I suggest you keep cycling, shrug off what you may seem as ignorance, near miss. And respect the motorist and they'lll respect you. Remember you are cycling to keep fit, if you feel angry in any way vent it out on your pedals and don't stop for anyone.. Your dam lucky you don't have to pay the price of fuel, any inconvenience won't burn a hole in your pocket.It just seems ludicrous why anyone would deliberately risk hitting you, loss of licence and injurying another fellow human being.
@EinkOLED You keep moaning about motorists paying for fuel - you know that driving isn't obligatory right? And its not 'luck' that cyclists don't pay for fuel.
Reguardless if you gave enough room or not, you was infront, the car decided to pass did not have enough space, he was more mad that he hit you and you had alittle go, tbh i drive and cycle, if i see a cyclist, i leave more than enough room to pass (if he gives me room ill thank him/her) and on my bike if there is a lane for us ill take it. This happened to be with a white van man, he was not happy and tryed the white van man act. lol
Many years ago, I had a friend who dicovered herbal medicine. Almost weekly, he would go down to the pub and regail us with yet another story of how he had "cured" an illness with herbalism.
It became tiresome, yet he was a friend, so we indulged him.
After many, many months of this, I asked him "How is it you are always getting sick?"
Lately I've begun wondering, why is it that proponents of the "primary" cycling position experiencing so many near accidents?
@hassoun6 I always imagine this guy calling his local Police station...."Hello it's me again. Another car overtook me again today". Police officer (rolling eyes) "That's terrible Sir, I'll get my best men on it right now". ;-)
man always taxis, what cam are you using as im thinking of getting a cam after loads of close calls. Best one i had was few weeks back car peeps at me they are over taking on a blind bend lorry pulls out on them they have to stop i catch up did not make any fuss they whent into reverse and tried running me over nice people on the road ay
I believe in this instance, you should have been riding much further to the left between 0:40 and 0:49. There is a difference between lane guarding for safety, and riding in the middle of the road for no apparent reason. The road is wide enough there for even a truck to pass safely. The end of the story is, vehicles ALWAYS try to overtake. Unless it's neccesary (ie. Car doors opening), be considerate for those wishing to pass.
The problem is bikes are too slow and unpredictable for todays fast moving,busy roads. Like an old woman driving 30 in a 60 zone is more of a problem than the guy going 70 overtaking people.
I have. In fact, as I work in MRI I have plenty of evidence (research scans). Also having done some functional MRI I can also confirm that, not only do I have a brain, it functions as well.
@magnatom Nice one! Speaking of magnets - you should get some bumper stickers/magnets printed and everytime you catch up to an offending car just slap it on the back and ride off. "You Tube! - Magnatom"
how about not riding in the middle of the road, when i cycle i hug the curb because i know what its like from a drivers perspective coming up behind a bicycle. you stretched your arm out fully touching the taxi window, meaning you had a good 2 ft at least clearence.
' you were in the middle of the road', yet again, drivers are ignorant of the laws of the road. they assume we shouldn't be there when in fact it's perfectly within our rights, and in fact safer to do so sometimes.
@thetttttttttttt We all have rights we don't use and laws that we ignore. There is being courteous. It isn't in the highway code to thank a driver with a flash / hazard light blip but we all do it. You didn't NEED to be in the middle and while you have the right you were being annoying. I have the right with 2 mates to drive our cars on the motorway side by side doing 50, doesn't mean we should post a video of us pissing people off, then complain about them.
I would suggest you get less shouty. If you'd been calmer when talking to him after you stopped, there's a chance - a slight one - that a good explanation of what he did wrong would change his driving.
Anger just begets more anger really. Though trust me, I know road anger.
Funny how he's so impatient that he'll do a stupid overtake, but then stop to argue with you! What does he even say to you?
very true. people are idiots. this man is passing cars in some of his videos, and people are still so stupid that they must endanger him and the other drivers for absolutely no reason
Where I live if you ride in teh middle of the road with your bike you're breaking the law. But over there I guess there are fewer laws restricting cyclists?? 0_0
Either way, the guy in the taxi simply misjudged a takeover.
Hope you reported him mate, I cant understand how waiting behind you for 10 more seconds and he would have had the room to pass wasnt good enough for him.
Riding past a line of parked cars about 200 yards from my house I got "that feeling" of impending doom and pulled in suddenly. As I did so a car overtook me.
My left wrist, elbow and bar-end were in contact with a parked car.
My right elbow and bar end were clipped by the overtaking car.
My bars were in physical contact with two cars, one moving and one parked, at the same time.
To this day I can't figure out how I stayed upright.
I have had closer passes than that. One day a stupid clueless driver left me 3 inches of room! But yeah that was stupid and im sure it was not legal my any means. He deserves a citation for endangering you and putting you at risk for being hit.
1. Nothing wrong with the cyclists lane position that I can see.
2. I see bonehead cyclists and pedestrians every day doing things that irritate me. I still try to avoid killing them. What that motorist did was uncalled for in any situation.
I've just watched the video again and Magnatom has pretty much arrived at the obstruction when the taxi overtook him. Even if he'd hugged the curb coming off the island he'd have to change his road position by that point anyway (which is more dangerous for him). It's safer to control the situation as he did. Afterall, the taxi would have reached his destination at exactly the same time, so it was a pointless overtake.
Guys, safety is the only issue to consider here, pls try and be rational.
Magnatom was riding in the middle of a 6.2m wide lane, thats wide enough for two cars - what on earth is rational about that?!?
Safety is not the only consideration, it is merely the foremost. If safety was the only consideration, he shouldn't have been cycling at all on that morning!
This is not an issue of time, if it was the driver would not have stopped to exchange choice words; it is about consideration.
How can anyone cycle anywhere without changing road position?
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
You were riding almost in the middle of the road Magnafruitcake, and you crossed over the chevron markings on the roundabout, which is an offence under the road traffic act. You only have yourself to blame you ignorant retarded idiot. Learn to ride FFS!!
No wonder half of Scotland is baying for your blood!
Astonishingly stupid driving. The driver impatiently bullies his way past then stops in the middle of the road to start an argument. If I was the cyclist I'm not sure I would have kept my temper, he basically nearly kills you...for what? He gains nothing and if he's in such a hurry why stop to slag you off? What a staggeringly bad piece of driving, that this numbskull idiot sociopath cabbie is still using the roads is chilling...
Rearranging some of those words: Magnatom cycled "in the middle of the road to start an argument." Dont forget, this is a REALLY wide road, it is not a pinch point as claimed (unless you think a 6.2m wide entrance is one?)
Your question is answered: he obviously wasnt in a hurry if he stopped to slag off magnatom (that's understandable).
I note the conclusion to the inquiry - I may not fully agree with it, but it is obvious to anyone with the facts that the driver was needlessly provoked.
How can someone minding their own business provoke anyone? Nobody as vulnerable as a cyclist wants to provoke an argument. Its just a fact of life that you have to cycle a certain way to reduce the danger posed to you by other road users.
If that upsets the taxi driver that's his problem, he still has to drive in accordance with the highway code and if he'd done that in this case everyone would have been on their way with a smile on their face, instead the taxi driver chose to drive dangerously
I might be stating the bleeding obvious, but you film this video on 6 Jan and a new member joins on 9 Jan and gives you continual hassle. Could the two events be linked.
BTW I admire your perseverance , I would have told them where to go and blocked them after the 2nd or 3rd comment.
Wanting to block comments without good reason is a sure sign of sign of a bigot. Kudos to Magnatom for allowing all my comments (even if he doesnt respond to them).
You're reading something into nothing. I have no link with the driver (or anyone else in magnatoms videos). Anyone implying such a link would be foolish. Is it really any surprise that someone comments soon after a video is published?
Your first pinch point (rounabout exit) is another lie. It is 6.25 meters wide (+/- 5%).
A car with a width in excess of 2m is a rarity. Assuming you were being considerate:
A wide car could have given itself 1m clearance on the right (much more than reasonable), so leaving you 3.25 meters. Your handlebars would by a max of 70cm wide, so leaving you a real clearance, on both sides, of 1.275m (from your handle bars). Is that not enough?!?
Im obsessive about those who are obsessive about antagonising other road users. Perhaps now you have a taste for what you're giving, except I'm being sincere and have justified my arguments beyond refute (thus far)!
Oh, so now all comments are pending approval all of a sudden? Seems to me like you know youve been exposed for a lazy, antagonistic cyclist, as well as a deceitful poster. Lets see if you continue to allow me to have and air my opinion.
As is the case with all of my videos, which is prudent considering some of the comments I receive. Some very obsessive and weird youtube posters out there. Especially the ones who set up an account just to hassle another youtube member..... ;-)
Blimey you still causing agro on the streets of Glasgow, Magnatom?! Sometimes one wonders if this has more to do with getting your 15 minutes of fame that Andy Warhol promised us, rather than promoting road safety!!!
Hey nethalus! Aye, still getiing into fights every day! ;-)
Actually the 3 months leading up to Christmas were great. No problems at all. Then this happens. So I called my promoter Frank Warren, and he told me to post my video here as it would make me rich and famous. So here I am, waiting for the fame and glory. Let the good times roll!
You set out with the purpose of causing a scene. Terrible cycling. I'm appalled that you would use Franklin's cyclecraft to even justify this tactic. Admit it, you were wrong.
Of course I did. You are right. LOL! I cycle along this road in a similar way 5 days a week, 46 weeks a year with little or no problem. Then one day an idiot passes through a gap that just isn't there. Yes it was my fault entirely and I had adjusted my position just to pass within centimetres of his window and wing mirror. Please accept my apologies!
