Im from California and I can't wait to move to new hampshire. No more dreaded heat waves where im sweating with the AC on high, no more driving for 5 hours to the mountains to see some snow, and LIBERTY!!! FREEDOM IS THE SWEETEST THING ON EARTH
Pack heat, call the feds on their heinous bullshit, props to NH.
I'd move there if it wasn't one of the states where the winters are cold and snowy...but hopefully here in Cali people will start challenging the feds more and more as well.
Exposed- NH US Senate Candidate stole weapons from Fort Devens and sold them on black market. Politcians Ayotte, Greeg, Bass, Lynch, Shaheen, Swett continue the cover-up along with no word from media. And YES it is true contact me if you have questions.
The one thing I disliked about this piece was the lady said about gun rights, "and they exploit that right to carry guns." You can't exploit a right... it's this type of attitude that restricts rights... She should have said, "and they use their right to carry guns"
What a joke. Are most humans fake or something? How can they not understand. The Media is mentally ill. NOBODY wants to live without freedom. Freedom is all and everything. WIthout Freedom is nothing. There is no in between. No one pays attention to these politicians. They are light years behind the Galactic Federation of Light and Our Ancestors, cousins, brothers, sons.
Read the Washington post article regarding AE911truth. Waiting for a follow up by mainstream media. Somehow this is important :-) What's mainstream media gonna do now that they've hiding the facts? Looks like theyre gonna have to flip flop.
It was said... "Yet you people pass laws preventing 2% of our country from getting married. You make it so the gov. tells me what I can or cannot put in my body."
You seem quick to mark potential allies as enemies. Why assign government oppression of liberties to masses of fellow attentive citizens? Why should government regulate marriage at all other than to pit us against one another? It is not a matter for government.
@nateisgreaterthanyou NH is corrupt you have no idea. Watch this video on what your major politicians and media refuse to expose one of your US Senate Candidate stole weapons from Fort Devens.
Born and raised in NH, and I really do love it here. Whether this project is realistic or just meant as more of a message, I support it. And... NH isn't going to secede. The idea of it is to simply remind the federal government that we have the RIGHT to do so. it's a message, not a threat.
Hahaha! If NH decides to secede from the US over guns, it may as well shoot itself in the head. Without Massachusetts, its well-paying jobs in Boston & Cambridge, without throngs of rich, snooty, liberal Mass-holes visiting its tourist facilities, NH's economy would turn over & croak. If New Hampshire secedes, it may as well change its name to "New Guatemala."
Yeah, and what happens when the granite runs out? What happens when all the people in southern NH who work in Mass have to cross border security every time they drive down I-93 for work everyday? There's no way NH will survive without Mass's money.
If they're moving to NH, then they're making a daily commute to Boston, where they're inevitably employed. Once again, New Hampshire would die an agonizing economic death if it weren't for the so-called "liberal-loving Taxachusetts."
High tech industry? Excuse me, but have you even been to NH's major cities (Nashua - "Trashua", Manchester, Concord, Salem)? All of them are dumps with little industry to speak of. All the real money earners work in Boston - that's a known fact.
yes ive been to those towns,i lived in salem for 2 years,and would hardly refer to it as a dump.now for real dumps how about lawrence,fall river,springfield,dorchester,roxbury,lynn,brockton,all in mass.
Oh menasor73ct, you hit the nail on the head!!! Springfield is a MAJOR dump where they NEED an open carry law because the crime is so bad. And I personally think Boston is it's fair share of a dump. I think juliaisafilmbuff123 needs to move back to Massachusetts, or California, or NY City for that matter and shut her mouth.
@antiquefeminist No but youre definitely a "SKUNKMOLLY".......Definition: A person who lives off of others and is grotesque in both hygiene and appearance. In other words...mutant offspring!
All those famous universities in Boston (Harvard, MIT, BC, BU) are nests of the most liberal minds in all of America.
Those taxes pay for the infrastucture in the Boston area: the commuter rail, the subways, the cultural events, the community development (just to name a few). If you thik an economy can function without the best academic minds and a world class tax-funded infrastructure, you need to move to Somalia.
There is no need to overtax an economy. You Libtards are nuts! If you lower taxes, it is a proven fact industry and the whole of the economy grows. It is needed in Massachusetts because I don't see people breaking down the door to move there.
To clarify. People who live in NH and work in Massachusetts must pay the Massachusetts State Income Tax. So no, the large majority of people from Mass who move to NH don't work in Mass. Why would they?
I'd say Massachusetts is responsible for 90% of NH's income. I live in a very affluent NH town and I'll tell you straight up that nearly everyone works in Boston. Could you imagine all those people needing a passport to get to work?
By the way, the "Free State Project" in no way represents the views of the majority of New Hampshirites.
Actually, the Free State Project speaks for a whopping 88% of New Hampshire residents. You're head is up your Marxist rear end. Pull it out so you can breathe and see the light. And in no way is Mass responsible for 90% of NH's income. You'd only like to think that because you are a Masshole.
Julia you ever stop to think the reason you lose power every year is because of where you live?During the last major outage I lost power for a few hours,while people in your area lost it for a couple of weeks. I feel your pain about the influx of people from Massachussetts.They Fled over taxation and ridiculous Liberal laws to come to NH and turn it into the same place they fled.
"Liberal laws"? Are you kidding me? The people from Mass are the reason why southern NH is conservative! It's more the larger towns like Manchester and Concord who are democrat. And yes, we lost power for a week and a half, but thankfully we didn't have to pay a shitload of cash for some power company to put it back (which WILL happen under the kind of government these free staters are advocating).
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I think it's funny that the "free state project" has less than 700 people in NH, about 3.5% of their goal.
I think I'm right about this one. The initial outline of this "project" and its goals are doomed to fail. People from Mass are moving to NH in droves, and many of them are bringing their nanny laws with them. True fact, I live in the Windham-Pelham-Salem-Atkinson rhombus and once these Massholes come here the first thing they do is get NH more like Mass!
I think the "paultards" label is hilarious.Maybe after our inflationary depression people will wake up and realise that Ron paul was right about the federal reserve,and we'll all be "paultards".Oh and by the way Hayek won the Nobel prize in economic science for pointing out how the federal reserve creates the boom-bust cycle,but Ron paul must just be some crazy idiot for doing exactly the same thing.
I love New Hampshire.Ive had the luxury of being born and raised in a state that has consistantly had a better economy,lower crime rate,better schools,lower tax burden,and more individual rights than most other states.
Thanks so very much for posting! Go New Hampshire!!! Live free or Die!!!! Right On!!!! Lets see when Obama will reveal himself, its only a matter of time!
Dude, did you just see the comments I posted below you? Have fun freezing your ass off in the winter when the power goes out and you have to wait a week for PSNH to get it up and running (as was the case three months ago).
Once you move to my home state of NH, please be prepared for the following:
- Long and winding roads (only state where no roads are a straight line).
- About 5-8 blizzards in the winter (take my advice: invest in a generator. Your power WILL go out).
- If you move to Windham/Salem/Atkinson/Nashua area = about 90% of your neighbors will have immigrated from Malden/Lowell/Methuen or any other shit-town in Mass.
