US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”
Do it! carefully follow the instructions of the IMF and the orders from Washington, and if they have the necessary level of corruption will see the same thing happened in Argentina in anywhere in the world
we are not poor. Argentina is a very rich country. We are strugling with lots of problems now. And now we have to fix what US (with the help of lots of traitors) did to us. I invite you to visit Buenos Aires and the rest of Argentina.
@pablo88bsas NO le heches el muerto a estados unidos.... quienes las cagaron fueron los politicos argentinos y su corrupcion. Sin politicos corruptos y sindicalistas traidores nada de esto hubiera pasado. El primer problema de argentina y de latinoamerica es la mentalidad tercermundista como la del chico del video 0:09 que seguro no pasa de los 30 anos viven en una casucha y tiene 7 niños... para que carajo traes 7 ninos al mundo y te reproduces como un hamster si no tienes que darle de comer?
@Jaruco03 Estados Unidos es Culpable de la miseria de muchos países alrededor del Mundo, las prácticas económicas y financieras de EEUU han llevado al mundo a esta crisis global actual.... El F.M.I es cómplice, lée bien : cómplice de nuestra crisis en 2001 , por supuesto que teníamos políticos muy corruptos, pero EEUU no lo sabía? o es que son muy tontos? no lo creo , EEUU no es tonto, al contrario.
@pablo88bsas Razonemos un poco. Supon que yo soy un vendedor de cuchillos, usted viene a comprarme uno y yo se la vendo con las mejores intenciones. Usted podria usarlo para cosinar, para cortar cosas o incluso para protegerse ....pero en vez de eso termina asecinando a toda su familia con el cuchillo que le he vendido.... Es culpa mia como vendedor de cuchillos del desastre que tu mismo has cometido? Obiamente no. toda la culpa recae en ti pues usted tomo las desiciones... CONTINUA.......
@Jaruco03 Estás diciendo que le venderías cuchilos a un piscópata aún sabiendo que muy probablemente pueda ir a asesinar personas? La verdad que con tal de vender perdés cualquier escrúpulo.
El crecimiento basado en la deuda es una ilusión, un espejismo, una mentira, es una burbuja que tarde o temprano explota, comprá el diario e informate a cerca de Grecia, España y EEUU, vas a descubrir que el único crecimiento viable, es el crecimiento de la Economía Rural: La Producción -
@pablo88bsas De que forma yo se que tu eres un phisicopata? yo soy un simple vendedor de cuchillos no un doctor. De que forma sabia el FMI que tus queridos governantes eran una panda de ladrones si el mismo pueblo los eligio? Crecimiento en la deuda es una ilucion? de veras? osea que usted para comprar una casa un auto jamas ha pedido un prestamo? El mal manejo de la deuda es el problema no la deuda. Economia rural? osea vivir en el siglo 12?
@pablo88bsas Si sigueramos tu filosifia de la economia rural estariamos todabia con una economia agraria del siglo 12. Todas las grandes empresas y proyectos han nesecitado financiamiento en algun momento dado igual que las naciones. Desde microsoft hasta cristoval colon y sus carabelas hasta la estacion espacial internacional todos han surgido y crecido en base a prestamos, que tu pais no supiera manejar una deuda no significa que la deuda es mala. Significa corrupcion solo eso
@pablo88bsas cientos de paises han tenido deudas externas y hoy en dia son potencias... el mismo estados unidos en sus inicios tubo su deuda externa la cual uso para desarroyarse y termino pagando. La unica forma de hacer crecer un negocio o un pais (si no se tienen los recursos) es atravez de prestamos el como usamos esos prestamos es responsabilidad no del que presta sino del que pide prestado. Es muy facil hecharle la culpa a los demas de nuestras propias responsabilidades
@Jaruco03 y dejá de joder con eso de "hecharle la culpa" , ya te dije que fueron principales cómplices, no "absolutos culpables" , así que dejá de mezclar las cosas.
why would you have so many kids when you're so poor? idiots. it's like america, except here you get PAID to have kids when you're poor. hard to feel bad for people who made completely idiotic decisions and then beg smarter people with better planning skills for handouts.
If the complicit politicians were arrested by the citizens and in public had their skin peeled off while still alive, you would see a rapid end to corruption of public office.
Listen, its not about the power of the government its about the society - Why do some countries with big governments work? Clearly the politicians are a reflection of the society that votes them. It's greed and corruption without consequences that makes these terrible people do terrible things. When a society has strong ethical foundations this does not happen. (and not in a dogmatic way) Some human societies work better than others... not necessarily because they exploit the others..
Cómo cambian las personas cuanto obtienen poder y dinero, cuando logran ocupar un lugar de poder e influancia.. fíjense Elisa Carrió denunciando las operaciones imperialistas, manipuladoras y conspirativas de Los Grandes Bancos , JP Morgan, etc y ahora puede versela completamente cambiada, a la derecha de esas mismas corporaciones, despotricando contra toda política estatal y pregonando el neoliberalismo extremo. qué poca memoria...muy triste por Ella.
That question: "where is the money they stole" in the very ending of this clip, is what we should be asking here of our central bank: the Federal Reserve. My guess is offshore banks & the royal families.
espero q los argentinos no nos olvidemos de esto.. sobre todo los q estan en contra de los planes sociales del gobierno.. q se den cuenta de una vez por todas q es algo necesario.. para q esto no vuelva a pasar.. yo trabajo y pago mis impuestos, no entiendo como hay gente q se pasa todo el dia sentada porq tiene una herencia millonaria y se quejan d q los planes los pagamos todos con nuestros impuestos.. los q menos hacen mas se quejan.. fuerza cristinaaaaaaaaaaa
@Wowotes Necesario?????? Culpa de esos planes Argentina no avanza... Hasta cuando le vamos a regalar dinero y casas a esta gente que no aporta nada al pais??? En vez de un plan donde regale plata tenes que darle un trabajo...
Esto es culpa de Peron, quien curiosamente dijo una frase muy interesante "Hay que dar la caña, no el pescado" Peron lo dijo pero no lo hizo...
CFK al igual que los presidentes actuales es lo unico que hacen, regalar plata por votos...
@nikopirata bueno, ya q ves el futuro, decime si argentina va a salir campion en brazil :) te digo algo... deliraaaaaaaaaaas... informate un poco de los planes, deliras.. sos carrio drogada!
@Wowotes Amigo, yo no veo el futuro, pero quiero verlo, vos evidentemente no queres ver, digo preferis a CFK.
Los planes sociales promueven la ignorancia. Dejate de joder, anda a laburar si queres dinero labura! Gastan millones desde el gobierno para un plan social, solo para ganar votos... Si esa plata la gastaran en crear empresas? O de ultima, si esos planes sociales lo gastarn en empleo para limpiar la ciudad? Antes que pagarle a un ignorante por estar tirado en su casa, que limpie el pais
@Wowotes "Sos Carrio drogada", ahi queda definido TODO tu intelecto y la gran posibilidad de establecer una discucion o hablar de algo... Saludos amigo espero que el dia que abras los ojos no sea demaciado tarde... PD: Aprende a escribir un poquito, "campeon" y Brazil es en ingles, en español se le dice "BRASIL"
@Wowotes Y fijate como esta el pais, no vamos para adelante, vamos para atras... asique fijate si no estan equivocados?? Se dice por ahi, que la pelotuda de presidente que tenemos esta metiendo inmigrantes con tal de ganar votos, vos fijate...
Igualmente en Octubre el kirchnerismo se acaba, porque pensas que el pais esta tan tranquilo, si la carne subio mas del 100% y la boluda esta dice que hay que hacer engordar las vacas para tener mas carne?? WTF! jaja
@nikopirata si, eso es lo q hago, destruir el pais, me levanto a la 6 de la mañana para ir a trabajar.. mientras los q solo critican como vos, se quedan mirando... para vos el pais esta mal xq vos estas mal.. trabaja y te va a ir bien.
@Wowotes Einstein una vez dijo... "Las unicas 2 cosas infinitas son el universo y la estupidez humana, aunque de lo primero no estoy tan seguro..." Y viendote, concuerdo con esta persona.
No sabes ni que hago y ya decis giladas, yo no estoy mal, simplemente salgo a la calle y veo la realidad y no me como las cosas que maneja Cristina y su hermoso INDEC... Yo estudio para ser alguien en este pais y tener un futuro mejor, ademas de trabajar hay que aprender a votar para sacar un pais adelante
@nikopirata no hay peor ciego q el q no quiere ver.. me compadesco de vos.. yo tambien estudio, no creas q solo trabajo.. por eso pienso. Mis pesames.
@Wowotes No hay mejor frase que la que dijiste man, espero que cuando abras los ojos, no sea demaciado tarde... Yo no me compadesco de vos, si queres fundir a un pais, hacelo... pero no el mio...
Mejor deja de comentar, porque estas dando lastima solo man, se ve que entre tanto estudio y tanto trabajo no te queda un segundo para pensar en la realidad de Argentina, porque tus comentarios...... eso si que da lastima
Adios man, segui laburando, segui estudiando y segui sin darle bola al pais
@nikopirata trabajando y estudiandono le doy bola al pais?? a buenisimolo tuyo.. dejen todos de trabajar porq aqui el amigo dice q no es productivo!! q poco fundamento.
There is still a sign in LA that reads in spanish "Si espanol es tu idioma, Chase es tu banco" Translation "If spanish is your first language Chase is your bank". Fuck Chase, Fuck JP Morgan, Fuck bank of america. Scoundrels.
Todos los Argentinos tendriamos que ver este documental cada 10 años, para acordarnos como estabamos antes y asi poder valorar a quienes nos gobiernan ahora.
Every Argentine should watch this every 10 years, to remember how we were before in order to apreciate who are we being governed by.
me estás cargando????? Cristina???? Sabés lo que hace cristina y lo que hizo néstor hoy en día????? Lo escuchaste a Pino hablar del kirchnerismo??
dios mio. Esta bien , son mejor de menem. Pero bien mierda ha sido menem y no podés decir "uuuuh, esto es mejor así que votemoslo" Cualquiera es mejor que menem chabón!!! Informate un poco sobre los kirchner. Han hecho cosas, pero economicamente han estado medio dormidos con respecto a todo lo que ves acá.
