Gene and Paul should have just left the old KISS alone. Why put the fans through this? Die hard fans are not going to see them. I won't watch another tour with the same set list they have been using for 15 years. I used to like them because they were a rock band. Now it a business. Gene's vocals are terrible (when he can remeber his lines). Go listen to the old stuff and you be the judge. The nerve to say Ace played at the "Club" level. Hey Gene! Listen to you...ouch!
Gene and Paul are doing more damage to KISS' image than Ace and Peter ever did in the 70's.
It is getting more pathetic every day. What is next? Tommy Thayer signing his autograph "Ace Frehley"? Will he draw an ace of hearts card with it like Ace does? Is he gonna AWK! during interviews? Can he do his laugh? Does he have his social security # ?
Perhaps the so called "real Kiss fans" would have liked to have seen Vinnie Vincent in Ace's costume and makeup, singing "Shock Me", or Eric Carr as Peter Criss singing "Beth", tell all of us that are disgusted at whats happening now, that you would have been happy with that....NO?....well then why accept this?
Let Singer and Thayer invent their own characters and be themselves, I think EVERYONE would be happy with that..breath new life and interest into Kiss.
So how would Kiss fans react if Ace sang God of Thunder (Gene's signature song) and spewed blood? or put himself and his band in makeup to look like Gene, Paul and Peter? There would be cries of "pathetic", "rubbish" and "bullshit", but this is what Kiss are doing, and thats fine?
It would be amazing if Ace dressed his band as Paul and Gene! Ha! But of course KISS would sue his ass. This 'new' KISS is just a glorified tribute band. I dig Tommy as a player but we ain't getting to hear him play, just copy Ace's licks from 30 years ago. Sad all around...
dont mind him playing ace's song, i just dont like it when people say how much better he is? i dont understand how he can be better if he's playing the same thing and not even note for note either. people nick pick too much on the kiss issues its like they woke up one day and had a fit because they found out their super hero's were real people with real problems and act like they got cheated. Only bad though about the new tour is the same ol songs.
For everybody who wants Peter back in the band -- did you SEE any of the shows he played from '96-'03?! J-O-K-E. Get over the original line-up already, people -- it CANNOT and WILL NOT function anymore.
i thought peter did fine during 97 reunion, but after that seemed to not give a shit.. but he didnt play near as well as he did in the 70s. its pretty sad he never kept his chops and practiced to keep his talent alive.
Ace is performing stuff that he didn't originally sing on, like Love Gun(written and sang by Paul) and Deuce(written mostly by Gene). Where's the uproar about THAT?
The songs are all part of KISStory, regardless of who sings them.
Guys, i don't like this as much as anyone else BUT KISS is a nostalgia act now. Everybody wants to see the four ICONS known to them which is: Star, Demon, Cat, SpaceMAN, not necessarily SpaceACE. And, remember, Ace is singing Lovegun and a bunch of other KISS songs on his U.S. tour right now. So, if you want Tommy to stop singing Shock Me, get Ace to quit singing Lovegun and all the other KISS songs.
Warthogfan is right, what happend to respect. Maybe if Gene would agree to spliting profits down the middle, treat them like band MEMBERS and friends, and let them have a say in what they helped create in the first place, we'd have the real Ace and Peter in the band, instead of the fake rubbish this is. So much for Kiss fans standing up for what they believe in, Gene tells you Kiss are here for the fans, the fans are their boss....well if thats the case, Gene....YOUR FIRED.
Well, I disagree. Peter and Ace were stupid enough to not stand for the band and probably they thought the band was nothing without them. Wrong. Paul and Gene were smart enough to treasure what they created and make money out of it. Don't tell me about magic because this doesn't exist. All of them are there for the money. You can see that at the Reunion Tour when they accepted to be back. To criticize from outside is so easy...
ticket sales show that some Kiss fans are willing to accept anything. Hands up who will accept Kiss without Gene or Paul or both....yeah I didn't think so. Welcome to the first concert of the "ALIVE KISS DIED" tour.
i've got no problem with Tommy or Eric being in the band. Yeah sure, Ace and Peter left etc..etc... but the problem is , if Ace and Peter were such fuck ups why would Gene and Paul insist on dressing up Tommy and Eric to look like them...Its a cheap shot to get more bucks..The spaceman and catman were created by Ace and Peter..Aaarrrgggh!!! Give Tommy and Eric their own persona's..They will NEVER repeat the magic that is classic '70's KISS no matter how hard they try.
I'm so confused. I thought Tommy did a fantastic job. Sure it's Ace's sig song, but I doubt we'll ever see his face around here again and it's a great song to sing along to live, so somebody's gotta sing it. Do you think it's blasphemous that he wears Ace's make-up too?
As bad as it gets....how low can this band go so soon. The pathetic performance on the footy show, tommy singing shock me, paul saying he wants to be replaced, paul selling his painting while on tour...i have been a Kiss fan for years, got laughed at school for liking them in the 80's and early 90's...now Im laughing at this band now. Over and out!!!
As bad as it gets....how low can this band go so soon. The pathetic performance on the footy show, tommy singing shock me, paul saying he wants to be replaced, paul selling his painting while on tour...i have been a Kiss fan for years, got laughed at school for liking them in the 80's and early 90's...now Im laughing at this band now. Over and out!!!
I don't get how they've ruined anything. If you don't like what they're doing now, fine. But it doesn't take anything away from the fact that Alive is a great album,or take anything away from what the original lineup accomplished. But the ticket sales show that there's still a big demand for KISS in some markets.
Again, I'm more concerned with the stale setlist and stage design, than I am about the who's wearing what makeup.