- No income tax, but a fucking HUGE property tax (have to build those MC Escher roads some way).
- No boat = no social life (PLEASE trust me on this one. If you want to make new friends, show them your boat.)
- NOTHING to do unless you want to hike/fish/boat/run around in the woods all day. Or unless you want to venture into, as you would say, Tax-a-chusetts by driving down I-93 for over an hour in Boston commuter traffic.
- Pretty leaves in the fall, BUT all the tourist leaf-peepers from NYC and Jersey.
- If you live in the Southern NH towns I mentioned, your children have a 1-in-3 chance of becoming full-blown potheads before they're 18 (about 1/3rd of my high school classmates smoked pot on a regular basis since weed is super-easy to score over there. Trust me, I go to college in California, and the pot content in NH is probably twice as high as it is here).
I live in New Hampshire and these people are very fringe politically here. I was on the Libertarian Party mailing list and even voted for Brown for President, but they got less than 5 percent of the vote, way less, that year. America is not just people who love and own guns, with bear and antelope heads on the walls. Try Jeanne Shaheen, the former Governor just elected U.S. Senator for this State. Try John Sununu, her opponent, now sitting on the Board at Time-Warner. Russkie troublemakers.
Private guns is exceptionally rare in the rest of the world, unless one is actively fighting. To simply "carry" one is strange, "man bites dog" news. No surprise that it would be right up front in this report.
What the "reporter" ignored was the reason stated for the level of disgust: Rabid federal spending and intrusiveness.
Such intrusion and spending is perfectly normal, you see, so "dog bites man" news is ignored.
I love ya New Hampshire...get that sovereignty. If I could afford it I'd consider moving there. Florida is beautiful but our government sucks. Its like a police state here compared to you.
In case you haven't been told yet, our movement is currently under fire and in question. A document released on 2/20/09 to the Missouri Highway Patrol has directed the officers focus to recognize certain icons as potential "Paramilitary" or unconstitutional "Militia".
Unfortunately, most of the imagery or icons used are related to our freedom movement, including Dr. Ron Paul, the movie "America: Freedom to Fascism", and upside down flags are all bundled into a category of potential "Paramilitary".
We are alarmed by this document for many reasons, but the most immediate is due to the Campaign For Liberty Regional Conference being held in St. Louis at the end of March, 2009. We feel that we WILL be PROFILED by Missouri police officers, when in reality we do not pose threats.
We are asking for your help, and this is only stage ONE of this project. Please call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission.
Let them know because of this Document, you are concerned about traveling to Missouri. Tell them you don't want to be a target of profiling, and because of this document you CANNOT support a states economy that DOES NOT support or 1st Amendment rights without being labeled as potential threats.
1. Call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and tell them that you are withdrawing your reservations to Ron Paul's Regional Conference and moving to the IL side out of concern of being PROFILED.
(314) 231-5555
2. Call the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission and tell them you won't visit Missouri because of "political profiling". (800) 325-7962
3. Call the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) and tell them their generalized information is hurting the image of PEACEFUL FREEDOM LOVERS, and ask them how you can help make this document BETTER! (866) 362-6422 and (573)-526-6115
4. If you are not attending the Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference, call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce (314-231-5555) and the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission (800-325-7962) and tell them you will not be visiting or spending your money in Missouri because of "political profiling" by the MIAC.
Thanks to Bryon Huber and Catherine Bleish from the Liberty Restoration Project for their diligent efforts to draft the action plan in response to this latest threat to liberty.
The actions of the MIAC will not go unnoticed by the American people.
We need your overwhelming support in this action. Please forward, post, blog, comment, tweet, and spread this message to every freedom related social network and forum you can find.
Forever in Freedom,
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I am so glad even states with some of the most "liberal" laws are changing their attitude towards the federal government. I just simply can't express how distressed I am in what is going to happen.
This is why I'm moving to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project. (I'm the one in the video with the orange jacket and Glock 26 on his hip.)
If you care about your freedom, this is the place to be. But we need you to make it happen. Meet us at the Porcupine Freedom Festival this June, experience the Live Free or Die state, and realize what an amazing group of pro liberty activists that will be there for you when you make the move.
The FSP isn't just about libertarians. It is about all liberty activists. They may call themselves libertarians, anarchists, conservatives, freemarketeers, classical liberals, jefferson democrats or something else. As long as they care about liberty and are working towards positive change in that direction.
I miss the serenity of believing I lived under a good government, wisely designed and benevolent in its operation. But there comes a time to put away childish things.
Chris (Lawless) awesome last name,good name for this story.The Federal government should stay out of the states business,states should make there own laws and the Federal government should go back to the post office game, and make sure my mail is on time but for real the Federal government needs to back off,or next they will pass law so people cant grow there own food.Oh wait, there are trying to do that H.R 875
Isn't this the same state that stole the primary elections? Reports had come in that they had mad fradulent voting going on in New Hampshire. Interesting to see that they are the ones once again attempting something. Something is def. wrong with the New Hampshire state.
62% of New Hampshire Business is Distribution....That means products from outside the state. Good luck with seceding You anti-American losers. ((((((((((
)))))))))))The Federal goverment have been breaking, bending, changing and mangling laws since before you were born...nothing changed MORONS...THATS AMERICA!
When I lived in Massachusetts I noticed it was MUCH less intrusive into personal matters than California. Pay your taxes and they pretty much left you alone.
Oh, and NEVER disrespect a cop in Massachusetts. Ever.
Ok, you Easterners, when the US disintegrates and the Republic of California declares itself as a separate country, you all have to get a visa to visit our sunshine state. You will all be forbidden to emigrate. too, unless you have relatives who are already here!
Remember, currently, California is the 6th largest economy in the world, all the other states like NH will be like Greenland or Belgium, or may even become failed states like Pakistan! Let the US disintegrate now! Viva California!
What about the millions of Mexicans in California without a green card? Didn't stop them at the gates.Plus the United States of America,is not going to disintegrate,they just need to stop push big government down the states throat and let them decide whats best for there state.
I think I should add that, as someone who lived in NH for 14 years, this video is hardly accurate. Yes there are people who have guns (my parents' house is 5 minutes from the very active gun range) but from my experience I haven't seen anyone actually carry a handgun 24-7. Also, where are you "freedom people"/Paulies going to move to exactly? Northern NH is nothing but mountains and cows, southern NH is Bostonian refugees. Take your pick.
You'll get no disagreement about the "accuracy" of this story from me, it's a hit-piece that's for sure.
My preference is mountains and cows, thank you. I loved northern CA, as far from the haze of streetlights as it was possible to get. Glorious. And I miss the snow of New England.
The question is, where are all the people who want welfare going to go when there is no more welfare? Massachusetts.
I'm wondering, if you really are so frustrated about all the shit going down in your home state, why not just fix the problems in your home state instead of establishing an anti-social community in NH? I have no idea how you people think.
So you have done no actual investigation of the Free State Project at all. Otherwise, you would never have called them "anti-social", because the very reason for its existence is social cooperation.
It is the people who advocate coercion, force, prohibition, regulation, regimentation and taxation who are anti-social, who are driven by envy and arrogance to punish success and reward sloth.
