After the 40days in the desert, Jesus Christ went out of his way to find 12 that would be his Apostels! But, in the mormon church, it is alleged he settled for one guy. Jesus Christ promised the 12 that satan would not prevail against his Church which includes Heaven and Earth, so, apostacy never happened. If the Church was apostate when you say it was, then the Holy Bible is an apostacy and you must reject it because only bad fruit can come from a bad tree.The mormon church is groundless.
It is hard to believe that any black person would have enough self-loathing to be a Mormon. For all we know Jesus may have been black himself! Wouldn't that freak the racist Mormon church----to find out that God himself is black!
Blimey, I did n't know that Mormonism had a backround of racism. I stated the obvious to a pair of their 'Bible Bashers' about J.C.(if he existed?) and they got terribly upset."You have offended me Sir." One stated. I wish I had known about this then...I would have offended them even more...:-)
@TheWorld Many are gonna be surprised when the messiah returns with a black face, you all who bash his children are awaiting judgement, peace & praise to thy only Elohim Yaweh & his Only begotten son Yashua and all praises go to his virgin mother (( The Black Madonna ))
@sgtortiz641 Well Shalom, and since you wanna get on a racial level, then lets talk about white people how they have stolen,bombed, & created world disasters for many civilizations, but im not even gonna stoop to your level, because the only blacks i see kill one another for nikes are in Europe & America, My people are Lost Sheep & dont know which way to turn, but instead of you making good remarks you bash them?? why is that dont you have no heart? shalom & praise to My Black Messiah Yashua
they cant back outta this one.if Mormonism was born from this mentality,then i cannot give credit to the rest of it.Jesus gave us 2 important commandments in which all others hang on.
All that laugh must take this seriously, time is running out, you all have been warned, black people are the chosen people of god and thats a fact, its up to you rather your gonna except the messiah for what he really is, Truth has been spoken peace & shalom, and for you edomites i suggest you forget what you was taught and ask for guidance becuz judgement is being prepared for all that worship this blue eyed pagon god
Black People are actually the Children of God, and are the true jews/hebrews that the bible writes about, It is a big sin to change the image of god and make his sheep a lost people, you all have been warned, Just like they cruisified and hated the black messiah yashua, prophecy states that they would hate his children as well, shalom & peace to all
@KingOfAfrica2012 I can see that as " Your people" kill each other for an ugly pair of Nikes. Black people have been a disappointment to all since the civil rights act of 1964. No progress, No motivation, No true contribution to society but sports and entertainment. Even the first black president is proving to fail and disapoint many blacks that VOTED FOR HIM! Your prez doesnt even care about you. Blacks are tolerated, Never welcome around the world. I have seen it in other countries.
@AntonTheSpot cause behind the minds of a Mormon having a big cock is an evil thing (cause they don't have it) they are traumatized by blackness makes me think "hey maybe the devil ain't so bad"
WHY IS IT ALL MORMONS ARE WHITES?ITS A CULT:BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS!!! "The Mormon Bible" IS LIKE SCIENTOLOGY ALL OF THEM ''THINK THE ARE HOLIER THAN THOU!!
If you study the origins if Christianity, as a whole, it evolved from Rome, NOT Jesus. Thus, the white depictions of jesus, christmas, going to church on Sunday, are all Roman influences on the teachings of Jesus. To truthfully follow Jesus, you would have had to accept the Old and New Testament (even that name is from the Romans) for Jesus never separated the bible into Old and New. God's word is eternal. There is no NEW.
The Mormon (LDS) church didn't accept black people fully until 1978. And it wasn't because they WANTED to, it's because the public and government PRESSURED them to. I am a (part) white man and my wife is black. Take a good guess at how my MORMON FAMILY MEMBERS treat us. According to their religion I should be murdered.
At this time, any worthy male may hold the priesthood in the LDS church. At the time the church denied Africans or those of African decent this privilege, many countries still had African slaves. If we had allowed Africans or those of African decent the priesthood, we would have been ridiculed and our church would not have survived.
So Blacks are inferior. Interesting. I'm White and friendly but have done nothing in particular. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was Black, helped change the world and died for it. Yet Blacks are inferior. Interesting. Seems like Joe Smith didn't look forward far enough.
Years ago the Jehovah's Witnesses had the Exact SAME views on Blacks. Reminds me of how Christians think they are "Better" then Muslim's. Yet the striking question would be, Would Jesus BOMB People? Would Christian's who appoint a President who LIES about WMDS and then DRONES & BOMBS 4.6 Million people to death be called a Christian too?
Or the War in Afghanistan, Joe Biden says the Taliban are NOT Enemies of the US, Yet for the last 10 Years been killing these same ones? Religion is a big JOKE.
Romney insiders say off the record that Mitt still uses the "N word" liberally in conversation when among friends in private. They say he becomes most vitriolic in his "n word" speech when he speaks of the inroads that African Americans have made in his church. He is privately very angry about the increasing opportunity and rights to achieve equality for black people. There are reports of an extant video from a family birthday party where Mitt uses the "n word" thirty-two times.
"And if any man mingle his seed with the seed of Cain (blacks according to the LDS) the only way he could get rid of it or have salvation would be to come forward and have his head cut off & spill his Blood upon the ground it would also take the life of his children..."(LDS MORMON PROPHET Wilford Woodruff's Journal, recording a speech by LDS MORMON PROPHET Brigham Young,January 16,1852
Salvation through murder in the mormon church can be attained...search your feelings you know its true!!!
Acording to Mormonism God was not always God but evolve from a person like you and me. I would say that is a Blasphemous teaching. There God had many gods before him. Infinite regression of the gods. The Mormon god was not Almighty God who created all things visible or invisible as the Bible makes clear. Also the teaching tha man may become gods is what I call blasphemous agaisnt the God of the Bible. How was Satan cast down? Why was Adam and Eve cast out?
There is nothing in the Bible where it states such hogwash! That is one of the reason why I do not like Mormonism. Jesus says to love thy neighbors and it does not give any exceptions what so ever. I love all people and I think all people should be treated equally.
Why is the O.T. one of the most disgusting books in history. If you are to judge God on what the Bible teaches. Then if you are a fair judge that is and not some hateful Atheist loon. You will judge that it was Man that has brought death and destruction to himself and this World.
You can change the hearts of men, Jesus fully believed in that. I am sure that the Lord in his infinite wisdom was simply protecting his Church from future strife. Let us not dwell on the past. The progression of the Kingdom of God is always one step at a time.
In slam, The first call to prayer in Public was made by Bilal AlHabashi (Ethiopian), Prophet Muhammad asked him to do that about 1400 years ago. And he is revered by all sects of Islam.
It's Sad to see people still prejudice against others based on Race!
@10290gilmore can you see the wind? Can you see gravity? Can you see radio waves? Seeing is believing? Come on... There many things you can't see with your eyes? Elementary science teaches you that. That's one of the weakest knocks on religion.
I just want to clarify, I am Mormon and the Mormon religion isn't racist. This dispute is ages old and it always is taken out of context. The scripture says that god made Canaan pay for his crime by giving him a dark skin (ridiculed by the people) and a curse that would make him unable to be in the presence of god. The ancestors of Canaan have the dark skin and created diversity amongst the men. However they did NOT have the curse. The black skin was ridiculed in the time of Canaan, but his an
There are black people in the Mormon church whose faith is so strong, that they believe, that was, the will of God at that time. My faith is not that sure about that one.