Acekicken, you are spot on.....I'm done as well, this is pathetic.....hurry up and retire Kiss, before you completely ruin whats left of the Kiss legend.
true, he's mine as well, but does it really call for all this pointless flaming of tommy? If kiss asked you to join as the new spaceman, im sure you'd say yes, along with everybody else.
In a heart beat!!! And if they told me to sing Torpedo Girl..I would....were not blaming Tommy...its Gene & Paul...will I still go to the show?...Hell Yeah!!!
it wasnt so much you who were insulting tommy, but fetus was going wayyyy over the top before, as im sure you'll see, he's posted many times, all of which were very insulting. I'm happy to see that you can agree with me.
Some freinds in the music biz have said that Gene and Paul had Tommy sing Shock Me at the first show so that they can monitor fan reaction...to decide if they should push the envelope and have Eric sing Beth...dont laugh...he sang it at a couple of KISS conventions.
Great question..BUT...Tommy is singing Shock Me! The last time Eric sang Black Diamond was not in makeup!...I like Tommy.. he handed my 10 year old son 3 picks in one night...but he should not sing Shock Me!!!
Okay....by "Greedy Jews" i assume you mean Paul and Gene. Paul and Ace are best friends at this point, and apparently Ace isn't pissed off, or else, they would have been sued for the makeup rights now. KISS owns Aces makeup as well as Peters, if they wanted it bad enough, they could get the rights to it. As well as the songs. But, with Ace/KISS its a give/take relationship. Ace is doing KISS on his tour, so KISS can do whatever they want to. They're KISS they don't have to answer to us!!
yeah and the sad thing is i will go if they come to perth again but i was not paying all that money to fly east when i dont like tommy and i have no respect for gene its just all about the money and but pauls a legend and eric is cool
he s guitar signature is amazing ALIVE is a classic guitar album....He has written Rockn Roll all over him.....Made awesome kiss songs..He designed the logo he designed his makeup he designed Pauls makeup....Wait a minute Tommy has worked onthe kissology that makes him better than Ace........
It was called the "Farewell" tour for one reason and one reason only. If Kiss fans think that it's the last time they will see Kiss live they'll buy tickets like crazy, and they did. Thats all it was about, a marketing ploy. It will probably happen again, and fans will probably fall for it again.
Its actually Mrs, but anyway, beside the point, I'm saying it to anyone in particular, but some people here are hugely misinformed, basically I agree with what Newley64 just put down.
I know I wasn't around to see them in 1980, but from what I have seen from my era is that Kiss should have let the Farewell tour be the FAREWELL tour, I thought "Farewell" does usually imply you are going somewhere? Obviously not retirement like we all first thought!
Mrs.Strutter you make complete sence...I was at the Garden for Kiss' first show there in 1977..Im also the Kiss fan in Peters makeup on the "Donahue" show...and I'll be honest I enjoyed The Rock the Nation Tour...but Tommy should not be singing Shock Me!! If he sang Into the Void I would still be upset..but not as much.....
Spot on Newley! Glad it made sense to someone lol but Kiss has really turned onto a business more than a band now, and thats sad, but thats life, from what I can see they are just milking the fans for what they can while they can still do it and don't particuarly have any morals about it anymore, Ace has his signature make up and Peter has his, along with the songs, dispite who paid who what to use them, it's just respect which I am seeing an increasing lack of with all of this...
I read a quote from Ace recently and he said 'Tommy used be in a Kiss tribute band, oh wait, he still is'. What happens if Paul dies, is gene gonna bring a Paul-robot too.
All the DVD's would exist without Tommy, Gene will be releasing DVD's even after the band breaks up, which, thank god, won't be too far away, due to age if nothing else. I remember Gene during the re-union period, saying that it was so important to go out on top, so I guess he's changed his mind.
big fucking deal tommy put the second coming dvd and kissology dvds together i dont get why people give a fuck about people baging him when so called kiss fans fucking bag ace and peter
oh it wouldnt exist is that right so is that tommy in all that live footage well fuck me dead fuck and thought that was tommy only on kiss alive 4 and rock the nation in case you cant tell im being sarcastic
"Shock Me" is Ace's signature song, "Beth" is Peters signature song, but Kiss just can't let either Ace or Peter have anything left can they, take it all away from them, leave them with nothing, oh but thats o.k because the so called "true Kiss fans" seem to love the idea of sticking the boots into Ace or Peter any chance they get...."true Kiss fans" are disgusted with this.
So whats next....oh I know, put Eric Singer in Eric Carrs makeup for a few shows to give the fans something different. What would the so called Kiss fans think of that? Would that be acceptable as well? Hey Kiss, why not lose a few more fans and get Thayer to sing Talk to Me and New York Groove.....time for Kiss to retire before they wreck the legend completely.
A "true kiss fan" would know that without tommy, just about every kiss dvd wouldnt exist, and without tommy, The reunion itself probaably wouldnt have happened, or at least be delayed since ace couldnt remember his own solos.
If ignorance is bliss, then you must be orgasmic.
"Without tommy, just about every kiss dvd wouldn't exist" ??? Sorry, I'm not understanding you here - I have all three Kissology-s, about 13 DVDs worth of stuff, Ace is on 12 of them, and Tommy is on none of them. So what exactly are you referring to? (This isn't ball-breaking, I'm just trying to understand.)