@INIGUEZELI Vos me estas jodiendo verdad? hay gente que hoy en dia vive asi, se exportan enormes cantidade de comidacuando la gente en nuestro pais se muere de hambre
cristina es tan corrupta como todo el resto, por que te crees que seguimos con todo privatizado?
flaco, obviamente que son mejores que menem, roban un poco mas disimuladamente, pero no jodas, por que el pueblo argentino se merece un mejores gobernantes que los de ahora
y no estoy agradecida por que tdv no cumple bien con su trabajo
@knotpe04 Por suerte esta quedando atras esa historia y argentina crece pero esta vez crece el empleo y no solo el bolsillo de los que mas tienen, con CFK argentina esta recuperando la igualdad tan debastada durante los 90's. :)
the usual suspects: Citibank [Citigroup], JP Morgan, Credit Suisse. Bankers always behind fu*king things up economically. They have a proven track record.
@wimmyroadisback well u shouldnt have 7 kids. bankers do what bankers do. especially if ur busy having 7 kids, and not - protecting ur financial interest. OF COURSE they gonna steal/destroy. if you let em. lol. so go ahead and have 7 kids, then watch them die.
I don't think you understand. In the third world its not like in the first world where the govt has social security and medical care and all kinds of pension sh&t waiting for you at retirement. They have nothing. So they have to rely on their children to support them. 2 or 3 will probably die at a young age. Hence the reason there is financial incentive to have kids.
Its no coincidence that as living standards go up, the number of children go down.
@orangedac no , i actually understand a lot better than u think i do, that's why gypsies are so despised ,because actually argentina is 2nd world and in the 2nd world they do have government helping out and the middle class which makes wages that in the US are below poverty (and theres a difference in standart ofc) ,but they feel like they are doing all the work and these guys that are goin around fukin everyone and gettin themselfs pregnant with 15 kids at 14, i mean... WHAT DO U EXPECT.
@orangedac and that's why i too can see that perspective ,because although the situation sucks ,who got theirself in that situation? they did. the fact that the bankers rob u, well u get into a casino and u play blackjack ,ur gonna loose ,and the casino is playing by the rules. their rules. i mean come on,where do people get off. and u have 10 babies and watch them die,because thats ur only way of seeing 50. because u want them to continue the great life u had. okay.
@Yamakashi1 Its easy to be talking when you are living well in a foreign country. Put you in the same situation and your prespectives will change.
People in the 3rd world are not involved in casino games with banks. Rather banks game the system via the Federal Reserve by ripping people off with fiat money. Americans are now getting a taste of how banking goons pass their losses onto suckers by bribing politicians.
What will you do when they blame you for not feeding your 2 children?
@orangedac how do you know how i'm living, and Where im living for that matter. you don't know me. and we're not talkin about me anyway. we're talkin about this situation. im not defending banks, to the contrary. im not saying anything against the children either. that's what some people on here didnt get. im saying previous generations are STUPID ,thats how people get conned anyway. con men are bad, but thats a given. and they should be persecuted and charged for their crimes.
@orangedac what i am saying is that if i lived in a place like this. and if i couldnt feed myself. i would NOT consider it holy to have 7 kids, alright? i would consider it a sin. we are all a part of this system, we are all affected by inflation. not every one of us is that stupid to be making 7 kids ,and some of us like u said live in better places. so whats wrong with u people not recognizing the fact that these guys dont deserve pity. their kids might, but not them.
These people were able to afford kids until banking crooks reduced their nation to poverty. Are only rich banking crooks who rip off the productive class of society allowed to have kids? Post collapse, Argentina has booted out these banking crooks and bounced back economically.
I'm afraid telling a person who's been victimiized by robbery that its their fault they got robbed is nonsense. Bankers do no real work other than act as scamming middlemen.
@orangedac how is it that its your first language that im speakin in ,yet u dont seem to get it. which part of well everything i said didnt u get. see, stupidity ,as in this case is universal, doesnt matter if u live in argentina or canada. the point being u can make stupid mistakes either way and be equally as guilty sometimes for being conned as the con artist. although i dont think that most people deserve to be conned , a stupid man is soon parted with its money. law of nature, society.
They were able to afford kids until banking crooks ripped them off. You'd be able to afford food until banking crooks rip you off Then you can call your parents idiots for having u. A thief in an elevator isn't "smart" for stabbing u and stealing your wallet anymore than you are stupid for getting stabbed.
The world isn't the private enterprise of banking crooks who do no work but live off other peoples efforts.
Can we first execute kids of banking crooks please ?
@orangedac "who do no work but live off other peoples efforts." is a lot of people.
yes, id be calling my parents idiots if they had 7 kids, you are correct, because they cant afford 7 kids.
i dont think i even excused the bankers, all i said was if people cared that much before shtf , they would've learned enough about it, educated themselves and stood up against it. are u saying people killing other people in ovens because it was ordered /ww2/ were completely innocent and deserved only pity.
7 kids, 1 kid what's the difference? Your parents would be idiots for having you if banking crooks ripped them off as per your logic.
No matter how "educate" you imagine yourself to be, most are powerless to fight banking crooks. They hijacking govt machinery through bribery and use it as a shield behind which they perpetrating their scams.
Despite so called educated people in the US, not a single banking crook has landed in jail for the current economic fiasco.
@orangedac And i don't give a single fuck about US bankers. And i don't understand where you get off on this stupid illogical blabber. Guess ,never.
"most are powerless to fight banking crooks"
Yes, ignorant people similar to yourself are not. That's why everyone would be picking your pocket while you're having your eight kid. I hope you guys have a great life, just remember society doesnt owe you anything, so dont cry on camera too much, aint productive.
I think you ramble too much without actually making any points.
You are in no position to change any banking-govt crooked nexus. They can steal from you and the rest of society at will. When they do, you have to call your parents idiots for having you.
@orangedac i think ur projecting, because ur the one not making any sense, if people are in no position to make a change,they are slaves, if they are slaves and you admit that you are a slave, then you are weak for allowing yourself to be a slave and to not do anything about it. im sure ur projecting about the parents too. i will never call my parents simply because of weakness. if it's my battle to fight, i will fight alone and learn along the way. and when times call for it i will choose the
@orangedac and either way ,my whole argument is not what you're commenting on, ur commenting on ur same old bulshit story that u have goin on in ur head. ur just an idiot. i really think ur parents were too. sorry,but ur useless.
@orangedac and they are stupid ,because they dont give a shit. just like in the US with their hamburgers and huge-bellies and braindead psychology. this is how one generation of not giving a fuk or being corrupt leads to next generation of pitiful slugs that look and think like they arent thinking, or eating for that matter. its easy to defend them ,because they were "trapped" by marketing and syntetic flavour, but they acted like slaves and now they are. so are u.
Argentina was a middle income country prior to banking crooks ripping them off. The people could definately afford their kids. Once the ripoff occured, it became a poor country.
My suggestion is that since you acknowledge this ripoff, shouldn't banking crooks be the first to be sterilized so they don't have any (more) children. I mean they are a proven nusiance to the planet. Can you kick off the sterelization drive asap?
@orangedac This is getting ridiculous. I will bet you any amount they could not have been able to afford 7 kids, ur generalising when we're talkin about a specific family "they the people can afford" ,yeah, no they can't.
And then you're changing the subject and chant about bankers again. I told you, of course the bankers are "guilty" ,its not even a question. if u cant say anything that makes sense ,discontinue this.
@orangedac I dont want anyone sterilized and i think that in an ideal world everyone would be having as many kids as they want, just a thousand kids for everyone ,u no , overpopulate the entire galaxy , i dont care. we're not in an ideal world thou , and part of it is because of stupid people like you and them and yeah the bankers too. but you are in the billions and they are in the tens and hundreds. so what is ur problem?
Nah I'd first like to see a keyboard warrior like yourself walk into a bank and try to sterilize a few banking crooks. So how about it. I mean sh&t you sure have a big mouth when it comes to telling people who have been ripped off how stupid they were to have kids. So how about putting that bravado to good use and cutting off the nuts of a few crooks who're stealing from society.
When are you going to sterillize a banking crook? Could you give me a date and time please.
@orangedac 7 kids, 1 kid ,that shows just how ignorant u are, there's a HUGE difference. they couldnt raise THEMSELVES (EVEN BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENED) ,let alone 1 kid, let alone SEVEN FRIKKIN KIDS (LET ALONE AFTER OR DURING TURMOIL). idiot.
@orangedac and my parents have already raised me, and i think i can make a change in the world or/and for myself . there's a huge difference.
the problem is theres a huge amount of baggage on changing the world because previous generations were so uneducated and acted like sheep and animals.
by the way, read all my comments and read them carefully, you're missing points and not making sense when ur tlakin about somethign i have already adressed.
@orangedac lets say it again ,that what they are guilty of is stupidity, and cruelty against their children. and no, they were NOT able to afford 7 kids. not 7. dunno bout kids, but never 7. ever.
ever. unless u specifically want to live like this, in which case u shouldnt be complaining. again - s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y.
@orangedac and ur last question , i have answered already. i would not even consider making 2 kids just because i couldnt handle it psychologically right now, neither emotional , and maybe even financially. i couldnt send 2 kids to college , and deal with work and this crysis and a wife. no ,thank you. this is a timeframe i would consider it a sin for anyone to be having kids, unless they are a millionaire and have everything figured out or most of it anyway.
if people werent so DUMB and took out ARM's and whatever mortgages and let gov take over THEIR savings, THEIR rights. If THEY didnt SELL OUT ,their CHILDREN wouldnt be suffering, THEIR children wouldnt be hungry, THEIR children wouldnt be out there fighting wars for the landlords, paying off THEIR debt to the slavemasters.
@IronicallyVague and i will gladly shatter ur little head if u think that these parents are right to do this to their own children and to society. i will gladly watch you suffer in the coming crash too.