Black Mormons are an oxymoron, but so are Black Christians, in general. What people call Christianity today is a bastardization of the teachings of Jesus, mixed with pagan Roman influences. (christmas, days of the week, easter, sunday sabbath, etc). Europeans equated God to be white and His son, and used that "mythology" to justify their invasion and oppression of all other non-white countries. God has left mankind guidance that is independent of European teachings.
@AbuMubarak I remember this quote from a Muslim (though I'm no longer Muslim), the people in the Arabian peninsula back in the biblical days most likely look very Arabic. Jesus most likely looks more like Osama Bin Laden, rather than the current day deceptions of Jesus. Of course Muslims aren't any better, infact Muslims are worse than Christians. The point is people change the looks of their prophet's, and Gods to fite their image. The Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Sikh they all do it.
@AbuMubarak No my friend, the christianity you speak of is a branch called roman catholics. They are the ones who have adopted a mixture of paganism. However even though they maybe mixed they still retain the fundamental cornerstone of christianity and that is jesus is the son of God and that he died for mankind....The resurrection and his return in his glory is preached by ALL christian denominations.
I'm not sorry for anything you've said. My family are native Maoris from New Zealand. They are ALL non believers. Even two generations before me. So I've been searching for awhile. Catholicism, Jehovahs, and recently I joined the mormon church 6 years ago. But my heart is still unsettled, and the most disturbing thing about mormonism was finding out about a history of racism. So now, I'm on the road wandering again. THANK YOU for this clip... I hope I find family that will lead me him.. Pare
@ppau008 Don't feel too lost brother. There are many of us that honestly seek the truth. I applaud you for your courage to do so. Just know that god is truth and all these versions of god can actually lead you further from god.God is very personal and you don't need a family to have a relationship with him.He existed a lot longer than the book of mormon or the bible. Main thing is to look to god when you determine whats right and wrong and who you ought to be.You are on the right track.
Why do you need a religion? Can't you just be amazed and great full that life, against all odds evolved into what we see now? I think that's pretty damn amazing and worthy of humble respect.
Psalm 14 Foolish people say in their hearts, "There is no God." They do all kinds of horrible and evil things. No one does anything good. The Lord looks down from heaven on all people. He wants to see if there are any who understand. He wants to see if there are any who trust in God. All of them have turned away. They have all become evil. No one does anything good, no one at all.
@ppau008 Pare- Jesus said "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). It is only through your personal relationship with God through his only begotten son Jesus Christ that you will find rest and security. Then, join a church of true believers in Christ who truly follow the Word of God in the Bible and have fellowship with them and strengthen your faith. Message me if you ever need help. God bless all of you. We all need Christ.
@ppau008 No religion well get you into heaven, only God and the son of God well get you there. And any church that does not add, Distort or altar the Bible is a Church of Jesus Christ. The kingdom of God rest on your shoulders. Galatians Ch 1 Proves Mormons wrong and any other religion that claims prophets have received new scriptures from an angel.
During the NAZI regime , 50,000 Danish Catholics who openly protested the Holocaust and hid Jews, were sent also to the death camps. So Hitler blackmailed the Pope into silence, but the French Free Press disclosed that the Vatican continued to work secretly with the Brits and USA to undermine Hitler , which facts were revealed by the American OSS and the Jerusalem Post in August of 2010. Also, 5 million Polish Catholics were butchered by the NAZIS, so that Hitler was not a Catholic at all
Catholic Faith opposed Slavery and Racism. Of course Catholics were far from perfect, but they did not support any claim that darker skin color was the mark of Cain. What was the mark of Cain was Behavioral, it was the deeds of Cain, the frame of mind, the desire to murder ,rather than share glory with the better man. So skin color has absolutely nothing ever, to do with Cain or any curse. The Catholics opposed Slavery, and demonstrate no credibility to any occult beliefs in Racism
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By the the behavior of blacks today can you deny that what the mormon writings say are true? No. It may hurt your feelings but the fact remains, Blacks all over the world are Tolerated but never Welcomed. Not even in their own country Africa. Blacks add nothing to American culture but filth, Violence,Degradation of women and the glorafication of ignorance. I think that the scripture has it right, You just dont want to admit it. Blacks add nothing to society, They subtract from it.
@duke1861 - try leaving out the h..p at the beginning of the url, and if there's a hashnull at the end of the url, delete that too. Just a thought. Btw, thank you for your responses, although I have learnt many moons ago that it's impossible trying to appease a person who is intent on being contentious. I now limit myself to 4 posts, and it they don't see my point, I figure 100 more posts will make little difference. Again, thanks.
@awolLDSasap - bro/sis, this isn't a competition, which sounds pretty much like what it seems to mean to you from your comments. Live as Jesus Christ taught you and all of us - Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-31 and all will be well with you.
@krysaliyah This is not a competition. Truth has one side. Some religions claim that acting like Jesus is righteousness. This couldn't be farther from the truth. Faith "in Christ" as the mighty God is righteousness. He alone is the way, truth and life.
@awolLDSasap Ok check this out. I feel religion is wrong for lots of reasons i wont go into but i do believe in spirituality. the belief in a higher power. no not satan like some ppl will quickly assume i mean. but just god. it use to be christian said put no one above or equal to god and to love "jesus" and pray THROUGH "jesus" now its become "jesus" is god and pray to him. instead of praise god thank you jesus now its praise jesus".
@Karosive How odd that african slaves could relate to the struggle of the Jewish people whom were enslaved in egypt. If you wanted to indoctorinate slaves, the last thing you would do is give them a bible. Hope for slaves to build a new nation. To rise up against their oppressors, to be protected by a savior. No! Christianity was not used to oppress slaves. It was their source of strength. And through Abolitionsit, an inspiration towards freedom. Get a clue and learn history.
FYI check on the AP from Dr. Zahi Hawass...it has been confirmed beyound a shadow of a dout that the jews you speack of were NEVER enslaved in Egypt, Never. People and religious scholars as well as historians and rabbis have made it perfectly chear on this issue time after time. Due to our controlled media in the USA this religious propoganda is circulated in our churches and history books. Misinformation is just as deadly as any diesease.
@Prodma000 He's an interesting character and his theories seem on the surface to disprove any Hebrew claim to Egyptian land. Please read his critics as well. He keeps a tight reign of control over access to the Pyramids and it is well known that archealogist whom question him & his findings are quickly escorted out of Egypt. He has been fired for corruption. Including tampering with evidence and falsifying documentation that contradicts his claims. The verdict is still out it seems.
@Here2ownU I agree with you totally. They have now stated what many black scholars and historians i.e. Cheich Anta Diop as well as we have already known....Cleopatra was of African decent. They did a bone analysis of her sister's bones and confirmed this. Some of the people involved in the "discovery" have even stated of having someone such as Hallie Berry as a person who could play the part if a re-make of the movie Cleopatra would ever take place.
@Prodma000 My problem with "religion" as it it now is the fact that people of African decent are imposed upon to believe in a foreigner's representation and interpretation of God. The mere fact that we all know that the people throughout the old and new testament were of us. In essence, the bible represents the story of "US". In America, it is especially damning, a nation born out of violence, represents itself as the savior of the world and we just need to "trust" and "believe" him.
