im so glad this happened almost 20 years a go and yes animal testing is still around but its much beter then this barbabric curlty i feel like animal testing is both good and bad it helps cure diseases but its also very stuiped if its used for things like cosmetics sorry but my beauty is not worth and animal or animals to suffer for thats y i only use cosmetics that dont test on animals and there not easy to find i hope some day we wont need animal testing
This video was done in 1983. Why is it still being shown as if it happened yesterday? What people do not realize is most of these cruel experiments no longer happen. I believe animal testing is still going on, but things that were happening 28 years ago are not happening now. Get some RECIENT footage and then lets see what is true. I do not like cruelty in any form, I love all animals. But I also love the TRUTH. Don't take what someone else says as fact, look for yourslef.
People like this need to dig there own graves with pictures of their families, sit at the edge of the hole, and be shot in the back until they fall inside the hole, and that's putting it mildly.
this is why the monster Gennarelli and Penn Institute were damned and condemned! FOR EXPERIMENTING ON LIVE, UNANAESTHETISED ANIMALS!!!! this is WHY i became a hardcore ALFie and only one of millions of reasons i will never change! this says a lot about the human race, these experiments degrade us as people when we tolerate this! VIVISECTION IS BARBARIC, FRAUDULENT SCIENCE and every time somebody goes undercover we see that nothing has changed! we don't deserve to benefit from this savagery!
@mishka1305 I'm 34 years old, and in the last two weeks I've gone from curious to determined in being an "ALFie" as you nput it. I s it easy to join their group?
i dont hear any animal loving jerk off's talk about murdering babies dai;y from abortion, ogh i forgot it is a womens choice to be a slutty whore, sowwy
You really are a fucking retard. Is an acorn a tree? No. Is a seed a flower? No. There is a MASSIVE difference between drilling into a monkeys brain, stabbing monkeys many times to see the effects (WTF did they expect?) and flushing out an embryo that has no thought, feeling or even a fucking brain.
Doctors (and I use the term lightly for the people in this video.) like this are sick evil and twisted. I don't care what knowledge or experience they gain from experiments like this. con
con. because every thing they gain will not help ANY person suffering from brain damage. If I myself where to suffer brain damage, I would want one thing, to be killed.
I am nothing but sickened and ashamed to call my self human when I hear of things like this and the "Pit of despair" experiments. I can only hope that the cancer that is man will be destroyed from this world quickly.
@Ihatemonkeys6666: I think that statement is too deterministic. It's not like there is only 1 conceivable path to any given innovation (i.e. airbags) and if you don't take it, you will never have that innovation.
There are always other ways, other experiments which could be done, other inventors who could conceive of, and build, a new product. It is a logical fallacy to say - retroactively - that these experiments were necessary.
i've seen, and done some horrific shit to people in my life, and an animal. i had to smash a Staffordshire bull terrier's head in with a sledge hammer, but this makes even me cringe.
probably cause these things did nowt to deserve this.
i suppose shit happens, tho i'd be questioning my career choice if i was one of these fellas, regardless of the pay
At 2:07 "A fluid, perhaps acid" yeah, and perhaps water. The other guy said acid, and the guy handling the baboon got it on himself, so I highly doubt it was acid. Again try to make it worse, remove creditability.
In the wild, these things get disaeses, and die all the time. When a new leader takes over he kills all the babies so the females go in heat and mate with him. I have seen a mama throw her baby at a predator to save herself. These baboons are not pets, they are wild animals.
You should tag this video better. It does not come up when I searched baboon, UPenn, University Pennsylvania, trauma, head injury, or cruelty. No one's ever going to see it unless they're specifically searching the title.
Look, people, the problem is not that the monkeys are used for scientific research, the problem is that the workers (OR SCINETISTS, MHM) are dumbasses in general. They make mistakes on purpose to see the animals suffer, they don't follow the rules of such experiments and they don't induce painkillers or other medicine during the experiment to make the animal unconscious or at least pain-free.
kabrones sin sentimientos ESTO NO NO ES NECESARIO NI DEMUESTRA NADA;SOLO EL SUFRIMIENTO DE ESTE Y OTROS ANIMALES KE HABEIS UTILIZADO Y UTILIZAREIS SOLO PARA TORTURARLOS Y PAGAR VUESTRAS FUSTRACIONES X O ESTO NO ES ADELA NTO PARA LO KE LLAMAIS CIENCIA.
i am ashamed to call myself a human! how can we be so evil time after time! its like we never learn of ouer mistakes?! how can this be okay? how can a normal human being with respect for them self, do this kind of things to God´s creatures? i really dont onderstand how? one thing is for shure, when they die there is gonna bee some angry people waiting for them on the other side! i really hope they can try this for them self!!
