funny how so many ignorant people post so much disgust for this movie or gay life when there was the sexual revolution for straight porn in the 70's when anything goes with that circle
LOL when i saw this trailer back in 1979 attached to The Rose,i thought it was A Gang film(which were in vogue in 1979-The Warriors,The Wanderers,Blvd Nights) I was only 10-lol
The reason that this film DOES degrade the Gay community and why it sparked protests and was universally panned by all critics as well as Civil Rights groups was not that it showed S &M clubs- they did and still do exist-. It was because they created the impression that ALL Gays did this wacky shit- and that is a lie. Men who seek out fast. non committed sex do exist in the Gay community- they also exist in a much larger group in the Straight community. Most men, Straight or Gay, settle down.
With all due respect, where exactly does it even suggest anything like that?
It is a film about male leather fetishists and two men targeting the scene. It says nothing about the heterosexual equivalents or everyday homosexuality. Why? Because both are irrelevant in the context of the film.
They didn't "create the impression" of anything. The self-proclaimed gay community [got] "the impression" and their panties in a twist. This is not their kind of gay movie. It is ours.
I have seen it several times, you keep making false statements.
1. [Where] does Cruising "create the impression" that all homosexuals are like the men in the film? How is it not obvious that the leather scene is something other and more than same sex attraction?
Your impressions are your own subjective interpretions, not objective facts. Neither the director or anyone else involved in this prodution, is responsible for your conclusions or actions based on those same conclusions.
2. Where does Cruising say anything about the heterosexual equivalents? Less than a week ago, you yourself wrote a top rated post, making the point that the film was presenting a false image of "the gay community".
I quote: "Men who seek out fast. non committed sex do exist in the Gay community- they also exist in a much larger group in the Straight community. "
Are you now saying that the film does in fact bring them up?
@SaintsWillMarch LOL!! Well, with all due respect to you "male leather fetishists" ,your "twisted panties" not withstanding, if you read about the history of this film, you will find that there were many instances of Gay/Lesbian club patrons attacked specifically by individuals who had seen it. One involved a shooting and killing of a man. If you don't believe that it says anything about "everyday homosexuality" or its "heterosexual equivalents", you need to see it again. Ur kind of movie? WTF?
3. How exactly did Cruising "created the impression" that it was a strictly homosexual lifestyle and one that is representative of all homosexuals, which was your point, if it simultaneously [did] say something about the heterosexual equivalents and the safe, ordinary, everyday homosexuals? Which it didn't.
You are systematically contradicting your own original post.
@SaintsWillMarch It creates that impression because ALL of the Gay characters are either predators or victims related to S&M or violence. It brings up the heterosexual equivalents by OMITTING them- if you show the S&M scene- show it all. If you truly want to read an in depth study of the film and why it was universally panned by all media - read Vito Russo's THE CELLULOID CLOSET. The film is about a straight cop "catching" the "Gay" and becoming a killer. There are NO "safe,ordinary, Gays in it.
Of course not. Like the heterosexuals, they are irrelevant. They would not appear on his radar and would add nothing to the film. Again; it is a matter of focus and CONTEXT.
Is there an imam or rabbi at the bed of Regan in The Exoricst?
@SaintsWillMarch LOL !! Nice try-but NO cigar. You cannot take this film out of the "context" of how Gay and Lesbian people have portrayed in film from film's conception. Do yourself a favor and view the DVD of The Celluloid Closet. The evolution of how Gays/Lesbians have been portrayed throughout cinematic history in America might surprise you. Why Friedkin's film was so despised by Gays and enlightened Straights- why Pacino would drop it from his official filmography. Fredkin's focus? LOL!
@rickw1100 I was never under the impression that it was degrading the gay community. I saw it as a aerial killer who slays men frequenting S&M bars. So therefore if the story is about a cop going undercover to catch this particular killer, logically the film makers would be depicting the S&M culture. The point of the movie is not to portray the homosexual community entirely, but that particular section of the community because it is relevant to the story.
@rickw1100 For the record, I think it is more negative towards the police than the gays. Just about every cop in the movie is depicted as a corrupt, violent and manipulative.
@ufuckfacesonofabitch Not so. Friedkin makes NO distinction between gays involved in S&M behaviors and all others. If one examines everything from the filthy,insidious dialogue from beginning to end as well as the subliminal split second shots of men engaged in sexual relations inter-cut with the brutal stabbing in the first murder, this film was an invitation to hate and kill gay men. There is not one gay character who isn't a predator or pathetic victim. Back in '80, this film cost lives.
@ufuckfacesonofabitch - No argument , you have a right to stand by your opinion. But you owe it to yourself to see the film "The Celluloid Closet"- it traces the images of gay and lesbian people historically in film, from it's inception to present times. Its' a great piece that I believe you would find interesting if you are a fan of "Cruising" or any other gay-themed film. See it if you can.
@DanielTheWalrus Scorsese directed three of the best film's of the 80's and of all time and they are Raging Bull, The King of Comedy and After Hours. He also directed great films like The Color of Money and The Last Temptation of Christ, that particularly pushed boundaries, something Coppola and De Palma never have done. As for Godfather III, that was just a cash in to pay for Coppola's vineyard, he ruined a legacy with that film.
This film got a lot of flak from some gays when it aired but I can't understand why (and I am gay). There is a gay S+M sub culture in many large US and European cities even with bars like those featured in the movie. There is always an element of risk - particularly if cruising in a place frequented by people into this type of thing - that there might be someone deranged and ready to strike for a variety of motives. the film portrayed this well.
Yeah this was a really good movie. The terror of Pacino's character (an undercover cop) trying to do his job in a wholly unregulated foreign environment with very few real boundaries make the suspense even more palpable.
I thought it was an interesting film for it's time ~ a tad outdated now perhaps, but still fairly well acted. I'm not sure if it's available on DVD - is it? I know at one time it was on VHS -
The soundtrack was done by Willy Deville, Rough Trade, Mutiny, the Cripples, John Hiatt, Madelynn von Ritz, and the Germs. The Germs only did one song.