@Prodma000 On the surface that sound all inspiring and uplifting, right? However we Africans here in American know very well how this bible was used as a weapon , a weapon that was wielded to enslave African peoples mentally,spiritually and emotionally. I didn't understand the significance of that until I studied art and world history. As an artist I naturally am inspired by all cultures and their arts. But as I began to discover there were many unexplained "anomalies" along the way.
@Prodma000 Just take the history of Egypt. Dr Hawass has even stated as well as some from UK that the modern day Egyptian are indeed the original people represented in that region. However if you look at history and the bible it tells the complete opposite. Over time I learned the power of representation of oneself. When you conquer a people it is imperative that you make certain that they will never "rise" against you. To transform a conquered people's god to the conqueror's image ..
@Prodma000 in itself makes them god-like and put the conquered in a subservient position. In other words, we as blacks in America with all that we know to some extent still in vision a Euro version of god without acknowledging our own first. At the same time we are being tormented and persecuted,disrespected,exploited,hated by the same system and culture that has us in this condition in the first place. But yet when we see a picture of Jesus or when we call his name...we call on
@Prodma000 "their" god to save "us" from "them"! Whoa! Once I was able to analysis this I clearly can see why slavery lasted so long and the pathology of white supremacy. Harriet Tubman once said she could have saved so many more slaves if only they had knew they were slaves! This is truly psychological warfare at its finest. I just hope that we began to broaden are minds and to began questioning thing that many of us are told to believe just cause. What separates me from the average
@Prodma000 person is that I believe in "spirituality" rather than "organized religion". I think we as people of African decent here and abroad need to be particular about Western religious systems and question their beliefs and motives. For if they can't even represent us honestly and truly throughout the bible how can you trust how they represent themselves?
@Prodma000 We have much in common. I was offered a scholarship for art to University of Illinois but turned it down for a wrestling scholarship to CMU where I studied History. The bible was "misused" by many. And that I call ignorance. But to place the blame at the feet of the bible is to misdirect where the fault lies. Please be more specific to your beef with the bible. You are only speaking against it in "concept" and not in detail. Being vague won't help me respond.
@Prodma000 Don't be too crititcal of our violent history. All nations are born of violence. But the depth to which we carried our nations extention did have a price for us to pay. That being the civil war. Blacks have fought valiantly to gain their freedoms and their history is great. I wrote my disertation on the black soldiers of WWI. It is a valid point that we have "white-ified" history. It is more likely Jesus had olive colored skin. No matter though, he is my savior.
@Prodma000 It would not surprise me at all that Cleopatra was of African decent. Africa has been ruled by many a great empires that are overlooked in our teachings of history. Africa had great trade routes and many alliances that ranged from the tip of the south into the middle east. If Cleopatra looked anything like Hallie Berry, then I'm fine with that.
It was Mitt Romney's campaign that paid those women to come out of the woodwork against Herman CAIN, the lone black republican presidential candidate. Cain believed the culprit was Rick Perry, but it was Romney's campaign all along. You see, Mitt knew that Herman and his ilk were cursed by God long ago, because Herman is a descendant of Cain, you know, the one who killed his brother Abel, you know, Adam and Eve's sons.
"for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them." LOL
I am a former Mormon missionary, and apologist (defender of the Church against anti-Mormon attacks). I wrote a book defending the Church ("The Gainsayers"). The evidence is against the Church being true. I am now a Daheshist, a follower of Dr. Dahesh (1912-1984), the miracle-working prophet of Lebanon. He raised the dead, healed the sick, turned water into wine, walked on water, etc. For further info on Doctor Dahesh and His Teachings email me: darrick_evenson AT yahoo DOT com
Blacks are now allowed to hold the Priesthood. But Romeny should never be President if you want life on Earth to continue. General public is not allowed to go into the Temple. Anyone can go into the churches.
Ha ha ha, just remember, if you're a mormon you're already an Atheist with respect to every other one of the hundreds of thousands of other religions. I just believe in one less god than you!
There are black Baptists in this country even within the southern Baptist association. The Baptists used to teach that blacks were subhuman. Therefore, this line of reasoning should hold little sway to a black person who is considering Mormonism as a part of their faith journey.
I read through all comments and come to conclusion;that all black people should be ashame using the bible to buttress their points,and if you a white man challenge them to tell just briefly of their ancestors beliefs and you will baffle how mute they will remain.
While we’re on the subject, how can any self-respecting African-American follow the Bible? After suffering under slavery and segregation in the U.S., why on earth would they worship a god that not only condones it but commands it?
@SubconsciousGatherer In the Bible salvery was basically a social status. People would sell themselves into slavery so they can pay off debts. If you read Col. 4:1, Eph. 6:9, and Deut.15:12–15, it tells how to treat slaves (which were more like indentured servants). Also, some slaves back then were also prisoners of war. Lastly, the ind of servitude mentioned in the Bible wasn't based on race like how it was for Blacks in America (it was also much less imperialistic).
@Yohko86 Someone has been lying to you. Does the following sound like a scenario that someone would sell themselves into? "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)"
@SubconsciousGatherer Exodus 21 basically describes casuistic laws of the Israelite culture and when the wicked got ahold of Moses' Law, they twisted it to the point that when Jesus came he called it "your law" when he talked to certain Jews, like the Pharisees (John 8:17 painting a marked difference what God wanted for man to do and what was in man's heart). So in short, Exo. 21:20-21 describes how the Israelites did things all how everything they did didn't reflect God.
@Yohko86 It's interesting to note that Jesus COULD have come along and taught against slavery, yet slavery still exists in the NT. Not only that, but Christ's name is attached to it. "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)"
@SubconsciousGatherer In this context, the original Greek word used was "doulos", a bondservant, and a bondservant serves because it was he or she's job, not by force (btw, "fear" means be very careful not to offend their masters). The reason why in the KJV Bible is translated as slave is because the European authors that translated the Bible owned chattel slaves and thus, considered slaves/bondsmen/etc. to be all one thing.
@Yohko86 I'm still waiting to hear how you justify selling and beating people. I don't care what term you use (slave, bondservant, servant); are you actually justifying the beating and selling of people? Why would you worship a god who oversees such a system?
@SubconsciousGatherer I already answered that partially and my answer was that God didn't directly say or even indirectly imply that beating anyone for any reason was okay. Laws concerning that was simply adopted into Israelite culture. Why they would do that despite the fact that God didn't want it that way I don't know, but it wouldn't be the first time the Isrealites went against God's teachings.
@SubconsciousGatherer Also, I mention before that the selling that went on as shown in the Bible is NOT how we know to be it today (plus, there were several different forms of slaves). Unlike, we blacks that had NO choice on how how we were treated, they had many. As a matter of fact, they themselves asked to be of service of a master, they weren't forced. And they had many laws protecting their well-being and livelihood.
@SubconsciousGatherer I forgot to say this before but Prophet Amos warned Gaza and Tyre for their involvement of slave-trading whole populations (Amos 1:6-9) and the Book of Revelation says that disaster awaits those who sell slaves (Rev. 18:13).
@SubconsciousGatherer Also, the Bible condemns kidnapping people for slavery (Exo. 21:16) and puts slave-traders/masters in the same league as murderers, perverts, liars, etc and are referred to being ungodly (1 Tim. 1:8-10)
@SubconsciousGatherer Exo. 21:7-11 describes when a man sold his daughter as a servant, he allowed her entrance into a marriage covenant in which she approved, too (acting as a servant bride [non-sexually]). As a matter of fact, she was treated as a daughter within the family. Lastly, the passage tells of laws protect the female. And even if the male master ends up not wanting her, he is by law to redeem her and let her go on her way unharmed.