I was talking about all the free-staters coming to NH from Florida, Ohio, Texas, and elsewhere.
What I mean by "anti-social community" are these communities they're planning on creating in already established towns which will be exclusively Paultards.
I agree that a police state is anti-social, which is why I'm against states, but at the same time this "project" isn't going to get off the ground much especially since the goal is to play the political field instead of building new institutions.
"..Live Free or Die.." means you will NOT regulate me out of feeding myself, you will NOT regulate my self-protection (gun) and you will NOT make me dependent on the US Gov't for my food,clothes and housing.. I will die first.. that's what Live Free or Die means..
It was also your right at one time to own a slave. We did out with that. Countries that put a ban on guns have less crime. By your logic lincoln was a socialist. I always love how you right wing nut jobs always say government needs to be small and not interfere with our lives. Yet you people pass laws preventing 2% of our country from getting married. You make it so the gov. tells me what I can or cannot put in my body. Can you say hypocrites?
Libertarians are NOT right-wingers. Libertarians are "fiscally conservative" (like Republicans) and "socially liberal" (like Democrats). Libertarians are in favor of maximum self-governance, liberty, and personal responsibility. The vast majority of libertarians would like to see the government ignore religious matters like marriage. And just about every libertarian will agree that the government should not be telling you what you can and can't put in your body. Read up on libertarianism.
"There are right wing libertarians.. there are also left wing libertarians, I'd consider myself one of them." --
Being on the fringe "wing" implies that you don't agree with any of the other side's beliefs and libertarianism has elements of both right and left (in that it thinks everyone should be free to do what they want so long as they don't hurt others).
So...as a "left wing libertarian," do you believe in gun rights, free markets without regulation, etc?
The American Libertarian party's philosophy is only one specific brand of Libertarianism. Libertarianism is a huge body of ideas characterized by anti-authoritarianism and anti-statism, it runs from right to left. I'd categorize the US Lib Party's politics as classic liberal and very similar to the paleoconservatives.
I believe in a minimal state role, a direct democracy, and the abolition of private enterprise and their replacement by independent, worker-owned cooperatives.
"So yeah, I believe in gun rights and free markets with little regulation, but I'm against privatization." --
Privatization of WHAT? Free markets = private markets as the government by definition is not free; it's only power is to make laws and laws are enforced, not freely, but through force.
Privatization means individual ownership of capital. I'm not advocating government ownership of capital, but stakeholder ownership. Free markets are characterized by an absence of government regulation, whether or not that market is dominated by private enterprise or not is another issue.
I think you and DM's argument is an excellent example of being distracted by minutia.
Libertarians eschew the initiation of force. Coercion.
Once violating the right of the individual to choose for themselves, "left" and "right" become private, personal preference like vanilla or chocolate. Nothing to argue about.
It is government intrusion into people's lives which engenders hostility and conflict. Government CREATES CHAOS.
Some people start by believing their private choices are sacrosanct, others that their public choices are. By realizing that in order to ensure one's own rights one must FULLY respect the rights of others, one reaches the roots of Libertarian philosophy.
I keep being accused of being "right wing" just because I loath big government. But wasn't Hitler "right wing"? Bush? Franco?
I live in Massachusetts, New Hampshire's neighbor. New Hampshire (and all of New England) is indeed one of the most liberal states, second probably only the California (Where even the Republicans are practically Libs). The one problem they have in this way is there "grassroots" mentality. This causes a "California Uber Alles" effect that basically translates into that people say they are for liberal ideas, but by promoting the jucket mentality they actually promote the opposite.
That's libertarian. They have the most libertarian laws in the country. If they had the most liberal laws things would be different. For example, they'd have to register their guns and certainly couldn't carry them around with them.
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Libertarian - Fundamentally liberal but economy conservative.
No they are for the most part very liberal, but their backwoods mentally causes some odd turnups. NRA members are like religious people, always willing to bend to get what they want. The constitution says "well regulated militia" does not translate to "Everyone running around with semi-autos" to most people.
The problem with your thinking is that you think the constitution tells us what our rights are. That's the sign of someone who is very uneducated. The constitution tells what the government can and cannot do. We are free men. We can do whatever we want so long as we do not harm anyone else. As long as this is understood we shall remain free. If it is forgotten we will lose our freedom. Like right now for instance.
I like your thinking, and it is both optimistic and more reasonable. However, it is not reality. In reality the constitution literally is our rights, as it was written and as it is enforced. We are, in fact, subject to it and the law. I don't like this at all, however it is the truth.
No that's not it at all. It' isn' our rights. The Founders knew that giving government to state our rights mean that they had the right to take them away from. That's why they made our constitution so that it would restrict the government and leave us alone. Just read the Bill of Rights and you'll see: cannot search without a warrant, cannot use cruel and unusual punishment, cannot do unreasonable searches and seizures. Just read the history and you'll see.
Something about commenting on a Russian video assures that no one understands English.
The second amendment is directly referring to a "well regulated militia". Meaning if you are part of a civil, organized, and authorized militia you have the right to bear arms.
I never called libertarians backwoods you pathetic imbecile. I stated that the odd conflict between New Hampshire's liberal stance mixed with backwoods culture made them more of libertarians than liberals.
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
Then goes on to state:
The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
I fail to see where the right to bear arms is restricted to the militia when the second statement gives the only explicit declaration (in English) of a right to THE PEOPLE.
If it was restricted to the militia, then why did the founders not enforce the restriction to that effect?
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
No part of the statement is referring to specific states. When they say a "free state" they are referring to the definition of state that most of the world uses being a centrally run government and running a nation not defined by it's culture. In these times the states would have been referred to as colonies or provinces unless noted as separate.
"the definition of state that most of the world uses"
False. It's not the "United State of America".
The several states regarded themselves as individual sovereign nations, which then ceded some of their power to a central organization in order to better coexist both within and without.
Have you ever actually READ the Constitution? Its not very long, nor difficult language. Little of it is taught in public school, sadly, so you kind of have to go look it up yourself.
There is no transition within the amendment referring to the colonies. This is mainly due to the fact (other than the plain English) that the constitution does not refer to them, because it is the FEDERAL constitution of the UNITED STATES. (A good example of when state was used to refer to the sub-states of the UNITED states IE state.)
The entire amendment is referring to militias just as it is clearly stated in the opening sentence.
PS Arms are a weapon of offense or defense by definition.
You can rewrite the definition but it will not change the facts. The amendment was intentionally short, to the point, and clearly written so that people like you could not change the meaning.
By the was that link was completely incoherent. Besides youtube slaughtering it even corrected it is not a valid URL. When you search for "The Right to Bear Arms" on the site you only get references to articles by professors at GMU. Furthermore even if it did, it would still be an opinion piece.
"clearly written so that people like you could not change the meaning."
I'm not rewriting anything. The link, if you remove the spaces, is to quotations by the people involved in writing and ratifying the Constitution itself, and every single one of them presents it as an individual Right not dependent upon any militia.
If you search for the quote from Trench Coxe I provided, you will also find plenty of other sources.
Both the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist papers, say the same.
CurtHowland: An authoritarian militant such as yourself calling me ignorant is comical at best. Just a fleeting glimpse at favorites reveals an uneasy pattern.