@shootcocacola73 the fact that they had the innocent kids makes them even more guilty. they didnt choose that life, and they wont have a lot to change their situation ,or society for that matter , for the better. therefore its the parents that had been the most irresponsible trough the entire time, even when they were being robbed, althou not specifically this family, thats living off the grid.
see , im not hatin on them, its just how things are. people should accept the truth before change occ
Seria bueno recordar que la Segunda Guerra Mundial, es una guerra entre gobiernos electos: Alemania Nazi, Italia fascista y La Tirania Japonesa, eran gobiernos votados por el pueblo.. el Peronismo tiene la misma raiz de esos gobiernos criminales,
I wish Argentinians were Muslim; they would not have fallen for any of these falsehoods. Religion (catholicism would not have been the opium of the masses, but a force for social justice-Jihad)
todo bien los que tienen la culpa pero yo tambien me pregunto el tipo comienza diciendo que tiene no uno ni dos sino que TIENE 7 HIJOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POR QUE CARAJO TIENEN TANTOS? LOS FORROS SON GRATIS HIJOS DE PUTA ESOS 7 CHICOS SON 7 POBRES MAS!!!!. POR FAVOR TENGAN UN POCO DE CABEZA!
@marianoarenaza tené cabeza vos SIMIO! a una persona ignorante por culpa del estado le vas a pedir que sepa cuidarse para no tener muchos hijos?? te pensás que se acercaban hasta esos lugares a regalar forros salame? si estas cosas nos pasaron en el país es porque hay mucha gente que tiene la misma mentalidad que vos. Me das verguenza como argentino
@minicname pero te pensas que no saben!? recontra saben como se hace para cuidarse. en que barrio remilgado de bs as vivis. yo fui a la escuela publica y tube como especialidad en la salud, y sin embargo tenia 2 compañeras embarazadas. en mi colegio estaban todos desde el mas rico al mas pobre... esas 2 pendejas no digamos que se cagaron la vida pero que se la complicaron bastante es seguro
@marianoarenaza yo me crié en Lanús y por eso hablo con conocimiento de causa. rodeado de villas (caraza, fiorito, etc). No me corrás con giladas de barrio. Seguí encerrado en tu cubo pero no desparramés tu poca lucidez por la web si podés. Saludos
@politicalsheepdog Yes, But will the americans GIVE everyting the the banks like the Argintines? These guys didnt even fight and when they did, it was too late..!
@sjhill87ish Yes you are right. Government owned companies were working well for Argentina. I don't know why they messed with something that wasn't broken. Of course it was individual corruption and greed of the politicians. They should have been shot for what they did.
somos unos pelotudos! lo peor es qeu se siguen postulando a manejar el pais... y se los siguen votando cuando aca vamos a aprender los argentinos en que nos tenemos que poner los huevos para hacer que los putos gobiernos difiendan realmente nuestros derechos? cuantos muertos de habre necesitamos? cuantoas empresas mas tenemos que vender? cuantas millones de hc tenemos que darle a lo choros de los empresarios multinacionales para que nos demos cuenta lo pelotudos que somos!!!
Si es cierto. Por eso a partir de ahora hay que dejar de ser PELOTUDOS y PENSAR a la hora de votar. Yo ya elegí presidente para 2011 y se llama PINO SOLANAS, vos?
@astrosebas77 Me parece bien como cineasta e investigador el trabajo de Pino,pero no es una persona idonea para manejar un pais...se necesita alguien inteligente,con conocimientos en economía y conocimientos en planificación...tiene que ser el "elegido"
Mira, lo importante es que para el 2011 Proyecto Sur pueda obtener la máxima representación parlamentaria posible... por eso hay que acompañarlos a como de lugar... son los únicos que están pensando y forzando a la clase política "tradicional" a discutir temas impostergables!!!
En que te basas? Ten'es alg'un ejemplo dentro de la pol'itica Argentina actual relacionado con un proyecto superador de pa'is, o como m'inimo, que sea lo que sea pero al menos "serio"...? Yo creo que son todos impresentables... y que PS es la 'unica fuerza pol'itica con los huevos suficientes para discutir las cosas importantes... es mi opini'on nom'as, espero tu feedback.
@astrosebas77 Si,usan las viejas recetas ya antes vistas,todo manos del estado,no habla nada sobre como para la inflación...muy "alfonsinista"...es un desastre,sinceramente...
Claro, hace falta gente preparada, con muchos conocimientos como Martinez de Hoz o Cavallo.
Pino Solanas Justamente SIRVE por estar preparado con la escuela de la calle y la VERDAD, no en Oxford al servicio del capital extrangero que te cuenta el versito de lo que es la sabiduria o no.
Sino fijate lo que le paso cuando vos seguramente estabas comprando pelotudeces en el 1 a 1)
Yo soy Porte~o y estoy HARTO de los nenes que opinan del pais desde Avenida Cabildo.
@fedeminiciUK Escuela de la calle? despues te quejas de que las cosas anden mal? vos no te podes quejar de nada luego...estudía donde sea, mientras sea economia.Dá proyectos concretos...sumá,restá,usá numeros,basta de falcias "Pino sirbe porque esta preparado con la escuela de la calle" 3er mundo...bien ahi...mostrá que almenos somos un pais en desarrollo,no uno desarrollado para siempre...una palabra..BRASIL..
A ver... Mi opinión, sin peleas. 1) Que los recursos ESTRATEGICOS y los SERVICIOS públicos sean manejados por el estado es lo que hacen TODOS los países SERIOS. En los '90 nos metieron el cuento de que privatizando todo se salvaba el país... pero hay cosas que no se pueden vender como los recursos naturales, o si se privatizan tiene que hacerse un contrato JUSTO para el estado. 2) Pino no es de la "escuela de la calle", de donde sacaron eso? Es un tipo inteligentísimo...
... que se viene preparando hace años para ser una alternativa de centroizquierda viable en la Argentina. Fijate en Brasil, por ejemplo, que vos mencionas... el petróleo es estatal? Si. En México: también... el cobre en Chile? El estado participa fuertemente de las ganancias, es decir, es socio... nosotros regalamos todo y subsidiamos encima... eso es así... el transporte era mejor antes que ahora, y ahora encima pagamos... no se trata de estatizar todo... sólo lo que realmente importa...
3) Pino en los '90 evito la privatización de la Comisión Nacional de Energía Atómica (te imaginas un país sin poder decidir sobre su investigación nuclear, o sus fuentes de energía? porque si se privatizaba CNEA, también se vendía Atucha y la central de Córdoba por ej). También Menem quería vender Yaciretá para hacer un negociado y venderle a Brasil energía, con la crisis energética cerca!! Las centrales nucleares en Francia o Alemania son privadas? No... ok, muchos saludos...
@astrosebas77 Bueno...dale,tomemos lo del primer mundo,me encantó,muy bueno tu analisis lo cual es todo cierto,aca nadie esta a favor sobre los 90,ahora,cual es el problema? hablamos de seguridad? hablamos de inversion?,si tomamos al pimer mundo tomemos todo,no solo la parte que queremos...corta la calle en Francia...matá a alguien en alemania,violá en Italia,robá en Londres... ahí fijate...
@astrosebas77 Cuando estube a favor de los 90?? osea quien critica el hecho de que haya cosas en manos del estado?...yo critico que todo sea en manos del estado y si lo quieren hacer,esta bien,pero que tiren soluciones,inflacion?? desigualdad?? competitividad?? como reducimos la burocracia?? como podemos aumentar las exportaciones???...aca nadie me dijo todavia.."Pino habla de como aumentar las exportaciones"...el tipo no sirbe!! como lo pueden entender?? es un Alfonsín!!
Buenas, yo no dije que estabas a favor de los 90. Simplemente estaba haciendo mi análisis. Entonces estamos de acuerdo que no hay que estatizar todo, sólo lo que es necesario para el desarrollo del país de manera tal que es estado pueda disponer de los recursos... y eso es lo que plantea PS. También tienen un plan para recomponer
la economía y, podés o no estar de acuerdo, se basa esencialemente en la recuperación de la renta petrolera.
Por otro lado, si te fijas en las bases de PS podés encontrar como piensan recuperar la economía incentivando a las pequeñas y medianas empresas. Respecto de la seguridad, yo creo que el objetivo fundamental es hacer cumplir la ley, y eso es algo que forma parte de sus bases. Por lo tanto no veo inconveniente en que se apliquen políticas de seguridad de acuerdo con las leyes, y que se presenten proyectos de ley para cambiar las que hagan falta.
No estoy diciendo que Pino y PS sean perfectos pero lamentablemente en este momento en nuestro país a la única fuerza política que veo con la seriedad y la fuerza para hacer llevar a cabo un proyecto de país es PS y por eso tienen mi apoyo. Acordate que Lula al comienzo fue un sindicalista y dirigente social vapuleado por todos y que compitió y perdió varias veces antes de llegar a la presidencia.
Porqué no darle oportunidad a gente realmente patriota en Arg, porqueésiempre UCR o PJ (ya sabemos como nos dejaron). No hay ánimo de pelea, sólo intercambio de opinión, los dos somos Args y queremos lo mejor para el país. Yo creo que hoy lo mejor es Proyecto Sur, de hecho es el primer partido político en mi vida que me dió esperanzas en el futuro... una cosita más hasta donde yo sé los Franceses son my combativos en sus huelgas... acá sólo hay que hacer cumplir la ley, bue, saludos.
astrosebas77 Una pregunta. Supongamos que un dìa gana alguien incorruptible, con pelotas y con la lucidez suficiente como para comprender que està sentado en el sillòn de Rivadavia porque Nosotros lo pusimos ahì. ¿Còmo lo mantenemos en el poder, còmo lo cuidamos? Porque los peronistas y radicales van a poner el pais de cabeza con tal de recuperar el poder y todos sabemos que eso es asì.
Aca gobierna el mas Pesado y cuando el mas Pesado pierde, hace caer al elegido el cual luego, queda en la memoria colectiva como el "inutil que no fue capaz de culminar su mandato"
Es verdad lo que decís, de hecho ya ha pasado, Illia el más claro ejemplo, aunque en ese caso desplazado por un golpe de estado, pero lo que no comparto es la desesperanza. Otra realidad es posible y depende, en parte, de todos nosotros. Lo peor que podemos hacer como Argentinos es resignarnos a sufrir. Esta lleno de ejemplos en la historia Argentina de personas que no se rindieron y que generaron cosas importantes sobre las cuales hoy nos sostenemos. Es mentira que todo esta perdido.