"gap that isn't there" - yet the driver found one without having to cross the divider marking, even with you band in the middle. Of course the gap could have been more than enough if you hadn't hogged the centre of the lane.
You have no reason to remain in the middle, short of wanting to take the shortest possible line (you were lazy at the expense of convenience of others), or to be antagonistic so you can get fame by recording the inevitable response. Personally, I think its a bit of both.
Yes while placing me in significant danger. That in my book is not a gap. Oh and he did cross the white line, that is why the car on the other side hit his horn.
What you think doesn't really matter here anyway. What will matter in this situation is what the licencing board make of it. Why don't we just wait and see what they say when they make their judgement?
The passing car did not cross the divider, I can clearly see it at 1:26.
If you were considerate and didn't remain in the middle, that gap would have been a lot bigger; can you really disagree with that?!?
You don't *know* who honked, you merely *think* it was the jeep. Theres no need for the jeep driver to honk? It's much more likely the passing driver honked at you, well he did stop to give you words too!
So my opinion doesn't matter when your argument disappears in a puff of logic?
...and how can you tell that the cars far tyre is not over the white line?
I know for a fact that the passing car did not honk. I was there remember, who else would honk? The honk occurs just at the time you expect an oncoming car to hit it's horn, doesn't it!
had the driver been patient and waited behind there would have been no reason to even consider if there was a gap or not, would there?
The car is further away from the jeep than the jeep to the line.
'Who else would honk?' Didn't I just answer that? You 'know for a fact' even though your first response to this was 'I think it was the jeep that hit the horn', your conjectures are not facts! The honk occurs when the blue car is next to you, which is the most effective time to communicate displeasure.
Had you been considerate (not antagonistic) there would have been no reason for the small gap or the close pass, would there?
I know for a fact that the beep did not come from the car next to me, as I was next to the car at the time! I cannot be sure who else the beep came from, but the situation strongly supports my hypothesis that it was the jeep. Circumstantial, but very likely.
Had the driver been patient (as in my latest video) then there would have been no gap to consider in the first place.
You 'know for a fact', even though you 'cannot be sure' and it is 'Circumstantial' ?!? Please!
The situation points to the passing car tooting you to reinforce the conveyance of his displeasure to you; there goes your hypothesis!
Your last comment is also redundant, there was a gap to consider; the bad pass driver proved that.
Had you been considerate, there would have been a wide gap with overhead for bailout; hence there's no reason for the small gap or the close pass, yes?
Magnatom craved an adverse reaction so he could video it, potentially giving himself further media coverage, so furthering his ego (or hatred for drivers). This is an obvious reason.
if you claim that if your palm on his window means he is only centimetres away from you,you must have a very small arm!it looks to me like the car is atleast a yard away from your handlebar.
hi.. i used to cycle in london daily for 2 years, cars maintain 30 a cyclist cannot exceed 20 or 25 and this causes cars to catch up and overtake cyclists all the time! which is very dangerous specially if there are no cyclist lane! i am a car driver as well! I do NOT recommend people cycling unless there are cycling lanes! my advice for cyclist is to get a motorbike or a moped! its much safer since they can maintain the speed limit! also they have mirrors, lights, horns and engine sound!
Do you understand irony? In this case magnatom was the one who thought he owned the road; the motorist responded by making a statement be it a bad one (as have a few others).
"This is my bit of tarmac. I'm not going to more over to let other road users pass me no matter how reasonable the desire. Moving left will cost me precious milli-seconds. Im certainly not going to brake to let others through. Im going to take the shortest route so saving a few cm of travelling. Nuts to everyone else; I dont care about them or how needlessly frustrated I make them feel"
No, I am saying, 'at the moment, I would feel in danger if you overtook me, due to the particular road layout and conditions. Could you wait for 15-20 seconds until it is clear to pass please?'
Ha, and you had the nerve to belittle me in a similar manner - here it is back at you:
'If that is your definition of danger you must have a hard time on the roads' - my what a coincidence, you suffer exactly that...
Someone who didn't own the road would have thought If the danger is actually there, should I wait 1 second to let others pass me? or Should I keep left so I cam make it clear for others to pass me? or If its so icy, should I take a bus instead?
Yes I would consider a pass within centimetres of my handlebars to constitute a dangerous pass. I think the majority would agree with me here. So what is your point?
Driving/cycling using the road in any way requires taking risks. Driving/cycling well is all about mitigating the risks as best you can. That's what I try and do. Isn't that what everyone should be doing, i.e. keeping within the speed limits, not drink driving, giving other road users consideration etc.
My point was: you ride as if you own the road; I never said/implied/hinted those passes weren't dangerous.
Look at the dangerous responses you get from these drivers, do you really think all these are indicative of your risk being reduced 'as best you can'?!?
How is needlessly blocking others giving consideration, or instead inciting road rage?
Looks like you need to check your definition of 'mitigating risks'!
Yes, risk is reduced. By taking a more dominant postion I give myself space on my left to bail out to, which I actually used in this instance (see how by the time we reach the pinch point I am close to the kerb.
You see, you say needlessly, I say it is required. There we differ. So I suggest that IMO and lots of other cyclists opinions (and two that have actually been there!) that I incited nothing. If you think I am inciting road rage, report me to the police. Please do.
Yes you gave yourself room (but that wasn't your intention), but you made it necessary because you were riding in your antagonistic style by needlessly blocking traffic, so increasing the possibility of a daft pass a self-fulfilling prophesy! You were 9 seconds from the pinch point when you entered the lane in the middle.
You say we differ, true, but you cannot substantiate your opinion (at least without lying and misrepresenting) after I have given reasoning why your actions were wrong.
Yes it was my intention. You have no way of proving otherwise, as to what my intention at that time was, so any suggestions by yourself are pure supposition.
I am still waiting to hear where I have lied (oh and the gap as I have now explained elsewhere from pinch point to pinch point is actually 6 seconds)
It cannot have been your intention. You still would have had plenty of room to bail out if you gave the car the safe gap needed to pass; the 'intention' is logically redundant, no supposition needed. Your first pinch point clearly isn't a pinch point, that's actually quite wide; I had already stated that within the previous round of comments.
Ive explained how you have lied repeated times (the ice was not the reason, you do it anyway); your lack of acknowledgement doesnt disprove it!
Yes, keep on reducing your risk by encouraging drivers to undertake you, pass you too close to you - and even braking in front of you; your efforts are bearing fruit!
I really would love an explanation of how I 'encourage' drivers to undertake or pass to close to me. Are you suggesting that drivers can't think for themselves....mmm, on occasion you may be right!
By riding needlessly on the right side when interacting with others rightly wishing to pass - of course! Your riding is the equivalent of a lane 3 numpty doing 40mph on an otherwise open and free-flowing NSL motorway - do these people not encourage undertaking?
It is not that these others dont think for themselves, it is that youre attempting to do the thinking for them, without giving them reasonable consideration.
...and you talk of strawman arguments. Hmm, comparing this situation with a outside lane driver on a motorway....!
Absolutely. I am trying to control the traffic around me, by road position, in a situation where I as a cyclist feel vulnerable. Is it for you to determine where I feel vulnerable or for me? There was plenty of opportunity to overtake 15-20 seconds later. Who is being inconsiderate here? Who is risking another road users life?
Prove I'm wrong otherwise accept thats another unsubstantiated claim from you.
Controlling traffic can be fine in some situations. The control you forced upon others in this and other vids is absolutely needless. If you werent so inconsiderate you wouldn't have been placed at such risk. Do you not understand how the other road users were making a statement to you (as opposed to merely wanting to pass at any cost)? The car and van werent in such a hurry because they both braked after passing!
It seems you don't want to think at all. It's perfectly possible to allow passing on that section of tarmac, hence the analogy stands. Remember, one of your other videos was about ..... wait for it .... a driver passing you on the left!!!!!
I've always said the driving standards of those who passed you too close were poor (another strawman from you). Regardless, they were making a clear statement regarding your antagonistic riding style, in that respect (only), their sentiments were correct.
Of course it is perfectly possible to allow passing. I could pull over and stop. That would of course hold me up, wouldn't it. So are you suggesting that a car, just because it is a car, has more right to a smooth and safe journey? Or do we all have equal rights. What about, and I know this is crazy, we respect the vehicle (whatever it may be) in front of us, and wait patiently until it is safe to pass. It's a mad idea, but it might just work. (and amazingly it did this morning!)
Two more strawmans. 1) Yes you can stop, also you don't need to stop: you can slow a bit (most motorway drivers do just that for each other); you can also even move to the left instead of remaining in the middle letting others pass safely without slowing. Do you know what slow moving vehicles are compelled to do on single-track roads when queues form behind them?
2) slow up (wasn't needed) not because it's a car but because 1 second from you can save them 15-20 seconds (your earlier estimate).
Have a look at my new video. No problem there and I am travelling at the same speed. Who acted differently here? Therefore, who can we conclude caused the incident...? No strawmen here! (you have a thing about strawmen!)
This doesn't detract from your previous erroneous strawmans, my prior points remain standing!
Your new video shows supports the view that drivers are individuals and very few will respond in a menacingly when needlessly impeded by selfish antagonistic riders. Youre still (part of) the cause of your own problem: if you didnt block then those drivers couldnt (and neednt) have risked your life. Therefore, who can we conclude caused those incidents...? See how your logic falls over?
As for what a slow moving vehicle (about 18mph here)I assume you refer to the HC
169:
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
So where is the queue of traffic? And would 15 or so seconds normally be considered a long delay? I don't think so. I get held up much longer than this by cars when I ride my bike. They don't move out of the way...
