Spartanburg Councilwoman Linda Dogan's Speech at Anti-LGBT Pride Event

[ranz0u]

6:00 Nazi salute.

[codeythesilent]

I love how part of her argument was "I'm a oppressed black woman" and yet she's trying to oppress another minority group. Fuck you too bitch.

[MetalliCxZero]

People choose to be gay? What a dumbass. What's the benefit of sleeping with the same sex that outweighs such public oppression? They only say that because it's the foundation for all of their arguments.

[kragoon]

Disgraceful

[braeduin]

I was waiting for her to say "THIS IS SPARTA-nburg!"

Besides that, do you think she's sexually frustrated much? Coz she's got some anger in her.

[MrLawrenceV]

If that's love to her, I'd hate to see what she does to people she doesn't like.

[drfoxcourt]

"it is not hate" but I will say all the hateful things I can because the God I take as my example of moral living hates Gays. Only Religious nuts equate punishment and degradation as signs of God's love.

Turn the clock back to 1860 - "The niggers proper place is in servitude to the white race. It says so in the Bible."

What an brainwashed and brainwashing ignorant.

[MrEnlightenup]

I BELIEVE IN AN AMERICA WHERE THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS ABSOLUTE".JOHN F. KENNEDY....YOU THINK THIS FAT ASS BITCH CAN MAKE A PIMPLE ON KENNEDYS ASS.RELIGION AND GOVERNMENT WILL BOTH EXIST IN GREATER PURITY THE LESS THEY ARE MIXED TOGETHER .JAMES MADISON..HAVE A DARWIN DAY

[founoe]

I don't you about you people, but I don't wake up every morning and choose to be attracted to the opposite sex. So I assume gay people don't wake up every morning and choose to be attracted to the same sex.

But even if I thought it was a choice I wouldn't see where the problem lies.

[ADawsonTV]

and even after all this if you seem or look to straight you lose. Seeing as this woman has experiences discrimination for something she cant change she should know what that feels like 2 of 2

[ADawsonTV]

Looks like she needs to play the closet game (straight version)

Rules

You can't talk about your partner or if you do you must use different pronouns.

You cant take a date to any events

You can't be seen in public with your partner

You must sit quietly while people make fun of your sexuality because if you say something about tolerance people will suspect.1 of 2

[magos2k6]

Jesus was gay! He let a bunch of guys hold him down and nail him! So that OFFICIALLY ends the debate. That's that!!

[JolexDB]

That was a despicable prejudicial mean spirited tirade about an oppressed group coming from a black woman (!) in the name of God. Seriously absurd.

[ItsTheWooo]

At least she is being stimulated by her own irrational rage and emotion.

The listeners have no excuse.

How pathetic boring and useless must your life BE that you actually walk to a rally to clap for a fat black woman screaming illogical, inadvertently hilarious slurs against gays?

[ItsTheWooo]

I guess all the years of going through racism prevented her brain from developing normally. This is tragic. It's like watching a borderline retarded person attempt to form some kind of thought and argue it.

[TamaNewb]

Why is she proud of being black? im not proud of being white.... its the light reflected from your skin....

Pride is a childish ideal.

[TamaNewb]

she looks gay....

[regemo]

Idiotic.

I LOVE how she feels like she has a point about being BLACK this and BLACK that. I'm black too! And the same damn things she was complaining about black people enduring are some of the same things that gay people endured during that same time period.

Being refused entry to establishments. Being fired or refused employment. Being lynched. Kicked off of public transportation. Relegated to stereotypes on television.

It is NOT a choice. Maybe if she picked up a book besides the bible...

[IGuessIllCallUrBluff]

@regemo Preach.

[victorbarovsky]

Is this some kind of elaborate joke? She must be trolling that audience.

[llamaczar]

Discrimination is evil except when its suits my paradigm. What an idiot.

[tarsonis10]

makes me wanna puke

[kaduisaui]

As a black child I was discriminated against. I know how it feels. Nobody should ever experience that kind of inequality, bigotry and hatred. Lucky for me that time has gone. Many good people fought and died for the civil liberties I now enjoy. I promise to never forget the sacrifices made to get us this far. I am so compassionate, I am so full of God's love. Amen! God hates fags and lesbians. They can never get married. God bless us all except them gays, lesbians and trans-gender freaks. Amen!

[kaduisaui]

@kaduisaui That fat bitch is damn lucky enlightened people fought for her right to stand on stage and spew that hateful shit. There was a time when the only chance she'd get to be on stage was during an auction. I think religion is the root cause of her idiocy.

