At 6:13 it looks like he taps 2 Fetid Heath to play Bitterblossom. Last I checked 2 Fetid Heath could only produce 2 colorless mana without another mana source helping out.
@Slayer89 i've answered this several times. He took a terrible shortcut to play that turn. The mana works out with all the spells he cast, but we didn't clarify that during the filming.
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gee u gotta play land to make sure u can go turn 2 leech but what he doesnt relize that if ur running terminate that u need the swamp down and u still got mana for the leech
@IWillSurvive666 at this stage in the format vs BW Tokens there wasnt much of a threat on Turn 2. I would agree that it would be a better play to lead with swamp, but using the term Moron is quite rude and insulting. I would never go onto your channel and insult you in that way.
@IWillSurvive666 i dont understand this arguement he didnt have the leech in hand, and he wasnt going to turn 2 terminate, no real threats for it atm. so doenst matter what land he played....
his pro red guy can prevent any sweepers i have. I need to remove it so I can eventually play a jun charm or caldera hellion. you dont play for the turn, but for the game. I had to set up a situation where i can win the game in the long run.
I may be confused here, but at 6:13 you played a Bitterblossom off of two Fetid Heath and unless I am mistaking you cannot do that as Bitterblossom costs a colorless and a black, and in order to use a Fetid Heath for ww/bw/bb you must filter a w or b into it, not a colorless. Please let me know if I am correct or if I am misunderstanding.
Playing Anathemancer was probably a mistake on turn 4. I would have casted Pulse on Forge-Tender, so a 5th turn Caldera Hellion would've cleared the board. (ok, you had to draw a land, but it had a nice chance)
I think a mistake was made, let me know if i got this wrong. He used white to activate the heights and then main phase 2 he taped 2 healths to play bitterblossom but heath does not make black or white so I am wondering what was filtered. Hope this is relevant.
ok pedro the turn you activated your windbrisk heights you had to fetid heaths left for mana. Those lands cannot be used to play bitterblossom, Also, for the man sitting across the table trom you, I woul dhave hihgly suggest magma spraying one of his token bfore pedro attack, putting him to two dude and therefore dodging on of the top cards in the format windbrisk heights, Can we get a judge in here? lol
its in case they do sumfing wiv a card like cryptic command. if u attack first, den play ur creatures u r less likely to get smashed by an unexpected instant
I'd like to see more of these videos. Watching the deck playout is alot more effective than deck techs. Also where did you acquire the playing surface?
Man I had no idea you were holding a Caldera Hellion; maybe you should do a better job of holding the cards to the camera :P I couldn't really see your hand. Bad quality perhaps.
somebody at an FMN used Pokemon energy cards instead of basic lands once(fire=mountain, leaf=forest, water=island, then nothing for white or black). I really enjoyed that. :)
uh, G/W has Overrun in the spot of Bitterblossom, and, Overrun wrecks B/W for that reason, it just pushes it over the top, and im pretty sure Qasali pirdemage is run in that build, buh bye Bitterblossom.
I dont know dude. just because there is a 1 card answer for bitterblossom doesnt take away the threat of B/W tokens. B/W tokens is leading in PTQs right now with the most wins and popularity
GW beats BW if they are matched against each other but BW has better matchups against other decks in the format. Both are great decks, probably the two best decks in the current metagame
true, but i think we've forgotten about bant, I and a couple others at my local tourney crush others with Bant, and the rest basically play B/W and Putrid Elves and Kithkin and other played decks, we all run slightly varying builds, but Finest Hour with Rafiq and alike is truly devastating. We control the top four, thats all I have to say. And our opponents arent chumps, were all skilled and well versed.
great vid. cool walk through. --when he played the spectral off windbrisk, he was over committing. basically asking for you to sweep. i actually wouldn't have even put hte spectral under the windbrisk. i think finks would have been a better play. life swing + bigger beats. essentially b/w tokens would have kept jund on the defensive because of anthem. 4/4 isn't a fast enough clock against a 3/2 (the -1 persist being in affect so not 4/3) when life is at those totals.
he mentioned the same thing after the play happened. He did the heights though as he didnt feel he would get the chance to swing with an army again in that game so he wanted to try and get any advantage he could.
yeah, i think it's game dependent but i find it's better to put something "else" under the heights...such as finks. obv' in your matchup specifically the lifegain from finks would have been 2x more valuable than a spectral. finks is awesome.
does your list have redcaps? that card is not to be underestimated. sooo powerful. equally powerful as finks. maybe more so...
stop saying thats not waht i wanna see lol
MrXglow 5 months ago
B/w Tokens Decklist please
seh4i 1 year ago
Why didn't you pulse the tokens, since they would all die, instead of the forge-tender?