Actually, the film's director William Friedkin was a fan and The Germs recorded six songs, all of which were originally intended to be included on the soundtrack, but of which only one, "Lion's Share" was used.
all throught the film there is a strong suggestion that pacino is the killer. as the film progresse we see that pacino has homosexual feelings that he is trying to conceal which could be a reason for him killing the guys that he meets. also he falls in love with the young man from upstairs who ends up dead, but they took 40 mins from the film which i hope they will put back in and rerelease it as it may tell us more
i think that it's the guy who pacino has arrested. but at the end the last guy who was killed, was probably killed by pacino because he couldn't handle that he's becoming a gay..
You know who I think was the killer? That creepy cop (played by Joe Spinell) who is really homphobic in the first scene, yet is hanging around in the gay bar later on. There was never any explanation for it...
Very good movie, but it scared the gay out of me. Of course it was directed by William Friedkin who made the Exorcist. A homophobes nightmare; to be thrust into the culture only to be stalked by a killer. The first murder scene made me scream outloud. It's amazingly twisted but so subtle you can't help but be drawn into it.
this is either a TV spot or a teaser trailer - kinda arty/cool with just B&W stills and no dialogue but the end -I like it more than the full length theatrical trailer - this has more menace, mystery - tragically, about ONE HOUR of deleted footage Freidkin was forced to CUT from his original film by the studios was lost/destroyed/never found again - hence there will never be a true directors cut DVD.
Eisses and Vasquez were both Level 3 sex offenders, considered the type most likely to reoffend.
Their bodies were found by an iron gay also a faggot sex offender who said a man wearing a blue jumpsuit and a cap that said FBI came in smelling like weed.
He was an FBI agent and said he wanted to discuss their status as faggot sex offenders
The man said there was hit list Internet site Then teddy-fem said he/she heard 2 firecrackers but it was 1 round 1 maggot
I loved this film, but this trailer isn't fair to it. The trailer makes it look as though gay men are all violent predators. There were scenes in the film that shpw the everyday side of gay life (like the scene where Pacino and his neighbor go out in the dayime).
But this trailer tries to exploit the lurid visuals and make it look like a horror film.
Setting the record straight here (pun intended). I am a 26 year old homosexual. I've done my research. Like it or not, this movie does NOT degrade the homosexual community in any way. The sad truth is, THIS IS WHAT NEW YORK WAS LIKE BACK THEN. Any homosexual who has a problem with this film: Sink back into your bubble-dome life where ignorance is bliss. It's no masterpiece, but it's no piece of crap either. It's a time piece with some decent performances. Plain and simple.
@Tenebre81 Well, how impressive. You've "done your research" huh? I suggest you go back and research a little more if you think that ALL gay guys were into this wacky shit , in New York "BACK THEN", or anywhere else. And if YOU are a "homosexual" who has a problem with THAT - sink back into that bubble dome that is your head and consider what you're praising. This film was a deliberate hate piece that thankfully sank faster than a turd in a flushed toilet.
CRUISING is plain and simple, one of the best films of the 80's and one of FRIEDKIN'S most underrated masterpieces.
That guy who thinks SCORSESE is "the only one from teh 70's still doing great" did never get at least close to films like SCARFACE, DRESSED TO KILL, TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A, CARLITO'S WAY, OUTSIDERS, RUMBLE FISH, PEGGY SUE, COTTON CLUB, DRACULA, GODFATHER 3, BODY DOUBLE, CASUALTIES OF WAR, BLOW OUT and many, many others.
Your memory is very selective, you forgot to mention such DePalma horrors as 'Mission : Impossible', 'The Black Dahlia' and 'Raising Cain'. Let us not forget Coppola's 'Jack' with Robin Williams. Scorsese is the only one who does not have a 'TRULY BAD' movie in his filmography, and by the way, to use your own words, 'Cruising' is, plain and simple... CRAP !!! Entertaining CRAP, but still CRAP !!!
Wow, it only took 46 points to prove Godwin's Law (with that Leni Riefenstahl comment.)
Some of us in the queer community actually really like this film, don't think it generalizes about the gay community at all, don't think it conflates SM people with murderers at all, find it compelling, gritty and fascinating. And somehow the fact that the kneejerk San Fran pc police hate it is icing on the cake...
Director, William Friedkin's best work was in the 70's ('The Exorcist', 'The French Connection'). It was mostly downhill from there, starting with this film. Martin Scorsese appears to be the only director to emerge from the 70's who has kept his quality level at a high standard.
For more on the movie directors of the 70's, read 'Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-and-Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood' by Peter Biskind.
Just saw this on the big screen in NY. At least one really goofy scene (the interrogation scene - you know what I mean if you've seen it) but on the whole it was really good. Good story, well told, beautifully shot, engaging, interesting conceits, deep and layered. Some of it is rather disturbing as well (the first death - my god!)
Yes, it's even more problematic than any regular exploitative film, only because it's compelling, but being socially irresponsible is not same as being misunderstood.
Speaking of 'compelling', Leni Riefenstahl's films were also quite compelling. Say that to those eight million people who have perished under the hands of her artistic patron who very well 'understood' her compelling films!
Why Cruising Still Sucks(19)...As surely as it was William Friedkin's prerogative to follow his creative muse and make "cruising," it was our community's prerogative to turn out en masse and call him on it. Ten years after Stonewall, the queens weren't buying it.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(18) ...His present claim that contemporary audiences are more "sophisticated" and therefore more receptive to Cruising, if not more friendly, doesn't mitigate the damage done to our community at the time—-it actually comes across more like a retroactive condescension, trivializing the gut response of the thousands of people who protested the film's appearance across the country.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(17)...Despite his best intentions - he seemed like a nice guy at the screening and has made some great and important films - it was through his lens that the truth about gay people became further distorted in the eyes of the mainstream. his perceptions and misperceptions of our subculture were shot through the goggles of a rather clueless, if well-meaning, straight tourist, not a "member of the tribe."