Check the credits on the dvd's and you will see that Tommy Thayer didn't just "appear" into the Kiss scene when he appeared in the band, sometimes doing a little research never goes astray before shooting your mouth off ;)
now we can look forward to tommy singing all of the songs ace sings oh no fuck stop him make me feel better cmon and stop him im down to the bare wire it was not enough his in aces costume and makeup no he fucking has to sing his song as well new all time low well done gene and paul who run the kiss machine
Ace sings Deuce & Detroit @ his solo shows & makes a mess of them, yet no one complains about that. People whinge that Kiss don't mix up the set list, yet when they do, there's more complaints. Tommy is doing a far better job than Ace can nowadays.
tommy fucking sucks sucks sucks big fucking time stop him make me feel better oh yeah yeah yeah im down to the bare wire cmon and stop him make me feel better oh yeah yeah yeah
look you kiss lover twits. the problem isnt that some guy is singing sock me. the problem is that he in aces makeup. now if kiss is great and all then why dont let eric and tommy wear some new makeup? same costumes is ok but new makeup. it worked ok before so do it now and stop with ace and peter makeup to trick idiots in other parts of the world that this is the real kiss. with that said. this version of kiss sucks and is just plain boring now.
IMO, a bigger sin was the Ace/Pete imposters of the 70's. You know, the ones that appeared un-credited on the albums. But, I guess as long as it SAYS "peter Criss and Ace Frehley", the magic must've been there, right? With that said. I was disapointed to see the stage is the same yet again. Ironically, the stage sets were much more interesting and creative during the non-makeup years than they have been since the reunion. I only hope the song list is more diverse. But I fear it isn't.
most of you guys are immature idiots that freak out because ace QUIT the band and your all crying over it. Ace is solo now, if you wanna see him (which I adivice you do) then do that, stop shitting yourselves over kiss.
Tommy Thayer did a very good job singing shock me, and I'd like to see eric sing beth. Did everyone freak out when sammy hagar and david lee roth songs? Well?
Proof that MOST kiss fans arnt fans of kiss, only the original 4, This line up rocks!
I saw kiss 1980 1983 1984 1988 1992 1996 1997 1999 10 shows from this period and Ace Frehley 1995
11 april Astoria London Ace Frehley i cant wait..........Got my first record 1975....ALIVE.....AWESOME........YEH Thayer tryed to perform shock me in front of 65 000 retarded like you...
Relax man! First of all, do you expect KISS do make new costumes? C'mon...That wouldn't be right..ANyways, this tour is just for fun and they do not really need to do anything new apart from changing the set-list...But, Tommy singing SHock Me is very hard to swallow.
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
oh bullsh*t!...... Tommy is in the band now, and he is ALLOWED to sing ACE'S songs! NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! i allow that & i am a 33 year fan of KISS! so shut up!
please people!!!!!! tommy singing shock me, no more make up!!!!!!1!!!!!!please, the make with ace & peter is good, but tommy & eric no!!!!is time bruce kulick again in the band with eric(see kissology 3 detroit 92 brazil 94 the band very good and hot)and continue the kisstory......please gene no think in the money you have a lot of money, why more. i am kiss fans from argentina.
kissman 16 i take it your not fan of 70s era kiss because if you were you would not say such a stupid comment you a most likely a younger fan who grew up listing to kiss in this decade
Just because you don't like what I said, doesn't make it any less true. Oh, Ace wasn't drunk and didn't play shows drunk?? What reality do you live in??
Actually I like all eras of KISS and I've been a KISS fan for 30 years. But it's funny how acceptable it is to trash Tommy for no reason.
The cool thing about this is that after just one show, "Spaceman" Tommy Thayer just performed "Shock Me" in front of more people than Ace will on his entire solo tour. LOL
you must not respect the original lineup to say something so stupid they need to retire kiss paul has just said in an interview in australia that one day they could go on without him and they most likely will gene can never get enough money paul should just go solo and put out more albums his solo tour last year was fucking awesome
Eric and Tommy can play and sing circles around todays Ace and Peter. Singer is one hell of a rockdrummer. And Tommy is a very good guitarist for KISS.
Stop cryin about Ace & Peter. They had their chances, and fucked up!! If they were so good, they would still be around. But that's not the case.
tommy thayer fucking sucks and ace frehley and 70s era kiss rule thank god i saw alive worldwide 1996-1997 and the farewell tour in perth arr they were the days
Shame. Are you sure that you saw Kiss, or you saw 4 guy with Kiss make up doing a Kiss cover? This is NOT Ace Frehley singing this original Kiss' with Ace Frehley vocals song. Its a fake!
you guys need to get your heads out of your asses,eric was put in the makeup because criss left the band in the middle of the reunion tour so they had no choice but to put him in the makeup,frehley left just after the reunion tour and their where already plans made for a new tour so tommy was put in his costume and makeup,and with this video quality you can not judge how he really does it....
Tommy and Eric can both play no probs about that. But having them dressed as Ace and Peter is no good at all. Why stop there? Let;s get a younger Paul who can hit those high notes, and a young and hungry Gene like back in the ol' days! Give T and E new characters or take the make off boys! Its like Paul McCartney and Ringo reforming the Beatles with John and George lookalikes!!
Tommy and Eric can both play no probs about that. But having them dressed as Ace and Peter is no good at all. Why stop there? Let;s get a younger Paul who can hit those high notes, and a young and hungry Gene like back in the ol' days! Give T and E new characters or take the make off boys! Its like Paul McCartney and Ringo reforming the Beatles with John and George lookalikes!!
shit tommy go home. you no ace kuckihg frehley. no more make up please again with bruce kulick, in the future eric sing beth? please gene no more think aboaut money
dude i was their tonight and tommy sung that fucking awesome. Eric Singer also done black diamond really good as well....best concert ive ever been too
ALL TIME LOW IN KISSTORY. It's bad enough we get a fake Peter and Ace...now this,....I never thought I'd see the day when I'd say I'm ashamed to be a Kiss fan.