@Yohko86 My mistake. I missed the part about it being good when "a man (sells) his daughter as a servant." I was under the impression that it's bad to sell one human to another, but you've corrected me on that.
@SubconsciousGatherer The reason why it was translated as "selling" because some form of payment was given to the father (not always monetary). You missed the part when I said that women servants were considered daughters to masters (or sons if male), plus they would get to live under the same roof as their masters, get paid regularly, have their families stay with them, etc. Lastly, it was illegal under Isrealite law to have sex with servants unless marriage was involved.
@Yohko86 I don't care if it was money, cattle, or a basket of fruit. Payment is payment and selling is selling. You seem like a nice enough person, and I appreciate your civility in this exchange, but it baffles the mind how much bending over believers have to do in order to make their holy book look OK. I believe the reason there are so many apologists for Christianity is due to the fact that reading the Bible on its own will disturb even the most casual reader.
@SubconsciousGatherer I'm not trying to make the Bible "look OK", I'm simply answering your question to the best of my ability. I understand that issues like slavery is hard to accept (and answer). I knew a long time ago that everything wasn't pleasant in the Bible (no culture's history is clean) and if only the good parts were left in, I'd be suspicious myself. But instead of blaming God, I took it upon myself to get more understanding (once I became a believer that is).
Negroes are free today,how many or which one personally go home....talk about 50cent,jz,lil wann,dre and even busta ryme. they sit there well relax making money and fame...brother u got no point leave the mormons alone,now dig this in our culture in africa a stranger cant lead in our shrine....u claim ur forefathers dont know God now u are scared of the mormons doing their thing,common get wit....are u even a rasta if u are not please cut that dread...for rasta has other vital ital matter.
This is simply info from the illuminotees and the so called masons and the religious KKK whom believe thier lord and or god is white and he hates blacks, look around the world, we are oppressed under thier systems... not our own, and when you see a African or so called African Nation oppressing their own people they are connected under the NWO to eliminate such people ... for money and promise of power and life full of wealth .. lies... its the end...
Aren't we All Cursed??? We all are meant to Sin!! So in A way they are right.. Hey At least Mormon's Don't Teach to Hate like other's Do and so do Other Religions and that is Sad !!!!
Just like being an African American christian makes sense. The christian religion was used to enslave the black race, yet, black people, the descendants of slaves, embrace it. Find "the Lord" in that!
I love how Mormons use Black people in their Ad's. Anyone can see right through this. Racism is at the very heart of The Book Of Mormon, and no matter how you look at it the church's view of race is completely indefensible. Seriously, can a dumber religion exist?
some mormons came by and left that book here, i use it to roll with when i'm out of papers
A1980AD 1 day ago
@A1980AD, LMAO too funny!... Hey, do you have any pages left?? I need to wipe my ass! lol
TrulyTMelodee 23 hours ago
Why do the minorty sit in the back of LDS church.
Nicoloe100 1 day ago
Stick to official Mormon Doctorines, and not Mormon speculations when going on with your bashings.
SCNewbCaster 1 day ago
I think the revelation was that people would quit coming to their church unless they said that God magically remove the curse.
I don't see how a woman could be involved in this church, either.
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After the 40days in the desert, Jesus Christ went out of his way to find 12 that would be his Apostels! But, in the mormon church, it is alleged he settled for one guy. Jesus Christ promised the 12 that satan would not prevail against his Church which includes Heaven and Earth, so, apostacy never happened. If the Church was apostate when you say it was, then the Holy Bible is an apostacy and you must reject it because only bad fruit can come from a bad tree.The mormon church is groundless.
fljrox 2 days ago
Mormon bullshit makes the flowers grow!
chabadorthodoxchurch 3 days ago
It is hard to believe that any black person would have enough self-loathing to be a Mormon. For all we know Jesus may have been black himself! Wouldn't that freak the racist Mormon church----to find out that God himself is black!
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Blimey, I did n't know that Mormonism had a backround of racism. I stated the obvious to a pair of their 'Bible Bashers' about J.C.(if he existed?) and they got terribly upset."You have offended me Sir." One stated. I wish I had known about this then...I would have offended them even more...:-)
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@TheWorld Many are gonna be surprised when the messiah returns with a black face, you all who bash his children are awaiting judgement, peace & praise to thy only Elohim Yaweh & his Only begotten son Yashua and all praises go to his virgin mother (( The Black Madonna ))
KingOfAfrica2012 5 days ago
@sgtortiz641 Well Shalom, and since you wanna get on a racial level, then lets talk about white people how they have stolen,bombed, & created world disasters for many civilizations, but im not even gonna stoop to your level, because the only blacks i see kill one another for nikes are in Europe & America, My people are Lost Sheep & dont know which way to turn, but instead of you making good remarks you bash them?? why is that dont you have no heart? shalom & praise to My Black Messiah Yashua
KingOfAfrica2012 6 days ago
they cant back outta this one.if Mormonism was born from this mentality,then i cannot give credit to the rest of it.Jesus gave us 2 important commandments in which all others hang on.
yaryar1976 6 days ago
All that laugh must take this seriously, time is running out, you all have been warned, black people are the chosen people of god and thats a fact, its up to you rather your gonna except the messiah for what he really is, Truth has been spoken peace & shalom, and for you edomites i suggest you forget what you was taught and ask for guidance becuz judgement is being prepared for all that worship this blue eyed pagon god
KingOfAfrica2012 6 days ago
Black People are actually the Children of God, and are the true jews/hebrews that the bible writes about, It is a big sin to change the image of god and make his sheep a lost people, you all have been warned, Just like they cruisified and hated the black messiah yashua, prophecy states that they would hate his children as well, shalom & peace to all
KingOfAfrica2012 1 week ago
@KingOfAfrica2012 I can see that as " Your people" kill each other for an ugly pair of Nikes. Black people have been a disappointment to all since the civil rights act of 1964. No progress, No motivation, No true contribution to society but sports and entertainment. Even the first black president is proving to fail and disapoint many blacks that VOTED FOR HIM! Your prez doesnt even care about you. Blacks are tolerated, Never welcome around the world. I have seen it in other countries.
sgtortiz641 6 days ago
hey bro in mormon world ur gonna be a slave after death
chikifree 1 week ago
bullshit
Lion21Black 1 week ago
I have no promble with blacks going in the priesthhood. Yes I am a LDS person
dianemerq 1 week ago
@AbuMubarak Learn truth,the 1st Christians were Africans.
Nubias 1 week ago
Don't Worry Big Bro
The Real Lord Almighty Is About 2 Handle Them
Real Soon
Keep Up The GOOD WORK
TheKeysToPowercom 1 week ago
a message for black mormons:
hate yourself as much as you possibly can.
schmui 2 weeks ago
@schmui No. Get out of the LDS as FAST AS YOU CAN!! MORMONISM = RACIST CULT.