Why Cruising Still Sucks(16)......The Boys In The Band spoke aloud many truths to gay men of its generation and beyond,addressing both our internal and external struggles. moreover, whatever flaws it has can be attributed not to its director, who merely had to aim the camera at a well-oiled veteran broadway cast, but to its openly gay author, Mart Crowley.
The responsibility for Cruising's problems, on the other hand, lies squarely on the shoulders of William Friedkin.
(It should be noted that legions of men and women have entered into leather life and/or have suffered family disapproval of their sexuality—-an issue for the killer—-without degenerating into homo-cidal maniacs.)
One can't really talk about Cruising without mentioning The Boys In The Band. Both had the same director, both were met with criticism Why Cruising Still Sucks(15)...,from the gay community—-but the distinction here is that, despite its mixed reception,
Why Cruising Still Sucks(14)...,sensationally conflating a valid mode of sexual self-expression with serial-killer sickie-ness, featuring a plot replete with sadistically-explicit murder sequences which have the power to shock even today.
Yes, according to the filmmaker, "cruising" was simply intended to be a thriller set in one particular milieu. But is it any wonder we reacted as we did?
Why Cruising Still Sucks(13) In 1976, no less than 65 police commandos and two helicopters (!) descended upon an L.A. charity "slave auction," organized by the Leather Fraternity, making mass arrests for "trafficking in humans."
And so, emerging in a social climate such as this was the first widely distributed mainstream hollywood film with a full-on gay storyline,
....aiding and abetting in the creation of a film that perpetuates distorted notions of the very lives they lead.
It's important to remember that only a few years prior to the film's undertaking that an incident occurred confirming society's willingness to believe the worst about homosexuals, and s&m practioners in particular.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(11)...Yet later on the screenplay describes leathermen / s&m devotees as "scared, weird little guys who don't know why they do what they do." and while local gays recruited as extras lend a fascinating authenticity to the bar scenes, these "real people" are in the end reduced to the most superficial level of participation, rendered as caricatures, props rather than actual human beings,.. .
Why Cruising Still Sucks(10)...To be fair, neither Pacino's nor any of the film's characters were saddled with the usual stereotypical gay mannerisms. and, perhaps to head off any criticism from middle-of-the-road gays, the script has a detective in an early scene describing the victims thus far as "not into mainstream gay life...[but] into heavy leather."
Why Cruising Still Sucks(9)...What Friedkin didn't mention was that it was Bell who loudly led the charge when gays hit the streets, not to cruise, but to protest. Bell in fact urged them to do whatever it took to disrupt the shooting; actions ranged from cutting power cables and blowing whistles to "a thousand guys yelling at Al Pacino," recalled Friedkin, referring to a location scene where the star drifts down a dark alley.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(8) ...Needless to say, the by-now long-liberated queens of New York weren't havin' it.
During the Q & A following a recent press screening of Cruising (at the Castro Theater of all places), Friedkin praised the writing of one Arthur Bell, a columnist for the village voice whose articles on a series of murders in the gay s/m demi-monde had inspired him to make the film.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(7)...By that time we were fed up. After decades of being portrayed by hollywood as sick, suicidal and/or predatory, here was william friedkin dragging, however unintentionally, defamatory stereotypes into the 1980's, ten YEARS after Stonewall, with a movie focusing on gay s/m serial killer(s). and, adding insult to injury, he was filming it on OUR turf, Greenwich Village and the meat-packing district.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(6)...But despite these attractions, as well as the studio's current attempt to rehabilitate the film's reputation nearly 30 years later (claiming it was "widely misinterpreted" by audiences of the day), Cruising remains as problematic now as when it was released before an infuriated gay public in 1980.
Why Cruising Still Sucks(5)...,not the least of which is Al Pacino's out-of-synch, over-the-top spaz dance as he frantically tries to assimilate into a writhing crowd of rock-disco afficionados. also notable are a pair of uniform queens rather over-emphatically licking a nightstick, as well as an inexplicable scene of a giant jockstrap-clad black cowboy who seems to have wandered in off the set of "querrelle."
by dj bus station john - and whose meanings have been rendered largely obsolete as they've been reduced over time to mere accessories for the trendy (gay & straight alike) - are on display in abundance.
Finally, we're invited to marvel at the spectacle of a number of unintentionally camp highlights,...
as the camera pans various tableaux of lusty men-on-the-make, the viewer finds himself literally cruising the screen...everybody's lookin' good!
Cruising also presents contemporary hipsters with the opportunity to see where their current fashion affectations originated; those moustaches, hankies, key rings and aviator-style sunglasses which once served as sexual signifiers
The film offers today's youth much more than just a fleeting glimpse of the now long-gone gay NYC sexual underground enjoyed by their elders. In fact, Cruising works best as a travelogue of pre-disney-fied gay manhattan, a celluloid tour of the city's most notorious bars, back rooms and bushes, refreshingly populated by non-tweezery, pedicure-free, steroid-deficient and un-cyber-tainted denizens of the night.
This great historically, but it is not the trailer. It is the teaser. The actual trailer (produced by Kaleidosope Films' famous movie-industry trailer guru Andy Kuehn) has actual scenes with dialog, an original score and the great addition of Pacino's little singing piece to add tension. I hope it's on the new DVD (Sept 2007)
The cowboy-strutting, buff, jock-strap wearing, black guy stole the show! I was like WTF?!?! He came into the interrogation room, and while the cops ignored him, bitch slapped the guy! Classic!
murders aside, this movie brings back a time when it was all alot of fun, meaning the pre aids decadadence, I think NYC has become to uptight with all its new rules and regulations, the disneyfying of 42nd street etc. Go anywhere else in the world and check out the gay scene, people are aware of what they should and should not do to protect themselves and still manage to enjoy themselves witout any sacrifices,americans are too uptight, thats why europeans laugh at us, think Amsterdam.