Lightmane321 1 year ago 2
Bw Tokens Decklist please
seh4i 1 year ago
great video guys!
Technofunk666 1 year ago
is bitter blossom legal in standard?
firedemon229 1 year ago
@firedemon229 Look at the date it was posted..
cruciald 1 year ago
what kind of play mat are you using
demartinod 1 year ago
Is there anyway to get cheap Unhinged/Unglued lands? I'm really needing Plains.
MirrorMMO 1 year ago
lol hes using pokemon cards as tokens
Sforschondetta 1 year ago
whered you get the playing mat from?
skakid71 1 year ago
Thank you! i have now found a good use for my old pokemon cards!
Tobiaz89 1 year ago
Nice. Pokemon cards for tokens and unhinged land.
sesstreets 1 year ago 10
At 6:13 it looks like he taps 2 Fetid Heath to play Bitterblossom. Last I checked 2 Fetid Heath could only produce 2 colorless mana without another mana source helping out.
Slayer89 1 year ago
@Slayer89 i've answered this several times. He took a terrible shortcut to play that turn. The mana works out with all the spells he cast, but we didn't clarify that during the filming.
carthwolf 1 year ago
rapidash i choose you! haha very nice tokens. what ever works
AmazingFaux 1 year ago
Where is the BW tokens decklist???
doxaios83 1 year ago
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This Guy is a moron......
gee u gotta play land to make sure u can go turn 2 leech but what he doesnt relize that if ur running terminate that u need the swamp down and u still got mana for the leech
IWillSurvive666 1 year ago
@IWillSurvive666 at this stage in the format vs BW Tokens there wasnt much of a threat on Turn 2. I would agree that it would be a better play to lead with swamp, but using the term Moron is quite rude and insulting. I would never go onto your channel and insult you in that way.
carthwolf 1 year ago 15
@IWillSurvive666 i dont understand this arguement he didnt have the leech in hand, and he wasnt going to turn 2 terminate, no real threats for it atm. so doenst matter what land he played....
generaljao 1 year ago
pokemon,really.
MadRainProductions 1 year ago
Heights should have been the Turn 1 play, not the Forge-Tender.
Wedgehead123 2 years ago 2
God i miss ole Lorwyn Type II
Current Type II is boring and getting old fast...Jund..Jund...Jund
and a couple other decks i.e. Grixis Control, RDW, UWR Control, and Vampires
SSJiraiya 2 years ago
I need to get myself a mat like that. The site on the mat isn't working.
HollowVampire 2 years ago
They stopped making them as far as i know. I'm glad i bought 2
carthwolf 2 years ago
I thought as much. That kind of sucks. I suppose I could hand make one, but I'm just a bit to lazy.
Oh, have you ever seen those monstrous sized D-20s?
HollowVampire 2 years ago
no sir i havent seen them.
carthwolf 2 years ago
@carthwolf Well that's a shame. They are pretty nice.
HollowVampire 2 years ago
his guys have flying, ur anathamancer doesnt lmao. and playing your maelstrom pulse on his pro red guy instead of his tokens lmao
Auriouk 2 years ago
his pro red guy can prevent any sweepers i have. I need to remove it so I can eventually play a jun charm or caldera hellion. you dont play for the turn, but for the game. I had to set up a situation where i can win the game in the long run.
carthwolf 2 years ago
i li8ke ur pokemon token :D
voodooiam 2 years ago
I may be confused here, but at 6:13 you played a Bitterblossom off of two Fetid Heath and unless I am mistaking you cannot do that as Bitterblossom costs a colorless and a black, and in order to use a Fetid Heath for ww/bw/bb you must filter a w or b into it, not a colorless. Please let me know if I am correct or if I am misunderstanding.
xkore88 2 years ago
yea, his fault im pretty sure
foundationsorrow 2 years ago
ur right he cant do that he just tapped his land wrong so its not really a big deal cuz if he tapped it right he could have done it correctly
shooksonv2 2 years ago
no one can deal with pokemon tokens
MTGBrandon 2 years ago
At 4:20 i would of started Magmaspraying his tokens. It would of been a mildly better blay In my oppinion. Take care and GG.
4GDragon 2 years ago
ya but he had the forge
RIOTPIR4TE 2 years ago
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4GDragon 2 years ago
Do you think that Jund will be tier 1 now that Zendikar is out?
FaeIsBoss 2 years ago
This is really helpful plz post more I'm just getting into Magic im building a Jund deck.