A mi modo de ver se trata más de cambiar nuestra idiosincracia como sociedad que otra cosa. Pensá que el mismo Peronismo en sus comienzos fue una causa popular que no era apoyada por el establishment. Y esta a la vista que se impusieron, aunque lamentablemente se han tergiversado sus bases sociales. El cambio cultural es posible, llevará tiempo y perseverancia pero es algo que todos debemos encarar, en nosotros y nuestro entorno. No por resignación le allanaré el camino a los traidores.
Los odio, los odioooo.............Malditos, malditos los q comercian a costa de los pueblos..........los voy a matar a todos hijos de puta..........Menem te voy a ir a buscar y te voy a matar.lentamente............hasta q te mueras sin comida como los pobres de TU PAIS y el mio. HDP!!!!!!!!
@stuntpea hope is the blind that creates apathy. I hope all people band together kill all bankers, officials, and anyone else who would kill the people and return the world to one worth living in for all. Global oppression requires global action.
Man! This is so much like the U.S. it hurts to watch. Like Obama on the cover of Spiderman! Celebrity politicians are the worst! At least Bush was openly evil..........
this is the future of the united states.A country that sold his sovereignty in order to pay his debt.A corrupt country unable of reform, conquered by the international banks and foreign powers.
someone without education dont have sexual education either. Besides, many of those women are constantly abused and raped by their husbands, boyfriends or other men, they dont choose to get pregnant. So please dont speak if you dont know how it is
The privatization explained in this video is not against free market capitalism. If you were paying attention to the videos the companies were sold to foreign nations. Iberia (spain) bought the airlines. (Spain) bought the oil. France bought the telecomunications. This is what they mean by privitization. Selling what belonged to the Argentines to foreigners. Kind of what Obama is doing right now to American Industries (Chrysler = Fiat)!
No, fuck Corporatism. We have not had a true Capitalist system for a very long time, because Corporatism has dominated. Corporatism is not about free markets, it about feudalistic control over the people by an elite minority. You remove Corporatism from the picture, and I guarantee, Capitalism will begin to work again.
nr before we go further; you admit the fed reserve is a huge problem, and you admit the fed reserve is owned by rich jewish elite? yes or no? dont try to talk around it. if you're honest on this one we will discuss further, otherwise I will educate the readers and forget about you.
dutchfreedoms - I don't know how this good posting got marked as "spam" and closed, but I upvoted it, and clicked "not spam" for whatever effect that may have. :-)
You've got to stop with this bullshit. Is Rupert Murdoch a Jew, is Ted Turner a Jew? No. It's nothing to do with the Jewish faith, it's to do with the rich, doesn't matter if the rich are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc...
nr before we go further; you admit the fed reserve is a huge problem, and you admit the fed reserve is owned by rich jewish elite? yes or no? dont try to talk around it. if you're honest on this one we will discuss further, otherwise I will educate the readers and forget about you.
I've just answered some of this in the comments for part 6 of 12 of this video series. The ownership of the Fed is a secret but it is likely to contain some/most Jewish people. Their faith is irrelevant though, there are plenty of good Jewish people, the fact that some people have that title and do some bad shit is not a reflection on the whole faith, ya get me? (P.S. I'm not Jewish).
So, blahdelablah - how's this for rich foreign jew owners of the Fed?
Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris; Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy; Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Brothers of New York; Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York; Chase Manhatten; and Goldman, Sachs of New York
Now it's your turn. Go find out who owns those middle-management shell-corporations and you'll have your answer. But I doubt you'll like it. :-)
I only question you because your logic seems flawed. The Jewish faith does not state 'you must enslave the world through banking', the fact many powerful bankers are Jewish is just a consequence of history, just like how European culture became the dominant one worldwide. I do not object to criticism of the banking elite, in fact I do think the banking elite are a bad influence on the world, but what I do object to is any statement that suggests they are driven by their Jewishness.
Interesting quote, but you still seem to be missing my point. If I walked up to a Jewish person in the street and asked them to talk to me about what was going on in the Fed I am much more likely to get a blank expression. It's not a Jewish thing it's an controlling elite thing, the fact that the controlling elite (this is the 'we' Rosenthal was referring to in your quote) come from a certain background is for historical reasons, not religious reasons.
blahdelablah - no, I understand your point perfectly. It is exactly what they would have you believe.
"Most Jews throughout the world, I'd say more than 90%, know what is really happening to our people. We have communication unequaled anywhere...
"On the first and fundamental lie, the purpose of which is to make people believe that we are not a nation but a religion, other lies are subsequently based."
--Harold Rosenthal, jew, admin ass't to Sen. Jacob Javits, R-NY
Addendum: blahdelablah, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, when asked who/where the bail-out money went, and did it actually end up in foreign countries, answered, and I quote:
No, I don't believe Bernanke regarding the bail-out money, I do not trust the ruling elite in general, but I do not suspect Bernanke does what he does for any higher purpose than greed and power. The bail-out money is much more likely to have lined the pockets of rich businessmen (regardless of their nationality) than to have gone to one country in particular.
The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad.
"The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies.
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Let's tell THE WHOLE TRUTH.
US congresswoman Cynthia McKinney has come out and blamed the pro-Israel Lobby in America (AIPAC, ADL, ZOA, etc) for ruining her political career. While in congress she refused to sign the pro-Israel pledge and took a pro-Palestinian stance. Because of this, McKinney said “war was declared” on her by the Jewish lobby. In 2009 she told TIU's Ognir that “more than 99% of Congress work for Pro Zionist Israeli interests.”
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LordLindsey12 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
cuanto dolor me da la mujer del 1:25 por favor!
roberbonox 1 month ago
¿Qué te pasó, Carrió? :S antes eras genial...ahora...das lástima.
XxNyuLucyxX 4 months ago 2
Menem is like Carl Sagan's evil twin!
micronautical 5 months ago 2
Do it! carefully follow the instructions of the IMF and the orders from Washington, and if they have the necessary level of corruption will see the same thing happened in Argentina in anywhere in the world
we are not poor. Argentina is a very rich country. We are strugling with lots of problems now. And now we have to fix what US (with the help of lots of traitors) did to us. I invite you to visit Buenos Aires and the rest of Argentina.
pablo88bsas 5 months ago 2
@pablo88bsas NO le heches el muerto a estados unidos.... quienes las cagaron fueron los politicos argentinos y su corrupcion. Sin politicos corruptos y sindicalistas traidores nada de esto hubiera pasado. El primer problema de argentina y de latinoamerica es la mentalidad tercermundista como la del chico del video 0:09 que seguro no pasa de los 30 anos viven en una casucha y tiene 7 niños... para que carajo traes 7 ninos al mundo y te reproduces como un hamster si no tienes que darle de comer?
Jaruco03 2 months ago
@Jaruco03 Estados Unidos es Culpable de la miseria de muchos países alrededor del Mundo, las prácticas económicas y financieras de EEUU han llevado al mundo a esta crisis global actual.... El F.M.I es cómplice, lée bien : cómplice de nuestra crisis en 2001 , por supuesto que teníamos políticos muy corruptos, pero EEUU no lo sabía? o es que son muy tontos? no lo creo , EEUU no es tonto, al contrario.
pablo88bsas 2 months ago
@pablo88bsas Razonemos un poco. Supon que yo soy un vendedor de cuchillos, usted viene a comprarme uno y yo se la vendo con las mejores intenciones. Usted podria usarlo para cosinar, para cortar cosas o incluso para protegerse ....pero en vez de eso termina asecinando a toda su familia con el cuchillo que le he vendido.... Es culpa mia como vendedor de cuchillos del desastre que tu mismo has cometido? Obiamente no. toda la culpa recae en ti pues usted tomo las desiciones... CONTINUA.......
Jaruco03 2 months ago
@Jaruco03 Estás diciendo que le venderías cuchilos a un piscópata aún sabiendo que muy probablemente pueda ir a asesinar personas? La verdad que con tal de vender perdés cualquier escrúpulo.
El crecimiento basado en la deuda es una ilusión, un espejismo, una mentira, es una burbuja que tarde o temprano explota, comprá el diario e informate a cerca de Grecia, España y EEUU, vas a descubrir que el único crecimiento viable, es el crecimiento de la Economía Rural: La Producción -
pablo88bsas 2 months ago
@pablo88bsas De que forma yo se que tu eres un phisicopata? yo soy un simple vendedor de cuchillos no un doctor. De que forma sabia el FMI que tus queridos governantes eran una panda de ladrones si el mismo pueblo los eligio? Crecimiento en la deuda es una ilucion? de veras? osea que usted para comprar una casa un auto jamas ha pedido un prestamo? El mal manejo de la deuda es el problema no la deuda. Economia rural? osea vivir en el siglo 12?
Jaruco03 2 months ago
@pablo88bsas Si sigueramos tu filosifia de la economia rural estariamos todabia con una economia agraria del siglo 12. Todas las grandes empresas y proyectos han nesecitado financiamiento en algun momento dado igual que las naciones. Desde microsoft hasta cristoval colon y sus carabelas hasta la estacion espacial internacional todos han surgido y crecido en base a prestamos, que tu pais no supiera manejar una deuda no significa que la deuda es mala. Significa corrupcion solo eso
Jaruco03 2 months ago
@pablo88bsas cientos de paises han tenido deudas externas y hoy en dia son potencias... el mismo estados unidos en sus inicios tubo su deuda externa la cual uso para desarroyarse y termino pagando. La unica forma de hacer crecer un negocio o un pais (si no se tienen los recursos) es atravez de prestamos el como usamos esos prestamos es responsabilidad no del que presta sino del que pide prestado. Es muy facil hecharle la culpa a los demas de nuestras propias responsabilidades
Jaruco03 2 months ago
@Jaruco03 y dejá de joder con eso de "hecharle la culpa" , ya te dije que fueron principales cómplices, no "absolutos culpables" , así que dejá de mezclar las cosas.
pablo88bsas 2 months ago
why would you have so many kids when you're so poor? idiots. it's like america, except here you get PAID to have kids when you're poor. hard to feel bad for people who made completely idiotic decisions and then beg smarter people with better planning skills for handouts.
treefittyfive 6 months ago
LoL what a third world country....I just hope they don't start begging for international help.
damiion666 6 months ago
Yo quiero saber que opinan los policias que en esos años defendian las instituciones del mismo pueblo ya que toda la verdad ya se sabe.
Estan contentos con haber golpeado a las gentes por defender sus derechos?