This is a perfect example of those kinds "grindhouse" late 70s/early 80s B movie trailers that Tarentino/Rodriguez faked in "Grindhouse." Plus, all that man-on-man action & leather & the young Al Pacino are all so HOT!
A nice time step back to 60s era gay leather scene. But this movie is filled with scenes of gay men being taken home for sex...and then being stabbed multiple times. Very graphic and rather disgusting scenes.
It's not the sixties--it's 1979 and reflects the period well. The fact is that gay men were being murdered on a regular basis at that time. The movie was based on actual events.
This film is brilliant. It accurately portrays the lost world of pre-AIDS hardcore leather gay clubs in New York. Some of the scenes (at the Cockpit, Ramrod and Precinct Night) are visually stunning and were shot in the actual clubs using their members as extras.
I would give anything to be able to travel back in time to chat to such characters as 'Leather Mask' and 'Water Sport'. Wouldn't you?
What was referred to as the Cockpit was actually Hellfire. It was called "Precinct Night at the Cockpit". My understanding is that it was originally supposed to be done at the Mine Shaft, but they backed out.
All of the bar scenes were filmed at Hellfire. It was called the "Cockpit" for the movie, and the scene with people dressed as cops was called "Precinct Night" (at the Cockpit). Most of the extras were gay men, but they weren't "used" by the filmmakers. They all auditioned.
I also have this film on VHS. It's a creepy and disturbing movie with an ambiguous ending. Apparently, a lot was edited out of the final cut which explains why there were quite a few inconsistencies with the overall plot. It's definitely worth watching though.
Certain gay activists made false claims about the content of the film, much of which was due to a page that was supposedly copied from the script and circulated among the protestors. This was a LIE--plain and simple. I showed it to Bill Friedkin and he balked. When it came out, the people who based their actions on that info said that the scenes must have been cut, instead of just acknowledging that they were wrong.
No, "false claims"?. Please read on: Why Cruising Still Sucks(1)
As a DJ who's created a number of clubs celebrating the music, aesthetic and sexual freedom of the period during which Cruising was released, i've noticed that a significant number of the gay men in attendance—-the 20- & 30-somethings in particular—-seem excited and intrigued by the film's reissue on DVD. and why shouldn't they be?
'Cruising' was very controversial when it was released in 1980. Many in the gay community protested the storyline, a serial killer murdering homosexuals in New York City. This is probably why Warner Home Video has delayed the films release on DVD. Definitely not one of Al Pacino's best, but still an interesting 80's film oddity.
it's on IFC in the US every once in a while and rumor has it that Warner Home Entertainment is finally getting a DVD release ready for later this year!
funny how so many ignorant people post so much disgust for this movie or gay life when there was the sexual revolution for straight porn in the 70's when anything goes with that circle
hordetrooper 1 month ago
I stopped watching this sick disgusting movie as soon as two men started kissing at the beginning of the movie!
thetruegladiator 1 month ago
for a good look at the politics of this film, and the time from when it was made, read "The Celluloid Closet," by Vito Russo.
witchman67 1 month ago
Someone PLEASE post this movie on YT. Yes it'll be flagged maybe BUT for that little while we get to see it . . .
launwatch 3 months ago
LOL when i saw this trailer back in 1979 attached to The Rose,i thought it was A Gang film(which were in vogue in 1979-The Warriors,The Wanderers,Blvd Nights) I was only 10-lol
deckard97 4 months ago
The reason that this film DOES degrade the Gay community and why it sparked protests and was universally panned by all critics as well as Civil Rights groups was not that it showed S &M clubs- they did and still do exist-. It was because they created the impression that ALL Gays did this wacky shit- and that is a lie. Men who seek out fast. non committed sex do exist in the Gay community- they also exist in a much larger group in the Straight community. Most men, Straight or Gay, settle down.
rickw1100 4 months ago 15
@rickw1100
With all due respect, where exactly does it even suggest anything like that?
It is a film about male leather fetishists and two men targeting the scene. It says nothing about the heterosexual equivalents or everyday homosexuality. Why? Because both are irrelevant in the context of the film.
They didn't "create the impression" of anything. The self-proclaimed gay community [got] "the impression" and their panties in a twist. This is not their kind of gay movie. It is ours.
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
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rickw1100 4 months ago
@rickw1100
I have seen it several times, you keep making false statements.
1. [Where] does Cruising "create the impression" that all homosexuals are like the men in the film? How is it not obvious that the leather scene is something other and more than same sex attraction?
Your impressions are your own subjective interpretions, not objective facts. Neither the director or anyone else involved in this prodution, is responsible for your conclusions or actions based on those same conclusions.
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@rickw1100
2. Where does Cruising say anything about the heterosexual equivalents? Less than a week ago, you yourself wrote a top rated post, making the point that the film was presenting a false image of "the gay community".
I quote: "Men who seek out fast. non committed sex do exist in the Gay community- they also exist in a much larger group in the Straight community. "
Are you now saying that the film does in fact bring them up?
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@SaintsWillMarch LOL!! Well, with all due respect to you "male leather fetishists" ,your "twisted panties" not withstanding, if you read about the history of this film, you will find that there were many instances of Gay/Lesbian club patrons attacked specifically by individuals who had seen it. One involved a shooting and killing of a man. If you don't believe that it says anything about "everyday homosexuality" or its "heterosexual equivalents", you need to see it again. Ur kind of movie? WTF?
rickw1100 4 months ago
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SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@rickw1100
3. How exactly did Cruising "created the impression" that it was a strictly homosexual lifestyle and one that is representative of all homosexuals, which was your point, if it simultaneously [did] say something about the heterosexual equivalents and the safe, ordinary, everyday homosexuals? Which it didn't.
You are systematically contradicting your own original post.
