Adult Education - Making up lost time

[anotherutterance]

"The war with islam". ...way to show ignorance.

[shmeebegek1]

@anotherutterance Or to acknowledge reality?

[whatguess2003]

this is not what i want!!!!!!!!!

[selvmordspilot]

Read on the history of philosophy and get the whole package.

[Learnbase]

I'm 11 owned...

[azharoslan]

to life-long-learning!!!!!

u r my inspiration. thx.!

[TheInfinite91]

Yes I agree, start with history. I'm 19 and am at college right now. I did a little history in high school, but definitely not enough. Whenever I read classic literature for example, they talk about certain events that I unfortunately do not understand. Great advice Cropperb.

[luvthetunesmannn]

@TheInfinite91 I think thats a good reason to supplement history w/ literature- its a great way to see many aspects of the history of certain times and events through the reactions of people over time. its also inspiration to study different periods in history and recognize the most important- because people have written about it.

[Ironkettle]

History ties everything together. You see how things came up and then you aprreciate the area you study more. Like, if you study the history of "rebirth" you'll realize where rational thought came from and why rationale is important. I missed the boat big time... I am 22 and just started opening books. Do it! Get involved with our past.

[gotan2k3]

The 20th century spawned internationzal organisations such as NATO, UN and European Union, and the successes these IO's have enjoyed and still do has provided incentives for other states to do the same. Et cetera. 20th century is nothing? How about the holocaust?

I suggest you really start studying history and never, ever discard time periods or history confined to a small area (e.g. Luxembourgh's history).

ALL HISTORY IS VALUABLE. Never, ever discard history!

[gotan2k3]

The 20th century is nothing?

Is not the American Revolution strictly confined to USA's boundaries solely, and therefore must we not focus our attention to colonialism (and ultimately, decolonization) if we are to engage in the American revolution. Furthermore, read Harriet Beecher Stowe and Uncle Tom's Cabin.

[AngryComentGuy]

im 11

[ALFA2029]

most of history is a lie

[peterhndz]

hey, i'm 7. what the fuck?

just kidding, but come on don't discriminate!

[chimichangadeadpool]

I had lousy teachers, they thought i had dyslexia.

Instead of helping me the turned there attention on kids who could learn beter. So I never learned how to use grammer properly, because I was discouraged at school I always got bad grades. I've recentaly started to teach myself and guess what, I'm not dyslexic

[Irisheyes77christy]

Public schools graduated a relative of mine without knowing how to read because he was dyslexia. I am sorry, but there is never an excuse to graduate a grow man and letting him go into the world without knowing how to read. That is tragedy!

[ALFA2029]

This guy is telling people what to study. why would someone study history at adult age, We are living in the present, and a lot of history books is false. just a comment

[Mrmoc7]

How many history books have you started and finished?  Don't lie...

Yea, that's what I thought.

[ALFA2029]

Dude, who cares anyway. You can read 10,000,000 history books and I don't care about hoot lol

[XxxNuMbxxX0301]

Because you don't appreciate the need of an education.

[lakeviewviking]

I'm a libertarian, so we may have our differences, but your point here is spot-on...I've been thinking along these lines for awhile; your video is an inspiration to keep going in that direction!

[glowingdarkmatter25]

Not a mathematician, but I've been obsessive with Real Math, not just my times tables, since I was in Algebra 1(the first time). I'll be studying math till I am in grave. Although, I do study history via History Channel, and Drive Thru History DVDs. (I'm a 27 college drop out cause of Unschool living not failing.)

[soccom8341576]

If I were 60 and dying, I would create a new branch of mathematics and study history, then go do something awesome.

The essence of history should be taught alongside languages, , maths and science.

[masticina]

I love adult education, I mean when you we're a teenager you we're forced to learn and well sat in a class with assholes and idiots. Hardly the place to learn really.

But adult education you are there with other adults, who PAYED to learn and are WILLING to learn. A big pro

[miperralaica]

this video is great, I have the opportunity, not only to know more, also to learn a second language, like englis. whatching a video is a way to gain lost time. Les escribo desde rosario, Argentina. The city of liberty and permission to all kinds of behavior. A socialist city in the middle of a peronist government in Argentina.

[ecrbusiness]

you lost me at start with the ancient greeks....ill start in ancient babylon

[AhYaOk]

it helps to put everything else you learn in context. start w/ the big bang. :)

[Mongodelight]

history repeats itself. hyperinflationary holocausts f.e. The biggest is coming right know.

[kesslavada3]

out of curiosity, what kind of education do you have, degrees? if any?

[MrCropper]

"out of curiosity, what kind of education do you have, degrees? if any?"