"Authoritarian"? Please, describe to me how wanting to leave people alone makes me "authoritarian". This is a new use for the word which I've never heard before.
You are ignorant, since you continue to state the 2nd Amendment has some dependency upon a militia.
No, not "ignorant": Deliberately disingenuous.
Ignorant implies that you might be able to learn, if presented with the facts. You have been presented, but you refuse. That's beyond ignorant: you're a liar.
almost half of our 50 states have made sovereignty resolutions since Obama became president. Look it up. you can find the resolutions online and confirm them on the states website.
Yet they are one of the states that allows cops to arrest people for using their cameras in public. ???
threepercenter03 8 months ago
@antiquefeminist Why dont you want me to move to new hampshire?
scubapro12z 8 months ago
Pay no attention to "antiquefeminist" otherwise known as "SKUNKMOLLY"
caseyshattuck 9 months ago
Im from California and I can't wait to move to new hampshire. No more dreaded heat waves where im sweating with the AC on high, no more driving for 5 hours to the mountains to see some snow, and LIBERTY!!! FREEDOM IS THE SWEETEST THING ON EARTH
scubapro12z 10 months ago
@scubapro12z We don't want you.
antiquefeminist 9 months ago
Pack heat, call the feds on their heinous bullshit, props to NH.
I'd move there if it wasn't one of the states where the winters are cold and snowy...but hopefully here in Cali people will start challenging the feds more and more as well.
drago884 1 year ago
Yup. Thats my states.
RufusRamen 1 year ago
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Exposed- NH US Senate Candidate stole weapons from Fort Devens and sold them on black market. Politcians Ayotte, Greeg, Bass, Lynch, Shaheen, Swett continue the cover-up along with no word from media. And YES it is true contact me if you have questions.
watch?v=m2FuFF5AFrw
MzDragonfyre 1 year ago
The one thing I disliked about this piece was the lady said about gun rights, "and they exploit that right to carry guns." You can't exploit a right... it's this type of attitude that restricts rights... She should have said, "and they use their right to carry guns"
Z0mgZ0mbies 1 year ago
What a joke. Are most humans fake or something? How can they not understand. The Media is mentally ill. NOBODY wants to live without freedom. Freedom is all and everything. WIthout Freedom is nothing. There is no in between. No one pays attention to these politicians. They are light years behind the Galactic Federation of Light and Our Ancestors, cousins, brothers, sons.
TheNextLevel11 1 year ago
ain't that the state they try to flee to in that movie "I Am Legend" to escape from the Rabid Zombies!! - lol
UfoFootage2 1 year ago
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Yes go NH
Read the Washington post article regarding AE911truth. Waiting for a follow up by mainstream media. Somehow this is important :-) What's mainstream media gonna do now that they've hiding the facts? Looks like theyre gonna have to flip flop.
Support Liberty, be Honorable.
Peace and God Bless
planetofterror 1 year ago
wait can someone tell what the hell is this russia today thing and that chick has a wicked eastern euro name why do they care what NH is doing
UdontNoME91 2 years ago
It was said... "Yet you people pass laws preventing 2% of our country from getting married. You make it so the gov. tells me what I can or cannot put in my body."
You seem quick to mark potential allies as enemies. Why assign government oppression of liberties to masses of fellow attentive citizens? Why should government regulate marriage at all other than to pit us against one another? It is not a matter for government.
McVearryAnderCalcutt 2 years ago
Go New Hampshire woot!!!
nateisgreaterthanyou 2 years ago 6
@nateisgreaterthanyou NH is corrupt you have no idea. Watch this video on what your major politicians and media refuse to expose one of your US Senate Candidate stole weapons from Fort Devens.
watch?v=m2FuFF5AFrw
MzDragonfyre 1 year ago
Born and raised in NH, and I really do love it here. Whether this project is realistic or just meant as more of a message, I support it. And... NH isn't going to secede. The idea of it is to simply remind the federal government that we have the RIGHT to do so. it's a message, not a threat.
Skunk001010 2 years ago
Hahaha! If NH decides to secede from the US over guns, it may as well shoot itself in the head. Without Massachusetts, its well-paying jobs in Boston & Cambridge, without throngs of rich, snooty, liberal Mass-holes visiting its tourist facilities, NH's economy would turn over & croak. If New Hampshire secedes, it may as well change its name to "New Guatemala."
FranklyMisterShankly 2 years ago
Actually, it's economy is also heavily supported by the granite mines throughout the state
fdantheman 2 years ago
Yeah, and what happens when the granite runs out? What happens when all the people in southern NH who work in Mass have to cross border security every time they drive down I-93 for work everyday? There's no way NH will survive without Mass's money.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
I doubt the republic would have any serious 'border security'. The org is explicitly libertarian.
fdantheman 2 years ago
mass people are not visiting nh,they are moving to nh.
menasor73ct 2 years ago
If they're moving to NH, then they're making a daily commute to Boston, where they're inevitably employed. Once again, New Hampshire would die an agonizing economic death if it weren't for the so-called "liberal-loving Taxachusetts."
FranklyMisterShankly 2 years ago
not quite true,nh alone has a thriving high tech industry.
menasor73ct 2 years ago
High tech industry? Excuse me, but have you even been to NH's major cities (Nashua - "Trashua", Manchester, Concord, Salem)? All of them are dumps with little industry to speak of. All the real money earners work in Boston - that's a known fact.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
yes ive been to those towns,i lived in salem for 2 years,and would hardly refer to it as a dump.now for real dumps how about lawrence,fall river,springfield,dorchester,roxbury,lynn,brockton,all in mass.
menasor73ct 2 years ago
Oh menasor73ct, you hit the nail on the head!!! Springfield is a MAJOR dump where they NEED an open carry law because the crime is so bad. And I personally think Boston is it's fair share of a dump. I think juliaisafilmbuff123 needs to move back to Massachusetts, or California, or NY City for that matter and shut her mouth.
TTURedRaidr 2 years ago
@TTURedRaidr Wellt hat is an issue because since when does another state have the jurisdiction to tell another resident of a state what to pay?
MzDragonfyre 1 year ago
@juliaisafilmbuff123 Salem isn't a city, nor is it a 'dump.'
DevSodDribble 1 year ago
@DevSodDribble Oh, it's a dump, all right.
antiquefeminist 9 months ago
@antiquefeminist God you are stupid!
caseyshattuck 9 months ago
@caseyshattuck I'm not your God, spanky - but that is the kind of intelligent commentary we've come to expect from you randsniffers.
antiquefeminist 9 months ago
@antiquefeminist No but youre definitely a "SKUNKMOLLY".......Definition: A person who lives off of others and is grotesque in both hygiene and appearance. In other words...mutant offspring!
caseyshattuck 9 months ago
@caseyshattuck Whassamatta Casey - did your mom kick you out of her basement? Forget to buy your Cheetos?
antiquefeminist 9 months ago
@antiquefeminist No actually she taught me how to spot a "SKUNKMOLLY" you "SKUNKMOLLY"!!
caseyshattuck 9 months ago
@antiquefeminist BTW...."SKUNKMOLLY" my name is not Casey but you would have to be smart to figure that one out.....RIGHT SKUNKMOLLY??
caseyshattuck 9 months ago
@antiquefeminist How is it a 'dump', besides a few empty buildings on Route 28??