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@SaintsWillMarch It creates that impression because ALL of the Gay characters are either predators or victims related to S&M or violence. It brings up the heterosexual equivalents by OMITTING them- if you show the S&M scene- show it all. If you truly want to read an in depth study of the film and why it was universally panned by all media - read Vito Russo's THE CELLULOID CLOSET. The film is about a straight cop "catching" the "Gay" and becoming a killer. There are NO "safe,ordinary, Gays in it.
rickw1100 4 months ago
@rickw1100
"It creates that impression because ALL of the Gay characters are either predators or victims related to S&M or violence."
"It brings up the heterosexual equivalents by OMITTING them- if you show the S&M scene- show it all."
The film is indirectly based on "the bag murders" of Paul Bateson.
The heterosexuals you talk about are irrelevant in a film about a [homosexual] serial killer targeting [homosexual] leather fetishists.
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@rickw1100
"There are NO "safe,ordinary, Gays in it."
Of course not. Like the heterosexuals, they are irrelevant. They would not appear on his radar and would add nothing to the film. Again; it is a matter of focus and CONTEXT.
Is there an imam or rabbi at the bed of Regan in The Exoricst?
"Should" there have been?
SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@SaintsWillMarch LOL !! Nice try-but NO cigar. You cannot take this film out of the "context" of how Gay and Lesbian people have portrayed in film from film's conception. Do yourself a favor and view the DVD of The Celluloid Closet. The evolution of how Gays/Lesbians have been portrayed throughout cinematic history in America might surprise you. Why Friedkin's film was so despised by Gays and enlightened Straights- why Pacino would drop it from his official filmography. Fredkin's focus? LOL!
rickw1100 4 months ago
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SaintsWillMarch 4 months ago
@rickw1100 I was never under the impression that it was degrading the gay community. I saw it as a aerial killer who slays men frequenting S&M bars. So therefore if the story is about a cop going undercover to catch this particular killer, logically the film makers would be depicting the S&M culture. The point of the movie is not to portray the homosexual community entirely, but that particular section of the community because it is relevant to the story.
ufuckfacesonofabitch 4 months ago
@rickw1100 For the record, I think it is more negative towards the police than the gays. Just about every cop in the movie is depicted as a corrupt, violent and manipulative.
ufuckfacesonofabitch 4 months ago
@ufuckfacesonofabitch Not so. Friedkin makes NO distinction between gays involved in S&M behaviors and all others. If one examines everything from the filthy,insidious dialogue from beginning to end as well as the subliminal split second shots of men engaged in sexual relations inter-cut with the brutal stabbing in the first murder, this film was an invitation to hate and kill gay men. There is not one gay character who isn't a predator or pathetic victim. Back in '80, this film cost lives.
rickw1100 4 months ago
@rickw1100 Well, that's your opinion. I still stand by mine!
ufuckfacesonofabitch 4 months ago
@ufuckfacesonofabitch - No argument , you have a right to stand by your opinion. But you owe it to yourself to see the film "The Celluloid Closet"- it traces the images of gay and lesbian people historically in film, from it's inception to present times. Its' a great piece that I believe you would find interesting if you are a fan of "Cruising" or any other gay-themed film. See it if you can.
rickw1100 4 months ago
@rickw1100 I will, I see someone has posted it on YT.
ufuckfacesonofabitch 4 months ago
All those Bars,Clubs ..is that the same area(Meat Packing Dist)Where Alex Forrest(Glenn Close) lived in Fatal Attraction?
deckard97 7 months ago
@DanielTheWalrus Scorsese directed three of the best film's of the 80's and of all time and they are Raging Bull, The King of Comedy and After Hours. He also directed great films like The Color of Money and The Last Temptation of Christ, that particularly pushed boundaries, something Coppola and De Palma never have done. As for Godfather III, that was just a cash in to pay for Coppola's vineyard, he ruined a legacy with that film.
harrytheblurfan 9 months ago
pacino looks like stallone in this trailer
Scorpianslady23 1 year ago
this is an incredible movie,so heavy and a kind of hardcore im 28 and just love it..pacino is great here...
absolutelynerko 1 year ago
This film got a lot of flak from some gays when it aired but I can't understand why (and I am gay). There is a gay S+M sub culture in many large US and European cities even with bars like those featured in the movie. There is always an element of risk - particularly if cruising in a place frequented by people into this type of thing - that there might be someone deranged and ready to strike for a variety of motives. the film portrayed this well.
Extrapolator29 2 years ago
Yeah this was a really good movie. The terror of Pacino's character (an undercover cop) trying to do his job in a wholly unregulated foreign environment with very few real boundaries make the suspense even more palpable.
devastateurface 2 years ago
Gnarly fukin trailer!
goood creepy retro genius!
cchavez1 2 years ago
can u pls upload the following movie???? tq
jothileo 2 years ago
I thought it was an interesting film for it's time ~ a tad outdated now perhaps, but still fairly well acted. I'm not sure if it's available on DVD - is it? I know at one time it was on VHS -
JohnnyGNV 2 years ago
THE GERMS DID THE SOUNDTRACK!!!!
ihaveboggyturds 2 years ago
The soundtrack was done by Willy Deville, Rough Trade, Mutiny, the Cripples, John Hiatt, Madelynn von Ritz, and the Germs. The Germs only did one song.
strangeparty 2 years ago
Actually, the film's director William Friedkin was a fan and The Germs recorded six songs, all of which were originally intended to be included on the soundtrack, but of which only one, "Lion's Share" was used.
ihaveboggyturds 2 years ago
god damn it, who's the murderer?!?!?
kerzha 2 years ago
all throught the film there is a strong suggestion that pacino is the killer. as the film progresse we see that pacino has homosexual feelings that he is trying to conceal which could be a reason for him killing the guys that he meets. also he falls in love with the young man from upstairs who ends up dead, but they took 40 mins from the film which i hope they will put back in and rerelease it as it may tell us more
skepticepilleptic 2 years ago
i think that it's the guy who pacino has arrested. but at the end the last guy who was killed, was probably killed by pacino because he couldn't handle that he's becoming a gay..