I studied four years full-time then dropped out. I majored in History and Philosophy. Now I run my own private grade school, Deseret Academy.

[FreudsCigar]

You run a private school without any academic or professional qualifications?

[MrCropper]

"You run a private school without any academic or professional qualifications?"

Isn't America great? You wouldn't believe how quickly I've earned my 'qualifications' by educating kids that the public schools couldn't handle. In one case, a student was taking daily medication for his ADHD and after starting at my academy, he stopped taking the meds. He is a very good student (now that I've instructed him - he wasn't before).

[sivo123]

If you want to kill two birds with one stone, learn history and supplement it with history of math/science. Euclid's elements was used as the de facto textbook for an incredibly long time. It's interesting to see where our math and science comes from, as well.

[teejayandrade]

2nd vid by this guy ive watched. good points and great insight. thanks.

[thinkingisawesome]

I don't think he meant they were likely to die after five years.

[snoopyflick]

LOL, should a 60 year old learn about literature for the next 5 years. Most people don't die by 65 anymore

Wow 20th Century invented the internet. That's HUGE! You do make a valid point though. Mathematics and Science are really only important to those whose job that know it, unless you love mathematics, don't learn these things. Also i do agree with you, practically only good books will last that long and are weeded out

Jared Diamond is bad, even though my teacher once dated him. Two socialist.

[ababastingababa]

Where is this guy?

[thejobloshow]

Will Durant - The Story of Civilization.

[xxmonickkkkaxx]

Giving a bunch of money to Iran? What about the three billion we give to Israel every year?

[claudiusofrome]

MrCropper

Do you have a clear understanding of Egyptian History? Do you have any good books on the subject? Or any suggestions on the subject?

[gibbersome]

Ummm, I would replace learning history with reading biographies. You would be able to find much more useful life lessons in a biography than you would in an account of Julius Ceasar's war on Gaul.

[kirz778]

Which biographies did you enjoy reading the most so far?

[MrCropper]

"Which biographies did you enjoy reading the most so far?"

"The Age of the Moguls" by Holbrook. It is all about the most productive industrialists of the 1800's - Robber Barons as they have been erroneously called.

[canditj]

What about African History..."The cradle of civilization?"

[hughtub]

What African history? There's very little that Africans did that is significant to modern civilization, aside from the Caucasoid Egyptians. Virtually nothing of any importance came from sub-saharan Africans.

[kailabreece]

Can't go wrong with history... I like the podium friend :) Still, what's wrong with Mr. Diamond??? Guns, Germs, Steel rocks!

[cropperb]

"what's wrong with Mr. Diamond??? Guns, Germs, Steel rocks!"

See my video on that book on this channel.

[sunstorm007]

Excessive Capitalization is a like a Tick with me......

Grammer does not = typing.

Sorry, nice try.

[claudiusofrome]

Mr Cropper

Why not study history from the beginning?

[cropperb]

"Why not study history from the beginning?"

That is a good way to teach it, but if you're learning on your own, it is unlikely you would perservere if starting with books about the stone age and painstakingly studying every era from there forward. Much better to get a good footing of the important eras, and expand you study as you see fit.

[BOGZASV8MA]

thanks for an encouraging clip

[RobertPFreeman]

Do NOT go to Barnes and Noble and give 30 bucks to some socialist."

That made me laugh the hardest I have this week.

[oathniel]

I'll be putting up some history videos soon folks for those of you that are seriously interested please check them out and tell me if you liked it and what I might do to make them better. I am working on the first one now and It will hopefully be completed by today or tomorrow. It's very brief and good history but I must warn you I am partial to Greece so you may not completely agree with me there however I always attempt to be as truthful and objective as possible.

[luxfero]

steal a high school history book and learn history that way.

[KT45]

Thanks cropper! I really am trying to learn more myself. Your advice is really helpful

[exclamation3mark]

thanks for freeing the blacks in the 1800s, pity they couldn't vote till 1960s. Don't wanna blame but i think people like you had a lot to do with slavery

[itrod123]

That's a point their

[sudowoodonumbers]

Play some music or something for atmosphere.

[hoomelemele]

you're cute. I'm working on a treatise (sounds better than rave) on revisionist history right now. Maybe i'll send it to you when it's finished if you're interested in hearing an old lady's (52) opinions.

[wolfwolfwolf1979]

I don't believe in any of that objecivist garbage but this video was good. History is the most important. You seem like a nice person but I hate your ethics and your political views.