MegaGolgo13 1 week ago
@MegaGolgo13 duh!
schmui 1 week ago
@MegaGolgo13 Your post = Bigotry
omsdave 1 week ago
And i don't get it. If blacks were not valiant in the war between lucifer and christ, how on EARTH do they have a monster penis?
nybombs 2 weeks ago
@nybombs exactly
AntonTheSpot 2 weeks ago
@AntonTheSpot cause behind the minds of a Mormon having a big cock is an evil thing (cause they don't have it) they are traumatized by blackness makes me think "hey maybe the devil ain't so bad"
Nomorehataz 2 weeks ago
@Nomorehataz lol
AntonTheSpot 2 weeks ago
Black mormon? Its like saying Gay Jew lol
nybombs 2 weeks ago
@nybombs plenty of gay jews...
griptapesequel 2 weeks ago
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WHY IS IT ALL MORMONS ARE WHITES?ITS A CULT:BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS!!! "The Mormon Bible" IS LIKE SCIENTOLOGY ALL OF THEM ''THINK THE ARE HOLIER THAN THOU!!
nokiwe7 3 weeks ago
If you study the origins if Christianity, as a whole, it evolved from Rome, NOT Jesus. Thus, the white depictions of jesus, christmas, going to church on Sunday, are all Roman influences on the teachings of Jesus. To truthfully follow Jesus, you would have had to accept the Old and New Testament (even that name is from the Romans) for Jesus never separated the bible into Old and New. God's word is eternal. There is no NEW.
AbuMubarak 3 weeks ago
The Mormon (LDS) church didn't accept black people fully until 1978. And it wasn't because they WANTED to, it's because the public and government PRESSURED them to. I am a (part) white man and my wife is black. Take a good guess at how my MORMON FAMILY MEMBERS treat us. According to their religion I should be murdered.
Makell 3 weeks ago
At this time, any worthy male may hold the priesthood in the LDS church. At the time the church denied Africans or those of African decent this privilege, many countries still had African slaves. If we had allowed Africans or those of African decent the priesthood, we would have been ridiculed and our church would not have survived.
rockonthebomb 3 weeks ago
So Blacks are inferior. Interesting. I'm White and friendly but have done nothing in particular. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was Black, helped change the world and died for it. Yet Blacks are inferior. Interesting. Seems like Joe Smith didn't look forward far enough.
davidholman48 3 weeks ago
A message to Black Mormons: you're stupid and black...good luck!
hardxxcorey 3 weeks ago
Years ago the Jehovah's Witnesses had the Exact SAME views on Blacks. Reminds me of how Christians think they are "Better" then Muslim's. Yet the striking question would be, Would Jesus BOMB People? Would Christian's who appoint a President who LIES about WMDS and then DRONES & BOMBS 4.6 Million people to death be called a Christian too?
Or the War in Afghanistan, Joe Biden says the Taliban are NOT Enemies of the US, Yet for the last 10 Years been killing these same ones? Religion is a big JOKE.
MountainMontanaMan 3 weeks ago
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Romney insiders say off the record that Mitt still uses the "N word" liberally in conversation when among friends in private. They say he becomes most vitriolic in his "n word" speech when he speaks of the inroads that African Americans have made in his church. He is privately very angry about the increasing opportunity and rights to achieve equality for black people. There are reports of an extant video from a family birthday party where Mitt uses the "n word" thirty-two times.
YouTubilify 3 weeks ago
"And if any man mingle his seed with the seed of Cain (blacks according to the LDS) the only way he could get rid of it or have salvation would be to come forward and have his head cut off & spill his Blood upon the ground it would also take the life of his children..."(LDS MORMON PROPHET Wilford Woodruff's Journal, recording a speech by LDS MORMON PROPHET Brigham Young,January 16,1852
Salvation through murder in the mormon church can be attained...search your feelings you know its true!!!
ssuperbill2 3 weeks ago
Acording to Mormonism God was not always God but evolve from a person like you and me. I would say that is a Blasphemous teaching. There God had many gods before him. Infinite regression of the gods. The Mormon god was not Almighty God who created all things visible or invisible as the Bible makes clear. Also the teaching tha man may become gods is what I call blasphemous agaisnt the God of the Bible. How was Satan cast down? Why was Adam and Eve cast out?
NoneBeforeNoneAfter 3 weeks ago
There is nothing in the Bible where it states such hogwash! That is one of the reason why I do not like Mormonism. Jesus says to love thy neighbors and it does not give any exceptions what so ever. I love all people and I think all people should be treated equally.
aorphia 3 weeks ago
@aorphia you obviously have not read the old testament, its one of the most disgusting books in human history.
isuckreallyreallybad 3 weeks ago
@isuckreallyreallybad
Why is the O.T. one of the most disgusting books in history. If you are to judge God on what the Bible teaches. Then if you are a fair judge that is and not some hateful Atheist loon. You will judge that it was Man that has brought death and destruction to himself and this World.
ImagesByDavid 3 weeks ago
You can change the hearts of men, Jesus fully believed in that. I am sure that the Lord in his infinite wisdom was simply protecting his Church from future strife. Let us not dwell on the past. The progression of the Kingdom of God is always one step at a time.
BROOKNAM2012 4 weeks ago
Saying that Mitt Romney is not a racist is like saying that not all KKK members are racists.
BiggerFatterBlog 4 weeks ago
We have NEVER lived on the moon....
Stratmanable 4 weeks ago
Religion in general is stupid. . . imo
mlucyk 4 weeks ago
Mormons also believe that Quakers used to live on the Moon.
Obama denounced his church leader but Romney hasn't.
BiggerFatterBlog 4 weeks ago
89 White Mormons found the dislike button.
exmo74 4 weeks ago
In slam, The first call to prayer in Public was made by Bilal AlHabashi (Ethiopian), Prophet Muhammad asked him to do that about 1400 years ago. And he is revered by all sects of Islam.
It's Sad to see people still prejudice against others based on Race!
privatecomment 4 weeks ago
The first black serving in the roman catholic priesthood did not occur until the American Civil war.
Philip02K 1 month ago
@10290gilmore can you see the wind? Can you see gravity? Can you see radio waves? Seeing is believing? Come on... There many things you can't see with your eyes? Elementary science teaches you that. That's one of the weakest knocks on religion.
iKaraamba 1 month ago
They are a cult like scientology! People do your research. Wake up!
Way2Kool7Deuce 1 month ago
if you black and mormon you are a fake black man
MrMixculture 1 month ago
I just want to clarify, I am Mormon and the Mormon religion isn't racist. This dispute is ages old and it always is taken out of context. The scripture says that god made Canaan pay for his crime by giving him a dark skin (ridiculed by the people) and a curse that would make him unable to be in the presence of god. The ancestors of Canaan have the dark skin and created diversity amongst the men. However they did NOT have the curse. The black skin was ridiculed in the time of Canaan, but his an
JakeBonculio 1 month ago
@JakeBonculio so your church didn't allow blacks into priesthood till 1978 because they were a open and accepting church? Gotcha!
TheBravoFour 3 weeks ago
To answer the mans question if two white man jumps off a highrise you must let a black jump too or you are a racest
olgrunt1 1 month ago
look in a mirror you ugly fool
olgrunt1 1 month ago
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birthnight 1 month ago
Religious people are delusional...poor people. I worship the moon !!..at least I can see it.
10290gilmore 1 month ago
There are black people in the Mormon church whose faith is so strong, that they believe, that was, the will of God at that time. My faith is not that sure about that one.
Lorneisoptimistic 1 month ago
lol this is so crazy. These wierd anti christ people. May Amen, shine his Ra lol.
777SiriusBlack 1 month ago
@777SiriusBlack ....mormons are christians...