[kgyantixbc]

Another stumblin block on the path to another victory. Humanity is fuked and i love being on the bus to hell.

[eyeEATyoBABIES]

1. I don't think I chose to be straight anymore than other people chose to be gay.

2. Michael Jackson chose to be white...

[yermomsboxx]

It gets better...as soon as you move out of Spartanburg, South Carolina.

I promise : )

[Trips1103]

You keep saying "love" but you have not said anything remotely similar to love. Not ONE thing.

[Trips1103]

Councilwoman, the world isn't centered around your little bible and your little god and your little mind. For shame! A woman of color looking to deny others the same rights and privileges she enjoys. Hypocrite!! For shame!

[Sesshy1988]

Stay at home and pray for them, lol? I'm taking it this was about gay rights or whatever that is what i got from it, they shouldn't be making it their business. they should be Praying for homeless people and people who need food. Not people that are gay? I mean really what the fuck, get your priorities straight.

[TonyPstunts]

This bitch has it all twisted.........Suffering isnt a competition.... Being black isnt any more or less a trial of ones character than that of a gay man or a lesbian woman's or a transgender person. Yet this woman and MANY in the black community will lead everyday people whom "speak out of love" to think that human rights of the LGBT community and "Civil" rights are two different things.... So we can have "Civil unions" but not have "Civil rights" ?!?!?1

Im sorry, wha?

[Jaybird196]

"I'm sick of being told I don't have compassion" . Apparently not sick enough :/ .

[Tommy5297]

i smell the race card...haters, bigots, and all assorted nuts..grow up!

[n987]

Glazed in Orwellian double speak

[zerostrung]

if you've got some hate in your heart in the name of Jesus, let it out! wait.... oops... >.<

[vendettaseve]

Hypocrite indeed. What a fool.

[2020pfw]

Ignorance!

[MrBiomaniac]

Hypocrite

[rationalsalvation]

This idiot needs to google Bayard Rustin. Civil Rights activist for African Americans and Homosexuals.

[TheQwerty59]

"I'm the most compassionate people you'll know"...lol yea I'm sure she's one of the most humble people too. Her hate/"love" makes me want to vomit.

[Fproano]

“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

[TheStigma]

By the way people - don't downvote this. upvote it!

The thumb-up button isn't there for you to agree or disagree with the content. It is there for you to make it more or less probable that other people will be see the video. This video needs to be seen - the more the better - so people can know that this kind of insanity goes on.

[TheStigma]

Wow - the irony is off the scale!

Religion: How to label people subhuman with "love".

Religion: How to use your experience of prejudice against blacks in comparison with prejudice of gays and still justify that prejudice.

As someone below me noted - this is a TRAINWRECK of a speech, and it is truly truly disturbing that a crowd of people can applaud this.

[yourfullofsheite]

Slavery bible approved.......I'm talking outa love not hate.

[scotttebben]

Religion is not benign it is parasitic to it's host.

[rba718]

Honestly, this is like watching a train-wreck over and over. The level of irony here is amazing.

[kylecoriza]

"I'm not coming to you as a city council person- I'm coming to you as a child of God!"

Well, I'm a child of God too, lady!!!! >:(

And FYI: Since you know alot about the African-American Civil Rights era, you should know that the person who taught Dr. King(R.I.P.) the non-violent teachings of Mahatma Gandh(R.I.P) was Bayard Rustin(R.I.P.), who, by the way, was a GAY man.

Thats why he later became a gay rights activist.

Thats why we use the SAME techniques!

Thumps Up if you agree!!!!

[fuzzynippleman]

2:10 "so when you talk about civil rights you talk about stuff that's REAL; that people have gone through." ..... HOLY-FLAMING-BULLSHIT-BATMAN!! Is she just that insane that she can get up in front of a group of people and tell them that LGBT people don't "go through" a ton of shit??

[rba718]

I like how there's maybe 12 people.

That shitty christian knock off of the American flag is a disgrace.

[keyotikdragon]

Lol i used to live in Greenville right next to Spartanburg. I'd go to Ground Zero in Spartanburg to see rock shows. Welcome to the Bible Belt... gene pool needs a bit of chlorine down here.

[sailornaruto39]

i don't see her complaning about red lobster :/

[todkapuz]

She uses a religious pretense to say its okay for her to have her rights, but not someone else, when the book itself says its fine to have slaves? *sigh* either your for peoples rights or your not. Dont pretext it. We're in America. As long as it doesnt threaten your safety or rights, people have the freedom to express what ever form of happiness they see fit. Beyond that, who really cares?