DevSodDribble 9 months ago
The fact that you claim massachusetts is a liberal loving state does not prove it a thriving economic area because of it's taxes and so forth.
It would thrive more economically without those dreaded taxes.
alex3914 2 years ago
All those famous universities in Boston (Harvard, MIT, BC, BU) are nests of the most liberal minds in all of America.
Those taxes pay for the infrastucture in the Boston area: the commuter rail, the subways, the cultural events, the community development (just to name a few). If you thik an economy can function without the best academic minds and a world class tax-funded infrastructure, you need to move to Somalia.
FranklyMisterShankly 2 years ago
There is no need to overtax an economy. You Libtards are nuts! If you lower taxes, it is a proven fact industry and the whole of the economy grows. It is needed in Massachusetts because I don't see people breaking down the door to move there.
TTURedRaidr 2 years ago
To clarify. People who live in NH and work in Massachusetts must pay the Massachusetts State Income Tax. So no, the large majority of people from Mass who move to NH don't work in Mass. Why would they?
TTURedRaidr 2 years ago
I know, right?
I'd say Massachusetts is responsible for 90% of NH's income. I live in a very affluent NH town and I'll tell you straight up that nearly everyone works in Boston. Could you imagine all those people needing a passport to get to work?
By the way, the "Free State Project" in no way represents the views of the majority of New Hampshirites.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Actually, the Free State Project speaks for a whopping 88% of New Hampshire residents. You're head is up your Marxist rear end. Pull it out so you can breathe and see the light. And in no way is Mass responsible for 90% of NH's income. You'd only like to think that because you are a Masshole.
TTURedRaidr 2 years ago
-- Interesting ,, New Hamshire can carry a gun ,,, EUROPEAN UNION ,, all states do not have such liberal laws , regarding pistols ..
aviomaster 2 years ago
Julia you ever stop to think the reason you lose power every year is because of where you live?During the last major outage I lost power for a few hours,while people in your area lost it for a couple of weeks. I feel your pain about the influx of people from Massachussetts.They Fled over taxation and ridiculous Liberal laws to come to NH and turn it into the same place they fled.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago
"Liberal laws"? Are you kidding me? The people from Mass are the reason why southern NH is conservative! It's more the larger towns like Manchester and Concord who are democrat. And yes, we lost power for a week and a half, but thankfully we didn't have to pay a shitload of cash for some power company to put it back (which WILL happen under the kind of government these free staters are advocating).
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
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I think it's funny that the "free state project" has less than 700 people in NH, about 3.5% of their goal.
I think I'm right about this one. The initial outline of this "project" and its goals are doomed to fail. People from Mass are moving to NH in droves, and many of them are bringing their nanny laws with them. True fact, I live in the Windham-Pelham-Salem-Atkinson rhombus and once these Massholes come here the first thing they do is get NH more like Mass!
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
I'm so fucking moving there!
THAWK3 2 years ago 2
Invest in a generator, your power WILL go out for days during the 5-8 blizzards we get every year.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Be sure to have a four wheel drive truck, a chainsaw, and a freezer too. Use a wood stove.
vietnameravet 2 years ago
I think the "paultards" label is hilarious.Maybe after our inflationary depression people will wake up and realise that Ron paul was right about the federal reserve,and we'll all be "paultards".Oh and by the way Hayek won the Nobel prize in economic science for pointing out how the federal reserve creates the boom-bust cycle,but Ron paul must just be some crazy idiot for doing exactly the same thing.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago
I love New Hampshire.Ive had the luxury of being born and raised in a state that has consistantly had a better economy,lower crime rate,better schools,lower tax burden,and more individual rights than most other states.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago 2
If there was a town exclusively for "Paultards" in New Hampshire I would move there.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago
How is it any different than a town exclusively developed for white christians?
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
IT was a joke there's no way NH would have a town specifically for any one segment of the population.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago
9/11 was an inside job
WTC7 collapse controlled demolition
PLEASE WAKE UP!!!
and demand NEW investigation in 9/11!!
911insidejob81 2 years ago
Thanks so very much for posting! Go New Hampshire!!! Live free or Die!!!! Right On!!!! Lets see when Obama will reveal himself, its only a matter of time!
Appleriver3 2 years ago
Dude, did you just see the comments I posted below you? Have fun freezing your ass off in the winter when the power goes out and you have to wait a week for PSNH to get it up and running (as was the case three months ago).
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Dear Freedom Projecters,
Once you move to my home state of NH, please be prepared for the following:
- Long and winding roads (only state where no roads are a straight line).
- About 5-8 blizzards in the winter (take my advice: invest in a generator. Your power WILL go out).
- If you move to Windham/Salem/Atkinson/Nashua area = about 90% of your neighbors will have immigrated from Malden/Lowell/Methuen or any other shit-town in Mass.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Continued:
- No income tax, but a fucking HUGE property tax (have to build those MC Escher roads some way).
- No boat = no social life (PLEASE trust me on this one. If you want to make new friends, show them your boat.)
- NOTHING to do unless you want to hike/fish/boat/run around in the woods all day. Or unless you want to venture into, as you would say, Tax-a-chusetts by driving down I-93 for over an hour in Boston commuter traffic.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Continued:
- Pretty leaves in the fall, BUT all the tourist leaf-peepers from NYC and Jersey.
- If you live in the Southern NH towns I mentioned, your children have a 1-in-3 chance of becoming full-blown potheads before they're 18 (about 1/3rd of my high school classmates smoked pot on a regular basis since weed is super-easy to score over there. Trust me, I go to college in California, and the pot content in NH is probably twice as high as it is here).
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
New Hampshire got cheated by state Rep Michael Rollo of Somersworth who lied and connived to get the sovereignty resolution defeated.
fremontr 2 years ago
Keep in mind that NH did NOT pass the "10th Amendment" line-in-the-sand that has come up in the legislatures of some dozen different states recently.
So "in an uproar" is a gross overstatement.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I believe you're just reacting to seeing news that doesn't pander to the US government party line.
Really strange, isn't it? So very different from the lap-dog press in the US.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
Call this number every week but only if you can handle the TRUTH.
1-888-322-1414
"TRUTH is treason in the Empire of LIES" - Ron Paul
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
watch hbo's john adams mini series. history does repeat.
noquitter702 2 years ago 2
New Hampshire is always upset about something. The end result, New Hampshire is all talk and no action. It has been since it's conception in 1788.
njattack 2 years ago
. We're frozen by maces,
fear those in high places.
FreedomHooter 2 years ago
Live Free or Die....works for me.
vietnameravet 2 years ago 8
I live in New Hampshire and these people are very fringe politically here. I was on the Libertarian Party mailing list and even voted for Brown for President, but they got less than 5 percent of the vote, way less, that year. America is not just people who love and own guns, with bear and antelope heads on the walls. Try Jeanne Shaheen, the former Governor just elected U.S. Senator for this State. Try John Sununu, her opponent, now sitting on the Board at Time-Warner. Russkie troublemakers.
mdelcamp1 2 years ago
Private guns is exceptionally rare in the rest of the world, unless one is actively fighting. To simply "carry" one is strange, "man bites dog" news. No surprise that it would be right up front in this report.