15 seconds is a longer delay than you wouldve suffered: none at all (without any additional risk).
Your question is answered & my point is proven: we all have equal rights; you neednt pull in just because it's a car and you're a cyclist. There probably wasnt a long queue behind you that time, that doesnt mean thats always the case.
When driving, I always move out of the way of cyclists where safely possible.
When I cycle, I notice drivers dont deliberately and needlessly block cyclists.
A driver passing on my left, although daft is nowhere near as dangerous as a car pulling in front of you on a roundabout or a car cutting across you from the inside lane on a roundabout. So you are saying that making a statement by passing close is a good sentiment?
Another silly strawman argument, is your only recourse to misrepresent my statements and use these fallacious statements as the basis for you to refute? To spell this out for you: they were making a statement regarding your antagonistic riding style. *How* they expressed themselves was wrong, but the *why* was correct, you were antagonistic them. Personally, I would have just beeped at you.
A car will undertake a bicycle much more often when its on the right than pull out when on the left.
So you think it is reasonable to get infuriated (I hope he was, to use his vehicle in this way. If not, I wouldn't want to be around when he was infuriated) by a vehicle ahead of you that holds you up for 15 seconds. Hmm. That is what leads to road rage. There is no place for impatience in safe driving, would you not agree?
Yeah, youre good at misrepresenting statements. Heres another: I didn't say it was reasonable to get infuriated. It is reasonable to feel frustrated when needlessly held up. (we being individuals means that some responses will be extreme (are you familiar with distributions and tails thereof?)).
Impatience: of course not, but it cannot always be avoided when someone encourages it.
There's no place for antagonistically inconsiderate positioning in safe riding, would you not agree?
No, Id use my horn to indicate that you're incorrectly using the lanes; my improper tooting wouldn't be encouraged if your positioning wasn't improper. Correct use of lanes; look it up! Even if you weren't blocking me and I saw you doing that to someone else, I would still toot you, for that same reason .... ooh, this leads us to somewhere interesting....
Then again, the driver could have been warning you that you're generally (as opposed to locally) at risk of being involved in an accident.
Visibility on roundabout: you're better seen if you keep left (due to the trees on the island blocking the view of vehicles approaching from behind) you were way over to the right so reducing visibility (from and of you); you cant use visibility as an excuse here.
Absolute rubbish! If you are at the left edge of a roundabout you are out of the normal line of view of vehicles coming on to the roudabout. You are at considerably more danger from cars entering the roundabout than you are from cars behind. I can assure you that cars behind me have no problem seeing me!
Out of view even though that's where drivers are looking to see if it's clear? Please! Your assurances mean nothing. Your prior reasoning has been proven to be erroneous and deceitful (and you like to windup others), so forgive me when I refuse to take what you say at face value.
:-) Oh, we are touchy! I make one joke about adding a negative on one of your posts and so I am always on the wind up. You must lead a very sheltered life!
On entering a roundabout, where would yo be looking for traffic, in the centre of the lane, where cars are found, or at the edge? Please answer this.
We are all at the mercy of joyriders. The only thing that we can do to mitigate this is prevention or punishment. That, is a discussion for another day!
More trolling now with ad hominem (a sure sign of disingenuous intentions).
When entering a roundabout I look for traffic regardless of where they are within it especially when people insist on using such poor lane discipline. You've just pooped on your own example: you went to the (right) edge where you implied others won't see you - oops! You only moved leftwards when you were at your exit as if you were taking the shortest possible line.
You're more at the mercy of joyriders than most...
Eh? I don't cycle on any right edge. i am slap bang in the centre of the lane! Obviously you have much better observational skills than the average driver then. I have seen many example of cyclists being missed when cycling close to the edge. All cycle training schemes will tell you to take the lane on a roundabout, and not the edge. Don't just trust me, go and find out for yourself!
So you were 'not on any right edge'? , so how would you describe your position at ~30 seconds into this video? Is that middle?!? Remember, each post in this sub-thread is about what happened at the *roundabout*, not after the exit. Please do keep up.
Yup. Centre of the lane. And yes I do go over the hatching just before. Go and look at the cyclechat thread I go into detail why experience on this roundabout suggests that this is the best line to take on this roundabout. I don't have time to reiterate just for you.
I'll admit I find it difficult to keep up. I have a life off the net and have other things to do. Amazing I know!
LOL! sooooo, you were in the centre of the lane at 30 seconds into your video... I think we can let the reader judge us both on that one.
And Im not reading another 50 pages of more of your bullcrap!
The way you ride, you won't have your life for long. I refer you to the very recent case of Christopher Thomas Thompson. But hey, as long as you think you're right there's no need to be safe! The day you happen across a joyrider...
Reader! LOL! You think anyone but you and I are following this! LOL!
Actually the stats are very much in my favour. On average cyclists (including those who have no thought for safety) on average live 2 years longer.
CTT is an idiot and one that no amount of good road positioning can avoid. I suggest though I am more likely to be killed walking across the road than cycling, by a driver like this...
You didn't acknowledge 'LOL! sooooo, you were in the centre of the lane at 30 seconds into your video... '.
My point which I've repeatedly alluded to is that your riding style is extreme, far from average, unless you really want to say the average cyclist is as highly antagonistic and inconsiderate as you?
CCT is an idiot whose threatening behaviour was based entirely on the positioning (2 abreast) of the unfortunate cyclists.
Im considering repeating all these in another forum.
In my vast cycling experience (I'm a london cyclist, in fact I rarely use my car) the vast majority of my rides/walks/drives are enjoyable and uneventful. The majority of drivers and cyclists are very courteous. In all walks of life I agree that there are bad apples, some of those like to encourage road rage.
No, by deliberately and repeatedly being an antagonistic rider by needlessly blocking other road users. Somehow I don't seem to suffer these events when I ride; even your friends on cyclechat have been pointing that out to you!
3 users have been pointing it out on cyclechat. One is a self confessed troll. One has already been warned a number of times on the forum for his behaviour (which is a lightly moderated forum), and the other thought I hit the car when it had stopped, not when it passed me!
You are also being selective. What was the verdict of the 2 independent cyclists who went to this bit of road to investigate it for themselves? And how many cyclists on that thread have agreed that I did nothing wrong?
Youve also admitted to trolling (your winding me up) so what?
It may well be that only a few in the thread were against your riding style. I only caught a few pages at the end of the thread (forgive me for not wanting to wade through all of that).
Remember, cyclists in general dont suffer incidents for 3% of their commutes (equates to one every 3 weeks - jeez); thats a big wake up call (before the inevitable distressing call to the rest of your family).
If that is your definition of trolling then you must have a hard time on the internet!
So you admit that your comments were based on a biased selection of comments?
I am sure most cyclists do have incident at about this rate. I don't post only dangerous incidents, I post incidents that show poor driving, cycling etc. So they don't all put me in direct danger (i.e. my road position often compensates for this). In 3.5 years road cycling, I have probably felt in real danger 2 or 3 times.
Lying and deliberately winding people up isn't trolling? Hard? Your logic is too easy!
My selection was based on what was at the end, irrespective of was there at that time. My only bias was not wanting to read the whole 40-page thread. Limiting myself to the last few pages of a large thread is not confirmation bias - do you even know a 'sample' is?
Yes you "are sure", whos applying bias? There's a strong correlation between posted instances of poor driving and your bad lane discipline.
Please point to any lies I have made? If you can't I will accept your retraction.
LOL! As for understanding what a sample is! I am a trained and working physicist! I can assure you that I understand sample and bias! Mmm, let me think, I run a study, and select the last few data sets to include for publication. This data just so happens to support my view, the rest of the data doesn't, is that biased? LOL!!
I have already explained the correlation between lane position and bad driving.
To repeat: you said ice was the reason for your position but you "cycle along this road in a similar way 5 days a week, 46 weeks a year" - is there ice there all year!
A trained and working engineer (inc. physics) and *statistician* trumps mere physics in this case. Theres no reason to suspect the sample data (end of thread) isn't representative of the whole population.
That thread itself is subject to bias - its in a cycling forum!
I point out the conditions on this occasion. On THIS occasion it is one MORE reason not to cycle in that area. I have published my reasons for not being there elsewhere, so I won't rehash.
What are you on about trumping! Do you actually know my publication record etc?!?! Anyway that does matter. As for small sections of a thread being a representative sample, LOL! Not only are your stats bad, but your understanding of how discussions ebb and flow in a forum thread are pretty poor as well!
No, the ice was clearly shown as being the sole reason, not one of others (there aren't others anyway). Please repeat your other 'reasons' for being in the middle of the lane. The ice reason is obviously redundant; you do it anyway hence it's not the reason!
It wasn't me who brought up qualifications. Do you know about my patent record? Forum threads tend not to ebb so much over that many pages! I also said the other contributors will tend to be biased by being supportive to one of their group.
So you missed the bit about 'leaving a roundabout and approaching a pinch point then (oh and as I leave the roundabout that is a pinch point as well due to the traffic island on my right)
Patent record! LOL! Beleive it or not I have one of those as well! (Approaching national phases)Search under my real name and you will find it. I also know that patents have nothing to do with science and everything to do with protecting commercialisation opportunities!
That pinch point is a full 9 seconds after entering the road at your speed; could you really not have pulled left that time?
What pinch point leaving the roundabout? Thats as wide as the lane afterwards!