Luka091 2 years ago
You know who I think was the killer? That creepy cop (played by Joe Spinell) who is really homphobic in the first scene, yet is hanging around in the gay bar later on. There was never any explanation for it...
TimsVideos17 2 years ago
Very good movie, but it scared the gay out of me. Of course it was directed by William Friedkin who made the Exorcist. A homophobes nightmare; to be thrust into the culture only to be stalked by a killer. The first murder scene made me scream outloud. It's amazingly twisted but so subtle you can't help but be drawn into it.
inlivingcolor7 3 years ago 5
haha. i agree. the first murder was terrifying!
'who is here?' 'we're here'
i held my pillow to my mouth and screamed into it. haha
seriously, it was a thrill. this movie is great!
fredzeve 2 years ago
It scared the straight outta me.
MeatDevlin 2 years ago 2
this is either a TV spot or a teaser trailer - kinda arty/cool with just B&W stills and no dialogue but the end -I like it more than the full length theatrical trailer - this has more menace, mystery - tragically, about ONE HOUR of deleted footage Freidkin was forced to CUT from his original film by the studios was lost/destroyed/never found again - hence there will never be a true directors cut DVD.
cabeef 3 years ago
HOT! I LOVED this movie..saw it in the 70's when it first came out. Had never seen two men kiss before on the big screen! That was cool!
Oxbloodred 3 years ago
I loved and remember and loved this movie also! you have a point I think It was a first for me also!
fruityblack 3 years ago
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Their bodies were found by an iron gay also a faggot sex offender who said a man wearing a blue jumpsuit and a cap that said FBI came in smelling like weed.
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The maggots were found executed
gentleman1959 3 years ago
Cool
dynomatik 3 years ago
where can i watch the entire movie??
toniboixxx 4 years ago
In spain is edited in dvd.Try to download it with ares or something.
communistavenger 4 years ago
netflix has it
smokedaddyo 4 years ago
I loved this film, but this trailer isn't fair to it. The trailer makes it look as though gay men are all violent predators. There were scenes in the film that shpw the everyday side of gay life (like the scene where Pacino and his neighbor go out in the dayime).
But this trailer tries to exploit the lurid visuals and make it look like a horror film.
MondoBeno 4 years ago 4
This trailer displays the movie for what it is, a Murder mystery. The murders take place against the backdrop of hardcore gay sex clubs.
dp6876 3 years ago 2
Setting the record straight here (pun intended). I am a 26 year old homosexual. I've done my research. Like it or not, this movie does NOT degrade the homosexual community in any way. The sad truth is, THIS IS WHAT NEW YORK WAS LIKE BACK THEN. Any homosexual who has a problem with this film: Sink back into your bubble-dome life where ignorance is bliss. It's no masterpiece, but it's no piece of crap either. It's a time piece with some decent performances. Plain and simple.
Tenebre81 4 years ago 17
The movie didn't say what motivated the killer. His father tells him to do it when he's young. WTF?
jimbojim68 3 years ago
@Tenebre81 Well, how impressive. You've "done your research" huh? I suggest you go back and research a little more if you think that ALL gay guys were into this wacky shit , in New York "BACK THEN", or anywhere else. And if YOU are a "homosexual" who has a problem with THAT - sink back into that bubble dome that is your head and consider what you're praising. This film was a deliberate hate piece that thankfully sank faster than a turd in a flushed toilet.
rickw1100 4 months ago
this movie ruined my childhood
GideonStargaze85 4 years ago
a child is not supposed to see that kind of movie !!!!!!!
marcello163 4 years ago 3
exactly!!!
GideonStargaze85 4 years ago
LOL what a drama queen
strangeparty 2 years ago
sick sick sick
tmack62 4 years ago
CRUISING is plain and simple, one of the best films of the 80's and one of FRIEDKIN'S most underrated masterpieces.
That guy who thinks SCORSESE is "the only one from teh 70's still doing great" did never get at least close to films like SCARFACE, DRESSED TO KILL, TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A, CARLITO'S WAY, OUTSIDERS, RUMBLE FISH, PEGGY SUE, COTTON CLUB, DRACULA, GODFATHER 3, BODY DOUBLE, CASUALTIES OF WAR, BLOW OUT and many, many others.
DanielTheWalrus 4 years ago 6
Your memory is very selective, you forgot to mention such DePalma horrors as 'Mission : Impossible', 'The Black Dahlia' and 'Raising Cain'. Let us not forget Coppola's 'Jack' with Robin Williams. Scorsese is the only one who does not have a 'TRULY BAD' movie in his filmography, and by the way, to use your own words, 'Cruising' is, plain and simple... CRAP !!! Entertaining CRAP, but still CRAP !!!
filmfan70 4 years ago
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE and JACK are great.
And SCORSESE did KUNDUN and AGE OF INNOCENCE that must be more awful than anything bad that DE PALMA or COPPOLA made it, putting together.
DanielTheWalrus 4 years ago
Unique trailer , great
Scorsesiano 4 years ago
wow, methinks someone on this comment thread doth protesteth too much.
luminositydeville 4 years ago
Wow, it only took 46 points to prove Godwin's Law (with that Leni Riefenstahl comment.)
Some of us in the queer community actually really like this film, don't think it generalizes about the gay community at all, don't think it conflates SM people with murderers at all, find it compelling, gritty and fascinating. And somehow the fact that the kneejerk San Fran pc police hate it is icing on the cake...
clemdane 4 years ago
Director, William Friedkin's best work was in the 70's ('The Exorcist', 'The French Connection'). It was mostly downhill from there, starting with this film. Martin Scorsese appears to be the only director to emerge from the 70's who has kept his quality level at a high standard.
For more on the movie directors of the 70's, read 'Easy Riders, Raging Bulls: How the Sex-Drugs-and-Rock 'N' Roll Generation Saved Hollywood' by Peter Biskind.
filmfan70 4 years ago
That's gotta be the bigest bunch of crap that i've ever read...