Gene and Paul should have just left the old KISS alone. Why put the fans through this? Die hard fans are not going to see them. I won't watch another tour with the same set list they have been using for 15 years. I used to like them because they were a rock band. Now it a business. Gene's vocals are terrible (when he can remeber his lines). Go listen to the old stuff and you be the judge. The nerve to say Ace played at the "Club" level. Hey Gene! Listen to you...ouch!
1966JohnnyBravo 2 years ago
Be original asswholes, you guy's suck now. I'll never pay another cent to see what has become a fiasco.
SaucyJack66 2 years ago
what a pile of fuckin shit tommy thayer blows dogs for change.
ihatetommythayer 3 years ago
Why do you hate Tommy?
BruzerKullicks 2 years ago
nice video, only f**cking bad sound
Sayapo080 3 years ago 3
VOMETT VOMETT VOMETT
fetusdick 3 years ago
Gene and Paul are doing more damage to KISS' image than Ace and Peter ever did in the 70's.
It is getting more pathetic every day. What is next? Tommy Thayer signing his autograph "Ace Frehley"? Will he draw an ace of hearts card with it like Ace does? Is he gonna AWK! during interviews? Can he do his laugh? Does he have his social security # ?
Stop this stupid scab crap!!
steelerkiss 3 years ago 2
you fools !!!
killerdillersbrew 3 years ago
but ace and peter got fired from kiss, so wats the point in changing makeup in the end.
greekchikinaustralia 3 years ago
Perhaps the so called "real Kiss fans" would have liked to have seen Vinnie Vincent in Ace's costume and makeup, singing "Shock Me", or Eric Carr as Peter Criss singing "Beth", tell all of us that are disgusted at whats happening now, that you would have been happy with that....NO?....well then why accept this?
Let Singer and Thayer invent their own characters and be themselves, I think EVERYONE would be happy with that..breath new life and interest into Kiss.
Rokket 3 years ago
100% AGREE!!
spidey66 3 years ago
So how would Kiss fans react if Ace sang God of Thunder (Gene's signature song) and spewed blood? or put himself and his band in makeup to look like Gene, Paul and Peter? There would be cries of "pathetic", "rubbish" and "bullshit", but this is what Kiss are doing, and thats fine?
Rokket 3 years ago
It would be amazing if Ace dressed his band as Paul and Gene! Ha! But of course KISS would sue his ass. This 'new' KISS is just a glorified tribute band. I dig Tommy as a player but we ain't getting to hear him play, just copy Ace's licks from 30 years ago. Sad all around...
glambush2 3 years ago
AAAAnd!!!!!!! YESSSSS!!!!!
There's SPIKEYBOY again.............
Man! you're Pathetic! hahahaha
Why is it, that you like so much talking about GAYNESS?
Had a bad (s)experience with some rough gay people lately? hahaha, you pricky.....
Tonyr67 3 years ago
Fuck! Learn to record propper videos...
qqq111 3 years ago
KISS live at Westfield Shopping Centre 3.30pm - 3.45pm Puppet Show 3.50pm - 4 pm.
spidey66 3 years ago 2
dont mind him playing ace's song, i just dont like it when people say how much better he is? i dont understand how he can be better if he's playing the same thing and not even note for note either. people nick pick too much on the kiss issues its like they woke up one day and had a fit because they found out their super hero's were real people with real problems and act like they got cheated. Only bad though about the new tour is the same ol songs.
swishersweets2008 3 years ago
For everybody who wants Peter back in the band -- did you SEE any of the shows he played from '96-'03?! J-O-K-E. Get over the original line-up already, people -- it CANNOT and WILL NOT function anymore.
jcgm97 3 years ago 2
i thought peter did fine during 97 reunion, but after that seemed to not give a shit.. but he didnt play near as well as he did in the 70s. its pretty sad he never kept his chops and practiced to keep his talent alive.
swishersweets2008 3 years ago 2
It's a SONG, people.
Ace is performing stuff that he didn't originally sing on, like Love Gun(written and sang by Paul) and Deuce(written mostly by Gene). Where's the uproar about THAT?
The songs are all part of KISStory, regardless of who sings them.
Felidaise 3 years ago 2
Kiss and Ace....a give and take relationship?..yeah Kiss take and give nothing in return. Not even a little respect.
The end of Kiss kicked off in Australia. How many fans will they lose because of this.
Rokket 3 years ago
?????
divagab 3 years ago
Guys, i don't like this as much as anyone else BUT KISS is a nostalgia act now. Everybody wants to see the four ICONS known to them which is: Star, Demon, Cat, SpaceMAN, not necessarily SpaceACE. And, remember, Ace is singing Lovegun and a bunch of other KISS songs on his U.S. tour right now. So, if you want Tommy to stop singing Shock Me, get Ace to quit singing Lovegun and all the other KISS songs.
parasite94 3 years ago
rokket and warthogfan you are so right my friends i could not have said it better myself
fetusdick 3 years ago
Warthogfan is right, what happend to respect. Maybe if Gene would agree to spliting profits down the middle, treat them like band MEMBERS and friends, and let them have a say in what they helped create in the first place, we'd have the real Ace and Peter in the band, instead of the fake rubbish this is. So much for Kiss fans standing up for what they believe in, Gene tells you Kiss are here for the fans, the fans are their boss....well if thats the case, Gene....YOUR FIRED.
Rokket 3 years ago
Well, I disagree. Peter and Ace were stupid enough to not stand for the band and probably they thought the band was nothing without them. Wrong. Paul and Gene were smart enough to treasure what they created and make money out of it. Don't tell me about magic because this doesn't exist. All of them are there for the money. You can see that at the Reunion Tour when they accepted to be back. To criticize from outside is so easy...
leandrogmarques 3 years ago
My reply, below, was directed at KissRocksForever
Warthogfan 3 years ago
This is nothing more than a parody now.What were they thinking?Disgraceful.
motorvate666 3 years ago
ticket sales show that some Kiss fans are willing to accept anything. Hands up who will accept Kiss without Gene or Paul or both....yeah I didn't think so. Welcome to the first concert of the "ALIVE KISS DIED" tour.