I have 5 patents, all inventive in the hard sciences; I have another pending, related to .... oh wouldnt you know it .... stats! (a novel probability-optimised searching protocol utilising packet collisions actually).
Anyway, none of that detracts from the fact you lied.
The first was not a pinch point, leaving you 9 seconds.
I was trained in stats before I did my protocol work, meaning my training was a bit more broad than your implying; still it's more stats knowledge than you've got.
To repeat myself yet again (jeez): you clearly communicated that the ice was the sole reason for your positioning (not one of others, there aren't other reasons anyway). You've admitted to doing that anyway even without ice; simple logic dictates your ice reason is false!
Oooh, another negative without explanation. Keep it up folks, all you're doing is showing yourselves up as the immature, arrogant bigots you truly are!
Another thing: magnatom obviously does this everywhere, everyday. Yet hes posted only a few videos of close passes; that suggests that 'bad' motorists are few and far between (they may have been blocked previously and knew what to expect, so they snapped) and that everyone else is immensely considerate, even when following this chump!
I have said on many occasions that the vast majority of my rides are enjoyable and uneventful. The majority of drivers are very courteous. In all walks of life there are bad apples.
To the person who gave the negative: is that really the only response you can give? How is any of what I said not worthy of acceptance? Your silence will be deafening!
You said you were in the middle of the road due to potential ice, "It was -3C there was ice about, especially on unused road, so I wasn't going to go where there was likely to be black ice."
But you also cycle in the middle when it is bone dry without ice:
watch?v=Hg8wc1CMaB0&NR=1
(same stretch of road, same part of said road, all the way along).
There are at least 2 more videos where you needlessly cycle well into the lane and block.
I think you need to look up the definition of liar. LOL!
In the video you are linking to I would agree with you, that possibly I could have moved over earlier, with hindsight, however, what you have to remember is that whilst cycling I make split second decisions and in that video, at the start I was busy trying to work out what the van was up to, and by the time I thought about moving over it was too late (remember I am traveling at about 20mph in this video)
"possibly I could have moved over earlier" REALLY? You should have kept left from the roundabout. What the hell else did you think the van could have been trying to do!?! Was he going to turn off?
Regardless of your speed, you had plenty of time to let the van (& car) through, at least before the road narrowed - there were quite a few split seconds for you to think about it!
The fact that you do the same when the road is dry indicates your 'slippery' reasoning is a little redundant - yes?
Anyone who isnt trolling will easily be able to explain why they made such a comment.
So being in the right lane of such a multi-exit roundabout when youre upon your exit is the proper protocol? Magnatom even cycled over the arrow showing he was in the wrong lane. What do you say to that?
What you also have to remember is that my videos are not representative of my cycling, i.e. they all tend to happen at hotspots (which I know well). At these hotspots I tend to take a more assertive line to discourage poor overtakes. On the rest of my commute I tend to keep in a more secondary position.
I have cycled this particular stretch for about 2 years now, and in this direction I have had two incidents (cycle 5 days a week).
Overall I have incidents on approx 3% of my commutes.
As much as I would prefer to believe this antagonistic style of position isn't representative of your usual cycling, the video: watch?v=Hg8wc1CMaB0&NR=1 where you needlessly stay right/middle for a full 34 seconds (among other videos), so preventing passing, strongly indicates that's it's normal for you to position yourself poorly.
If not and these incidents only happen where you have a habit of blocking, then perhaps you should realise that you shouldn't needlessly position to block passes.
Pleas indicate what between what times I 'needlessly' stay out for and I will explain why I am there.
I would love to post a full video of my commute, but due to threats that I have received in the past, I thought it was best not to do that. Otherwise you would see that your supposition was completely false.
If I did not take a strong road position at these locations I would be at greater risk of serious incidents.
Ha, you must be joking! You've had so many near misses, all of these would not have happened if you had not adopted your blocking position. I mean, you get "threats" wow - that's saying something about you!
Seriously mate, change your ways before someone less forgiving does it for you!
8:32:32 to 55 (oops, my bad, 24 seconds). Granted you passed another cyclist but you stayed out afterwards.
So you are suggesting that my line on the roundabout is incorrect! Which lane would you take for a right turn at a roundabout? The best place for a cyclist on a roundabout to be is in the centre of the appropriate lane. It increases the cyclists visibility and reduces the risk of cars pulling out on you.
Oh and the 'cyclist' you see is actually a gentleman sweeping the road. You perceptions skills aren't so great for such a brilliant cyclist! LOL!
Even better, now you have no excuse at all! So tell us, why remain in the middle when there is enough room for cars to pass both sides of you.
Which side at roundabouts: you're the one complaining about being passed on the left side - you tell me! I saw how you ride over the arrow pointing right!
I didnt call myself brilliant, I actually said I was experienced (and that you're a poor cyclist). Seems like your perception skills aren't so great too unless you're being selective?
You are correct. I have no excuses. Only reasons which have been well documented elsewhere. I certainly do ride over the advisory arrow, and that is wrong, how?
I never said that you had called yourself brilliant (poor perception again!), your posts imply that you think this. Do try and keep up!
Your only excuses were ice and visibility; both are disproved.
You're happy to ignore road signage? That sign is implying that there are multiple lanes at that stretch of roundabout (correct in this case) and that only those continuing right should be in that lane. You cannot have passed a driving or a cycling proficiency test!
I never said that you had said that I was brilliant.... Ive kept up; the problem is that you were going in the wrong direction - or are in the wrong lane anyway!
what did he say?
bustagh0st 1 month ago
you neeed a fucking car and u fucking dumbness
MRFEELTHEDUB 1 month ago
Just start keying every car that comes close enough for you to reach them. haha.
CaptainCocaine 6 months ago
I suggest you keep cycling, shrug off what you may seem as ignorance, near miss. And respect the motorist and they'lll respect you. Remember you are cycling to keep fit, if you feel angry in any way vent it out on your pedals and don't stop for anyone.. Your dam lucky you don't have to pay the price of fuel, any inconvenience won't burn a hole in your pocket.It just seems ludicrous why anyone would deliberately risk hitting you, loss of licence and injurying another fellow human being.
EinkOLED 8 months ago
@EinkOLED You keep moaning about motorists paying for fuel - you know that driving isn't obligatory right? And its not 'luck' that cyclists don't pay for fuel.
vousden 6 months ago
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EinkOLED 8 months ago
LOL your a moron and a menace, get off the roads before someone really loses patients with you
XXdriver2000XX 8 months ago
Reguardless if you gave enough room or not, you was infront, the car decided to pass did not have enough space, he was more mad that he hit you and you had alittle go, tbh i drive and cycle, if i see a cyclist, i leave more than enough room to pass (if he gives me room ill thank him/her) and on my bike if there is a lane for us ill take it. This happened to be with a white van man, he was not happy and tryed the white van man act. lol
crimsure 8 months ago
car was too close.
renorti 9 months ago
Many years ago, I had a friend who dicovered herbal medicine. Almost weekly, he would go down to the pub and regail us with yet another story of how he had "cured" an illness with herbalism.
It became tiresome, yet he was a friend, so we indulged him.
After many, many months of this, I asked him "How is it you are always getting sick?"
Lately I've begun wondering, why is it that proponents of the "primary" cycling position experiencing so many near accidents?
psteverific 1 year ago
How many have you reported? Do you know if they get punished?
hassoun6 1 year ago
@hassoun6 I always imagine this guy calling his local Police station...."Hello it's me again. Another car overtook me again today". Police officer (rolling eyes) "That's terrible Sir, I'll get my best men on it right now". ;-)
pjdarcy 1 year ago
man always taxis, what cam are you using as im thinking of getting a cam after loads of close calls. Best one i had was few weeks back car peeps at me they are over taking on a blind bend lorry pulls out on them they have to stop i catch up did not make any fuss they whent into reverse and tried running me over nice people on the road ay
jamesA60222 1 year ago
Close pass then stopping and blaming the driver. Way to save time.
bored2kGER 1 year ago
In UK there is no cycling culture at all iv'e got to say.
Juutubettaja94 1 year ago
I believe in this instance, you should have been riding much further to the left between 0:40 and 0:49. There is a difference between lane guarding for safety, and riding in the middle of the road for no apparent reason. The road is wide enough there for even a truck to pass safely. The end of the story is, vehicles ALWAYS try to overtake. Unless it's neccesary (ie. Car doors opening), be considerate for those wishing to pass.
HantsCyclePatrol 1 year ago
The problem is bikes are too slow and unpredictable for todays fast moving,busy roads. Like an old woman driving 30 in a 60 zone is more of a problem than the guy going 70 overtaking people.
RTORC78 1 year ago
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It's pretty simple. Get the fuck out of the way. got a brain?
chronicpuffin 2 years ago
I have. In fact, as I work in MRI I have plenty of evidence (research scans). Also having done some functional MRI I can also confirm that, not only do I have a brain, it functions as well.
How about you? Do you have any proof?
magnatom 2 years ago 13
@magnatom you should park your bike next to the MRI scanner(film it) and take the bus home.
sennetor 9 months ago
@sennetor Google 'Place Where Cycling is Not Advised - Part 1' :-)
magnatom 9 months ago
@magnatom Nice one! Speaking of magnets - you should get some bumper stickers/magnets printed and everytime you catch up to an offending car just slap it on the back and ride off. "You Tube! - Magnatom"
sennetor 9 months ago
what an idiot!
Bbaotian 2 years ago
how about not riding in the middle of the road, when i cycle i hug the curb because i know what its like from a drivers perspective coming up behind a bicycle. you stretched your arm out fully touching the taxi window, meaning you had a good 2 ft at least clearence.
motionpirates 2 years ago
Sigh!