DanielTheWalrus 4 years ago
Just saw this on the big screen in NY. At least one really goofy scene (the interrogation scene - you know what I mean if you've seen it) but on the whole it was really good. Good story, well told, beautifully shot, engaging, interesting conceits, deep and layered. Some of it is rather disturbing as well (the first death - my god!)
joezam44 4 years ago 2
There is some beautiful photography in this film but the plot is incomprehensible.
toad212 4 years ago
A compelling trailer for an equally compelling and sadly misunderstood film.
trainthought 4 years ago
Yes, it's even more problematic than any regular exploitative film, only because it's compelling, but being socially irresponsible is not same as being misunderstood.
dksf 4 years ago
Speaking of 'compelling', Leni Riefenstahl's films were also quite compelling. Say that to those eight million people who have perished under the hands of her artistic patron who very well 'understood' her compelling films!
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(19)...As surely as it was William Friedkin's prerogative to follow his creative muse and make "cruising," it was our community's prerogative to turn out en masse and call him on it. Ten years after Stonewall, the queens weren't buying it.
Why should we now?
dj bus station john
San Francisco
San Francisaco Bay Times, September 6, 2007
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(18) ...His present claim that contemporary audiences are more "sophisticated" and therefore more receptive to Cruising, if not more friendly, doesn't mitigate the damage done to our community at the time—-it actually comes across more like a retroactive condescension, trivializing the gut response of the thousands of people who protested the film's appearance across the country.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(17)...Despite his best intentions - he seemed like a nice guy at the screening and has made some great and important films - it was through his lens that the truth about gay people became further distorted in the eyes of the mainstream. his perceptions and misperceptions of our subculture were shot through the goggles of a rather clueless, if well-meaning, straight tourist, not a "member of the tribe."
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(16)......The Boys In The Band spoke aloud many truths to gay men of its generation and beyond,addressing both our internal and external struggles. moreover, whatever flaws it has can be attributed not to its director, who merely had to aim the camera at a well-oiled veteran broadway cast, but to its openly gay author, Mart Crowley.
The responsibility for Cruising's problems, on the other hand, lies squarely on the shoulders of William Friedkin.
dksf 4 years ago
(It should be noted that legions of men and women have entered into leather life and/or have suffered family disapproval of their sexuality—-an issue for the killer—-without degenerating into homo-cidal maniacs.)
One can't really talk about Cruising without mentioning The Boys In The Band. Both had the same director, both were met with criticism Why Cruising Still Sucks(15)...,from the gay community—-but the distinction here is that, despite its mixed reception,
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(14)...,sensationally conflating a valid mode of sexual self-expression with serial-killer sickie-ness, featuring a plot replete with sadistically-explicit murder sequences which have the power to shock even today.
Yes, according to the filmmaker, "cruising" was simply intended to be a thriller set in one particular milieu. But is it any wonder we reacted as we did?
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(13) In 1976, no less than 65 police commandos and two helicopters (!) descended upon an L.A. charity "slave auction," organized by the Leather Fraternity, making mass arrests for "trafficking in humans."
And so, emerging in a social climate such as this was the first widely distributed mainstream hollywood film with a full-on gay storyline,
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(12)
....aiding and abetting in the creation of a film that perpetuates distorted notions of the very lives they lead.
It's important to remember that only a few years prior to the film's undertaking that an incident occurred confirming society's willingness to believe the worst about homosexuals, and s&m practioners in particular.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(11)...Yet later on the screenplay describes leathermen / s&m devotees as "scared, weird little guys who don't know why they do what they do." and while local gays recruited as extras lend a fascinating authenticity to the bar scenes, these "real people" are in the end reduced to the most superficial level of participation, rendered as caricatures, props rather than actual human beings,.. .
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(10)...To be fair, neither Pacino's nor any of the film's characters were saddled with the usual stereotypical gay mannerisms. and, perhaps to head off any criticism from middle-of-the-road gays, the script has a detective in an early scene describing the victims thus far as "not into mainstream gay life...[but] into heavy leather."
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(9)...What Friedkin didn't mention was that it was Bell who loudly led the charge when gays hit the streets, not to cruise, but to protest. Bell in fact urged them to do whatever it took to disrupt the shooting; actions ranged from cutting power cables and blowing whistles to "a thousand guys yelling at Al Pacino," recalled Friedkin, referring to a location scene where the star drifts down a dark alley.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(8) ...Needless to say, the by-now long-liberated queens of New York weren't havin' it.
During the Q & A following a recent press screening of Cruising (at the Castro Theater of all places), Friedkin praised the writing of one Arthur Bell, a columnist for the village voice whose articles on a series of murders in the gay s/m demi-monde had inspired him to make the film.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(7)...By that time we were fed up. After decades of being portrayed by hollywood as sick, suicidal and/or predatory, here was william friedkin dragging, however unintentionally, defamatory stereotypes into the 1980's, ten YEARS after Stonewall, with a movie focusing on gay s/m serial killer(s). and, adding insult to injury, he was filming it on OUR turf, Greenwich Village and the meat-packing district.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(6)...But despite these attractions, as well as the studio's current attempt to rehabilitate the film's reputation nearly 30 years later (claiming it was "widely misinterpreted" by audiences of the day), Cruising remains as problematic now as when it was released before an infuriated gay public in 1980.
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(5)...,not the least of which is Al Pacino's out-of-synch, over-the-top spaz dance as he frantically tries to assimilate into a writhing crowd of rock-disco afficionados. also notable are a pair of uniform queens rather over-emphatically licking a nightstick, as well as an inexplicable scene of a giant jockstrap-clad black cowboy who seems to have wandered in off the set of "querrelle."
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(4)
by dj bus station john - and whose meanings have been rendered largely obsolete as they've been reduced over time to mere accessories for the trendy (gay & straight alike) - are on display in abundance.
Finally, we're invited to marvel at the spectacle of a number of unintentionally camp highlights,...