Estan tranquilos en sus casas por haber cumplido con su deber?
Duermen tranquilos en sus camas despues de haber defendido a corruptos?
Donde estan esta mano protectora de ladrones y bandidos?
Tu fuiste de la "fuerza púbica"? Que opinas sobre todo esto?
omolivera 6 months ago 5
If the complicit politicians were arrested by the citizens and in public had their skin peeled off while still alive, you would see a rapid end to corruption of public office.
QuiksiIver 7 months ago in playlist Argentina's Economic Collapse
Listen, its not about the power of the government its about the society - Why do some countries with big governments work? Clearly the politicians are a reflection of the society that votes them. It's greed and corruption without consequences that makes these terrible people do terrible things. When a society has strong ethical foundations this does not happen. (and not in a dogmatic way) Some human societies work better than others... not necessarily because they exploit the others..
Abcflc 7 months ago
Cómo cambian las personas cuanto obtienen poder y dinero, cuando logran ocupar un lugar de poder e influancia.. fíjense Elisa Carrió denunciando las operaciones imperialistas, manipuladoras y conspirativas de Los Grandes Bancos , JP Morgan, etc y ahora puede versela completamente cambiada, a la derecha de esas mismas corporaciones, despotricando contra toda política estatal y pregonando el neoliberalismo extremo. qué poca memoria...muy triste por Ella.
pablo88bsas 8 months ago 2
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CivilizedMan444 8 months ago
There is only one solution for these swindlers: it's called "bullet".
reuven1967 9 months ago
That question: "where is the money they stole" in the very ending of this clip, is what we should be asking here of our central bank: the Federal Reserve. My guess is offshore banks & the royal families.
gigisandiego96 9 months ago
espero q los argentinos no nos olvidemos de esto.. sobre todo los q estan en contra de los planes sociales del gobierno.. q se den cuenta de una vez por todas q es algo necesario.. para q esto no vuelva a pasar.. yo trabajo y pago mis impuestos, no entiendo como hay gente q se pasa todo el dia sentada porq tiene una herencia millonaria y se quejan d q los planes los pagamos todos con nuestros impuestos.. los q menos hacen mas se quejan.. fuerza cristinaaaaaaaaaaa
Wowotes 1 year ago
@Wowotes Necesario?????? Culpa de esos planes Argentina no avanza... Hasta cuando le vamos a regalar dinero y casas a esta gente que no aporta nada al pais??? En vez de un plan donde regale plata tenes que darle un trabajo...
Esto es culpa de Peron, quien curiosamente dijo una frase muy interesante "Hay que dar la caña, no el pescado" Peron lo dijo pero no lo hizo...
CFK al igual que los presidentes actuales es lo unico que hacen, regalar plata por votos...
CFK no vas a ganar estas elecciones
nikopirata 10 months ago
@nikopirata bueno, ya q ves el futuro, decime si argentina va a salir campion en brazil :) te digo algo... deliraaaaaaaaaaas... informate un poco de los planes, deliras.. sos carrio drogada!
Wowotes 10 months ago
@Wowotes Amigo, yo no veo el futuro, pero quiero verlo, vos evidentemente no queres ver, digo preferis a CFK.
Los planes sociales promueven la ignorancia. Dejate de joder, anda a laburar si queres dinero labura! Gastan millones desde el gobierno para un plan social, solo para ganar votos... Si esa plata la gastaran en crear empresas? O de ultima, si esos planes sociales lo gastarn en empleo para limpiar la ciudad? Antes que pagarle a un ignorante por estar tirado en su casa, que limpie el pais
nikopirata 10 months ago
@Wowotes "Sos Carrio drogada", ahi queda definido TODO tu intelecto y la gran posibilidad de establecer una discucion o hablar de algo... Saludos amigo espero que el dia que abras los ojos no sea demaciado tarde... PD: Aprende a escribir un poquito, "campeon" y Brazil es en ingles, en español se le dice "BRASIL"
nikopirata 10 months ago
@nikopirata ok, gracias por tus ''sabios concejos'' q lastima q haya tanta gente equibocada en este pais no te parece?
Wowotes 10 months ago
@Wowotes Y fijate como esta el pais, no vamos para adelante, vamos para atras... asique fijate si no estan equivocados?? Se dice por ahi, que la pelotuda de presidente que tenemos esta metiendo inmigrantes con tal de ganar votos, vos fijate...
Igualmente en Octubre el kirchnerismo se acaba, porque pensas que el pais esta tan tranquilo, si la carne subio mas del 100% y la boluda esta dice que hay que hacer engordar las vacas para tener mas carne?? WTF! jaja
Segui destruyendo el pais, IGNORANTE
nikopirata 10 months ago
@nikopirata si, eso es lo q hago, destruir el pais, me levanto a la 6 de la mañana para ir a trabajar.. mientras los q solo critican como vos, se quedan mirando... para vos el pais esta mal xq vos estas mal.. trabaja y te va a ir bien.
Wowotes 10 months ago
@Wowotes Einstein una vez dijo... "Las unicas 2 cosas infinitas son el universo y la estupidez humana, aunque de lo primero no estoy tan seguro..." Y viendote, concuerdo con esta persona.
No sabes ni que hago y ya decis giladas, yo no estoy mal, simplemente salgo a la calle y veo la realidad y no me como las cosas que maneja Cristina y su hermoso INDEC... Yo estudio para ser alguien en este pais y tener un futuro mejor, ademas de trabajar hay que aprender a votar para sacar un pais adelante
nikopirata 10 months ago
@nikopirata no hay peor ciego q el q no quiere ver.. me compadesco de vos.. yo tambien estudio, no creas q solo trabajo.. por eso pienso. Mis pesames.
Wowotes 10 months ago
@Wowotes No hay mejor frase que la que dijiste man, espero que cuando abras los ojos, no sea demaciado tarde... Yo no me compadesco de vos, si queres fundir a un pais, hacelo... pero no el mio...
Mejor deja de comentar, porque estas dando lastima solo man, se ve que entre tanto estudio y tanto trabajo no te queda un segundo para pensar en la realidad de Argentina, porque tus comentarios...... eso si que da lastima
Adios man, segui laburando, segui estudiando y segui sin darle bola al pais
nikopirata 10 months ago
@nikopirata trabajando y estudiandono le doy bola al pais?? a buenisimolo tuyo.. dejen todos de trabajar porq aqui el amigo dice q no es productivo!! q poco fundamento.
Wowotes 10 months ago
There is still a sign in LA that reads in spanish "Si espanol es tu idioma, Chase es tu banco" Translation "If spanish is your first language Chase is your bank". Fuck Chase, Fuck JP Morgan, Fuck bank of america. Scoundrels.
possumedd 1 year ago
If that was me living in that hut unemployed, I would not have 7 kids.
1sick93 1 year ago 2
To Americans, your politicians are doing the same right now. Trillions of "bailouts", Trillions of "Quantitative Easing"
pjmyou 1 year ago
Part 9 has good info.
denverdog44 1 year ago
Todos los Argentinos tendriamos que ver este documental cada 10 años, para acordarnos como estabamos antes y asi poder valorar a quienes nos gobiernan ahora.
Every Argentine should watch this every 10 years, to remember how we were before in order to apreciate who are we being governed by.
Cristina Kirchner 2011
INIGUEZELI 1 year ago
@INIGUEZELI
me estás cargando????? Cristina???? Sabés lo que hace cristina y lo que hizo néstor hoy en día????? Lo escuchaste a Pino hablar del kirchnerismo??
dios mio. Esta bien , son mejor de menem. Pero bien mierda ha sido menem y no podés decir "uuuuh, esto es mejor así que votemoslo" Cualquiera es mejor que menem chabón!!! Informate un poco sobre los kirchner. Han hecho cosas, pero economicamente han estado medio dormidos con respecto a todo lo que ves acá.
tinurieaa 1 year ago
@INIGUEZELI Vos me estas jodiendo verdad? hay gente que hoy en dia vive asi, se exportan enormes cantidade de comidacuando la gente en nuestro pais se muere de hambre
cristina es tan corrupta como todo el resto, por que te crees que seguimos con todo privatizado?
flaco, obviamente que son mejores que menem, roban un poco mas disimuladamente, pero no jodas, por que el pueblo argentino se merece un mejores gobernantes que los de ahora
y no estoy agradecida por que tdv no cumple bien con su trabajo
majo271010 1 year ago
Valla argentina estaba mal, ahora esta mejorando esperemos que puedan salir de esto.
knotpe04 1 year ago
@knotpe04 Por suerte esta quedando atras esa historia y argentina crece pero esta vez crece el empleo y no solo el bolsillo de los que mas tienen, con CFK argentina esta recuperando la igualdad tan debastada durante los 90's. :)
INIGUEZELI 1 year ago
the usual suspects: Citibank [Citigroup], JP Morgan, Credit Suisse. Bankers always behind fu*king things up economically. They have a proven track record.
Gizziiusa 1 year ago
Why does this sound like the same highway that is being followed by the United States?
1chichimec1 1 year ago
@1chichimec1 Globalization.They call it that name.
drtony1068 1 year ago
why the fuk would u have 7 kids in the first place
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1 why the fuck would bankers destroy a country?
wimmyroadisback 1 year ago
@wimmyroadisback well u shouldnt have 7 kids. bankers do what bankers do. especially if ur busy having 7 kids, and not - protecting ur financial interest. OF COURSE they gonna steal/destroy. if you let em. lol. so go ahead and have 7 kids, then watch them die.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
I don't think you understand. In the third world its not like in the first world where the govt has social security and medical care and all kinds of pension sh&t waiting for you at retirement. They have nothing. So they have to rely on their children to support them. 2 or 3 will probably die at a young age. Hence the reason there is financial incentive to have kids.
Its no coincidence that as living standards go up, the number of children go down.