Google 'Magnatom FAQ'
magnatom 2 years ago
you need to learn a respect for the road, rather than using the roads safely you seem to put all your attention into antagonising other road users.
motionpirates 2 years ago
Sigh! Google 'Magnatom FAQ'
magnatom 2 years ago
Antagonising other road users, get a grip. The driver should not have attempted to overtake him, its that simple. The driver was causing the danger.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
Cyclists require a metre, and that is a minumum of 3 foot, for safety.
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
' you were in the middle of the road', yet again, drivers are ignorant of the laws of the road. they assume we shouldn't be there when in fact it's perfectly within our rights, and in fact safer to do so sometimes.
thetttttttttttt 2 years ago 2
Sigh!
Google 'Magnatom FAQ'
magnatom 2 years ago
@magnatom 'thettttttttttt' comment is correct. I think you misread it.
CCFCstormin 11 months ago
@thetttttttttttt We all have rights we don't use and laws that we ignore. There is being courteous. It isn't in the highway code to thank a driver with a flash / hazard light blip but we all do it. You didn't NEED to be in the middle and while you have the right you were being annoying. I have the right with 2 mates to drive our cars on the motorway side by side doing 50, doesn't mean we should post a video of us pissing people off, then complain about them.
m1leswilliams 1 year ago
@m1leswilliams he wasn't pissing them off....he was being safe. I'm a medic and this is the kind of riding we should see more of.
pyro999maniac 11 months ago 2
@m1leswilliams what are you saying? your comment is very unclear.
thetttttttttttt 11 months ago
your riding in the middle of the road you tool
hotwagon 2 years ago
No I'm not you spanner!
(Google 'Magnatom FAQ')
magnatom 2 years ago
I would suggest you get less shouty. If you'd been calmer when talking to him after you stopped, there's a chance - a slight one - that a good explanation of what he did wrong would change his driving.
Anger just begets more anger really. Though trust me, I know road anger.
Funny how he's so impatient that he'll do a stupid overtake, but then stop to argue with you! What does he even say to you?
EkimCF 2 years ago
very true. people are idiots. this man is passing cars in some of his videos, and people are still so stupid that they must endanger him and the other drivers for absolutely no reason
jlojohnlondon 2 years ago 2
It's a taxi driver, what do you expect, a good standard of driving?
couldntcareanyway 2 years ago 2
Where I live if you ride in teh middle of the road with your bike you're breaking the law. But over there I guess there are fewer laws restricting cyclists?? 0_0
Either way, the guy in the taxi simply misjudged a takeover.
Wasabi4Concrete 2 years ago 3
@Wasabi4Concrete There's misjudging, then there's fucking ramming into the side of the cyclist.
Also from the taxi driver honking the horn when he passed and then stopping to say "you're in the middle of the road" I think shows the latter.
CCFCstormin 11 months ago
pushy riding cunt move the fuck over
you shit me to tears in aus we hit cunts like you just like kangaroo's
nvmyutube 2 years ago
Yawn.
magnatom 2 years ago
YES, because Australia, has THE WORST DRIVERS IN THE WORLD, and you are one of them. You belong in Jail!!!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
Hope you reported him mate, I cant understand how waiting behind you for 10 more seconds and he would have had the room to pass wasnt good enough for him.
milewide 2 years ago
My closest pass:
Riding past a line of parked cars about 200 yards from my house I got "that feeling" of impending doom and pulled in suddenly. As I did so a car overtook me.
My left wrist, elbow and bar-end were in contact with a parked car.
My right elbow and bar end were clipped by the overtaking car.
My bars were in physical contact with two cars, one moving and one parked, at the same time.
To this day I can't figure out how I stayed upright.
Funny how they always blame the bike too.
thirteenfingers 2 years ago 3
was he a foreign taxi driver if so Hes polish and doesnt undersatnd the uk rules
djmadboy2 2 years ago
3 words
FUKIN TAXI DRIVER
S8SHeFFieLDBaPBaPBaP 2 years ago
I have had closer passes than that. One day a stupid clueless driver left me 3 inches of room! But yeah that was stupid and im sure it was not legal my any means. He deserves a citation for endangering you and putting you at risk for being hit.
CycleMan2200 2 years ago
Just a typical taxi wanker.
888asd00 2 years ago
Middle of the road as usual I see Dr. Brennan. When are you going to learn?
ayrshoredotcom 2 years ago
No, if you ride in the gutter, they pass closer, that is a fact!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
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Well done, video yourself commiting a criminal act. I suggest you calm down, and learn how to ride you retard!
hadrian52 2 years ago
Um, you obviously dont know the road rules, he DID NOT COMMIT A CRIMINAL ACT, IT IS LEGAL TO RIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD!!
KrunchyJD 1 year ago
i come across this every day in ireland, usually on blind corners on narrow roads with continuous white lines in the middle.
a good proportion of motorists don't consider cyclists as traffic worth staying behind until it's safe to pass.
some even blow their horns to get cyclists to move in, it's ridiculous. embracepragmatism comes across as one of these people
pureseptic 2 years ago
Stupid taxi drivers - think they own the road
altractors 2 years ago
1. Nothing wrong with the cyclists lane position that I can see.
2. I see bonehead cyclists and pedestrians every day doing things that irritate me. I still try to avoid killing them. What that motorist did was uncalled for in any situation.
joeybike2 2 years ago 2
I've just watched the video again and Magnatom has pretty much arrived at the obstruction when the taxi overtook him. Even if he'd hugged the curb coming off the island he'd have to change his road position by that point anyway (which is more dangerous for him). It's safer to control the situation as he did. Afterall, the taxi would have reached his destination at exactly the same time, so it was a pointless overtake.
Guys, safety is the only issue to consider here, pls try and be rational.
jonredhornet 3 years ago
Magnatom was riding in the middle of a 6.2m wide lane, thats wide enough for two cars - what on earth is rational about that?!?
Safety is not the only consideration, it is merely the foremost. If safety was the only consideration, he shouldn't have been cycling at all on that morning!
This is not an issue of time, if it was the driver would not have stopped to exchange choice words; it is about consideration.
How can anyone cycle anywhere without changing road position?
embracepragmatism 2 years ago
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You were riding almost in the middle of the road Magnafruitcake, and you crossed over the chevron markings on the roundabout, which is an offence under the road traffic act. You only have yourself to blame you ignorant retarded idiot. Learn to ride FFS!!
No wonder half of Scotland is baying for your blood!
craigybus1 3 years ago
LOL! From blood bus perhaps?
Your right about half of Scotland though. I have a large crowd outside my house now holding forks and clubs. What am I to do!?
magnatom 3 years ago
Astonishingly stupid driving. The driver impatiently bullies his way past then stops in the middle of the road to start an argument. If I was the cyclist I'm not sure I would have kept my temper, he basically nearly kills you...for what? He gains nothing and if he's in such a hurry why stop to slag you off? What a staggeringly bad piece of driving, that this numbskull idiot sociopath cabbie is still using the roads is chilling...
spindrift1 3 years ago
Rearranging some of those words: Magnatom cycled "in the middle of the road to start an argument." Dont forget, this is a REALLY wide road, it is not a pinch point as claimed (unless you think a 6.2m wide entrance is one?)
Your question is answered: he obviously wasnt in a hurry if he stopped to slag off magnatom (that's understandable).
I note the conclusion to the inquiry - I may not fully agree with it, but it is obvious to anyone with the facts that the driver was needlessly provoked.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
How can someone minding their own business provoke anyone? Nobody as vulnerable as a cyclist wants to provoke an argument. Its just a fact of life that you have to cycle a certain way to reduce the danger posed to you by other road users.
If that upsets the taxi driver that's his problem, he still has to drive in accordance with the highway code and if he'd done that in this case everyone would have been on their way with a smile on their face, instead the taxi driver chose to drive dangerously
zenfarion 3 years ago
Surely the taxi would rather stay behind? Wouldn't the meter run up more?
thomase1 3 years ago 10
I might be stating the bleeding obvious, but you film this video on 6 Jan and a new member joins on 9 Jan and gives you continual hassle. Could the two events be linked.
BTW I admire your perseverance , I would have told them where to go and blocked them after the 2nd or 3rd comment.
pminopoli 3 years ago
Wanting to block comments without good reason is a sure sign of sign of a bigot. Kudos to Magnatom for allowing all my comments (even if he doesnt respond to them).
You're reading something into nothing. I have no link with the driver (or anyone else in magnatoms videos). Anyone implying such a link would be foolish. Is it really any surprise that someone comments soon after a video is published?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
GOTCHA!
I can prove youre a DUMBARss ;c)
Your first pinch point (rounabout exit) is another lie. It is 6.25 meters wide (+/- 5%).
A car with a width in excess of 2m is a rarity. Assuming you were being considerate:
A wide car could have given itself 1m clearance on the right (much more than reasonable), so leaving you 3.25 meters. Your handlebars would by a max of 70cm wide, so leaving you a real clearance, on both sides, of 1.275m (from your handle bars). Is that not enough?!?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Im obsessive about those who are obsessive about antagonising other road users. Perhaps now you have a taste for what you're giving, except I'm being sincere and have justified my arguments beyond refute (thus far)!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Oh, so now all comments are pending approval all of a sudden? Seems to me like you know youve been exposed for a lazy, antagonistic cyclist, as well as a deceitful poster. Lets see if you continue to allow me to have and air my opinion.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
As is the case with all of my videos, which is prudent considering some of the comments I receive. Some very obsessive and weird youtube posters out there. Especially the ones who set up an account just to hassle another youtube member..... ;-)
magnatom 3 years ago
Blimey you still causing agro on the streets of Glasgow, Magnatom?! Sometimes one wonders if this has more to do with getting your 15 minutes of fame that Andy Warhol promised us, rather than promoting road safety!!!
nethalus 3 years ago
Hey nethalus! Aye, still getiing into fights every day! ;-)
Actually the 3 months leading up to Christmas were great. No problems at all. Then this happens. So I called my promoter Frank Warren, and he told me to post my video here as it would make me rich and famous. So here I am, waiting for the fame and glory. Let the good times roll!