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(3)
by dj bus station john
San Francisco
as the camera pans various tableaux of lusty men-on-the-make, the viewer finds himself literally cruising the screen...everybody's lookin' good!
Cruising also presents contemporary hipsters with the opportunity to see where their current fashion affectations originated; those moustaches, hankies, key rings and aviator-style sunglasses which once served as sexual signifiers
dksf 4 years ago
Why Cruising Still Sucks(2)
The film offers today's youth much more than just a fleeting glimpse of the now long-gone gay NYC sexual underground enjoyed by their elders. In fact, Cruising works best as a travelogue of pre-disney-fied gay manhattan, a celluloid tour of the city's most notorious bars, back rooms and bushes, refreshingly populated by non-tweezery, pedicure-free, steroid-deficient and un-cyber-tainted denizens of the night.
dksf 4 years ago
Tiiiiiiiiiiii malakia !
tsoutsoubroutsou 4 years ago
FINALLY !!! 'Cruising' was finally released on DVD today, Tuesday, September 18th.
filmfan70 4 years ago
I heard this was protested by the Gay community in the 7Os,Allthough all my Gay friends love it and own it!
16MR 4 years ago
This great historically, but it is not the trailer. It is the teaser. The actual trailer (produced by Kaleidosope Films' famous movie-industry trailer guru Andy Kuehn) has actual scenes with dialog, an original score and the great addition of Pacino's little singing piece to add tension. I hope it's on the new DVD (Sept 2007)
herefilms 4 years ago
The cowboy-strutting, buff, jock-strap wearing, black guy stole the show! I was like WTF?!?! He came into the interrogation room, and while the cops ignored him, bitch slapped the guy! Classic!
PartySized 4 years ago
Great trailer - really creepy.
Great actor - Pacino
Great director - Friedkin
Great story - Great poster
Shame about the film
Rave1977 4 years ago
murders aside, this movie brings back a time when it was all alot of fun, meaning the pre aids decadadence, I think NYC has become to uptight with all its new rules and regulations, the disneyfying of 42nd street etc. Go anywhere else in the world and check out the gay scene, people are aware of what they should and should not do to protect themselves and still manage to enjoy themselves witout any sacrifices,americans are too uptight, thats why europeans laugh at us, think Amsterdam.
latintoppapi 4 years ago
You think New York is uptight? Try Boston!
BeatBuddy 4 years ago
This is a perfect example of those kinds "grindhouse" late 70s/early 80s B movie trailers that Tarentino/Rodriguez faked in "Grindhouse." Plus, all that man-on-man action & leather & the young Al Pacino are all so HOT!
utubevolt 4 years ago
Well, in the extended cut of Death Proof, Tarantino IS using one of the songs from the Cruising soundtrack.
AngelofRent 4 years ago
buena pelicula , un poco fuerte
manugrancanaria 4 years ago
A nice time step back to 60s era gay leather scene. But this movie is filled with scenes of gay men being taken home for sex...and then being stabbed multiple times. Very graphic and rather disgusting scenes.
joshpembers 4 years ago
It's not the sixties--it's 1979 and reflects the period well. The fact is that gay men were being murdered on a regular basis at that time. The movie was based on actual events.
carezzza 4 years ago
This film is brilliant. It accurately portrays the lost world of pre-AIDS hardcore leather gay clubs in New York. Some of the scenes (at the Cockpit, Ramrod and Precinct Night) are visually stunning and were shot in the actual clubs using their members as extras.
I would give anything to be able to travel back in time to chat to such characters as 'Leather Mask' and 'Water Sport'. Wouldn't you?
gordyl 4 years ago
What was referred to as the Cockpit was actually Hellfire. It was called "Precinct Night at the Cockpit". My understanding is that it was originally supposed to be done at the Mine Shaft, but they backed out.
carezzza 4 years ago
All of the bar scenes were filmed at Hellfire. It was called the "Cockpit" for the movie, and the scene with people dressed as cops was called "Precinct Night" (at the Cockpit). Most of the extras were gay men, but they weren't "used" by the filmmakers. They all auditioned.
strangeparty 2 years ago
I also have this film on VHS. It's a creepy and disturbing movie with an ambiguous ending. Apparently, a lot was edited out of the final cut which explains why there were quite a few inconsistencies with the overall plot. It's definitely worth watching though.
Sati1979 4 years ago
Certain gay activists made false claims about the content of the film, much of which was due to a page that was supposedly copied from the script and circulated among the protestors. This was a LIE--plain and simple. I showed it to Bill Friedkin and he balked. When it came out, the people who based their actions on that info said that the scenes must have been cut, instead of just acknowledging that they were wrong.
carezzza 4 years ago
No, "false claims"?. Please read on: Why Cruising Still Sucks(1)
As a DJ who's created a number of clubs celebrating the music, aesthetic and sexual freedom of the period during which Cruising was released, i've noticed that a significant number of the gay men in attendance—-the 20- & 30-somethings in particular—-seem excited and intrigued by the film's reissue on DVD. and why shouldn't they be?
dksf 4 years ago
I've got this film on video.
jamesbx 4 years ago
'Cruising' was very controversial when it was released in 1980. Many in the gay community protested the storyline, a serial killer murdering homosexuals in New York City. This is probably why Warner Home Video has delayed the films release on DVD. Definitely not one of Al Pacino's best, but still an interesting 80's film oddity.
filmfan70 4 years ago
It's a shame that what started off as a knee-jerk reaction blossomed into one of the biggest mistakes in the history of gay activism.
carezzza 4 years ago
it's on IFC in the US every once in a while and rumor has it that Warner Home Entertainment is finally getting a DVD release ready for later this year!
sonic1976 5 years ago
My favourite film ever. When is this going to be released on DVD?
yozzerhughes 5 years ago
It's the best trailer for a film I ever seen. It catches your attention and doesn't let go, giving absolutely nothing away.
johnnozj 5 years ago
I'm dying to see this.. Does anyone know when it will be on DVD in the US?
banjaxed08 5 years ago