@lokumspoet961: Honestly, I think we're better off leaving talk of God and religion out of this.
After all, one religion says one thing, another says another. Some religions advocate inter-species equality, while others explicitly say that animals and the Earth are under humans' domain.
If we want equality, we have to fight for it ourselves.
@lokumspoet961 I agree. What does it mean to be human? Partly we think, we know how to be humane to other creatures on our lovely planet. Well, Its not humane to conduct cruel experiments. I couldnt watch all this video because of the helpless expression on that poor animals face...awww. I kept thinking I wanted it to die in its sleep, to free it from further pain and suffering. What if it was the other way around, that animals experimented on us? hmmm
@JessieBTyson What if we were invaded from outer space by bigger, stronger beings who wanted to keep us in farms to harvest us for our meat, perform experiments on us, etc.?
2:01 - "poor handling results in a fluid, perhaps acid, being spilled on the animal"
...Right, because scientists just happen to have open containers of acid just lying around right next to the table they're performing tests on a monkey on. Whoever wrote the script for this is fucking retarded. That line makes me want to bash the narrator in the face for being such an idiot.
Some testing is necessary, but some is just stupid bull shit! In England they once tested how dogs react to smoke, WHY do we need to know that, and those poor animals lost their lives!
Would you prefer them to test on human subjects? At least their is a better use for this than fashion. A lot has been learned from testing medication and medical procedures on animals that have subsequently saved many human lives. I disagree with the wholesale slaughter of animals for style purposes like fur clothing and leather interior for cars, but medical testing is a necessity. And Ingrid Newkirk is a psycho who put animal rights in a higher regard than human life. Fuck PETA.
The ALF STOLE this video form UP. We were never meant to see it. The monsters conducting these experiments have yet to be identified and brought to justice. If you recognize any of them, there is a reward for such information.
so what are you saying please, do you think it cruel to mistreat bacteria in a lab. i have to admit i kill mosquitos and cockroaches automaticaly, probably because they can both pass on disease to humans but im always quick and 'humane', bacteria however, oh man if i ever saw anyone abusing bacteria i dont think id be responsible for my own actions i mean come. in fact i think i shall break into a lab and rescue some before those horrible scientists turn it into medicine
i see iv got one thunbs down its true though. what are you going to do next lobby the Thai government to bring in new legislation banning certain thai cooking traditions for example skinning cats alive and droping them still alive into pans of water and bringing them to boil. try to get that banned the whole of thailand would point at you and laugh yet you make such a song and dance over one monkey in a lab.
But the point is it's NOT a necessary evil. Although I strongly support alternatives to animal testing, it is inevitable that some animal tests must be conducted. However, there are laws governing animal testing. The "fuss" in this video is that these experiments were unreasonably cruel, and carried out in an inhumane fashion. When these videos were examined by a court, the clinic was found guilty of violating animal testing ethics and shut down.
Animal research is awful but until a viable alternative can be found it is a necessary evil. What it really comes down to is the perpetuation of our species via the explotation of another. Our very evolution has been and will be contingent upon this.
@associate39 Humans have been carving into primates for millenia already. Maybe not for scientific purposes but as a foodsource. Just because you only eat a fraction of what is available in this world doesn't mean that the opportunistic tribesmen of yesteryear didn't eat bushmeat. Do you think twice before smashing a housefly, mosquito, rat...etc?
@zmbdlx ... I don't bash people for eating meat. We are all killers. I'm a killer. I buy and cook meat for my family. I choose not to eat it. I do think twice before I kill anything. If I can get it outside I do.
@associate39 What about your immune system killing off innumerable microorganisms? I'm sure you taken advantage of antiboitics at some point. If you don't eat meat you at least eat plants. They are a living entity also. Do you argue for their justice as well?
@zmbdlx ...A fourth of our medicine comes from the rain forest. I'm pretty sure the tribal people that live there figured these things out without poisoning monkeys to death with them. We don't need to break a baboons neck to know if we get in a car accident we could get hurt or die. Have you seen the movie Earthlings?