[hatc9723]

good post, as always. i'm currently studying history independently through at home college classes

[cropperb]

" at home college classes"

be careful - they probably focus on women and slavery. You have to sort out the good from the bad in those college texts, then when you're done with the college course, you have to get a real history book (at least 50 years old) and learn the important stuff that the modern books leave out.

[hatc9723]

these are through the state sanctioned Independent Studies of Idaho that are college classed but done at your own pace. i take them so i have something to work on over summer. right now i'm just taking broad world civilization surveys and they are pretty reasonable. but, as always, i'm leary of the propoganda and culturalism that infiltrates and denegrates the disciplines--though, not as much as the hick, alcoholic imbiciles that plague them here

[sunstorm007]

In Pure Capitalist Fashion, How the hell does getting an Education from you give someone marketability on the job market?

Is that a good ROI?

[velation]

I think learning about the 20th century is important too. If anything there are a huge number of mistakes that people can learn from; the Federal Reserve act, fiat money, the failure of socialism, reparations and the blowback, appeasement etc. If you're looking to learn from other peoples mistakes the 20th century certainly has its share.

[cropperb]

The 20th century has a LOT of lessons, but my ultimate point would be that those lessons can't "hit home" unless the person already knows a great deal about previous periods of history.

[cropperb]

Home office. See my video called "Cropper Lyceum, St George, Utah"

[MetaMorphy]

I think Edith Hamilton's idea makes two mistakes---first, it does not consider the importance of the right philosophy. Objectivists, even those with little knowledge of history, will not repeat its mistakes because they possess a better philosophy. Those who know history, but have no rational philosophy to guide their analysis of it, are likewise doomed.

[cropperb]

Very true. Edith Hamilton's point remains, though: the evidence of history is necessary. For example, Objectivtsts have a better philosophy and so will not make appeasement a policy, but Ayn Rand was able to reach her philisophical principles only by studying actual history, including many episodes of appeasement.

And besides, I think Edith Hamilton was a Christian theist...

[mikecampochiaro]

Just read the Bible

[snuffydoug]

I am a Teenager.

[cropperb]

I recommend "A Hist of the AM People" by Paul Johnson. And I thought you were older. You are certainly smart, if I may publicly flatter you.

[snuffydoug]

Thank you very much. That coming from bright person like you really means a lot to me. May I also thank you for introducing me to Objectivism.

[parispeter2]

Adult education is essential, especially as so many adults are badly educated. And you're right, history is central. Greek history is indeed very rich - do you know that Gen. Marshall based his strategy on Thucydides? But I would say that 20th century history is also important in understanding modern totalitarianism. Your approach is a little Americano-centric otherwise.

[cropperb]

I'm almost an expert on Soviet Russian history I've studied it so much. So I agree its important, but starting with the good periods of history instead of the horrible offers more immidiate knowledge to show for time put in.

[snuffydoug]

What American history books would you recommend?

[DebateTeam]

Paul Johnson's "A History of the American People" is absolutely excellant. He is an old British guy who taight at Oxford for decades, and in the 1990's he wrote the above named book. So he's more traditional and not so full of Marxist crap the way so many recent authors of history are.

[snuffydoug]

Marxist crap... So I am assuming you are no fan of Howard Zinn's "A Peoples History of the United States" Now that book is garbage.

[MVolco]

Why do you believe the XIXc was better and less horrible than the XXc?

XXC: commercial planes, affordable cars, the economically freest countries in history (Hong Kong, Singapore), genetics (watson and crick not mendel!), electric regrigeration, the space conquest (satellites and cellphones defeating govmnt. centralization)

[MVolco]

The XXc a bunch of crap? the only good thing of former periods is that you weren´t there to witness how horrible they were.

This almoast luddite idealization of classical periods have a lot in common with the jihadist yearning for the caliphate and other socialist and mystic philosophies´ romanticist utopias you so much despise.

[cropperb]

I'm not yearning for the whooping cough epidemics of mid-1800's Chicago, or the yearly outbreaks of Cholera in Philidelphia and London. I'm nostalgic for the 1800's which produced 100 years of growth and peace, the freeing of the slaves, and the invention of the plane, train and automobile. In the 1900's we've just tinkered with and improved the stuff they gave us.

[snuffydoug]

The 19th century is undoubtedly my favorite century as well.

[MVolco]

I know what you mean, still:

Artificial Intelligence.

I'm not into the singularitarian fad but I do believe that the technological growth factor is central for enabling objectivism as an urgent necessity. I should do a video about it.

[cropperb]

Do a video, because I didn't follow that.

[MVolco]

i'm on my way, at least of writing an essay.

meanwhile, have you read

¨the age on spiritual machines¨ by Ray Kurzweil?