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac no , i actually understand a lot better than u think i do, that's why gypsies are so despised ,because actually argentina is 2nd world and in the 2nd world they do have government helping out and the middle class which makes wages that in the US are below poverty (and theres a difference in standart ofc) ,but they feel like they are doing all the work and these guys that are goin around fukin everyone and gettin themselfs pregnant with 15 kids at 14, i mean... WHAT DO U EXPECT.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac do i understand it enough ,or should i reiterate
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and that's why i too can see that perspective ,because although the situation sucks ,who got theirself in that situation? they did. the fact that the bankers rob u, well u get into a casino and u play blackjack ,ur gonna loose ,and the casino is playing by the rules. their rules. i mean come on,where do people get off. and u have 10 babies and watch them die,because thats ur only way of seeing 50. because u want them to continue the great life u had. okay.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1 Its easy to be talking when you are living well in a foreign country. Put you in the same situation and your prespectives will change.
People in the 3rd world are not involved in casino games with banks. Rather banks game the system via the Federal Reserve by ripping people off with fiat money. Americans are now getting a taste of how banking goons pass their losses onto suckers by bribing politicians.
What will you do when they blame you for not feeding your 2 children?
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac how do you know how i'm living, and Where im living for that matter. you don't know me. and we're not talkin about me anyway. we're talkin about this situation. im not defending banks, to the contrary. im not saying anything against the children either. that's what some people on here didnt get. im saying previous generations are STUPID ,thats how people get conned anyway. con men are bad, but thats a given. and they should be persecuted and charged for their crimes.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac what i am saying is that if i lived in a place like this. and if i couldnt feed myself. i would NOT consider it holy to have 7 kids, alright? i would consider it a sin. we are all a part of this system, we are all affected by inflation. not every one of us is that stupid to be making 7 kids ,and some of us like u said live in better places. so whats wrong with u people not recognizing the fact that these guys dont deserve pity. their kids might, but not them.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
These people were able to afford kids until banking crooks reduced their nation to poverty. Are only rich banking crooks who rip off the productive class of society allowed to have kids? Post collapse, Argentina has booted out these banking crooks and bounced back economically.
I'm afraid telling a person who's been victimiized by robbery that its their fault they got robbed is nonsense. Bankers do no real work other than act as scamming middlemen.
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac how is it that its your first language that im speakin in ,yet u dont seem to get it. which part of well everything i said didnt u get. see, stupidity ,as in this case is universal, doesnt matter if u live in argentina or canada. the point being u can make stupid mistakes either way and be equally as guilty sometimes for being conned as the con artist. although i dont think that most people deserve to be conned , a stupid man is soon parted with its money. law of nature, society.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
They were able to afford kids until banking crooks ripped them off. You'd be able to afford food until banking crooks rip you off Then you can call your parents idiots for having u. A thief in an elevator isn't "smart" for stabbing u and stealing your wallet anymore than you are stupid for getting stabbed.
The world isn't the private enterprise of banking crooks who do no work but live off other peoples efforts.
Can we first execute kids of banking crooks please ?
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac "who do no work but live off other peoples efforts." is a lot of people.
yes, id be calling my parents idiots if they had 7 kids, you are correct, because they cant afford 7 kids.
i dont think i even excused the bankers, all i said was if people cared that much before shtf , they would've learned enough about it, educated themselves and stood up against it. are u saying people killing other people in ovens because it was ordered /ww2/ were completely innocent and deserved only pity.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
7 kids, 1 kid what's the difference? Your parents would be idiots for having you if banking crooks ripped them off as per your logic.
No matter how "educate" you imagine yourself to be, most are powerless to fight banking crooks. They hijacking govt machinery through bribery and use it as a shield behind which they perpetrating their scams.
Despite so called educated people in the US, not a single banking crook has landed in jail for the current economic fiasco.
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac "educate"? didnt get that one.
I imagine myself to be very "educate" actually.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac And i don't give a single fuck about US bankers. And i don't understand where you get off on this stupid illogical blabber. Guess ,never.
"most are powerless to fight banking crooks"
Yes, ignorant people similar to yourself are not. That's why everyone would be picking your pocket while you're having your eight kid. I hope you guys have a great life, just remember society doesnt owe you anything, so dont cry on camera too much, aint productive.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
I think you ramble too much without actually making any points.
You are in no position to change any banking-govt crooked nexus. They can steal from you and the rest of society at will. When they do, you have to call your parents idiots for having you.
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac i think ur projecting, because ur the one not making any sense, if people are in no position to make a change,they are slaves, if they are slaves and you admit that you are a slave, then you are weak for allowing yourself to be a slave and to not do anything about it. im sure ur projecting about the parents too. i will never call my parents simply because of weakness. if it's my battle to fight, i will fight alone and learn along the way. and when times call for it i will choose the
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac i will choose the brightest and the most hard working to come along for the ride.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and either way ,my whole argument is not what you're commenting on, ur commenting on ur same old bulshit story that u have goin on in ur head. ur just an idiot. i really think ur parents were too. sorry,but ur useless.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and they are stupid ,because they dont give a shit. just like in the US with their hamburgers and huge-bellies and braindead psychology. this is how one generation of not giving a fuk or being corrupt leads to next generation of pitiful slugs that look and think like they arent thinking, or eating for that matter. its easy to defend them ,because they were "trapped" by marketing and syntetic flavour, but they acted like slaves and now they are. so are u.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
You are rambling without making sense again.
Argentina was a middle income country prior to banking crooks ripping them off. The people could definately afford their kids. Once the ripoff occured, it became a poor country.
My suggestion is that since you acknowledge this ripoff, shouldn't banking crooks be the first to be sterilized so they don't have any (more) children. I mean they are a proven nusiance to the planet. Can you kick off the sterelization drive asap?
orangedac 1 year ago
@orangedac This is getting ridiculous. I will bet you any amount they could not have been able to afford 7 kids, ur generalising when we're talkin about a specific family "they the people can afford" ,yeah, no they can't.
And then you're changing the subject and chant about bankers again. I told you, of course the bankers are "guilty" ,its not even a question. if u cant say anything that makes sense ,discontinue this.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac I dont want anyone sterilized and i think that in an ideal world everyone would be having as many kids as they want, just a thousand kids for everyone ,u no , overpopulate the entire galaxy , i dont care. we're not in an ideal world thou , and part of it is because of stupid people like you and them and yeah the bankers too. but you are in the billions and they are in the tens and hundreds. so what is ur problem?
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1
Nah I'd first like to see a keyboard warrior like yourself walk into a bank and try to sterilize a few banking crooks. So how about it. I mean sh&t you sure have a big mouth when it comes to telling people who have been ripped off how stupid they were to have kids. So how about putting that bravado to good use and cutting off the nuts of a few crooks who're stealing from society.
When are you going to sterillize a banking crook? Could you give me a date and time please.
orangedac 1 year ago
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lol. you're funny.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac 7 kids, 1 kid ,that shows just how ignorant u are, there's a HUGE difference. they couldnt raise THEMSELVES (EVEN BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENED) ,let alone 1 kid, let alone SEVEN FRIKKIN KIDS (LET ALONE AFTER OR DURING TURMOIL). idiot.
now u talk about ur beloved bankers.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and my parents have already raised me, and i think i can make a change in the world or/and for myself . there's a huge difference.
the problem is theres a huge amount of baggage on changing the world because previous generations were so uneducated and acted like sheep and animals.
by the way, read all my comments and read them carefully, you're missing points and not making sense when ur tlakin about somethign i have already adressed.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and i dont want to execute kids, i hope i never have to.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and "The world isn't the private enterprise of banking crooks"
that's actually not true. yes ,it is.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac lets say it again ,that what they are guilty of is stupidity, and cruelty against their children. and no, they were NOT able to afford 7 kids. not 7. dunno bout kids, but never 7. ever.
ever. unless u specifically want to live like this, in which case u shouldnt be complaining. again - s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y.
plain and simple
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@orangedac and ur last question , i have answered already. i would not even consider making 2 kids just because i couldnt handle it psychologically right now, neither emotional , and maybe even financially. i couldnt send 2 kids to college , and deal with work and this crysis and a wife. no ,thank you. this is a timeframe i would consider it a sin for anyone to be having kids, unless they are a millionaire and have everything figured out or most of it anyway.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1 that's not the point though. The point is that the kids are there already and they are hungry.
shootcocacola73 1 year ago
@shootcocacola73 its exactly the point.
if people werent so DUMB and took out ARM's and whatever mortgages and let gov take over THEIR savings, THEIR rights. If THEY didnt SELL OUT ,their CHILDREN wouldnt be suffering, THEIR children wouldnt be hungry, THEIR children wouldnt be out there fighting wars for the landlords, paying off THEIR debt to the slavemasters.
So it is the point.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
You cant cut ur arm off and blame the knife ,coz it hurts.
7 kids? give me a fuking break.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@Yamakashi1 - Any human being on the planet would gladly give you a break or two if they could find you bro..
Isn't it time to find anouther place to troll? .
IronicallyVague 1 year ago
@IronicallyVague are you.. ironically vague?
lololoollololo
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@IronicallyVague and i will gladly shatter ur little head if u think that these parents are right to do this to their own children and to society. i will gladly watch you suffer in the coming crash too.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@shootcocacola73 the fact that they had the innocent kids makes them even more guilty. they didnt choose that life, and they wont have a lot to change their situation ,or society for that matter , for the better. therefore its the parents that had been the most irresponsible trough the entire time, even when they were being robbed, althou not specifically this family, thats living off the grid.
see , im not hatin on them, its just how things are. people should accept the truth before change occ
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
Seria bueno recordar que la Segunda Guerra Mundial, es una guerra entre gobiernos electos: Alemania Nazi, Italia fascista y La Tirania Japonesa, eran gobiernos votados por el pueblo.. el Peronismo tiene la misma raiz de esos gobiernos criminales,
lorddinaire 1 year ago
I wish Argentinians were Muslim; they would not have fallen for any of these falsehoods. Religion (catholicism would not have been the opium of the masses, but a force for social justice-Jihad)
Ariadamus 1 year ago
@Ariadamus i dont know about that. muslims arent that smart. think i preffer no religion ,canon, or cults where i live. its best.