Rokket 3 years ago
i've got no problem with Tommy or Eric being in the band. Yeah sure, Ace and Peter left etc..etc... but the problem is , if Ace and Peter were such fuck ups why would Gene and Paul insist on dressing up Tommy and Eric to look like them...Its a cheap shot to get more bucks..The spaceman and catman were created by Ace and Peter..Aaarrrgggh!!! Give Tommy and Eric their own persona's..They will NEVER repeat the magic that is classic '70's KISS no matter how hard they try.
RevolverUpstairs 3 years ago
I'm so confused. I thought Tommy did a fantastic job. Sure it's Ace's sig song, but I doubt we'll ever see his face around here again and it's a great song to sing along to live, so somebody's gotta sing it. Do you think it's blasphemous that he wears Ace's make-up too?
Go Tommy, love you long time. <3
IllusiveSpatula 3 years ago
As bad as it gets....how low can this band go so soon. The pathetic performance on the footy show, tommy singing shock me, paul saying he wants to be replaced, paul selling his painting while on tour...i have been a Kiss fan for years, got laughed at school for liking them in the 80's and early 90's...now Im laughing at this band now. Over and out!!!
krazynite 3 years ago
As bad as it gets....how low can this band go so soon. The pathetic performance on the footy show, tommy singing shock me, paul saying he wants to be replaced, paul selling his painting while on tour...i have been a Kiss fan for years, got laughed at school for liking them in the 80's and early 90's...now Im laughing at this band now. Over and out!!!
krazynite 3 years ago
I don't get how they've ruined anything. If you don't like what they're doing now, fine. But it doesn't take anything away from the fact that Alive is a great album,or take anything away from what the original lineup accomplished. But the ticket sales show that there's still a big demand for KISS in some markets.
Again, I'm more concerned with the stale setlist and stage design, than I am about the who's wearing what makeup.
chaircitydude 3 years ago
Send an e-mail to Gene's site and let him know how you feel.
Rokket 3 years ago
Acekicken, you are spot on.....I'm done as well, this is pathetic.....hurry up and retire Kiss, before you completely ruin whats left of the Kiss legend.
Rokket 3 years ago
Man Kiss have just lost my last ounce of respect for them....
I have been a fan all my life but that was it IM done they have ruined it.
Acekicken 3 years ago
Thats fine......
Iknow Tommy is doing a job.......
but it is not a great idea let him sing shock me.......
tweum 3 years ago
That is Ace signature song........
It hurts big time when Tommy sing that song..
That is not a good idea....
KISS IS IN MY BLOOD...
Today was not a glory day in Kisstory....
tweum 3 years ago
Insufficiant data at this time Starchild....
newley64 3 years ago
maybe because to a lot of people ace is there favorite member of kiss
fetusdick 3 years ago
true, he's mine as well, but does it really call for all this pointless flaming of tommy? If kiss asked you to join as the new spaceman, im sure you'd say yes, along with everybody else.
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
In a heart beat!!! And if they told me to sing Torpedo Girl..I would....were not blaming Tommy...its Gene & Paul...will I still go to the show?...Hell Yeah!!!
newley64 3 years ago
it wasnt so much you who were insulting tommy, but fetus was going wayyyy over the top before, as im sure you'll see, he's posted many times, all of which were very insulting. I'm happy to see that you can agree with me.
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
Some freinds in the music biz have said that Gene and Paul had Tommy sing Shock Me at the first show so that they can monitor fan reaction...to decide if they should push the envelope and have Eric sing Beth...dont laugh...he sang it at a couple of KISS conventions.
newley64 3 years ago
ok, im gonna ask a question... and please dont answer with "cuz he fucking sucks" or anything like that..
why don't you people like tommy in ace's makeup, but dont mind eric in peters?
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
Great question..BUT...Tommy is singing Shock Me! The last time Eric sang Black Diamond was not in makeup!...I like Tommy.. he handed my 10 year old son 3 picks in one night...but he should not sing Shock Me!!!
newley64 3 years ago
fair enough, by the way, during the summer shows of 2007, eric did sing black diamond.
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
I don't like that either. But I have always been an Ace fan and I am getting grumpy of the way Ace gets treated by the greedy jews.
Putting both of them in different makeup and hace some respect for the original members would have been the way to go.
Warthogfan 3 years ago
Okay....by "Greedy Jews" i assume you mean Paul and Gene. Paul and Ace are best friends at this point, and apparently Ace isn't pissed off, or else, they would have been sued for the makeup rights now. KISS owns Aces makeup as well as Peters, if they wanted it bad enough, they could get the rights to it. As well as the songs. But, with Ace/KISS its a give/take relationship. Ace is doing KISS on his tour, so KISS can do whatever they want to. They're KISS they don't have to answer to us!!
parasite94 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
What do you expect with a gay jew & fat jew?
spike14501 3 years ago
I would have walked out like others did when they started playing "Shock Me"....I never want to see Kiss live again.
Rokket 3 years ago
and thats what pisses me off the most after tommy is that it has not been about being a band for a long time and gene has no morals
fetusdick 3 years ago
yeah and the sad thing is i will go if they come to perth again but i was not paying all that money to fly east when i dont like tommy and i have no respect for gene its just all about the money and but pauls a legend and eric is cool
fetusdick 3 years ago
Ace is a true legend.....
he s guitar signature is amazing ALIVE is a classic guitar album....He has written Rockn Roll all over him.....Made awesome kiss songs..He designed the logo he designed his makeup he designed Pauls makeup....Wait a minute Tommy has worked onthe kissology that makes him better than Ace........