What the "reporter" ignored was the reason stated for the level of disgust: Rabid federal spending and intrusiveness.
Such intrusion and spending is perfectly normal, you see, so "dog bites man" news is ignored.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I love ya New Hampshire...get that sovereignty. If I could afford it I'd consider moving there. Florida is beautiful but our government sucks. Its like a police state here compared to you.
llshamelessll 2 years ago 2
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Oh Paultards... LOL!
jpbalkenende 2 years ago
I want to move to NH.
bryandenehy76 2 years ago 2
because we don't have a sales tax yet.Unfortunately hcr6 was voted down.
dirtbagstatus 2 years ago
Hell yeah! I'm looking for property right now there. thanks for the info! Hey, save me a house!
But the property taxes are extremely high there I hear???
happygalmarried 2 years ago
This video is really good! I love youtube and how it always inspires me to keep watching more! haha it's true (= entertaining stuff when i'm AT WORK!
Chick6517 2 years ago 2
Fellow Patriots,
In case you haven't been told yet, our movement is currently under fire and in question. A document released on 2/20/09 to the Missouri Highway Patrol has directed the officers focus to recognize certain icons as potential "Paramilitary" or unconstitutional "Militia".
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
Unfortunately, most of the imagery or icons used are related to our freedom movement, including Dr. Ron Paul, the movie "America: Freedom to Fascism", and upside down flags are all bundled into a category of potential "Paramilitary".
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
We are alarmed by this document for many reasons, but the most immediate is due to the Campaign For Liberty Regional Conference being held in St. Louis at the end of March, 2009. We feel that we WILL be PROFILED by Missouri police officers, when in reality we do not pose threats.
We are asking for your help, and this is only stage ONE of this project. Please call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission.
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
Let them know because of this Document, you are concerned about traveling to Missouri. Tell them you don't want to be a target of profiling, and because of this document you CANNOT support a states economy that DOES NOT support or 1st Amendment rights without being labeled as potential threats.
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
Action NEEDED:
1. Call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce and tell them that you are withdrawing your reservations to Ron Paul's Regional Conference and moving to the IL side out of concern of being PROFILED.
(314) 231-5555
2. Call the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission and tell them you won't visit Missouri because of "political profiling". (800) 325-7962
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
3. Call the Missouri Information Analysis Center (MIAC) and tell them their generalized information is hurting the image of PEACEFUL FREEDOM LOVERS, and ask them how you can help make this document BETTER! (866) 362-6422 and (573)-526-6115
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
4. If you are not attending the Campaign for Liberty Regional Conference, call the St. Louis Chamber of Commerce (314-231-5555) and the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission (800-325-7962) and tell them you will not be visiting or spending your money in Missouri because of "political profiling" by the MIAC.
Thanks to Bryon Huber and Catherine Bleish from the Liberty Restoration Project for their diligent efforts to draft the action plan in response to this latest threat to liberty.
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
The actions of the MIAC will not go unnoticed by the American people.
We need your overwhelming support in this action. Please forward, post, blog, comment, tweet, and spread this message to every freedom related social network and forum you can find.
Forever in Freedom,
Gary Franchi
RTR National Director
l Director
P.S. Comment and discuss this emergency action here:
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NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
P.S.S. Download the MIAC Document here:
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NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
Tell your Congressman/Woman to support Dr. Paul's HR 1207 and Audit the Fed.
AuditTheFed(.)tk
Watch the movie. The Obama Deception.
ObamaDeception(.)tk
Fax the Media and tell them to report the news that Obama has yet to provide his Birth Certificate.
FaxTheMedia(.)tk
NoBailout4Banksters 2 years ago
WORD~!
JamJHolmes 2 years ago
I am so glad even states with some of the most "liberal" laws are changing their attitude towards the federal government. I just simply can't express how distressed I am in what is going to happen.
StrwberryCoff 2 years ago
This is why I'm moving to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project. (I'm the one in the video with the orange jacket and Glock 26 on his hip.)
If you care about your freedom, this is the place to be. But we need you to make it happen. Meet us at the Porcupine Freedom Festival this June, experience the Live Free or Die state, and realize what an amazing group of pro liberty activists that will be there for you when you make the move.
NealJiutai 2 years ago 2
OnGaurd4Liberty,
The FSP isn't just about libertarians. It is about all liberty activists. They may call themselves libertarians, anarchists, conservatives, freemarketeers, classical liberals, jefferson democrats or something else. As long as they care about liberty and are working towards positive change in that direction.
wyomingliberty 2 years ago
they should have voted for ron paul.
they gave us Obama and McCain.
they have no one to blame but themselves.
merrimac291 2 years ago
I like New Hampshire.I think I'm going to move over there soon.
IHateReligiousNuts 2 years ago 5
I miss the serenity of believing I lived under a good government, wisely designed and benevolent in its operation. But there comes a time to put away childish things.
vlastic 2 years ago 3
Chris (Lawless) awesome last name,good name for this story.The Federal government should stay out of the states business,states should make there own laws and the Federal government should go back to the post office game, and make sure my mail is on time but for real the Federal government needs to back off,or next they will pass law so people cant grow there own food.Oh wait, there are trying to do that H.R 875
juicejrc 2 years ago
(About Obama); "just because he is charismatic and well spoken does not make a good leader- it makes good TV".. you said it, brother..
Steenville 2 years ago 3
his chin is bigger than J.Leno 1:55
Tallguynsac 2 years ago
New Hampshire voted for McCain over Ron Paul....FUCK YOU NEW HAMPSHIRE, FUCK YOU ALL .
Forshman 2 years ago 5
Did Ron Paul win your state?
Dreepa 2 years ago 2
There aint shit in New Hampshire. Who the hell wants to go there?
diah4 2 years ago
Isn't this the same state that stole the primary elections? Reports had come in that they had mad fradulent voting going on in New Hampshire. Interesting to see that they are the ones once again attempting something. Something is def. wrong with the New Hampshire state.
EmeterioBetances 2 years ago
62% of New Hampshire Business is Distribution....That means products from outside the state. Good luck with seceding You anti-American losers. ((((((((((
)))))))))))The Federal goverment have been breaking, bending, changing and mangling laws since before you were born...nothing changed MORONS...THATS AMERICA!
dman71215 2 years ago
there is nothing in this clip about 'seceding.'
And did you ever hear of 'trade'.
Most things are made in the USA... we 'trade' with other nations.
Dreepa 2 years ago
how much of american cars do you think are actually made in the us?
lezlitaz 2 years ago
It is so funny that New Hampshire is right next to Massachusetts which is the most Liberal state.
Pnkbong 2 years ago 2
When I lived in Massachusetts I noticed it was MUCH less intrusive into personal matters than California. Pay your taxes and they pretty much left you alone.
Oh, and NEVER disrespect a cop in Massachusetts. Ever.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
California is more libertarian than Mass, Mass is far more progressive.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Ok, you Easterners, when the US disintegrates and the Republic of California declares itself as a separate country, you all have to get a visa to visit our sunshine state. You will all be forbidden to emigrate. too, unless you have relatives who are already here!