DesN00b 2 years ago
pokemanz tokenz !
wowrulez111 2 years ago
buy real tokens
gimliaton 2 years ago
Nah, i like my tokens.
carthwolf 2 years ago
where do you get a game mat like that
V4L0r 2 years ago
lol pokemon cards as tokens
chippymc12 2 years ago
Pedro meowed.
CTastic1 2 years ago
LOL
xxXKillerHXxx 2 years ago
Playing Anathemancer was probably a mistake on turn 4. I would have casted Pulse on Forge-Tender, so a 5th turn Caldera Hellion would've cleared the board. (ok, you had to draw a land, but it had a nice chance)
SniperMayer 2 years ago
why wouldn`t you use the magma spray on the forge tender instead of the pulse saving it for the tokens
TheOffspringFan12 2 years ago
Forge tender is pro red?
carthwolf 2 years ago
Pedro should of sac the forge-tender in response to the pulse to save 2 damage
zg5000 2 years ago
how many life does each player have? i forgot
TheLuketron 2 years ago
20 to start
xxXKillerHXxx 2 years ago
were u get that mat u playing on
TheLuketron 2 years ago
I tried running a jund deck like this at FNM last week and it was great. Thanks for the vid!
Any chance of seeing a post m-10 white weenie vid?
maddenedcow 2 years ago
He misplayed when he tapped the two fetid heat's for a bitterblossom. You need white or black to add colored mana with the fetid heath's.
JefferyForMAYOR 2 years ago
Pedro has stated that he took a shortcut that wouldnt be known without being there in person. I agree that it looks bad on camera.
carthwolf 2 years ago
lol, pokemans as tokens :D
anyway, good game, i just love tokens :D
wowrulez111 2 years ago
at one 1:03 he said draw a card
brockleejerry 2 years ago
lol he did
shooksonv2 2 years ago
do u hav a vid tht shows the decklist for the BWtokens deck?
wiivolution222 2 years ago
I think a mistake was made, let me know if i got this wrong. He used white to activate the heights and then main phase 2 he taped 2 healths to play bitterblossom but heath does not make black or white so I am wondering what was filtered. Hope this is relevant.
Jojack880 2 years ago
That is correct Jojack. Cheatyface strikes again.
garthok84 2 years ago
Oh God I love Jund decks
can tell me what cards I should get for my Jund deck?
0998769 2 years ago
great video guys
can you pass em the jund decklist plizz
thanks i enjoyed a lot
DarkManuel93 2 years ago
Ooh...White borderd cards...bad show!
slyguntex 2 years ago
Dont think i get this comment.
carthwolf 2 years ago
Man I'd love to get one of those play boards. I can't seem to find a place to buy them.
CraazyMike 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
When you find out, let me know. Lol.
MrHateCrew 2 years ago
what was the original message?
carthwolf 2 years ago
Where to get one of the cool play boards.
MrHateCrew 2 years ago
on the other video;s this question was answered.
carthwolf 2 years ago
Oh, sorry. I just became a sub, but I'm glad I did. (: Great vids, and nice decks....(no homo...Lol) Keep up the good work. (:
MrHateCrew 2 years ago
do you have the jund decklist
boggle2000 2 years ago
click more info on the right
Phiz787 2 years ago
ok pedro the turn you activated your windbrisk heights you had to fetid heaths left for mana. Those lands cannot be used to play bitterblossom, Also, for the man sitting across the table trom you, I woul dhave hihgly suggest magma spraying one of his token bfore pedro attack, putting him to two dude and therefore dodging on of the top cards in the format windbrisk heights, Can we get a judge in here? lol
808Mager2 2 years ago
retards....
fruzzidoc 2 years ago
FREAKY BASIC LANDS
but dey r awesum, where did u get dem
MJtheKandyman 2 years ago
Unhinged block
thefallenangelsora 2 years ago
im confused about why pedro attacks right after he draws? everyone i have ever played and seen play and myself attacks at the end of the turn... hmm
13JCR13 2 years ago
its in case they do sumfing wiv a card like cryptic command. if u attack first, den play ur creatures u r less likely to get smashed by an unexpected instant
MJtheKandyman 2 years ago
why not block the forge tender at 1:33?
anth8540 2 years ago
Where do u get a playmat like that
ajonesy09 2 years ago
I'd like to see more of these videos. Watching the deck playout is alot more effective than deck techs. Also where did you acquire the playing surface?
ghettopod95 2 years ago
Man I had no idea you were holding a Caldera Hellion; maybe you should do a better job of holding the cards to the camera :P I couldn't really see your hand. Bad quality perhaps.
nerukaaa 2 years ago
Awesome videos but please stop saying "effectively."