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
todo bien los que tienen la culpa pero yo tambien me pregunto el tipo comienza diciendo que tiene no uno ni dos sino que TIENE 7 HIJOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POR QUE CARAJO TIENEN TANTOS? LOS FORROS SON GRATIS HIJOS DE PUTA ESOS 7 CHICOS SON 7 POBRES MAS!!!!. POR FAVOR TENGAN UN POCO DE CABEZA!
marianoarenaza 1 year ago 2
@marianoarenaza tené cabeza vos SIMIO! a una persona ignorante por culpa del estado le vas a pedir que sepa cuidarse para no tener muchos hijos?? te pensás que se acercaban hasta esos lugares a regalar forros salame? si estas cosas nos pasaron en el país es porque hay mucha gente que tiene la misma mentalidad que vos. Me das verguenza como argentino
minicname 1 year ago
@minicname pero te pensas que no saben!? recontra saben como se hace para cuidarse. en que barrio remilgado de bs as vivis. yo fui a la escuela publica y tube como especialidad en la salud, y sin embargo tenia 2 compañeras embarazadas. en mi colegio estaban todos desde el mas rico al mas pobre... esas 2 pendejas no digamos que se cagaron la vida pero que se la complicaron bastante es seguro
marianoarenaza 1 year ago
@marianoarenaza yo me crié en Lanús y por eso hablo con conocimiento de causa. rodeado de villas (caraza, fiorito, etc). No me corrás con giladas de barrio. Seguí encerrado en tu cubo pero no desparramés tu poca lucidez por la web si podés. Saludos
minicname 1 year ago
@marianoarenaza ahora son gratis....
Nemxxi 1 year ago
@marianoarenaza Precupes sobre IMF, solo. Ellos son el adversarios de todos en las personas. Ellos son culebras.
TenderTrap86 4 months ago
Como cambiaste Carrio...
sas147741 1 year ago 3
@sas147741 viste!!! yo no lo puedo creer
la preferia con el crucifijo mas grnade q su cabeza
nachocolegiales 1 year ago
I notice the Bank are all the same suspects involved in the current U.S. Obama mess.
politicalsheepdog 1 year ago 25
@politicalsheepdog yes, I read somewhere that obama was a key actor in the real estate bubble too.
BR177 1 year ago
as far as I know, he supported the CRA that was mainly responsable for the housing bubble.
manoman0 1 year ago
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@BR177 how is he a "key actor in the real estate bubble too." when
Yamakashi1 1 year ago
@politicalsheepdog Yes, But will the americans GIVE everyting the the banks like the Argintines? These guys didnt even fight and when they did, it was too late..!
sovern009 1 year ago
@politicalsheepdog Yes, they control the money internationally . Watch the documentary Inside Job - it is an education .
doogleandalix 6 months ago
Why are he people in the story looking to government to help them? It's clear the government doesn't give a rats ass about their people.
politicalsheepdog 1 year ago 11
....well observed, I had the same thought...
manoman0 1 year ago
@politicalsheepdog probably because all their resources were sold off to corporations. a bit hard to fend for yourself when you don't have anything.
sjhill87ish 9 months ago
@sjhill87ish Yes you are right. Government owned companies were working well for Argentina. I don't know why they messed with something that wasn't broken. Of course it was individual corruption and greed of the politicians. They should have been shot for what they did.
politicalsheepdog 9 months ago
zionistas al trabajo...
mispistoleros 2 years ago
somos unos pelotudos! lo peor es qeu se siguen postulando a manejar el pais... y se los siguen votando cuando aca vamos a aprender los argentinos en que nos tenemos que poner los huevos para hacer que los putos gobiernos difiendan realmente nuestros derechos? cuantos muertos de habre necesitamos? cuantoas empresas mas tenemos que vender? cuantas millones de hc tenemos que darle a lo choros de los empresarios multinacionales para que nos demos cuenta lo pelotudos que somos!!!
PIENSENNNNN!!!!
ernytopetrelli 2 years ago 4
I think the rolling stones were invited to play the 'once you start me up, i'll never never gonna stop',
damn monkeys,
thank you for posting these videos
MohammadX101 2 years ago
es increible tanta infamia contra el pueblo, lo mismo pasa en Mexico ... revolucion en 2010!!!!
Aguilarealenvuelo 2 years ago
Si es cierto. Por eso a partir de ahora hay que dejar de ser PELOTUDOS y PENSAR a la hora de votar. Yo ya elegí presidente para 2011 y se llama PINO SOLANAS, vos?
astrosebas77 2 years ago 3
igual!
pirufihho 2 years ago 3
@astrosebas77 Me parece bien como cineasta e investigador el trabajo de Pino,pero no es una persona idonea para manejar un pais...se necesita alguien inteligente,con conocimientos en economía y conocimientos en planificación...tiene que ser el "elegido"
Argiespowers 2 years ago
Mira, lo importante es que para el 2011 Proyecto Sur pueda obtener la máxima representación parlamentaria posible... por eso hay que acompañarlos a como de lugar... son los únicos que están pensando y forzando a la clase política "tradicional" a discutir temas impostergables!!!
astrosebas77 2 years ago
@astrosebas77 Yo te soy sincero...proyecto sur a mi me parece cualquier cosa....no me parece un proyecto serio.
Argiespowers 2 years ago
En que te basas? Ten'es alg'un ejemplo dentro de la pol'itica Argentina actual relacionado con un proyecto superador de pa'is, o como m'inimo, que sea lo que sea pero al menos "serio"...? Yo creo que son todos impresentables... y que PS es la 'unica fuerza pol'itica con los huevos suficientes para discutir las cosas importantes... es mi opini'on nom'as, espero tu feedback.
astrosebas77 2 years ago
@astrosebas77 Si,usan las viejas recetas ya antes vistas,todo manos del estado,no habla nada sobre como para la inflación...muy "alfonsinista"...es un desastre,sinceramente...
Argiespowers 2 years ago
Claro, hace falta gente preparada, con muchos conocimientos como Martinez de Hoz o Cavallo.
Pino Solanas Justamente SIRVE por estar preparado con la escuela de la calle y la VERDAD, no en Oxford al servicio del capital extrangero que te cuenta el versito de lo que es la sabiduria o no.
Sino fijate lo que le paso cuando vos seguramente estabas comprando pelotudeces en el 1 a 1)
Yo soy Porte~o y estoy HARTO de los nenes que opinan del pais desde Avenida Cabildo.
fedeminiciUK 2 years ago
@fedeminiciUK Escuela de la calle? despues te quejas de que las cosas anden mal? vos no te podes quejar de nada luego...estudía donde sea, mientras sea economia.Dá proyectos concretos...sumá,restá,usá numeros,basta de falcias "Pino sirbe porque esta preparado con la escuela de la calle" 3er mundo...bien ahi...mostrá que almenos somos un pais en desarrollo,no uno desarrollado para siempre...una palabra..BRASIL..
Argiespowers 2 years ago
A ver... Mi opinión, sin peleas. 1) Que los recursos ESTRATEGICOS y los SERVICIOS públicos sean manejados por el estado es lo que hacen TODOS los países SERIOS. En los '90 nos metieron el cuento de que privatizando todo se salvaba el país... pero hay cosas que no se pueden vender como los recursos naturales, o si se privatizan tiene que hacerse un contrato JUSTO para el estado. 2) Pino no es de la "escuela de la calle", de donde sacaron eso? Es un tipo inteligentísimo...
astrosebas77 1 year ago
... que se viene preparando hace años para ser una alternativa de centroizquierda viable en la Argentina. Fijate en Brasil, por ejemplo, que vos mencionas... el petróleo es estatal? Si. En México: también... el cobre en Chile? El estado participa fuertemente de las ganancias, es decir, es socio... nosotros regalamos todo y subsidiamos encima... eso es así... el transporte era mejor antes que ahora, y ahora encima pagamos... no se trata de estatizar todo... sólo lo que realmente importa...
astrosebas77 1 year ago
3) Pino en los '90 evito la privatización de la Comisión Nacional de Energía Atómica (te imaginas un país sin poder decidir sobre su investigación nuclear, o sus fuentes de energía? porque si se privatizaba CNEA, también se vendía Atucha y la central de Córdoba por ej). También Menem quería vender Yaciretá para hacer un negociado y venderle a Brasil energía, con la crisis energética cerca!! Las centrales nucleares en Francia o Alemania son privadas? No... ok, muchos saludos...
astrosebas77 1 year ago
@astrosebas77 Bueno...dale,tomemos lo del primer mundo,me encantó,muy bueno tu analisis lo cual es todo cierto,aca nadie esta a favor sobre los 90,ahora,cual es el problema? hablamos de seguridad? hablamos de inversion?,si tomamos al pimer mundo tomemos todo,no solo la parte que queremos...corta la calle en Francia...matá a alguien en alemania,violá en Italia,robá en Londres... ahí fijate...
Argiespowers 1 year ago
@astrosebas77 Cuando estube a favor de los 90?? osea quien critica el hecho de que haya cosas en manos del estado?...yo critico que todo sea en manos del estado y si lo quieren hacer,esta bien,pero que tiren soluciones,inflacion?? desigualdad?? competitividad?? como reducimos la burocracia?? como podemos aumentar las exportaciones???...aca nadie me dijo todavia.."Pino habla de como aumentar las exportaciones"...el tipo no sirbe!! como lo pueden entender?? es un Alfonsín!!
Argiespowers 1 year ago
Buenas, yo no dije que estabas a favor de los 90. Simplemente estaba haciendo mi análisis. Entonces estamos de acuerdo que no hay que estatizar todo, sólo lo que es necesario para el desarrollo del país de manera tal que es estado pueda disponer de los recursos... y eso es lo que plantea PS. También tienen un plan para recomponer
la economía y, podés o no estar de acuerdo, se basa esencialemente en la recuperación de la renta petrolera.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
Por otro lado, si te fijas en las bases de PS podés encontrar como piensan recuperar la economía incentivando a las pequeñas y medianas empresas. Respecto de la seguridad, yo creo que el objetivo fundamental es hacer cumplir la ley, y eso es algo que forma parte de sus bases. Por lo tanto no veo inconveniente en que se apliquen políticas de seguridad de acuerdo con las leyes, y que se presenten proyectos de ley para cambiar las que hagan falta.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
No estoy diciendo que Pino y PS sean perfectos pero lamentablemente en este momento en nuestro país a la única fuerza política que veo con la seriedad y la fuerza para hacer llevar a cabo un proyecto de país es PS y por eso tienen mi apoyo. Acordate que Lula al comienzo fue un sindicalista y dirigente social vapuleado por todos y que compitió y perdió varias veces antes de llegar a la presidencia.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
Porqué no darle oportunidad a gente realmente patriota en Arg, porqueésiempre UCR o PJ (ya sabemos como nos dejaron). No hay ánimo de pelea, sólo intercambio de opinión, los dos somos Args y queremos lo mejor para el país. Yo creo que hoy lo mejor es Proyecto Sur, de hecho es el primer partido político en mi vida que me dió esperanzas en el futuro... una cosita más hasta donde yo sé los Franceses son my combativos en sus huelgas... acá sólo hay que hacer cumplir la ley, bue, saludos.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
@astrosebas77 Sinceramente...estas logrando convencerme...eso que es jodido.
