What are the core beliefs of Gnosticism and Christianity?

[arnibah]

Christians,Muslims and Jews are at each ther's throat,but you won't find a Gnostic,Sufi or Kabbalist fighting 1 another.That is because the latter has true understanding.

[meandi10000]

Those christians are not smart enough to see that all those storys are metafors, that is so stupid it hurts.

[meandi10000]

@meandi10000 im sorry i meant those orhodox christians

[pandirasbox]

I'm a Gnostic Christian so if you want to know our beliefs talk to me instead of being spoon fed lies from these white washed tombs full of dead men's bones. You think Gnosticism resurfaced for no reason? Our works were tried by fire and stood the test. Your works have been tried by our patience and nothing more.

[pandirasbox]

Jesus is not God the Father, Christ is one in nature with God, not Jesus. Jesus is one in nature with literally physically dead men. God is pure light and "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of the Father." Ephesians proves that Paul used flesh and blood to refer to matter. Not that you would ever dare read it in context because you tow the party line. Jesus referred to matter as dead and the spirit as alive as did Paul. Open your eyes blind man or fall into the pit.

[pandirasbox]

The oldest copy of Mark, and the epistle to the Hebrews contain the adoptionist theology regarding Jesus, as do Paul's authentic letters of which the pastorals are not included. There are between 6-7 that are legit but tampered with in the nomina sacra, the introductions, and the endings. You toot the horn of heresy hunters like Irenaeus because you are carnal and worship a dead man rather than the Father and you blaspheme the Holy Spirit by not discerning Christs body from Jesus'.

[pandirasbox]

Christ is the son of God, the Logos, who was begotten of God and was with God in the beginning, through whom all things were made. Yes there is Jesus the man, Christ the Logos and Savior/ redeemer, God the Father, YHWH the mediator or angel of the lord, then there is Gods wisdom Sophia, and this is the Holy spirit. Theophilus taught that the Trinity was Father, Logos, and Sophia and he was Orthodox. Luke-Acts was written to him in the late second century. These facts are in writing from of old.

[pandirasbox]

If you look at Irenaeus' understanding of the Docetic doctrine, he takes it as if Christ was the Jewish Messiah, an earhtly king. Yet, he follows Cerinthus, a pseudo-Gnostic "super apostle" who pretended Revelations from John the apostle. This is one of the darker secrets of the Orthodox. Then when you read Paul, you see that Christ was resurrected and Jesus suffered. They manipulated the nomina sacra of the scriptures with some water and ink. You lack understanding and are quick to judge.

[pandirasbox]

First of all, you have a strong misunderstanding of Docetism. All Gnostics held to this belief or doctrine. They saw Christ as the Logos, separate from Jesus. John was their favorite gospel alongside Mark and Paul's. They saw Jesus as a man adopted by God at his baptism where he received Christ. Christ was resurrected and appeared to suffer and be a man. Jesus was a man and did suffer. Their natures did not intertwine but Gods will dominated Jesus' actions and teaching by influence.

[turtle4aire]

When the Gnostics say the the God of the Old Testiment is not the same God of the New Testiment ! Gnostics just lost it with me ! Everything from now on is just False to me when you say the word Gnostic at all. When you talk to me about the Gnostics to me, Please save your breath !

[astrofrk]

As a Gnostic Christian (And I will claim both), I think we will all be surprised who will/will not find the Kingdom. I think you will find other faiths because what matters is Love, notice I never mentioned Judgement... that's not our job as Gnostics or Christians. Yeshua said the greatest commandment is that we Love one another. He said nothing about following pastors, he never told us to go to church. He told us to BE the church. This man has no authority over me as a Gnostic Christian.

[GrooveDoctor77]

Religions differ and war is proof , remember that Constantine as well as king James edited the bible to intertwine it with politics ...oh the stories of the Catholics selling tickets to heaven, or burning of heretics , what about proof of ETs ,do they read the bible? did native Americans or aborigines or africans read the bible?are the Gnostics correct saying this world is full of suffering ? Christianity and Gnostism differ but true Gnostics didnt invent war,taxes,or materialism

[astrofrk]

Speaking as a Christian Gnostic, you got just about everything wrong in my beliefs.

Jesus IS the son of God. However, the Old Testament God was just humanity doing what it still does today: "God told me to...! God told me to slaughter Canannite

babies and then hold a faith that's pro-life!" Who are you, who's decendents slaughtered Gnostic Christians (children included) till extinct to tell me I don't know Christ? He is within me, I know him well. What do you know?

[Domodeath]

@astrofrk You`ve been deceived

[Gideon6640man]

@astrofrk You are either a Christian or a Gnostic, the two do not match. It's silly to say. Gnostics are in direct opposition to the teachings of Christ,the Apostle Paul,Peter and John.

[GrooveDoctor77]

@astrofrk Truth is not handled well by Christians ,well said,.. Im a Christian Gnostic also and the stories and misconceptions of the teachings of Jesus will never be understood by the orthodox Christians about 1,000 different sects or more , that blast the notions of Jesuses inner teachings about this flawed material world where everyone is at war ,and how the teachings help eliminate the pain of hundreds of religions killing eachother