@associate39 That may be true but they also tend to live significantly shorter lifespans than people in industrialized locations. So I am not exactly sure what they have "figured out". In order to treat or cure you must understand the nature of pathology/trauma. There are so many human actions that cause death of other "Earthlings". Why does this one in particular bother you? Is it because you could never bring yourself to do it?
@XOPAUXO In vitro cells must be harvested from either loose muscle cells or structured muscles of living organisms. The technology is not perfected and cost multiples of what conventional animal testing requires. Besides, it's more of a food alternative that a test specimen. It's sounds like a bad idea to me.
@zmbdlx - absolutely agree. There are serial killers and all kinds of scum in prisons that owe a debt to society. They can repay their debt by assisting medical research that will benefit innocent people or animals. I feel this would be more civilized than using innocent animals that never harmed anyone and most certainly don't deserve what is done to them.
@zmbdlx how can you say something like that you moron?!!!you piece of shit?and don't you dare generalize this,even wars are sometimes a necessary evil,and yes killing an animal or a human can often be justified ,but this??? just tell me in what way does this assist the prolongation of human species??you know nothing of life of pain you have no sense of justice no empathy no moral standards ....I feel sorry for you dude ,you obviously never heard that the end actually doesn't justify the means
@zmbdlx 1 -I don't like the term western medicine for it suggests that only western countries and scientists had a say in its evolution and progress and more importantly that the contribution of the recent medical discoveries far exceeds the importance of the discoveries made in the earlier epochs (treatments with leeches and incantations not included xD ) ... 2.I'm not against all animal research but this kind of cruel and unnecessary practices always leaves me speechless ...
@SlobodanSlobodanovic So some animal life can be used for research as long as it's alright with you? Didn't anybody ever tell you that the ends don't justify the means?
@zmbdlx you seem to have a problem understanding what is written,I said some treatments can be justified(but rarely those that concern higher mammals or life forms),others(like this one in particular,that inflict pain and serve no greater or distinct purpose)are just animal cruelty-to be able to say that you are more interested in the physical development & aspect of the human race rather than evolution of the concern for the life in general is what makes you sound so superficial and ignorant
@SlobodanSlobodanovic So then what can we experiment on? Life without thumbs? Life that is coldblooded? Life that microscopic? Life that has a genome so different from our own that it makes you feel okay with the loss of their life? Other than the biased spin of this film, do you know what the data for these experiments are used for? Ignorance is avoiding the bigger picture here. If you eat meat, live in a house, take medicine, drive an automobile, or use electricity you're a exploiter too
@zmbdlx bhahahah just because I use some of the comforts of the modern age and behave according to cultural and moral influences doesn't mean I'm gonna agree that killing innocent animals in the name of a "higher" science is legitimate and ok ....Every living thing on our planet uses and as u say exploits resources that are around it...exploits other beings for its survival .Now that u mention it why not ??? Why doesn't science try to find a different way of experimenting and probing???
I'm not trying to act like a saint and claim that with knowledge we possess today we can prevent animals to be murdered for our own needs,and not use what is around us to make our lives better,it is the essence of life -using various methods to insure survival but I would be so happy as to know in which discipline of medicine and in what way are these particular "experiments" used ,why are they so necessary for our survival and evolution and how exactly will they help us...moral dilemmas aside
@la1rose dumbass and when over 100 hours of film exist and 2 minutes are shown, there's a reason. I'm not FOR cruelty to animals, I just think that PETA are a bunch of lunatics that run a shady operation. Without animal testing, Disease research would cease to exist, that's a cold hard fact.
@bphutchins YOU ARE RIGHT! These vids are edited to make it look as bad as they can. It removed all the intregity of the narrrator. Why try to make it look worse and lie about it? The vid speaks for its self. Needless to say it is an old video. These kind of "test" are not used anymore. Through editing and narration, you can make anything look bad or good. What if they edited out the actual injury, and just said a "brain injured baboon" ,you might think it occured naturaly
@zmbdlx how can you say something like that you moron?!!!you piece of shit?and don't you dare generalize this,even wars are sometimes a necessary evil,and yes killing an animal or a human can often be justified ,but this??? just tell me in what way does this assist the prolongation of human species??you know nothing of life of pain you have no sense of justice no empathy no moral standards ....I feel sorry for you dude ,you obviously never heard that the end actually doesn't justify the means
@zmbdlx There are alternatives, but that's beside the point, "necessary evil"? Are you kidding me? What was this monstrosity achieving? Is the human race going to go extinct if we don't find a cure for this disease or the next? Why exactly is it alright to test on animals, but not the mentally disabled, or children, with lower degrees of intelligence? Give it a thought.