LOL!
magnatom 3 years ago
You set out with the purpose of causing a scene. Terrible cycling. I'm appalled that you would use Franklin's cyclecraft to even justify this tactic. Admit it, you were wrong.
ExcellenceHouse 3 years ago
Of course I did. You are right. LOL! I cycle along this road in a similar way 5 days a week, 46 weeks a year with little or no problem. Then one day an idiot passes through a gap that just isn't there. Yes it was my fault entirely and I had adjusted my position just to pass within centimetres of his window and wing mirror. Please accept my apologies!
:rolleyes:
magnatom 3 years ago
"gap that isn't there" - yet the driver found one without having to cross the divider marking, even with you band in the middle. Of course the gap could have been more than enough if you hadn't hogged the centre of the lane.
You have no reason to remain in the middle, short of wanting to take the shortest possible line (you were lazy at the expense of convenience of others), or to be antagonistic so you can get fame by recording the inevitable response. Personally, I think its a bit of both.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yes while placing me in significant danger. That in my book is not a gap. Oh and he did cross the white line, that is why the car on the other side hit his horn.
What you think doesn't really matter here anyway. What will matter in this situation is what the licencing board make of it. Why don't we just wait and see what they say when they make their judgement?
magnatom 3 years ago
The passing car did not cross the divider, I can clearly see it at 1:26.
If you were considerate and didn't remain in the middle, that gap would have been a lot bigger; can you really disagree with that?!?
You don't *know* who honked, you merely *think* it was the jeep. Theres no need for the jeep driver to honk? It's much more likely the passing driver honked at you, well he did stop to give you words too!
So my opinion doesn't matter when your argument disappears in a puff of logic?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
...and how can you tell that the cars far tyre is not over the white line?
I know for a fact that the passing car did not honk. I was there remember, who else would honk? The honk occurs just at the time you expect an oncoming car to hit it's horn, doesn't it!
had the driver been patient and waited behind there would have been no reason to even consider if there was a gap or not, would there?
magnatom 3 years ago
The car is further away from the jeep than the jeep to the line.
'Who else would honk?' Didn't I just answer that? You 'know for a fact' even though your first response to this was 'I think it was the jeep that hit the horn', your conjectures are not facts! The honk occurs when the blue car is next to you, which is the most effective time to communicate displeasure.
Had you been considerate (not antagonistic) there would have been no reason for the small gap or the close pass, would there?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I know for a fact that the beep did not come from the car next to me, as I was next to the car at the time! I cannot be sure who else the beep came from, but the situation strongly supports my hypothesis that it was the jeep. Circumstantial, but very likely.
Had the driver been patient (as in my latest video) then there would have been no gap to consider in the first place.
magnatom 3 years ago
You 'know for a fact', even though you 'cannot be sure' and it is 'Circumstantial' ?!? Please!
The situation points to the passing car tooting you to reinforce the conveyance of his displeasure to you; there goes your hypothesis!
Your last comment is also redundant, there was a gap to consider; the bad pass driver proved that.
Had you been considerate, there would have been a wide gap with overhead for bailout; hence there's no reason for the small gap or the close pass, yes?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
And this day you got the reaction you so crave.
ExcellenceHouse 3 years ago
One might say the same about your post here, might they not?
What was the reaction he craved other than safety? Stop trolling and do something constructive with your life.
secretcyclist 3 years ago
Answering for ExcellenceHouse:
Magnatom craved an adverse reaction so he could video it, potentially giving himself further media coverage, so furthering his ego (or hatred for drivers). This is an obvious reason.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
if you claim that if your palm on his window means he is only centimetres away from you,you must have a very small arm!it looks to me like the car is atleast a yard away from your handlebar.
W8RRDY 3 years ago
....and you can see my handle bar where exactly?
magnatom 3 years ago
hi.. i used to cycle in london daily for 2 years, cars maintain 30 a cyclist cannot exceed 20 or 25 and this causes cars to catch up and overtake cyclists all the time! which is very dangerous specially if there are no cyclist lane! i am a car driver as well! I do NOT recommend people cycling unless there are cycling lanes! my advice for cyclist is to get a motorbike or a moped! its much safer since they can maintain the speed limit! also they have mirrors, lights, horns and engine sound!
hmfy 3 years ago
I'd be interested to know what the licensing board decide - an open and shut case of dangerous driving if you ask me.
Well done for not raking his paint with your cleats when he stopped!
If you really can't get anywhere, one option might be to try claiming a new glove from his insurance - that'll give him a proper headache :-)
EdinburghFixed 3 years ago
great video :)
i gotta admint some drivers dont give a toss( like him) cuz they got a car they think they own the road lol :)
glad to see ur allright =]
keep it up
andy :D
andym551 3 years ago
Do you understand irony? In this case magnatom was the one who thought he owned the road; the motorist responded by making a statement be it a bad one (as have a few others).
"Keep it up"? Do you want to see him injured?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I'm unclear as to why you think magnatom was acting as if he "owned the road".
Please explain.
markf1979 3 years ago
"This is my bit of tarmac. I'm not going to more over to let other road users pass me no matter how reasonable the desire. Moving left will cost me precious milli-seconds. Im certainly not going to brake to let others through. Im going to take the shortest route so saving a few cm of travelling. Nuts to everyone else; I dont care about them or how needlessly frustrated I make them feel"
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
No, I am saying, 'at the moment, I would feel in danger if you overtook me, due to the particular road layout and conditions. Could you wait for 15-20 seconds until it is clear to pass please?'
magnatom 3 years ago
Ha, and you had the nerve to belittle me in a similar manner - here it is back at you:
'If that is your definition of danger you must have a hard time on the roads' - my what a coincidence, you suffer exactly that...
Someone who didn't own the road would have thought If the danger is actually there, should I wait 1 second to let others pass me? or Should I keep left so I cam make it clear for others to pass me? or If its so icy, should I take a bus instead?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yes I would consider a pass within centimetres of my handlebars to constitute a dangerous pass. I think the majority would agree with me here. So what is your point?
Driving/cycling using the road in any way requires taking risks. Driving/cycling well is all about mitigating the risks as best you can. That's what I try and do. Isn't that what everyone should be doing, i.e. keeping within the speed limits, not drink driving, giving other road users consideration etc.
magnatom 3 years ago
My point was: you ride as if you own the road; I never said/implied/hinted those passes weren't dangerous.
Look at the dangerous responses you get from these drivers, do you really think all these are indicative of your risk being reduced 'as best you can'?!?
How is needlessly blocking others giving consideration, or instead inciting road rage?
Looks like you need to check your definition of 'mitigating risks'!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yes, risk is reduced. By taking a more dominant postion I give myself space on my left to bail out to, which I actually used in this instance (see how by the time we reach the pinch point I am close to the kerb.
You see, you say needlessly, I say it is required. There we differ. So I suggest that IMO and lots of other cyclists opinions (and two that have actually been there!) that I incited nothing. If you think I am inciting road rage, report me to the police. Please do.
magnatom 3 years ago
Yes you gave yourself room (but that wasn't your intention), but you made it necessary because you were riding in your antagonistic style by needlessly blocking traffic, so increasing the possibility of a daft pass a self-fulfilling prophesy! You were 9 seconds from the pinch point when you entered the lane in the middle.
You say we differ, true, but you cannot substantiate your opinion (at least without lying and misrepresenting) after I have given reasoning why your actions were wrong.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yes it was my intention. You have no way of proving otherwise, as to what my intention at that time was, so any suggestions by yourself are pure supposition.
I am still waiting to hear where I have lied (oh and the gap as I have now explained elsewhere from pinch point to pinch point is actually 6 seconds)
magnatom 3 years ago
It cannot have been your intention. You still would have had plenty of room to bail out if you gave the car the safe gap needed to pass; the 'intention' is logically redundant, no supposition needed. Your first pinch point clearly isn't a pinch point, that's actually quite wide; I had already stated that within the previous round of comments.
Ive explained how you have lied repeated times (the ice was not the reason, you do it anyway); your lack of acknowledgement doesnt disprove it!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yes, keep on reducing your risk by encouraging drivers to undertake you, pass you too close to you - and even braking in front of you; your efforts are bearing fruit!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I really would love an explanation of how I 'encourage' drivers to undertake or pass to close to me. Are you suggesting that drivers can't think for themselves....mmm, on occasion you may be right!
magnatom 3 years ago
By riding needlessly on the right side when interacting with others rightly wishing to pass - of course! Your riding is the equivalent of a lane 3 numpty doing 40mph on an otherwise open and free-flowing NSL motorway - do these people not encourage undertaking?
It is not that these others dont think for themselves, it is that youre attempting to do the thinking for them, without giving them reasonable consideration.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
...and you talk of strawman arguments. Hmm, comparing this situation with a outside lane driver on a motorway....!