Remember, currently, California is the 6th largest economy in the world, all the other states like NH will be like Greenland or Belgium, or may even become failed states like Pakistan! Let the US disintegrate now! Viva California!
ElxPinoyxMatador 2 years ago
LOL ya, cali is the most bankrupt state in the union as well :) You guys can keep your socialism.
JojahBoy 2 years ago
What about the millions of Mexicans in California without a green card? Didn't stop them at the gates.Plus the United States of America,is not going to disintegrate,they just need to stop push big government down the states throat and let them decide whats best for there state.
juicejrc 2 years ago
No income tax in NH
No sales tax in NH
How high are the taxes in CA?
Can you own guns in CA?
How is your traffic?
I am ok with not buying things from CA.
Dreepa 2 years ago 2
Another Californian confirming that it is all just a land of make believe.
Keep your fake tits, fake government and La-la land. Us "Easterners" could give two shits.
And don't come crying for help when the "big one" hits.
DrunkenPublicness 2 years ago
What a wonderful idea! California should secede RIGHT NOW!
Bravo! Best of luck.
California pays more in Fed taxes than they get anyway, it would be a boon for the state to go independent.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I think I should add that, as someone who lived in NH for 14 years, this video is hardly accurate. Yes there are people who have guns (my parents' house is 5 minutes from the very active gun range) but from my experience I haven't seen anyone actually carry a handgun 24-7. Also, where are you "freedom people"/Paulies going to move to exactly? Northern NH is nothing but mountains and cows, southern NH is Bostonian refugees. Take your pick.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
You'll get no disagreement about the "accuracy" of this story from me, it's a hit-piece that's for sure.
My preference is mountains and cows, thank you. I loved northern CA, as far from the haze of streetlights as it was possible to get. Glorious. And I miss the snow of New England.
The question is, where are all the people who want welfare going to go when there is no more welfare? Massachusetts.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
Dude, I'm taking about NH, not California.
I'm wondering, if you really are so frustrated about all the shit going down in your home state, why not just fix the problems in your home state instead of establishing an anti-social community in NH? I have no idea how you people think.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
"in your home state"
And just what state might that be?
"an anti-social community"
So you have done no actual investigation of the Free State Project at all. Otherwise, you would never have called them "anti-social", because the very reason for its existence is social cooperation.
It is the people who advocate coercion, force, prohibition, regulation, regimentation and taxation who are anti-social, who are driven by envy and arrogance to punish success and reward sloth.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I was talking about all the free-staters coming to NH from Florida, Ohio, Texas, and elsewhere.
What I mean by "anti-social community" are these communities they're planning on creating in already established towns which will be exclusively Paultards.
I agree that a police state is anti-social, which is why I'm against states, but at the same time this "project" isn't going to get off the ground much especially since the goal is to play the political field instead of building new institutions.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
"Paultards"? How pathetic.
To bemoan the FSP for moving to a single state is to misunderstand the entire purpose of the FSP.
Ian on FreeTalkLive pointed out that being dispersed has done NOTHING to prevent the growth of the state. So far, the FSP has already had an effect.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
There's always Keen.
freekeen.c om
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I hope you like drunken college students...
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Only if they're female.
But beyond that, I misspelled FreeKeene.c om
CurtHowland 2 years ago
the time is coming for a state to be on its own , just as soon as each state refues to comply with the national ID card, they wil not be getting any
funds or any money. they will be santioned..
starshine49 2 years ago 2
Right on que
wildchildplasma 2 years ago
"..Live Free or Die.." means you will NOT regulate me out of feeding myself, you will NOT regulate my self-protection (gun) and you will NOT make me dependent on the US Gov't for my food,clothes and housing.. I will die first.. that's what Live Free or Die means..
Dewdaahman 2 years ago 5
It was also your right at one time to own a slave. We did out with that. Countries that put a ban on guns have less crime. By your logic lincoln was a socialist. I always love how you right wing nut jobs always say government needs to be small and not interfere with our lives. Yet you people pass laws preventing 2% of our country from getting married. You make it so the gov. tells me what I can or cannot put in my body. Can you say hypocrites?
warcraft1920 2 years ago
Libertarians are NOT right-wingers. Libertarians are "fiscally conservative" (like Republicans) and "socially liberal" (like Democrats). Libertarians are in favor of maximum self-governance, liberty, and personal responsibility. The vast majority of libertarians would like to see the government ignore religious matters like marriage. And just about every libertarian will agree that the government should not be telling you what you can and can't put in your body. Read up on libertarianism.
ufsparky 2 years ago 3
Ron Paul isn't a libertarian then, I take it.
juliaisafilmbuff123 2 years ago
Ron Paul is a Republican, always has been. He's the most libertarian Republican I've ever seen, though.
ufsparky 2 years ago
warcrati1920, you obviously don't know the difference between a right winger and a libertarian. The Free State Project is a libertarian group.
OnGuard4Liberty 2 years ago
There are right wing libertarians.. there are also left wing libertarians, I'd consider myself one of them.
DMPineau 2 years ago
"There are right wing libertarians.. there are also left wing libertarians, I'd consider myself one of them." --
Being on the fringe "wing" implies that you don't agree with any of the other side's beliefs and libertarianism has elements of both right and left (in that it thinks everyone should be free to do what they want so long as they don't hurt others).
So...as a "left wing libertarian," do you believe in gun rights, free markets without regulation, etc?
OnGuard4Liberty 2 years ago
The American Libertarian party's philosophy is only one specific brand of Libertarianism. Libertarianism is a huge body of ideas characterized by anti-authoritarianism and anti-statism, it runs from right to left. I'd categorize the US Lib Party's politics as classic liberal and very similar to the paleoconservatives.
I believe in a minimal state role, a direct democracy, and the abolition of private enterprise and their replacement by independent, worker-owned cooperatives.
DMPineau 2 years ago
So yeah, I believe in gun rights and free markets with little regulation, but I'm against privatization.
DMPineau 2 years ago
"So yeah, I believe in gun rights and free markets with little regulation, but I'm against privatization." --
Privatization of WHAT? Free markets = private markets as the government by definition is not free; it's only power is to make laws and laws are enforced, not freely, but through force.
OnGuard4Liberty 2 years ago
Privatization means individual ownership of capital. I'm not advocating government ownership of capital, but stakeholder ownership. Free markets are characterized by an absence of government regulation, whether or not that market is dominated by private enterprise or not is another issue.
DMPineau 2 years ago
I think you and DM's argument is an excellent example of being distracted by minutia.
Libertarians eschew the initiation of force. Coercion.
Once violating the right of the individual to choose for themselves, "left" and "right" become private, personal preference like vanilla or chocolate. Nothing to argue about.
It is government intrusion into people's lives which engenders hostility and conflict. Government CREATES CHAOS.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
"there are also left wing libertarians"
So many people just DO NOT GET THAT!
Some people start by believing their private choices are sacrosanct, others that their public choices are. By realizing that in order to ensure one's own rights one must FULLY respect the rights of others, one reaches the roots of Libertarian philosophy.