Heruagarwaen 1 month ago
@Heruagarwaen So are christians mormon?
arccotangent 1 month ago
@Heruagarwaen BWAAHAAAA!
deboles 3 weeks ago
Nice Suit!
jjsiegal1 1 month ago
@jjsiegal1 Nice stache!
arccotangent 1 month ago
Black Mormons are an oxymoron, but so are Black Christians, in general. What people call Christianity today is a bastardization of the teachings of Jesus, mixed with pagan Roman influences. (christmas, days of the week, easter, sunday sabbath, etc). Europeans equated God to be white and His son, and used that "mythology" to justify their invasion and oppression of all other non-white countries. God has left mankind guidance that is independent of European teachings.
AbuMubarak 1 month ago 18
@AbuMubarak the book of isaiah says being white is a curse brah
dannybiotch 1 month ago
@AbuMubarak I remember this quote from a Muslim (though I'm no longer Muslim), the people in the Arabian peninsula back in the biblical days most likely look very Arabic. Jesus most likely looks more like Osama Bin Laden, rather than the current day deceptions of Jesus. Of course Muslims aren't any better, infact Muslims are worse than Christians. The point is people change the looks of their prophet's, and Gods to fite their image. The Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Sikh they all do it.
Mythodiir 3 weeks ago
@AbuMubarak No my friend, the christianity you speak of is a branch called roman catholics. They are the ones who have adopted a mixture of paganism. However even though they maybe mixed they still retain the fundamental cornerstone of christianity and that is jesus is the son of God and that he died for mankind....The resurrection and his return in his glory is preached by ALL christian denominations.
bertelliish 3 weeks ago
@AbuMubarak very true
AntonTheSpot 2 weeks ago
@AbuMubarak you mean oxymormon? :D
schmui 2 weeks ago
@AbuMubarak You should probably read The Bible before you act like you know what Jesus' teachings or Christianity is... lol
CAPutoob 1 week ago
I'm not sorry for anything you've said. My family are native Maoris from New Zealand. They are ALL non believers. Even two generations before me. So I've been searching for awhile. Catholicism, Jehovahs, and recently I joined the mormon church 6 years ago. But my heart is still unsettled, and the most disturbing thing about mormonism was finding out about a history of racism. So now, I'm on the road wandering again. THANK YOU for this clip... I hope I find family that will lead me him.. Pare
ppau008 1 month ago 4
@ppau008 Don't feel too lost brother. There are many of us that honestly seek the truth. I applaud you for your courage to do so. Just know that god is truth and all these versions of god can actually lead you further from god.God is very personal and you don't need a family to have a relationship with him.He existed a lot longer than the book of mormon or the bible. Main thing is to look to god when you determine whats right and wrong and who you ought to be.You are on the right track.
arccotangent 1 month ago
@ppau008
Why do you need a religion? Can't you just be amazed and great full that life, against all odds evolved into what we see now? I think that's pretty damn amazing and worthy of humble respect.
InternetWandering 3 weeks ago
@ppau008 There is no god.
Seekerofsins 3 weeks ago
@Seekerofsins
Psalm 14 Foolish people say in their hearts, "There is no God." They do all kinds of horrible and evil things. No one does anything good. The Lord looks down from heaven on all people. He wants to see if there are any who understand. He wants to see if there are any who trust in God. All of them have turned away. They have all become evil. No one does anything good, no one at all.
ImagesByDavid 3 weeks ago
@ppau008 Pare- Jesus said "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest." (Matthew 11:28). It is only through your personal relationship with God through his only begotten son Jesus Christ that you will find rest and security. Then, join a church of true believers in Christ who truly follow the Word of God in the Bible and have fellowship with them and strengthen your faith. Message me if you ever need help. God bless all of you. We all need Christ.
mbell317 3 weeks ago
@ppau008 Islam is the only choice...
griptapesequel 2 weeks ago
@griptapesequel .......of terrorists
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shieldsff 2 weeks ago
@ppau008 God exists. But too much "mythology" from man has skewed our understanding. But you are CORRECT. Mormonism is a racist cult.
MegaGolgo13 1 week ago
@ppau008 No religion well get you into heaven, only God and the son of God well get you there. And any church that does not add, Distort or altar the Bible is a Church of Jesus Christ. The kingdom of God rest on your shoulders. Galatians Ch 1 Proves Mormons wrong and any other religion that claims prophets have received new scriptures from an angel.
ST4leave 1 week ago
During the NAZI regime , 50,000 Danish Catholics who openly protested the Holocaust and hid Jews, were sent also to the death camps. So Hitler blackmailed the Pope into silence, but the French Free Press disclosed that the Vatican continued to work secretly with the Brits and USA to undermine Hitler , which facts were revealed by the American OSS and the Jerusalem Post in August of 2010. Also, 5 million Polish Catholics were butchered by the NAZIS, so that Hitler was not a Catholic at all
CarmineFragione 1 month ago
Catholic Faith opposed Slavery and Racism. Of course Catholics were far from perfect, but they did not support any claim that darker skin color was the mark of Cain. What was the mark of Cain was Behavioral, it was the deeds of Cain, the frame of mind, the desire to murder ,rather than share glory with the better man. So skin color has absolutely nothing ever, to do with Cain or any curse. The Catholics opposed Slavery, and demonstrate no credibility to any occult beliefs in Racism
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soxchic23 1 month ago
Thats so right
max10wonderboy 1 month ago
By the the behavior of blacks today can you deny that what the mormon writings say are true? No. It may hurt your feelings but the fact remains, Blacks all over the world are Tolerated but never Welcomed. Not even in their own country Africa. Blacks add nothing to American culture but filth, Violence,Degradation of women and the glorafication of ignorance. I think that the scripture has it right, You just dont want to admit it. Blacks add nothing to society, They subtract from it.
sgtortiz641 1 month ago
@sgtortiz641 I pray God forgives you, evil SOB! And I'm white!
ayeleeexbee 1 month ago
@sgtortiz641 - oh boy, where on earth did this lowlife come from? Go back in your hole, trash!
krysaliyah 1 month ago
@sgtortiz641 So what are you going to do about this "black problem"? Do you have any suggestions?
goodgirlkay 1 week ago
@goodgirlkay yes one....have you heard of hitler? he is the answer (just kidding we like to have fun here)
TheRightjustice 6 days ago
@duke1861 - try leaving out the h..p at the beginning of the url, and if there's a hashnull at the end of the url, delete that too. Just a thought. Btw, thank you for your responses, although I have learnt many moons ago that it's impossible trying to appease a person who is intent on being contentious. I now limit myself to 4 posts, and it they don't see my point, I figure 100 more posts will make little difference. Again, thanks.
krysaliyah 1 month ago
@awolLDSasap - bro/sis, this isn't a competition, which sounds pretty much like what it seems to mean to you from your comments. Live as Jesus Christ taught you and all of us - Matthew 5:44; Luke 6:27-31 and all will be well with you.
krysaliyah 1 month ago
@krysaliyah This is not a competition. Truth has one side. Some religions claim that acting like Jesus is righteousness. This couldn't be farther from the truth. Faith "in Christ" as the mighty God is righteousness. He alone is the way, truth and life.
awolLDSasap 1 month ago
@awolLDSasap Ok check this out. I feel religion is wrong for lots of reasons i wont go into but i do believe in spirituality. the belief in a higher power. no not satan like some ppl will quickly assume i mean. but just god. it use to be christian said put no one above or equal to god and to love "jesus" and pray THROUGH "jesus" now its become "jesus" is god and pray to him. instead of praise god thank you jesus now its praise jesus".