Absolutely. I am trying to control the traffic around me, by road position, in a situation where I as a cyclist feel vulnerable. Is it for you to determine where I feel vulnerable or for me? There was plenty of opportunity to overtake 15-20 seconds later. Who is being inconsiderate here? Who is risking another road users life?
magnatom 3 years ago
Prove I'm wrong otherwise accept thats another unsubstantiated claim from you.
Controlling traffic can be fine in some situations. The control you forced upon others in this and other vids is absolutely needless. If you werent so inconsiderate you wouldn't have been placed at such risk. Do you not understand how the other road users were making a statement to you (as opposed to merely wanting to pass at any cost)? The car and van werent in such a hurry because they both braked after passing!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
LOL! What that cycling on a single lane road is different from driving on a motorway! I don't think I need to prove anything!
You think the other drivers were making a statement! Do you think this is a reasonable thing to do to another road user? Is this good driving?
magnatom 3 years ago
It seems you don't want to think at all. It's perfectly possible to allow passing on that section of tarmac, hence the analogy stands. Remember, one of your other videos was about ..... wait for it .... a driver passing you on the left!!!!!
I've always said the driving standards of those who passed you too close were poor (another strawman from you). Regardless, they were making a clear statement regarding your antagonistic riding style, in that respect (only), their sentiments were correct.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Of course it is perfectly possible to allow passing. I could pull over and stop. That would of course hold me up, wouldn't it. So are you suggesting that a car, just because it is a car, has more right to a smooth and safe journey? Or do we all have equal rights. What about, and I know this is crazy, we respect the vehicle (whatever it may be) in front of us, and wait patiently until it is safe to pass. It's a mad idea, but it might just work. (and amazingly it did this morning!)
magnatom 3 years ago
Two more strawmans. 1) Yes you can stop, also you don't need to stop: you can slow a bit (most motorway drivers do just that for each other); you can also even move to the left instead of remaining in the middle letting others pass safely without slowing. Do you know what slow moving vehicles are compelled to do on single-track roads when queues form behind them?
2) slow up (wasn't needed) not because it's a car but because 1 second from you can save them 15-20 seconds (your earlier estimate).
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Have a look at my new video. No problem there and I am travelling at the same speed. Who acted differently here? Therefore, who can we conclude caused the incident...? No strawmen here! (you have a thing about strawmen!)
magnatom 3 years ago
This doesn't detract from your previous erroneous strawmans, my prior points remain standing!
Your new video shows supports the view that drivers are individuals and very few will respond in a menacingly when needlessly impeded by selfish antagonistic riders. Youre still (part of) the cause of your own problem: if you didnt block then those drivers couldnt (and neednt) have risked your life. Therefore, who can we conclude caused those incidents...? See how your logic falls over?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
As for what a slow moving vehicle (about 18mph here)I assume you refer to the HC
169:
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.
So where is the queue of traffic? And would 15 or so seconds normally be considered a long delay? I don't think so. I get held up much longer than this by cars when I ride my bike. They don't move out of the way...
magnatom 3 years ago
15 seconds is a longer delay than you wouldve suffered: none at all (without any additional risk).
Your question is answered & my point is proven: we all have equal rights; you neednt pull in just because it's a car and you're a cyclist. There probably wasnt a long queue behind you that time, that doesnt mean thats always the case.
When driving, I always move out of the way of cyclists where safely possible.
When I cycle, I notice drivers dont deliberately and needlessly block cyclists.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
A driver passing on my left, although daft is nowhere near as dangerous as a car pulling in front of you on a roundabout or a car cutting across you from the inside lane on a roundabout. So you are saying that making a statement by passing close is a good sentiment?
magnatom 3 years ago
Another silly strawman argument, is your only recourse to misrepresent my statements and use these fallacious statements as the basis for you to refute? To spell this out for you: they were making a statement regarding your antagonistic riding style. *How* they expressed themselves was wrong, but the *why* was correct, you were antagonistic them. Personally, I would have just beeped at you.
A car will undertake a bicycle much more often when its on the right than pull out when on the left.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
More strawmen!
So you think it is reasonable to get infuriated (I hope he was, to use his vehicle in this way. If not, I wouldn't want to be around when he was infuriated) by a vehicle ahead of you that holds you up for 15 seconds. Hmm. That is what leads to road rage. There is no place for impatience in safe driving, would you not agree?
magnatom 3 years ago
Yeah, youre good at misrepresenting statements. Heres another: I didn't say it was reasonable to get infuriated. It is reasonable to feel frustrated when needlessly held up. (we being individuals means that some responses will be extreme (are you familiar with distributions and tails thereof?)).
Impatience: of course not, but it cannot always be avoided when someone encourages it.
There's no place for antagonistically inconsiderate positioning in safe riding, would you not agree?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
So you would use your horn out of a sign of impatience? Incorrect use of the horn. Look it up! :-)
magnatom 3 years ago
No, Id use my horn to indicate that you're incorrectly using the lanes; my improper tooting wouldn't be encouraged if your positioning wasn't improper. Correct use of lanes; look it up! Even if you weren't blocking me and I saw you doing that to someone else, I would still toot you, for that same reason .... ooh, this leads us to somewhere interesting....
Then again, the driver could have been warning you that you're generally (as opposed to locally) at risk of being involved in an accident.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Visibility on roundabout: you're better seen if you keep left (due to the trees on the island blocking the view of vehicles approaching from behind) you were way over to the right so reducing visibility (from and of you); you cant use visibility as an excuse here.
The day you happen across a joyrider...
:c(
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Absolute rubbish! If you are at the left edge of a roundabout you are out of the normal line of view of vehicles coming on to the roudabout. You are at considerably more danger from cars entering the roundabout than you are from cars behind. I can assure you that cars behind me have no problem seeing me!
magnatom 3 years ago
Out of view even though that's where drivers are looking to see if it's clear? Please! Your assurances mean nothing. Your prior reasoning has been proven to be erroneous and deceitful (and you like to windup others), so forgive me when I refuse to take what you say at face value.
The day you happen across a joyrider...
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
:-) Oh, we are touchy! I make one joke about adding a negative on one of your posts and so I am always on the wind up. You must lead a very sheltered life!
On entering a roundabout, where would yo be looking for traffic, in the centre of the lane, where cars are found, or at the edge? Please answer this.
We are all at the mercy of joyriders. The only thing that we can do to mitigate this is prevention or punishment. That, is a discussion for another day!
magnatom 3 years ago
More trolling now with ad hominem (a sure sign of disingenuous intentions).
When entering a roundabout I look for traffic regardless of where they are within it especially when people insist on using such poor lane discipline. You've just pooped on your own example: you went to the (right) edge where you implied others won't see you - oops! You only moved leftwards when you were at your exit as if you were taking the shortest possible line.
You're more at the mercy of joyriders than most...
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Eh? I don't cycle on any right edge. i am slap bang in the centre of the lane! Obviously you have much better observational skills than the average driver then. I have seen many example of cyclists being missed when cycling close to the edge. All cycle training schemes will tell you to take the lane on a roundabout, and not the edge. Don't just trust me, go and find out for yourself!
magnatom 3 years ago
So you were 'not on any right edge'? , so how would you describe your position at ~30 seconds into this video? Is that middle?!? Remember, each post in this sub-thread is about what happened at the *roundabout*, not after the exit. Please do keep up.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Yup. Centre of the lane. And yes I do go over the hatching just before. Go and look at the cyclechat thread I go into detail why experience on this roundabout suggests that this is the best line to take on this roundabout. I don't have time to reiterate just for you.
I'll admit I find it difficult to keep up. I have a life off the net and have other things to do. Amazing I know!
magnatom 3 years ago
LOL! sooooo, you were in the centre of the lane at 30 seconds into your video... I think we can let the reader judge us both on that one.
And Im not reading another 50 pages of more of your bullcrap!
The way you ride, you won't have your life for long. I refer you to the very recent case of Christopher Thomas Thompson. But hey, as long as you think you're right there's no need to be safe! The day you happen across a joyrider...
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Reader! LOL! You think anyone but you and I are following this! LOL!
Actually the stats are very much in my favour. On average cyclists (including those who have no thought for safety) on average live 2 years longer.
CTT is an idiot and one that no amount of good road positioning can avoid. I suggest though I am more likely to be killed walking across the road than cycling, by a driver like this...
magnatom 3 years ago
You didn't acknowledge 'LOL! sooooo, you were in the centre of the lane at 30 seconds into your video... '.
My point which I've repeatedly alluded to is that your riding style is extreme, far from average, unless you really want to say the average cyclist is as highly antagonistic and inconsiderate as you?
CCT is an idiot whose threatening behaviour was based entirely on the positioning (2 abreast) of the unfortunate cyclists.
Im considering repeating all these in another forum.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
test post
embracepregmatism2 3 years ago
In my vast cycling experience (I'm a london cyclist, in fact I rarely use my car) the vast majority of my rides/walks/drives are enjoyable and uneventful. The majority of drivers and cyclists are very courteous. In all walks of life I agree that there are bad apples, some of those like to encourage road rage.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
....and I encourage road rage by....being on my bike perhaps?
magnatom 3 years ago
No, by deliberately and repeatedly being an antagonistic rider by needlessly blocking other road users. Somehow I don't seem to suffer these events when I ride; even your friends on cyclechat have been pointing that out to you!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
3 users have been pointing it out on cyclechat. One is a self confessed troll. One has already been warned a number of times on the forum for his behaviour (which is a lightly moderated forum), and the other thought I hit the car when it had stopped, not when it passed me!
You are also being selective. What was the verdict of the 2 independent cyclists who went to this bit of road to investigate it for themselves? And how many cyclists on that thread have agreed that I did nothing wrong?
magnatom 3 years ago
Youve also admitted to trolling (your winding me up) so what?