[fraterlucifer888]

this woman makes me want to be gay instead of straight just so I would never have a the remotest possibility of ever fucking her stupid bitch cunt that want shut the fuck up,dont give fuck one about her point of view dont give fuck one who is gay or not,my policy is DONT KNOW DONT CARE,and did some fucker just say "right on" really,you know what being gay whether its choice or born that way, its everybodys personal right to choose to fuck whoever they want, anybody but this stupid whiney bitch

[DaFawky]

"You can choose to be gay"

This lady is very confused between "choosing" and "hiding".

That's like saying "You can CHOOSE to be autistic! You can see the color of my skin but you don't always know if someone is autistic! You have to ask them!!!"

What a bunch of rubbish.

[TheEraserRain]

Gay-bashing woman

Screeches to her followers

The death throes of hate.

[420simpson]

what a hateful group. what a bunch of pathetic bigots.

[FizzySherbet]

How fucking disgusting.

[Zed1967]

Where's the KKK when you need them?

[TheLogicStick]

FUCK MY LIFE. I'm from that area. -.-

[MisterEvil1]

The voices of hate always claim to be otherwise.

[atxthumper]

ignorant woman is ignorant

[qworq]

sometimes the "n" word just works.

[cyn118]

Ever read Leviticus? Woman, you are so wrong. But I believe God loves you anyway and hopes you are redeemed of your hatred.

[d6j6r6]

Child of god, you go and hate. Read your bible, but be careful what you choose to spout.

[XtremeDreamerX]

I'd like to talk to his hoe about Matthew Shepard.

[RallyHome]

I'm not coming to you as a city council person. I'm coming to you as Jesus.

[mikedamat]

What I never understood is why they're so adamant about claiming homosexuality is a choice. Even if it is 100% a choice, what difference does it make? People "choose" to have interracial relationships, does that mean we should outlaw interracial relationships since it's a "choice"?

[mikedamat]

This is why I hate politicians.

[MrFrank29302]

This women is insane! A Balck female Bigot? She should be the one to stand up for gays!

Does she know that the members of the Klu Klux Klan claim to be Christians.

Jews chose to be Jews so I bet she thinks that what Hitler did to them was OK. I wonder how old she was when she decided to be a hetrosexual? Or did the decision come naturally?.

This women needs to resign form her office. She is a fruitcake!

This is so sad .This women is so ignorant! She needs to do research.

[Deanne1281]

This woman is very sad!!!!!!! If only closed minds came with closed mouths! So proud Of Mayor White!

[Slugsie1]

What an utterly awful, bigotted, hateful, ignorant woman.

[TheIntJuggler]

How can you love someone and still follow a God who you believe will send them to hell for something that doesn't hurt anyone.

[gozalien]

"God made us all equal", but men and women judge us differently. It is a shame that she gives the same hate she has received. Two negatives never make a positive. How many gays are companies hiring? On the back of the bus she was riding, Hitler was the driver.

[RallyHome]

Ignorant woman. I suggest she pick up some scientific journals. Compassionate as any other redneck hillbilly. 

[SpartanburgSpark]

I lost what respect I had for Dogan when she gave this speech.

[gozalien]

This is an ignorant bigot. While she can not take off her skin, she does not have to worry about somebody finding out that she is black and losing her job over it. This woman truly has a lot of hatred built up inside her. She has no clue what gay people have to go through every day in a state that does not list sexual orientation as a protected class. Speaking as how she does about discrimination she has endured, it would seem that she would be more accepting of people who are different.

[IchorDarkness]

Lol she opens up with her whole racism schtick, it's terrible. Homosexuality is an inborn feature. You can choose to 'try' to be straight, but why should anyone have to?

[xMiyaoMicksx]

What a stupid bitch! No one cares how black you are, you're a hateful bigot! And being gay isn't a choice, she needs to do some research.

[santigati]

She really needs to come out of the closet... and get a personal trainer..what the hell was that.?..it's she running for public office or to run a church of bashing gays?......

[bigricky63]

Tell her to write a fuckin book,we ain't got time to be listening to hate speech,We real people are busy fighting for equal rights.

[starchildExcalibur]

Sounds like Hilter to me.

[starchildExcalibur]

Some people work so hard to camouflage their hate and portray it as 'love'...

[starchildExcalibur]

"And, I'm sick of people saying that I don't have compassion. I'm one of the more compassionate people that you will find."

"We don't need to endorse *your* lifestyle... 'Cause, *you're* not going to endorse *my* lifestyle."

"I ask all of you here, not to go to their parade, because you're giving them what they want.... They WANT you to go out there and howl at them and say 'you wrong'. Stay at home and pray for them."