JuggernautBeatz 1 month ago
This goes for black Christians too. Christ was indoctrinated on blacks during slavery when our cultures were stripped.
Karosive 1 month ago
@Karosive How odd that african slaves could relate to the struggle of the Jewish people whom were enslaved in egypt. If you wanted to indoctorinate slaves, the last thing you would do is give them a bible. Hope for slaves to build a new nation. To rise up against their oppressors, to be protected by a savior. No! Christianity was not used to oppress slaves. It was their source of strength. And through Abolitionsit, an inspiration towards freedom. Get a clue and learn history.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
@Here2ownU
FYI check on the AP from Dr. Zahi Hawass...it has been confirmed beyound a shadow of a dout that the jews you speack of were NEVER enslaved in Egypt, Never. People and religious scholars as well as historians and rabbis have made it perfectly chear on this issue time after time. Due to our controlled media in the USA this religious propoganda is circulated in our churches and history books. Misinformation is just as deadly as any diesease.
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 He's an interesting character and his theories seem on the surface to disprove any Hebrew claim to Egyptian land. Please read his critics as well. He keeps a tight reign of control over access to the Pyramids and it is well known that archealogist whom question him & his findings are quickly escorted out of Egypt. He has been fired for corruption. Including tampering with evidence and falsifying documentation that contradicts his claims. The verdict is still out it seems.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
@Here2ownU I agree with you totally. They have now stated what many black scholars and historians i.e. Cheich Anta Diop as well as we have already known....Cleopatra was of African decent. They did a bone analysis of her sister's bones and confirmed this. Some of the people involved in the "discovery" have even stated of having someone such as Hallie Berry as a person who could play the part if a re-make of the movie Cleopatra would ever take place.
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 My problem with "religion" as it it now is the fact that people of African decent are imposed upon to believe in a foreigner's representation and interpretation of God. The mere fact that we all know that the people throughout the old and new testament were of us. In essence, the bible represents the story of "US". In America, it is especially damning, a nation born out of violence, represents itself as the savior of the world and we just need to "trust" and "believe" him.
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 On the surface that sound all inspiring and uplifting, right? However we Africans here in American know very well how this bible was used as a weapon , a weapon that was wielded to enslave African peoples mentally,spiritually and emotionally. I didn't understand the significance of that until I studied art and world history. As an artist I naturally am inspired by all cultures and their arts. But as I began to discover there were many unexplained "anomalies" along the way.
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 Just take the history of Egypt. Dr Hawass has even stated as well as some from UK that the modern day Egyptian are indeed the original people represented in that region. However if you look at history and the bible it tells the complete opposite. Over time I learned the power of representation of oneself. When you conquer a people it is imperative that you make certain that they will never "rise" against you. To transform a conquered people's god to the conqueror's image ..
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 in itself makes them god-like and put the conquered in a subservient position. In other words, we as blacks in America with all that we know to some extent still in vision a Euro version of god without acknowledging our own first. At the same time we are being tormented and persecuted,disrespected,exploited,hated by the same system and culture that has us in this condition in the first place. But yet when we see a picture of Jesus or when we call his name...we call on
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 "their" god to save "us" from "them"! Whoa! Once I was able to analysis this I clearly can see why slavery lasted so long and the pathology of white supremacy. Harriet Tubman once said she could have saved so many more slaves if only they had knew they were slaves! This is truly psychological warfare at its finest. I just hope that we began to broaden are minds and to began questioning thing that many of us are told to believe just cause. What separates me from the average
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 person is that I believe in "spirituality" rather than "organized religion". I think we as people of African decent here and abroad need to be particular about Western religious systems and question their beliefs and motives. For if they can't even represent us honestly and truly throughout the bible how can you trust how they represent themselves?
Prodma000 1 month ago
@Prodma000 We have much in common. I was offered a scholarship for art to University of Illinois but turned it down for a wrestling scholarship to CMU where I studied History. The bible was "misused" by many. And that I call ignorance. But to place the blame at the feet of the bible is to misdirect where the fault lies. Please be more specific to your beef with the bible. You are only speaking against it in "concept" and not in detail. Being vague won't help me respond.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
@Prodma000 Don't be too crititcal of our violent history. All nations are born of violence. But the depth to which we carried our nations extention did have a price for us to pay. That being the civil war. Blacks have fought valiantly to gain their freedoms and their history is great. I wrote my disertation on the black soldiers of WWI. It is a valid point that we have "white-ified" history. It is more likely Jesus had olive colored skin. No matter though, he is my savior.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
@Prodma000 It would not surprise me at all that Cleopatra was of African decent. Africa has been ruled by many a great empires that are overlooked in our teachings of history. Africa had great trade routes and many alliances that ranged from the tip of the south into the middle east. If Cleopatra looked anything like Hallie Berry, then I'm fine with that.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
@Here2ownU Thanks for your response it's good to have a healthy and balance conversation. More ideas get spread that way!
Prodma000 1 month ago
The book of moron.
martyaus2905 1 month ago
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It was Mitt Romney's campaign that paid those women to come out of the woodwork against Herman CAIN, the lone black republican presidential candidate. Cain believed the culprit was Rick Perry, but it was Romney's campaign all along. You see, Mitt knew that Herman and his ilk were cursed by God long ago, because Herman is a descendant of Cain, you know, the one who killed his brother Abel, you know, Adam and Eve's sons.
"for the seed of Cain were black, and had not place among them." LOL
MrFaisel34 1 month ago
IT'S A CULT! MORMANISM IS A CULT!
chip571 1 month ago
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I am a former Mormon missionary, and apologist (defender of the Church against anti-Mormon attacks). I wrote a book defending the Church ("The Gainsayers"). The evidence is against the Church being true. I am now a Daheshist, a follower of Dr. Dahesh (1912-1984), the miracle-working prophet of Lebanon. He raised the dead, healed the sick, turned water into wine, walked on water, etc. For further info on Doctor Dahesh and His Teachings email me: darrick_evenson AT yahoo DOT com
mrdarrickevenson 1 month ago
Somebody need to phone Gladys Knight!
MrFaisel34 1 month ago
Blacks are now allowed to hold the Priesthood. But Romeny should never be President if you want life on Earth to continue. General public is not allowed to go into the Temple. Anyone can go into the churches.
utubinol 1 month ago
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Wtf...what kind of kool aid did Gladys Knight drink that made her want to be a Mormon??
briabria37 1 month ago
any church that say "god loves everyone" but are racist, are simply racist church leaders.
datafreak667 1 month ago
Sooo...
What are asians?
tachanka107 1 month ago
@tachanka107
Yellow.
mrhenryleopard 1 month ago
@tachanka107 Undecided.
Here2ownU 1 month ago
Ha ha ha, just remember, if you're a mormon you're already an Atheist with respect to every other one of the hundreds of thousands of other religions. I just believe in one less god than you!
bedheadish 1 month ago
this was a long time ago before the prophet received new revelation. now all worthy men may hold the priesthood.
SuperImsoboredman 1 month ago
There are black Baptists in this country even within the southern Baptist association. The Baptists used to teach that blacks were subhuman. Therefore, this line of reasoning should hold little sway to a black person who is considering Mormonism as a part of their faith journey.
heinz57V 1 month ago
How they are African American Mormon???????????