Tommy(the kissology working girl)Thayer.....
haha.......WTF......
tweum 3 years ago
It was called the "Farewell" tour for one reason and one reason only. If Kiss fans think that it's the last time they will see Kiss live they'll buy tickets like crazy, and they did. Thats all it was about, a marketing ploy. It will probably happen again, and fans will probably fall for it again.
Rokket 3 years ago
Its actually Mrs, but anyway, beside the point, I'm saying it to anyone in particular, but some people here are hugely misinformed, basically I agree with what Newley64 just put down.
I know I wasn't around to see them in 1980, but from what I have seen from my era is that Kiss should have let the Farewell tour be the FAREWELL tour, I thought "Farewell" does usually imply you are going somewhere? Obviously not retirement like we all first thought!
strutter20 3 years ago
Mrs.Strutter you make complete sence...I was at the Garden for Kiss' first show there in 1977..Im also the Kiss fan in Peters makeup on the "Donahue" show...and I'll be honest I enjoyed The Rock the Nation Tour...but Tommy should not be singing Shock Me!! If he sang Into the Void I would still be upset..but not as much.....
newley64 3 years ago
Spot on Newley! Glad it made sense to someone lol but Kiss has really turned onto a business more than a band now, and thats sad, but thats life, from what I can see they are just milking the fans for what they can while they can still do it and don't particuarly have any morals about it anymore, Ace has his signature make up and Peter has his, along with the songs, dispite who paid who what to use them, it's just respect which I am seeing an increasing lack of with all of this...
strutter20 3 years ago
That is the problem Rokket there are to many lies......Ace was told it was a farewell tour the fans was told it was a farewell tour.....
Go out on top.....yeh and those true kiss fans who would support everything they do...
there are only one face who fit the makeup..
Put Pauls makeup on Gene and they stll have think its great.....Crazy assholes....
tweum 3 years ago
Listen kiddies Im from the Bronx New York just like Ace...Tommy should not be singing Shock Me!
Shame on Gene & Paul...it was their call...remember they make all the calls...Im a little surprised Doc McGee did'nt talk them out of it.....
newley64 3 years ago
I read a quote from Ace recently and he said 'Tommy used be in a Kiss tribute band, oh wait, he still is'. What happens if Paul dies, is gene gonna bring a Paul-robot too.
Warthogfan 3 years ago
God Bless Ace!!! See him on this tour...Thats Rock and Roll!!!
newley64 3 years ago
i know all that mr strutter20 but i dont give a fuck because i first saw kiss live in australia in 1980 before you were even born
fetusdick 3 years ago
All the DVD's would exist without Tommy, Gene will be releasing DVD's even after the band breaks up, which, thank god, won't be too far away, due to age if nothing else. I remember Gene during the re-union period, saying that it was so important to go out on top, so I guess he's changed his mind.
Rokket 3 years ago
big fucking deal tommy put the second coming dvd and kissology dvds together i dont get why people give a fuck about people baging him when so called kiss fans fucking bag ace and peter
fetusdick 3 years ago
yeh thats what people talkin about tommys job on the kissology stuff so thats why you think its okay let him sing shock me......
That is not ok......it is a nightmare come true......
tweum 3 years ago
oh it wouldnt exist is that right so is that tommy in all that live footage well fuck me dead fuck and thought that was tommy only on kiss alive 4 and rock the nation in case you cant tell im being sarcastic
fetusdick 3 years ago
"Shock Me" is Ace's signature song, "Beth" is Peters signature song, but Kiss just can't let either Ace or Peter have anything left can they, take it all away from them, leave them with nothing, oh but thats o.k because the so called "true Kiss fans" seem to love the idea of sticking the boots into Ace or Peter any chance they get...."true Kiss fans" are disgusted with this.
Rokket 3 years ago
rokket you hit the hammer right on the nail the need to put this thing to bed kisstory is becoming a joke
fetusdick 3 years ago
So whats next....oh I know, put Eric Singer in Eric Carrs makeup for a few shows to give the fans something different. What would the so called Kiss fans think of that? Would that be acceptable as well? Hey Kiss, why not lose a few more fans and get Thayer to sing Talk to Me and New York Groove.....time for Kiss to retire before they wreck the legend completely.
Rokket 3 years ago
I don't see this as any worse than scab Eric Singer singing Black Diamond.
thenorthwind 3 years ago
Man that sucks 9 kinds of ass right there. They should have Eric sing "Beth" too... what a great goddamn idea.
megadethguy 3 years ago
Ace dont sing Detroit....And he dont mess up Deuce....
If you think that is Brilliant that Tommy sings shock me thats ok............
I AM AN TRUE KISS FAN and sorry thats just so wrong.......cant belive that there are people saying tommy is better than Ace....
tweum 3 years ago
A "true kiss fan" would know that without tommy, just about every kiss dvd wouldnt exist, and without tommy, The reunion itself probaably wouldnt have happened, or at least be delayed since ace couldnt remember his own solos.
If ignorance is bliss, then you must be orgasmic.
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
"Without tommy, just about every kiss dvd wouldn't exist" ??? Sorry, I'm not understanding you here - I have all three Kissology-s, about 13 DVDs worth of stuff, Ace is on 12 of them, and Tommy is on none of them. So what exactly are you referring to? (This isn't ball-breaking, I'm just trying to understand.)