[BetterABleedingHeart]

Bigot. Why does she take full advantage of the rights she has for her CHOSEN religious lifestyle to demean LGBT people and insinuate they don't deserve the rights she has and takes for granted? 

[MrTeshie]

That "Right Owwwwn" really gets on my nerves. Can anyone guess where this guy is from?

Linda, you are welcome at my family's dinner table anytime. Tell MY FAMILY what you went through. Tell my father on this Father's Day what you went through and let him tell you things he has never told us: the stories of his 1 year and 3 days in Vietnam, serving alongside your definition of black and white.

BTW, the "black Pastors" were probably home praying for you.

[whickewhack]

"Yeah, I love you with all my heart but unless you stop being a homosexual right now (because my very own fairy in the sky has told me homosexuality is evil) I'm afraid I can't perceive you as human. But remember, I love you!"

[jbradshaw1]

She's fat

[igotclassk]

boooooooooooooooooooooo.

[chimbooze]

Bigotry is not exclusively white.

[mountscoundrel]

so, Black people want to convert all gays to "normal." cool. now i can not date black guys and not be a racist.

[pattycakes65]

christians...

[matthewxcountry]

I think the weirdest part about this speech is that she claims gay people choosing to be gay is some reason to be against LGBT rights. Of course most gay people don't choose to be gay, but thats not what makes this statement weird. The weird part is that it basically implies if she chose to be black then all the horrible things that happened to her during segregation would be justified. If people chose their race would she seriously be opposed to interracial marriage? Choice is irrelevant here.

[tekkentool]

@matthewxcountry word, you summed up my thoughts more beautifully than could.

[MrTeshie]

@matthewxcountry SHE DID NOT ENDURE THE WORST OF SEGREGATION. 56 years old means born in 1954. Ironically, South Carolina had a relatively peaceful transition to integration. I wish any witness to come forward to verify that her "black" self was treated differently than any other "white" on a bus, in a hospital, etc.

I don't "see" that you are "black". I've tried to be civil, but "white", or "black", YOU ARE JUST INCREDIBLY STUPID AND DIVISIVE.

[shlarg]

"I want you to know that I am not up here saying HATE, I’m saying, LOVE YOU."

LOL !

[MrTeshie]

The "Right On!" from the crowd is not a South Carolina accent.

She is lying about everything.  She is suffering from dementia. I recommend she checks into a hospital ASAP.

[iliketoUSEmybrain017]

"hateful bigoted cunt" feels appropriate here.

[2xtreem4u]

hypocrite and bigot

[guitarsean99]

Bigots come in all shapes, sizes, and colors.

[jmp4z77]

That is the most hate -filled love I have ever seen....

[throwaway0]

What a dumb, superstitious bitch. South Carolina is pathetic.

And on top of all that she pronounced it "ambalamps". *facepalm*

[MrTeshie]

@throwaway0 SC is not pathetic. She is. 

[MrTeshie]

Councilwoman Dogan,

Talk to my father, as a "WHITE MAN, BORN IN SPARTANBURG, SC" what his experiences were during desegregation i.e. regular beatings, etc.

My family is not all white. You are trying to make the world black and white in a World full of shades of grey.

[MrTeshie]

Councilwoman Dogan,

We are not asking you to be a "child of God". We are asking you to stop taking anachronistic trips to the 1950s or 1960s and focus on the City of Spartanburg Circa 2010,

I will never forgive you, as an unscheduled speaker, coming to the mic during the 2009 MLK, Jr. Day celebrations and pulling your "back of the bus" schtick. You RUINED a joyous occassion, and by the Grace of God, you will NEVER stand on a pedestal again. Who is organizing the petition drive?

[82samstein]

two things strike me as most obvious. first, having been someone who went through civil rights, wouldn't linda want to SUPPORT this movement, or sympathize with it at the very least? secondly, as a jew, please... don't talk to ME about civil rights. seriously.

[YOURINQUIRER]

"I'm one of the most compassionate people you will ever find." That's kind of like having a big penis. If you have to say you have one, you don't.

[AnimeAdictProduction]

bigoted bitch. using ad hominem to have people BAWWWWWW and feel bad for her to get their simpathy.

It's NOT A CHOICE to be GAY. GET OVER IT. TALK ABOUT EQUALITY WHEN ALL ARE EQUAL,NOT JUST STRAIGHT PEOPLE.

hmpf. hypocrite

[d6j6r6]

What an ig'nant, ugly, misguided human being. Listen to the lynch mob: "come on, yeah, come on" Linda, you are nothing but a dancing monkey to them.