Because of the slave mentality doing what ever the white man tell them to do
Brake you slave mentality, listen to Bob Marley
I'm white
yoko59lee 2 months ago
I read through all comments and come to conclusion;that all black people should be ashame using the bible to buttress their points,and if you a white man challenge them to tell just briefly of their ancestors beliefs and you will baffle how mute they will remain.
osemoboable 2 months ago
It is like having a black man or women in the Klu Klux Klan
Mw1Am 2 months ago 31
While we’re on the subject, how can any self-respecting African-American follow the Bible? After suffering under slavery and segregation in the U.S., why on earth would they worship a god that not only condones it but commands it?
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer In the Bible salvery was basically a social status. People would sell themselves into slavery so they can pay off debts. If you read Col. 4:1, Eph. 6:9, and Deut.15:12–15, it tells how to treat slaves (which were more like indentured servants). Also, some slaves back then were also prisoners of war. Lastly, the ind of servitude mentioned in the Bible wasn't based on race like how it was for Blacks in America (it was also much less imperialistic).
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 Someone has been lying to you. Does the following sound like a scenario that someone would sell themselves into? "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)"
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer Exodus 21 basically describes casuistic laws of the Israelite culture and when the wicked got ahold of Moses' Law, they twisted it to the point that when Jesus came he called it "your law" when he talked to certain Jews, like the Pharisees (John 8:17 painting a marked difference what God wanted for man to do and what was in man's heart). So in short, Exo. 21:20-21 describes how the Israelites did things all how everything they did didn't reflect God.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 It's interesting to note that Jesus COULD have come along and taught against slavery, yet slavery still exists in the NT. Not only that, but Christ's name is attached to it. "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)"
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer In this context, the original Greek word used was "doulos", a bondservant, and a bondservant serves because it was he or she's job, not by force (btw, "fear" means be very careful not to offend their masters). The reason why in the KJV Bible is translated as slave is because the European authors that translated the Bible owned chattel slaves and thus, considered slaves/bondsmen/etc. to be all one thing.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 I'm still waiting to hear how you justify selling and beating people. I don't care what term you use (slave, bondservant, servant); are you actually justifying the beating and selling of people? Why would you worship a god who oversees such a system?
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer I already answered that partially and my answer was that God didn't directly say or even indirectly imply that beating anyone for any reason was okay. Laws concerning that was simply adopted into Israelite culture. Why they would do that despite the fact that God didn't want it that way I don't know, but it wouldn't be the first time the Isrealites went against God's teachings.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer Also, I mention before that the selling that went on as shown in the Bible is NOT how we know to be it today (plus, there were several different forms of slaves). Unlike, we blacks that had NO choice on how how we were treated, they had many. As a matter of fact, they themselves asked to be of service of a master, they weren't forced. And they had many laws protecting their well-being and livelihood.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer I forgot to say this before but Prophet Amos warned Gaza and Tyre for their involvement of slave-trading whole populations (Amos 1:6-9) and the Book of Revelation says that disaster awaits those who sell slaves (Rev. 18:13).
Yohko86 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer Also, the Bible condemns kidnapping people for slavery (Exo. 21:16) and puts slave-traders/masters in the same league as murderers, perverts, liars, etc and are referred to being ungodly (1 Tim. 1:8-10)
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 Perhaps you are OK with a man selling his daughter into sex-slavery? Exodus 21:7-11 NLT
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer Exo. 21:7-11 describes when a man sold his daughter as a servant, he allowed her entrance into a marriage covenant in which she approved, too (acting as a servant bride [non-sexually]). As a matter of fact, she was treated as a daughter within the family. Lastly, the passage tells of laws protect the female. And even if the male master ends up not wanting her, he is by law to redeem her and let her go on her way unharmed.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 My mistake. I missed the part about it being good when "a man (sells) his daughter as a servant." I was under the impression that it's bad to sell one human to another, but you've corrected me on that.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer The reason why it was translated as "selling" because some form of payment was given to the father (not always monetary). You missed the part when I said that women servants were considered daughters to masters (or sons if male), plus they would get to live under the same roof as their masters, get paid regularly, have their families stay with them, etc. Lastly, it was illegal under Isrealite law to have sex with servants unless marriage was involved.
Yohko86 2 months ago
@Yohko86 I don't care if it was money, cattle, or a basket of fruit. Payment is payment and selling is selling. You seem like a nice enough person, and I appreciate your civility in this exchange, but it baffles the mind how much bending over believers have to do in order to make their holy book look OK. I believe the reason there are so many apologists for Christianity is due to the fact that reading the Bible on its own will disturb even the most casual reader.
SubconsciousGatherer 2 months ago
@SubconsciousGatherer I'm not trying to make the Bible "look OK", I'm simply answering your question to the best of my ability. I understand that issues like slavery is hard to accept (and answer). I knew a long time ago that everything wasn't pleasant in the Bible (no culture's history is clean) and if only the good parts were left in, I'd be suspicious myself. But instead of blaming God, I took it upon myself to get more understanding (once I became a believer that is).
Yohko86 2 months ago
mormons have a right to believe anything they choose and the right to allow or not allow anyone into their church they want to
pugdogy 2 months ago
Why black people always begging for acceptance to join some religious nonsense
thetainos737 2 months ago
You do know that Mormonism is just a load of bullshit right?
Darthmaio 2 months ago 11
Whatever you do don't click the "show more button" . Jesus christ.....
Vurdox 2 months ago
We are actually the chosen people of the book. Wake up so-call AA's.
Oweboy1960 2 months ago
Negroes are free today,how many or which one personally go home....talk about 50cent,jz,lil wann,dre and even busta ryme. they sit there well relax making money and fame...brother u got no point leave the mormons alone,now dig this in our culture in africa a stranger cant lead in our shrine....u claim ur forefathers dont know God now u are scared of the mormons doing their thing,common get wit....are u even a rasta if u are not please cut that dread...for rasta has other vital ital matter.
osemoboable 2 months ago
This is simply info from the illuminotees and the so called masons and the religious KKK whom believe thier lord and or god is white and he hates blacks, look around the world, we are oppressed under thier systems... not our own, and when you see a African or so called African Nation oppressing their own people they are connected under the NWO to eliminate such people ... for money and promise of power and life full of wealth .. lies... its the end...
zyionfilms 2 months ago
The truth hurts,HUH?
sgtortiz641 2 months ago
Aren't we All Cursed??? We all are meant to Sin!! So in A way they are right.. Hey At least Mormon's Don't Teach to Hate like other's Do and so do Other Religions and that is Sad !!!!
sublimefan421 2 months ago
If you're a black Mormon you need to sit down and have a long, hard think about where you went wrong in life.
mymarkis666 2 months ago 27
@mymarkis666 how can i thumbs up this comment twice?
mph890 1 month ago
If USA goes down, religion will have played a very big part in taking it down.
45iceopen 2 months ago 3
Atheist for the win buddies. =] No conflict there
jerry0o8 2 months ago
god was black just goes to show white people steal everything in this world.
aucita 2 months ago
Nice hair!
195ashes 2 months ago
Just like being an African American christian makes sense. The christian religion was used to enslave the black race, yet, black people, the descendants of slaves, embrace it. Find "the Lord" in that!
74hodag 2 months ago
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I love how Mormons use Black people in their Ad's. Anyone can see right through this. Racism is at the very heart of The Book Of Mormon, and no matter how you look at it the church's view of race is completely indefensible. Seriously, can a dumber religion exist?
Insanityrelic 2 months ago