It may well be that only a few in the thread were against your riding style. I only caught a few pages at the end of the thread (forgive me for not wanting to wade through all of that).
Remember, cyclists in general dont suffer incidents for 3% of their commutes (equates to one every 3 weeks - jeez); thats a big wake up call (before the inevitable distressing call to the rest of your family).
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
If that is your definition of trolling then you must have a hard time on the internet!
So you admit that your comments were based on a biased selection of comments?
I am sure most cyclists do have incident at about this rate. I don't post only dangerous incidents, I post incidents that show poor driving, cycling etc. So they don't all put me in direct danger (i.e. my road position often compensates for this). In 3.5 years road cycling, I have probably felt in real danger 2 or 3 times.
magnatom 3 years ago
Lying and deliberately winding people up isn't trolling? Hard? Your logic is too easy!
My selection was based on what was at the end, irrespective of was there at that time. My only bias was not wanting to read the whole 40-page thread. Limiting myself to the last few pages of a large thread is not confirmation bias - do you even know a 'sample' is?
Yes you "are sure", whos applying bias? There's a strong correlation between posted instances of poor driving and your bad lane discipline.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Please point to any lies I have made? If you can't I will accept your retraction.
LOL! As for understanding what a sample is! I am a trained and working physicist! I can assure you that I understand sample and bias! Mmm, let me think, I run a study, and select the last few data sets to include for publication. This data just so happens to support my view, the rest of the data doesn't, is that biased? LOL!!
I have already explained the correlation between lane position and bad driving.
magnatom 3 years ago
To repeat: you said ice was the reason for your position but you "cycle along this road in a similar way 5 days a week, 46 weeks a year" - is there ice there all year!
A trained and working engineer (inc. physics) and *statistician* trumps mere physics in this case. Theres no reason to suspect the sample data (end of thread) isn't representative of the whole population.
That thread itself is subject to bias - its in a cycling forum!
Your bad lane position results with bad driving
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I point out the conditions on this occasion. On THIS occasion it is one MORE reason not to cycle in that area. I have published my reasons for not being there elsewhere, so I won't rehash.
What are you on about trumping! Do you actually know my publication record etc?!?! Anyway that does matter. As for small sections of a thread being a representative sample, LOL! Not only are your stats bad, but your understanding of how discussions ebb and flow in a forum thread are pretty poor as well!
magnatom 3 years ago
No, the ice was clearly shown as being the sole reason, not one of others (there aren't others anyway). Please repeat your other 'reasons' for being in the middle of the lane. The ice reason is obviously redundant; you do it anyway hence it's not the reason!
It wasn't me who brought up qualifications. Do you know about my patent record? Forum threads tend not to ebb so much over that many pages! I also said the other contributors will tend to be biased by being supportive to one of their group.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
So you missed the bit about 'leaving a roundabout and approaching a pinch point then (oh and as I leave the roundabout that is a pinch point as well due to the traffic island on my right)
Patent record! LOL! Beleive it or not I have one of those as well! (Approaching national phases)Search under my real name and you will find it. I also know that patents have nothing to do with science and everything to do with protecting commercialisation opportunities!
magnatom 3 years ago
That pinch point is a full 9 seconds after entering the road at your speed; could you really not have pulled left that time?
What pinch point leaving the roundabout? Thats as wide as the lane afterwards!
I have 5 patents, all inventive in the hard sciences; I have another pending, related to .... oh wouldnt you know it .... stats! (a novel probability-optimised searching protocol utilising packet collisions actually).
Anyway, none of that detracts from the fact you lied.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Up to 43 seconds is a pinch point due to the traffic island. So in fact that leaves me 6 seconds until the second pinch point.
Ah wireless communications. Very different to the stats of forum discussions, wouldn't you agree?
I'm still waiting for you to point out where I lied. Please point it out! Be specific please.
magnatom 3 years ago
The first was not a pinch point, leaving you 9 seconds.
I was trained in stats before I did my protocol work, meaning my training was a bit more broad than your implying; still it's more stats knowledge than you've got.
To repeat myself yet again (jeez): you clearly communicated that the ice was the sole reason for your positioning (not one of others, there aren't other reasons anyway). You've admitted to doing that anyway even without ice; simple logic dictates your ice reason is false!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Oooh, another negative without explanation. Keep it up folks, all you're doing is showing yourselves up as the immature, arrogant bigots you truly are!
Another thing: magnatom obviously does this everywhere, everyday. Yet hes posted only a few videos of close passes; that suggests that 'bad' motorists are few and far between (they may have been blocked previously and knew what to expect, so they snapped) and that everyone else is immensely considerate, even when following this chump!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I have said on many occasions that the vast majority of my rides are enjoyable and uneventful. The majority of drivers are very courteous. In all walks of life there are bad apples.
magnatom 3 years ago
To the person who gave the negative: is that really the only response you can give? How is any of what I said not worthy of acceptance? Your silence will be deafening!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
magnatom YOU ARE A LIAR!
You said you were in the middle of the road due to potential ice, "It was -3C there was ice about, especially on unused road, so I wasn't going to go where there was likely to be black ice."
But you also cycle in the middle when it is bone dry without ice:
watch?v=Hg8wc1CMaB0&NR=1
(same stretch of road, same part of said road, all the way along).
There are at least 2 more videos where you needlessly cycle well into the lane and block.
You are a poor cyclist.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
I think you need to look up the definition of liar. LOL!
In the video you are linking to I would agree with you, that possibly I could have moved over earlier, with hindsight, however, what you have to remember is that whilst cycling I make split second decisions and in that video, at the start I was busy trying to work out what the van was up to, and by the time I thought about moving over it was too late (remember I am traveling at about 20mph in this video)
magnatom 3 years ago
"possibly I could have moved over earlier" REALLY? You should have kept left from the roundabout. What the hell else did you think the van could have been trying to do!?! Was he going to turn off?
Regardless of your speed, you had plenty of time to let the van (& car) through, at least before the road narrowed - there were quite a few split seconds for you to think about it!
The fact that you do the same when the road is dry indicates your 'slippery' reasoning is a little redundant - yes?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Embracepragmatism, perhaps you need to go back to driver training to understand the fundementals of roundabout protocol?
secretcyclist 3 years ago
Anyone who isnt trolling will easily be able to explain why they made such a comment.
So being in the right lane of such a multi-exit roundabout when youre upon your exit is the proper protocol? Magnatom even cycled over the arrow showing he was in the wrong lane. What do you say to that?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
What you also have to remember is that my videos are not representative of my cycling, i.e. they all tend to happen at hotspots (which I know well). At these hotspots I tend to take a more assertive line to discourage poor overtakes. On the rest of my commute I tend to keep in a more secondary position.
I have cycled this particular stretch for about 2 years now, and in this direction I have had two incidents (cycle 5 days a week).
Overall I have incidents on approx 3% of my commutes.
magnatom 3 years ago
As much as I would prefer to believe this antagonistic style of position isn't representative of your usual cycling, the video: watch?v=Hg8wc1CMaB0&NR=1 where you needlessly stay right/middle for a full 34 seconds (among other videos), so preventing passing, strongly indicates that's it's normal for you to position yourself poorly.
If not and these incidents only happen where you have a habit of blocking, then perhaps you should realise that you shouldn't needlessly position to block passes.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
Pleas indicate what between what times I 'needlessly' stay out for and I will explain why I am there.
I would love to post a full video of my commute, but due to threats that I have received in the past, I thought it was best not to do that. Otherwise you would see that your supposition was completely false.
If I did not take a strong road position at these locations I would be at greater risk of serious incidents.
magnatom 3 years ago
Ha, you must be joking! You've had so many near misses, all of these would not have happened if you had not adopted your blocking position. I mean, you get "threats" wow - that's saying something about you!
Seriously mate, change your ways before someone less forgiving does it for you!
8:32:32 to 55 (oops, my bad, 24 seconds). Granted you passed another cyclist but you stayed out afterwards.
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
So you are suggesting that my line on the roundabout is incorrect! Which lane would you take for a right turn at a roundabout? The best place for a cyclist on a roundabout to be is in the centre of the appropriate lane. It increases the cyclists visibility and reduces the risk of cars pulling out on you.
Oh and the 'cyclist' you see is actually a gentleman sweeping the road. You perceptions skills aren't so great for such a brilliant cyclist! LOL!
magnatom 3 years ago
Even better, now you have no excuse at all! So tell us, why remain in the middle when there is enough room for cars to pass both sides of you.
Which side at roundabouts: you're the one complaining about being passed on the left side - you tell me! I saw how you ride over the arrow pointing right!
I didnt call myself brilliant, I actually said I was experienced (and that you're a poor cyclist). Seems like your perception skills aren't so great too unless you're being selective?
embracepragmatism 3 years ago
You are correct. I have no excuses. Only reasons which have been well documented elsewhere. I certainly do ride over the advisory arrow, and that is wrong, how?
I never said that you had called yourself brilliant (poor perception again!), your posts imply that you think this. Do try and keep up!
magnatom 3 years ago
Your only excuses were ice and visibility; both are disproved.
You're happy to ignore road signage? That sign is implying that there are multiple lanes at that stretch of roundabout (correct in this case) and that only those continuing right should be in that lane. You cannot have passed a driving or a cycling proficiency test!
I never said that you had said that I was brilliant.... Ive kept up; the problem is that you were going in the wrong direction - or are in the wrong lane anyway!
embracepragmatism 3 years ago