Paulie88 3 years ago
Check the credits on the dvd's and you will see that Tommy Thayer didn't just "appear" into the Kiss scene when he appeared in the band, sometimes doing a little research never goes astray before shooting your mouth off ;)
strutter20 3 years ago
Who shot their mouth off? If you mean me, you'll have to point out where...
Paulie88 3 years ago
now we can look forward to tommy singing all of the songs ace sings oh no fuck stop him make me feel better cmon and stop him im down to the bare wire it was not enough his in aces costume and makeup no he fucking has to sing his song as well new all time low well done gene and paul who run the kiss machine
fetusdick 3 years ago
Ace sings Deuce & Detroit @ his solo shows & makes a mess of them, yet no one complains about that. People whinge that Kiss don't mix up the set list, yet when they do, there's more complaints. Tommy is doing a far better job than Ace can nowadays.
ozkissfan 3 years ago
tommy fucking sucks sucks sucks big fucking time stop him make me feel better oh yeah yeah yeah im down to the bare wire cmon and stop him make me feel better oh yeah yeah yeah
fetusdick 3 years ago
tommy thayer fucking blows big time
fetusdick 3 years ago
Embarrassing. "Shock Me" is 100% Ace. Time for these guys to move onto other projects.
gismwism 3 years ago
cool looking stage.
temply123 3 years ago
kiss live at Footy show and now Tommy doing shock me....how can i survive this day.....
tweum 3 years ago
KISS IS IN MY BLOOD......
And this was not a glory day.....
tweum 3 years ago
It's a popular Kiss Song... I think I would feel better about it if Paul
sang it not Tommy....however... no one is crying wolf that ACE is singing
KISS songs in his solo shows...other than his own! No one complains when
Eric sings Black Diamond, etc... it's just the fact that we need something
to complain about.
...and... after ALL this time with this current lineup...if NO ONE realizes
that is Tommy, then they have been living under a pile of rocks.
agathree 3 years ago
Sounds good. It's just a stupid song people, get a life.
carrfox72 3 years ago
look you kiss lover twits. the problem isnt that some guy is singing sock me. the problem is that he in aces makeup. now if kiss is great and all then why dont let eric and tommy wear some new makeup? same costumes is ok but new makeup. it worked ok before so do it now and stop with ace and peter makeup to trick idiots in other parts of the world that this is the real kiss. with that said. this version of kiss sucks and is just plain boring now.
spiderwar 3 years ago
Complete BULLSHIT!
What a complete lack of common decency, respect and integrity to make a buck!
The real KISS was back in 1973 - 1978
Paul, Gene, Peter and Ace
1974oldschoolkiss 3 years ago
Yeh you cant svallow that.....
That is alltime low...
WTF....
IT HURTS BIGTIME....
tweum 3 years ago
IMO, a bigger sin was the Ace/Pete imposters of the 70's. You know, the ones that appeared un-credited on the albums. But, I guess as long as it SAYS "peter Criss and Ace Frehley", the magic must've been there, right? With that said. I was disapointed to see the stage is the same yet again. Ironically, the stage sets were much more interesting and creative during the non-makeup years than they have been since the reunion. I only hope the song list is more diverse. But I fear it isn't.
chaircitydude 3 years ago
most of you guys are immature idiots that freak out because ace QUIT the band and your all crying over it. Ace is solo now, if you wanna see him (which I adivice you do) then do that, stop shitting yourselves over kiss.
Tommy Thayer did a very good job singing shock me, and I'd like to see eric sing beth. Did everyone freak out when sammy hagar and david lee roth songs? Well?
Proof that MOST kiss fans arnt fans of kiss, only the original 4, This line up rocks!
KissRocksForever 3 years ago
Good God. Tommy and Eric have been in KISS wearing those characters for five years now. Big effing deal. It's only makeup, people.
Those characters didn't mean enough to their creators, they sold the rights for money.
I sure ain't gonna get worked up over the spaceman and catman characters more than Pete and Ace.
I'm just glad that KISS is better off musically with this lineup. Eric is one of the best drummers around.
chaircitydude 3 years ago
KISS sucks now. Fuck toomy frankenace and scabby doo.
coryphoenix808 3 years ago
I saw kiss 1980 1983 1984 1988 1992 1996 1997 1999 10 shows from this period and Ace Frehley 1995
11 april Astoria London Ace Frehley i cant wait..........Got my first record 1975....ALIVE.....AWESOME........YEH Thayer tryed to perform shock me in front of 65 000 retarded like you...
tweum 3 years ago
...Must... Kill!
Fehzlez 3 years ago
The magic aint there anymore......
This lineup is alltime low in kisstory.....
kissman16 is a retarded piece of shit......
Just like hes idol Thommy(the pizza delivery girl)Thayer........
no new album no new costumes no new stage show............... admit it this is low
tweum 3 years ago
Relax man! First of all, do you expect KISS do make new costumes? C'mon...That wouldn't be right..ANyways, this tour is just for fun and they do not really need to do anything new apart from changing the set-list...But, Tommy singing SHock Me is very hard to swallow.
