing she communicated wasn't quite music but more like spitting "the musical score" into audiences' ear.

[eschelar]

Who are you talking to? I never used the word 'inform', nor did anyone else.

If it is my 'opinion' that she is not a robot, of course it means nothing to anyone. This is Youtube, not the Royal Academy of Music.

But the same applies to your opinion that she is a robot.

It certainly wasn't hard for me to hear her personal style just by listening to it a few times, so I don't know why you would assume that anything else would be required to appreciate that she isn't just 'spitting score'.

[froodgoose]

admittedly a little bit rough in some bits... but hey he wrote the piece so we will forgive him... plus the 'feeling' and way he played it, all the emotion was fantastic

[amatis09]

suprem interpretation of koyunbaba....

[deepestrick]

i can play but hes better

[Owenthebaboonhunter]

This guy is wicked and whoever leaves a bad coment think twice and try to play this then you can critic

[nycguitaronline]

I'm sure some people will post on here a negative remark about the tone. Classical guitarists are a little sad in that respect. It is not all about tone. It is about passion and imagination.  Something players like Bruce Holtzmann, Jason Vieaux, and Li Ji will never understand but that Roland Dyens, Leo Brouwer and Domeniconi understand very well.

[GinoTheSinner]

some kind of genius. this song is so epic. a timeless journey in dark arabion nights and also rich forests, so exotic.

[deouwehoer]

For me the imagination is: A lonely man/ shepherd in the middle of nowhere somewhere in the anatolian landscape looking to the landscape or maybe his village while the sky is getting dark. Or maybe the villahe is haunted. That kind of feeling. The notes are for me almost the reflection of the sheepsbells which are ringing because the sheeps are moving. Koyun baba means litteraly the father of the sheeps or shepherd

But its cool the discuss about the diffrent interpretations

[derinmavi000]

TRT 2 olmasına neden bu kadar şaşırıyorsunuz onu anlamadım. bu kanal çıkışından buna bale, opera, klasik, sanat ve halk müziği yayını saten yapıyordu.

[koyteSSS]

domeniconi is a genius

[Ti1To3SaN5Ta7Na9]

trt2 yi görünce tüğlerim diken diken oldu valla :)

[ShitWhitMont]

Wow ; I ve never seen such a programme on TRT*2 which is one of the worst TV channels ever in TR ..I believe the only reason for that is the current goverment and their policy technique.

[derinmavi000]

trt2 always brocasts these types of music ever since, i think u havent watched trt2 before this government. coz the government in Turkey is againist to art..

[dumisedodan]

The most technical version that I've seen, but other versions have more feeling, like Li Jie's.

[capnpayne]

He wrote this piece dude

[granvals159]

it's interesting to listen to different versions of this piece, and this is definitely the version to compare them to. i love li jie's version, but only domeniconi knows what this song really means, and therefore knows what it should really sound like.

[ricointx]

Yep. He knows exactly where to make mistakes :-)

[rudyrg64]

OHHHH MYYY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so ilitarate that the only word i can find to describe this ride is ORGASMIC!!!!!!!!!!! dam this is good!!!!

[thosedreams]

better than the best out there ...

[MarcoOSP]

Yeah!!! I've heard maestro Domeniconi in Poland some years ago.... When he plays the God steps down to Earth!! And not only in Koyion baba..

[jerseyguy542]

Hi Ben, It's Seth from NJ!

Do you realize it's the composer of the piece playing it! Listen to the feeling that is in this performance, the creative energy!

And it's not really out of tune.

[thosedreams]

you said it !

[Fluribupsiquico]

I think Ben might be joking...

[Benfrist]

You play well but I think your guitar might be out of tune.

[Jitpring]

It's a scordatura tuning.

[ARANJUEZCM]

AWESOME!!!

Thank you for posting. Hope to hear part I and II of Koyunbaba by you as well.

Happy New Year - 2009

[akwjdgns]

Sorry, I don't have part 1,2... I hope to hear other part too. Happy New Year!!