Argiespowers 1 year ago
astrosebas77 Una pregunta. Supongamos que un dìa gana alguien incorruptible, con pelotas y con la lucidez suficiente como para comprender que està sentado en el sillòn de Rivadavia porque Nosotros lo pusimos ahì. ¿Còmo lo mantenemos en el poder, còmo lo cuidamos? Porque los peronistas y radicales van a poner el pais de cabeza con tal de recuperar el poder y todos sabemos que eso es asì.
InamberI 1 year ago
Aca gobierna el mas Pesado y cuando el mas Pesado pierde, hace caer al elegido el cual luego, queda en la memoria colectiva como el "inutil que no fue capaz de culminar su mandato"
InamberI 1 year ago
Es verdad lo que decís, de hecho ya ha pasado, Illia el más claro ejemplo, aunque en ese caso desplazado por un golpe de estado, pero lo que no comparto es la desesperanza. Otra realidad es posible y depende, en parte, de todos nosotros. Lo peor que podemos hacer como Argentinos es resignarnos a sufrir. Esta lleno de ejemplos en la historia Argentina de personas que no se rindieron y que generaron cosas importantes sobre las cuales hoy nos sostenemos. Es mentira que todo esta perdido.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
A mi modo de ver se trata más de cambiar nuestra idiosincracia como sociedad que otra cosa. Pensá que el mismo Peronismo en sus comienzos fue una causa popular que no era apoyada por el establishment. Y esta a la vista que se impusieron, aunque lamentablemente se han tergiversado sus bases sociales. El cambio cultural es posible, llevará tiempo y perseverancia pero es algo que todos debemos encarar, en nosotros y nuestro entorno. No por resignación le allanaré el camino a los traidores.
astrosebas77 1 year ago
@InamberI Estoy de acuerdo. Democracia deliberativa, la solución
LAVB432 1 year ago
nos traicionaron...nos humillaron,se rieron de nosotros,seas comunista o nacionalista...todos hemos sido traicionados
Argiespowers 2 years ago
Los odio, los odioooo.............Malditos, malditos los q comercian a costa de los pueblos..........los voy a matar a todos hijos de puta..........Menem te voy a ir a buscar y te voy a matar.lentamente............hasta q te mueras sin comida como los pobres de TU PAIS y el mio. HDP!!!!!!!!
fedenuza 2 years ago 4
Bloody hell!
This is insane!
I hope the Argentinian people get justice for this.
stuntpea 2 years ago 33
I hope it to. Thank you for your support.
sebatorress 1 year ago
@stuntpea hope is the blind that creates apathy. I hope all people band together kill all bankers, officials, and anyone else who would kill the people and return the world to one worth living in for all. Global oppression requires global action.
CyberAthletethefirst 1 year ago
Wtf!! The Rolling Stones! LOL!!
Man! This is so much like the U.S. it hurts to watch. Like Obama on the cover of Spiderman! Celebrity politicians are the worst! At least Bush was openly evil..........
Pymander81 2 years ago 3
this is the future of the united states.A country that sold his sovereignty in order to pay his debt.A corrupt country unable of reform, conquered by the international banks and foreign powers.
sakura936 2 years ago 21
Capitalism is an utopia, just like communism. There is no such thing as free market, it never existed, anywhere on planet!
BalkanibalX 2 years ago 3
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Don't you think you never should have 7 kids? Like fucking rats ... 'i have nothing' ...
aslomski 2 years ago
someone without education dont have sexual education either. Besides, many of those women are constantly abused and raped by their husbands, boyfriends or other men, they dont choose to get pregnant. So please dont speak if you dont know how it is
spikaia 2 years ago
degenerate minion. Who's boots do u lick fatboy?
squidcreek 2 years ago
fuck capitalism
unltd679 2 years ago
The privatization explained in this video is not against free market capitalism. If you were paying attention to the videos the companies were sold to foreign nations. Iberia (spain) bought the airlines. (Spain) bought the oil. France bought the telecomunications. This is what they mean by privitization. Selling what belonged to the Argentines to foreigners. Kind of what Obama is doing right now to American Industries (Chrysler = Fiat)!
nef2442 2 years ago 3
No, fuck Corporatism. We have not had a true Capitalist system for a very long time, because Corporatism has dominated. Corporatism is not about free markets, it about feudalistic control over the people by an elite minority. You remove Corporatism from the picture, and I guarantee, Capitalism will begin to work again.
Pymander81 2 years ago
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be more specific in your answer joker.
nr before we go further; you admit the fed reserve is a huge problem, and you admit the fed reserve is owned by rich jewish elite? yes or no? dont try to talk around it. if you're honest on this one we will discuss further, otherwise I will educate the readers and forget about you.
dutchfreedoms 2 years ago
dutchfreedoms - I don't know how this good posting got marked as "spam" and closed, but I upvoted it, and clicked "not spam" for whatever effect that may have. :-)
nameofthepen 2 years ago
Israel controle the US
- financial syste, (fed reserve)
- 95% of the mainstream media
- important positions in all governments
- US income taxes from americans go to israel
- US soldiers fight wars for israel
who wrote the patriot act?
who's behind the USS Liberty attack on the USA
Lavon affair...
just do the research yourself, it is plain and simple truth, dont take my word, find out yourself.
dutchfreedoms 2 years ago
@dutchfreedoms
"- 95% of the mainstream media"
You've got to stop with this bullshit. Is Rupert Murdoch a Jew, is Ted Turner a Jew? No. It's nothing to do with the Jewish faith, it's to do with the rich, doesn't matter if the rich are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, etc...
blahdelablah 2 years ago
be more specific in your answer joker.
nr before we go further; you admit the fed reserve is a huge problem, and you admit the fed reserve is owned by rich jewish elite? yes or no? dont try to talk around it. if you're honest on this one we will discuss further, otherwise I will educate the readers and forget about you.
dutchfreedoms 2 years ago
@dutchfreedoms
I've just answered some of this in the comments for part 6 of 12 of this video series. The ownership of the Fed is a secret but it is likely to contain some/most Jewish people. Their faith is irrelevant though, there are plenty of good Jewish people, the fact that some people have that title and do some bad shit is not a reflection on the whole faith, ya get me? (P.S. I'm not Jewish).
blahdelablah 2 years ago
the fed is owned by jewish elite, end of story. nice try.
dutchfreedoms 2 years ago
@dutchfreedoms
If you're so confident about who runs the Fed now (not in the past, right now), name these people. Bet you can't.
blahdelablah 2 years ago
So, blahdelablah - how's this for rich foreign jew owners of the Fed?
Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers Banks of Paris; Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy; Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Brothers of New York; Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York; Chase Manhatten; and Goldman, Sachs of New York
Now it's your turn. Go find out who owns those middle-management shell-corporations and you'll have your answer. But I doubt you'll like it. :-)
nameofthepen 2 years ago
@nameofthepen
Great, so you know the names of some bankers. Now point me to the document that lists those same people as running the Fed. Can't do it can you.
blahdelablah 2 years ago
blahdelablah - your name is well-earned. You waste everyone's time. Can't be bothered with someone who denies there is an elephant in the room.
nameofthepen 2 years ago
@nameofthepen
I only question you because your logic seems flawed. The Jewish faith does not state 'you must enslave the world through banking', the fact many powerful bankers are Jewish is just a consequence of history, just like how European culture became the dominant one worldwide. I do not object to criticism of the banking elite, in fact I do think the banking elite are a bad influence on the world, but what I do object to is any statement that suggests they are driven by their Jewishness.
blahdelablah 2 years ago
In re: he take-over of America by jews:
"At first, by controlling the banking system we were able to control corporation capital.
"Through this, we acquired total monopoly of the movie industry, the radio networks and the newly developing television media.
"The printing industry, newspapers, periodicals and technical journals had already fallen into our hands."
--Harold W. Rosenthal, former admin ass't to one of America's ranking senators, Jacob Javits R-NY
The jews say it - not me.
nameofthepen 2 years ago
@namrofthepen
Interesting quote, but you still seem to be missing my point. If I walked up to a Jewish person in the street and asked them to talk to me about what was going on in the Fed I am much more likely to get a blank expression. It's not a Jewish thing it's an controlling elite thing, the fact that the controlling elite (this is the 'we' Rosenthal was referring to in your quote) come from a certain background is for historical reasons, not religious reasons.
blahdelablah 2 years ago
blahdelablah - no, I understand your point perfectly. It is exactly what they would have you believe.
"Most Jews throughout the world, I'd say more than 90%, know what is really happening to our people. We have communication unequaled anywhere...
"On the first and fundamental lie, the purpose of which is to make people believe that we are not a nation but a religion, other lies are subsequently based."
--Harold Rosenthal, jew, admin ass't to Sen. Jacob Javits, R-NY
nameofthepen 2 years ago
Addendum: blahdelablah, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, when asked who/where the bail-out money went, and did it actually end up in foreign countries, answered, and I quote:
"We don't know."
Do you believe him?
nameofthepen 2 years ago
@nameofthepen
No, I don't believe Bernanke regarding the bail-out money, I do not trust the ruling elite in general, but I do not suspect Bernanke does what he does for any higher purpose than greed and power. The bail-out money is much more likely to have lined the pockets of rich businessmen (regardless of their nationality) than to have gone to one country in particular.
blahdelablah 2 years ago
The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad.
"The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies.
-Hitler
nameofthepen 2 years ago
The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists.
-J. Edgar Hoover
blahdelablah - I was you, 14 months ago. In one way, this has been the most unpleasant year of my life.
For it has been thousands of hours of learning REAL history. And believe me...it is worse than you can imagine.
I'm not a racist. I'm a demoralized realist.
nameofthepen 2 years ago