I keep being accused of being "right wing" just because I loath big government. But wasn't Hitler "right wing"? Bush? Franco?
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I live in Massachusetts, New Hampshire's neighbor. New Hampshire (and all of New England) is indeed one of the most liberal states, second probably only the California (Where even the Republicans are practically Libs). The one problem they have in this way is there "grassroots" mentality. This causes a "California Uber Alles" effect that basically translates into that people say they are for liberal ideas, but by promoting the jucket mentality they actually promote the opposite.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
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skateithard 2 years ago
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Vasilerr 2 years ago
AIG Bonuses Add to Potential for Public Revolt against Wall Street, Federal Reserve
amricaiscowardnation 2 years ago
Great people! Liberty or dead because it ain't great fun to be a slave.
Demetrenos 2 years ago 2
So proud of the Free Staters, I plan to join them as soon as I can.
Amy31415 2 years ago 5
That's libertarian. They have the most libertarian laws in the country. If they had the most liberal laws things would be different. For example, they'd have to register their guns and certainly couldn't carry them around with them.
sniper6081 2 years ago 3
Agreed.
teewillis1981 2 years ago
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Libertarian - Fundamentally liberal but economy conservative.
No they are for the most part very liberal, but their backwoods mentally causes some odd turnups. NRA members are like religious people, always willing to bend to get what they want. The constitution says "well regulated militia" does not translate to "Everyone running around with semi-autos" to most people.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
The problem with your thinking is that you think the constitution tells us what our rights are. That's the sign of someone who is very uneducated. The constitution tells what the government can and cannot do. We are free men. We can do whatever we want so long as we do not harm anyone else. As long as this is understood we shall remain free. If it is forgotten we will lose our freedom. Like right now for instance.
sniper6081 2 years ago 8
I like your thinking, and it is both optimistic and more reasonable. However, it is not reality. In reality the constitution literally is our rights, as it was written and as it is enforced. We are, in fact, subject to it and the law. I don't like this at all, however it is the truth.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
No that's not it at all. It' isn' our rights. The Founders knew that giving government to state our rights mean that they had the right to take them away from. That's why they made our constitution so that it would restrict the government and leave us alone. Just read the Bill of Rights and you'll see: cannot search without a warrant, cannot use cruel and unusual punishment, cannot do unreasonable searches and seizures. Just read the history and you'll see.
sniper6081 2 years ago 4
What part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
Also - calling libertarians 'backwoods' is horribly incorrect.
geheg3d 2 years ago 5
Something about commenting on a Russian video assures that no one understands English.
The second amendment is directly referring to a "well regulated militia". Meaning if you are part of a civil, organized, and authorized militia you have the right to bear arms.
I never called libertarians backwoods you pathetic imbecile. I stated that the odd conflict between New Hampshire's liberal stance mixed with backwoods culture made them more of libertarians than liberals.
Please pay attention.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
Amendment II, begins with the comment:
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
Then goes on to state:
The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
I fail to see where the right to bear arms is restricted to the militia when the second statement gives the only explicit declaration (in English) of a right to THE PEOPLE.
If it was restricted to the militia, then why did the founders not enforce the restriction to that effect?
poohtoob 2 years ago 2
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
No part of the statement is referring to specific states. When they say a "free state" they are referring to the definition of state that most of the world uses being a centrally run government and running a nation not defined by it's culture. In these times the states would have been referred to as colonies or provinces unless noted as separate.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
"the definition of state that most of the world uses"
False. It's not the "United State of America".
The several states regarded themselves as individual sovereign nations, which then ceded some of their power to a central organization in order to better coexist both within and without.
Have you ever actually READ the Constitution? Its not very long, nor difficult language. Little of it is taught in public school, sadly, so you kind of have to go look it up yourself.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
There is no transition within the amendment referring to the colonies. This is mainly due to the fact (other than the plain English) that the constitution does not refer to them, because it is the FEDERAL constitution of the UNITED STATES. (A good example of when state was used to refer to the sub-states of the UNITED states IE state.)
The entire amendment is referring to militias just as it is clearly stated in the opening sentence.
PS Arms are a weapon of offense or defense by definition.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
"is referring to militias"
English is not your first language, obviously.
The first part is an explanatory clause. It does not MODIFY the operative clause, at all.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
I'll let the ignorance of the one stand as self evident of your stupidity and hypocrisy.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
It is not stupidity or hypocrisy to state a simple fact.
economics.gmu.e du/wew/quotes/arms.h t ml
"the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
A "militia" that is capable of effective defense is merely a byproduct of the general right to keep and bear private arms. Look it up.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
You can rewrite the definition but it will not change the facts. The amendment was intentionally short, to the point, and clearly written so that people like you could not change the meaning.
By the was that link was completely incoherent. Besides youtube slaughtering it even corrected it is not a valid URL. When you search for "The Right to Bear Arms" on the site you only get references to articles by professors at GMU. Furthermore even if it did, it would still be an opinion piece.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
"clearly written so that people like you could not change the meaning."
I'm not rewriting anything. The link, if you remove the spaces, is to quotations by the people involved in writing and ratifying the Constitution itself, and every single one of them presents it as an individual Right not dependent upon any militia.
If you search for the quote from Trench Coxe I provided, you will also find plenty of other sources.
Both the Federalist Papers, and the Anti-Federalist papers, say the same.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
While utterly ignorant, your NRA comment does ring somewhat true.
The NRA is functionally an arm of the Republican party.
Libertarians gravitate toward Gun Owners of America (GOA) and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO) instead.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
CurtHowland: An authoritarian militant such as yourself calling me ignorant is comical at best. Just a fleeting glimpse at favorites reveals an uneasy pattern.
Teenagefreedomfightr 2 years ago
Hahahahaha!
"Authoritarian"? Please, describe to me how wanting to leave people alone makes me "authoritarian". This is a new use for the word which I've never heard before.
You are ignorant, since you continue to state the 2nd Amendment has some dependency upon a militia.
No, not "ignorant": Deliberately disingenuous.
Ignorant implies that you might be able to learn, if presented with the facts. You have been presented, but you refuse. That's beyond ignorant: you're a liar.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
almost half of our 50 states have made sovereignty resolutions since Obama became president. Look it up. you can find the resolutions online and confirm them on the states website.
personally, i support this. Fuck The Government!
killedbycrows 2 years ago 2
Not near half, and the resolution FAILED in NH. (on a nearly perfect Dem=no Rep=yes vote)
Which I find extremely interesting all by itself, since Reps are just as much in favor of big central government as Dems are, in PRACTICE.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
REVOLUTION NOW!
crinoid1918 2 years ago 4
I wanted to say If the polls dont reflect your beliefs they are lies? Correction of my first post...
warcraft1920 2 years ago
A whole new meaning? Not exactly, they are bringing back the original meaning, the meaning the United States was founded on.
GivettheGAS 2 years ago 4
Rep. Itse and Congressman Ron Paul both endorse the Free State Project. Check it out!
freestateproject (dot) org
dmgoddard 2 years ago 4
I wonder why this doesnt make national news in the US...
sidrosteel 2 years ago 4
The same reason RT didnt report that some American banks made a profit last quarter.
warcraft1920 2 years ago 2