BBBNY 3 years ago
yeah but your only 15 i saw kiss in australia in 1980 1995 1997 2001 2003 and 2004
fetusdick 3 years ago
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
godofthunder115 3 years ago
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
godofthunder115 3 years ago
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
godofthunder115 3 years ago
seriously, you people have to know nothing about KISS to be trashing tommy and eric. they had to replace peter and ace because the two of them were not working well with the band. they both left, they weren't fired or anything. tommy and eric stepped in when they needed to, and i think their great. i'm not saying peter and ace are bad, because i also love their era, but that era is over because peter and ace just dont want to play anymore and paul and gene do!
godofthunder115 3 years ago
of course it is acceptable to trash tommy when you so called fans of 30 years trash ace and i am a fan of 28 years
fetusdick 3 years ago
oh bullsh*t!...... Tommy is in the band now, and he is ALLOWED to sing ACE'S songs! NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! i allow that & i am a 33 year fan of KISS! so shut up!
jvflexx 3 years ago
please people!!!!!! tommy singing shock me, no more make up!!!!!!1!!!!!!please, the make with ace & peter is good, but tommy & eric no!!!!is time bruce kulick again in the band with eric(see kissology 3 detroit 92 brazil 94 the band very good and hot)and continue the kisstory......please gene no think in the money you have a lot of money, why more. i am kiss fans from argentina.
kissboedo 3 years ago
oh and another thing kissman 16 ace frehley is the only spaceman just proves my point you know nothing about kiss
fetusdick 3 years ago
kissman 16 i take it your not fan of 70s era kiss because if you were you would not say such a stupid comment you a most likely a younger fan who grew up listing to kiss in this decade
fetusdick 3 years ago
Just because you don't like what I said, doesn't make it any less true. Oh, Ace wasn't drunk and didn't play shows drunk?? What reality do you live in??
Actually I like all eras of KISS and I've been a KISS fan for 30 years. But it's funny how acceptable it is to trash Tommy for no reason.
The cool thing about this is that after just one show, "Spaceman" Tommy Thayer just performed "Shock Me" in front of more people than Ace will on his entire solo tour. LOL
kissman16 3 years ago
ACE is still around and he plays the shit out of that Thayer girl.....Frehley is on a solo tour like Stanley did last year.........
AWESOME.......
tweum 3 years ago
This is great stuff!! "Spaceman" Tommy Thayer is an awesome guitarist and it's so cool that he's getting to sing now.
It's kinda nice seeing "Shock Me" performed by someone other than that drunk has-been they used to have with them.
kissman16 3 years ago
yeh kiss was AWESOME with Ace and Peter......
This is far out.........
And for those who say shock me was the best song that night....? CYANID....
tweum 3 years ago
you must not respect the original lineup to say something so stupid they need to retire kiss paul has just said in an interview in australia that one day they could go on without him and they most likely will gene can never get enough money paul should just go solo and put out more albums his solo tour last year was fucking awesome
fetusdick 3 years ago
Eric and Tommy can play and sing circles around todays Ace and Peter. Singer is one hell of a rockdrummer. And Tommy is a very good guitarist for KISS.
Stop cryin about Ace & Peter. They had their chances, and fucked up!! If they were so good, they would still be around. But that's not the case.
astra1968 3 years ago
tommy thayer fucking sucks and ace frehley and 70s era kiss rule thank god i saw alive worldwide 1996-1997 and the farewell tour in perth arr they were the days
fetusdick 3 years ago
Shame. Are you sure that you saw Kiss, or you saw 4 guy with Kiss make up doing a Kiss cover? This is NOT Ace Frehley singing this original Kiss' with Ace Frehley vocals song. Its a fake!
edumartins 3 years ago
you guys need to get your heads out of your asses,eric was put in the makeup because criss left the band in the middle of the reunion tour so they had no choice but to put him in the makeup,frehley left just after the reunion tour and their where already plans made for a new tour so tommy was put in his costume and makeup,and with this video quality you can not judge how he really does it....
Necramoniumvideo 3 years ago 6
Listen to Necramoniumvideo. He has authority to speak about this. Look at his group for example. Be glad that this is Kisstory.
Accept91 3 years ago
Tommy and Eric can both play no probs about that. But having them dressed as Ace and Peter is no good at all. Why stop there? Let;s get a younger Paul who can hit those high notes, and a young and hungry Gene like back in the ol' days! Give T and E new characters or take the make off boys! Its like Paul McCartney and Ringo reforming the Beatles with John and George lookalikes!!
spidey66 3 years ago
Tommy and Eric can both play no probs about that. But having them dressed as Ace and Peter is no good at all. Why stop there? Let;s get a younger Paul who can hit those high notes, and a young and hungry Gene like back in the ol' days! Give T and E new characters or take the make off boys! Its like Paul McCartney and Ringo reforming the Beatles with John and George lookalikes!!
spidey66 3 years ago
for people who wernt there your all idiots.....that song was one of the best of the night. Eric Singer also done a bloody good job of Black Diamond
howrie24 3 years ago
Ace should SUE!!! I wonder if he does the smoking guitar solo????
coldgin987 3 years ago
shit tommy go home. you no ace kuckihg frehley. no more make up please again with bruce kulick, in the future eric sing beth? please gene no more think aboaut money
kissboedo 3 years ago
dude i was their tonight and tommy sung that fucking awesome. Eric Singer also done black diamond really good as well....best concert ive ever been too
howrie24 3 years ago 2
anyone with dvds from this show please message me !!
mrkiss36 3 years ago
ALL TIME LOW IN KISSTORY. It's bad enough we get a fake Peter and Ace...now this,....I never thought I'd see the day when I'd say I'm ashamed to be a Kiss fan.
Rokket 3 years ago
WTF.............
Tanja looks and sound likes she need a 357...
This is not cool........
Wonder if Erica sings Beth.........
This is not a lineup to be proud of.....
The reunion was BRILLIANT.......
ACE,GENE,PAUL AND PETER........
KISS Is not TANJA,GENE,PAULINA AND ERICA...
This was out of space the retarted way.....
tweum 3 years ago
Perfect!!! Tommy rocks!
joaovpiccolo 3 years ago
That sounded Awsome!!!
bloodyrocker1 3 years ago
Blasphemous roumors come true.....!AWK !
Strutter69 3 years ago
steal this clown his guitar!
themechanixxx 3 years ago 2
WHAT
amundsen1989 3 years ago