Most of the time you are actually doing what you keep saying you are "effectively" doing. Sorry, but it was getting on my nerves :S
Anyway, how do you find the Jund deck carthwolf?
B3457 2 years ago
After we edited together we noticed the Effectively or the "Not something i really want to see right now" quite a bit.
The Jund deck is my own. I built it out of what i thought was the best version. I edited i a bit and made improvements to the board.
the Red Command is by far good tech atm.
carthwolf 2 years ago
what about pulsing the tokens instead of forgetennder?
nickiscool5656 2 years ago
I liked your tokens. there was a dude at regionals using zubats for spirits and machops for kithkin soldiers
starwarsmaniac93 2 years ago
somebody at an FMN used Pokemon energy cards instead of basic lands once(fire=mountain, leaf=forest, water=island, then nothing for white or black). I really enjoyed that. :)
spa9876 2 years ago
table looks awesome
hattrick72787 2 years ago
Man that T3 mancer was bad.
bigblopper 2 years ago
haha are those tokens pokemon cards
fourstatefav 2 years ago
he should have sac'd the forgetender before the pulse resolved and targeted the mancer
agdstardust 2 years ago
at 6:20 b/w tapped 2 fetid heath for colored mana
neither can make colored mana on their own and they cany turn the colorless mana the other made into colored mana
he needed to play that other land to make the bitterblossom
tehphir3 2 years ago
he mentioned that he would use the filter to make it. it is a shortcut that some people allow.
carthwolf 2 years ago
uh, G/W is far superior to B/W at this point in time.
WhopperSr 2 years ago
What makes you say that? B/W has a lot of good synergy between its hide away spectral possession ajani and bitterblossom.
benc512 2 years ago
uh, G/W has Overrun in the spot of Bitterblossom, and, Overrun wrecks B/W for that reason, it just pushes it over the top, and im pretty sure Qasali pirdemage is run in that build, buh bye Bitterblossom.
WhopperSr 2 years ago
I dont know dude. just because there is a 1 card answer for bitterblossom doesnt take away the threat of B/W tokens. B/W tokens is leading in PTQs right now with the most wins and popularity
benc512 2 years ago
GW beats BW if they are matched against each other but BW has better matchups against other decks in the format. Both are great decks, probably the two best decks in the current metagame
xBoSMaN22 2 years ago
true, but i think we've forgotten about bant, I and a couple others at my local tourney crush others with Bant, and the rest basically play B/W and Putrid Elves and Kithkin and other played decks, we all run slightly varying builds, but Finest Hour with Rafiq and alike is truly devastating. We control the top four, thats all I have to say. And our opponents arent chumps, were all skilled and well versed.
WhopperSr 2 years ago
Definitely should have magma sprayed a spirit token pre-combat to keep him from using windbrisk heights
xBoSMaN22 2 years ago
Brian I would also like to know where the playmat came from can you message me thanks.
elfkingnick123 2 years ago
Where did you get that great playmat from? Can it be bought? Please message me!!! :D
eoyn 2 years ago
great vid. cool walk through. --when he played the spectral off windbrisk, he was over committing. basically asking for you to sweep. i actually wouldn't have even put hte spectral under the windbrisk. i think finks would have been a better play. life swing + bigger beats. essentially b/w tokens would have kept jund on the defensive because of anthem. 4/4 isn't a fast enough clock against a 3/2 (the -1 persist being in affect so not 4/3) when life is at those totals.
power9pro 2 years ago
he mentioned the same thing after the play happened. He did the heights though as he didnt feel he would get the chance to swing with an army again in that game so he wanted to try and get any advantage he could.
carthwolf 2 years ago
yeah, i think it's game dependent but i find it's better to put something "else" under the heights...such as finks. obv' in your matchup specifically the lifegain from finks would have been 2x more valuable than a spectral. finks is awesome.
does your list have redcaps? that card is not to be underestimated. sooo powerful. equally powerful as finks. maybe more so...
power9pro 2 years ago
I love the poke-tokens! haha nice job guys. These vids really help me out.
NHPAKid 2 years ago
deck lists?
Jockzilla74 2 years ago
one minute.
I can get the jund one up here shortly
carthwolf 2 years ago
cool, def want to see the jund deck, and maybe some reasons why you chose the cards you did, if at all possible.
Jockzilla74 2 years ago
check sidebar
carthwolf 2 years ago
Thanks!!!
Jockzilla74 2 years ago
RAPIDASH ATTACK
Goltermann87 2 years ago
lol are those pokemon cards :P
ertai222 2 years ago
best tokens Evar
carthwolf 2 years ago