@orangejuuz If you have to ask why is it ok for these vermin and not mentally disabled humans, I could not explain it to you other than you would be one that they test on.
Again these vids are from late 70's and early 1980's. They don't do this anymore.
Your statment about testing on children is so stupid it doesn't deserve a reply.
This "monstrosity" was testing head injury's in auto accidents. When you drive your new car, it is designed around these test, so your using it.
@junkintrunk55 In other words, you have no good answer other than "because we say it's alright".Despite the fact that many of these animals that are being tested on are in fact more intelligent than disabled people, or children,it's still okay to test on the animals because "we say it's alright."Or perhaps you'd come up with some other equally negligible response,such as "humans have families".That argument is also beside the point,and these animals also have families who they're separated from.
@orangejuuz Well orange jizz, These test were done in the late 70's and early 1980's, so they are all over. You missed it. In your confusing speach, you fail to sway arguments your way by being far too silly to be taken seriously. If you want to test on humans and human children, you are the monster you claim these people to be. Primates are not intelligent or sentient. They are wild animals, and if killing 1000 of them saves one human, then I'm for it.
@junkintrunk55 Quite obviously I don't want testing carried out on any being; I pointed out a flaw in your argument about why it's alright to test on animals but not humans, and you've given me no counter argument other than "you're arguments are silly." As I've said, primates are irrefutably more intelligent than many humans, and perhaps you should look up the definition of sentient, because to claim that primates aren't sentient is just laughable.
@orangejuuz You know, your not going to see any argument that goes against what you say, I never said it was right to test on any animal, I am very much against it. If you think primates are more intelligent than humans, I am not going to sway anyone so idiotic. If a primate was truly sentient, they would be self-aware They are not, again they operate on instinct and reaction. I see from your replies that you aren't even trying to argue, just insult, You are not worth my time, bye!
@junkintrunk55 And now you're putting words into my mouth. I suggest you learn the definition of sentience. Human-level intelligence, consciousness and sentience and three completely different terms. If you're claiming that primates aren't sentient, then you're claiming that humans aren't sentient to a certain age in childhood, and that many mentally disabled people are never sentient. Sentience is a mere perception of the senses, a mouse, recently even lobsters, are considered sentient.
well. we cannot test animal based pathogens on plants as that wouldnt accomplish shit all. If you want to volunteer yourself or have a small chinese orphanage you would like us to test on instead of animals feel free to offer. otherwise go back to your sprout eating hippy loving ways, bible-bunkers.
no greater medical advancements have ever been made to the scale and usefullness than during ww2 and the nazi and japanese human experiments. its sick wrong and i in no way condone it but the fact remains in the end it saved countless lives. how strange this godless world can be
And while we gain from CERTAIN research, there is NOTHING humane about this. Nothing at all. Maybe to all you selfish fucks there is, but in reality, like Danzig said, we're getting nowhere from this.
Medicine can only GAIN from not using animal experiments - for example, cancer in mice has been cured - but researches continue to test cancer on mice in the pathetic hope that they will someday cure human cancer WITH A MOUSE.
I'm all for animals being treated w respect but peta edited this out of 60 hours down to 25min and the acid they refer to is acualy water. peta also kills 2/3 of the animals they save and without animals research we would lose around 80% of med research. people with disease's would die.
yes i no, you commented a week ago, but i want to make a point:
PETA may have edited it, but they didn't make it up. the monkies, even if it were 2 out of 100, were still treated like this. PETA must've had to kill some because they were too mentally unstable to life to its fullest.
and yes people with disease's would die, but wouldn't that make us selfish, killing other living beings just for our own survival? its sick.
theres other ways to find cures for diseases. not just animal testing
And you're a selfish person. So bad crimes like these are to perpetuate people like you. It's so unfair and so typical of our days. This will end someday.
@maiden666guitar that is a very good idea. however you would see just as much suffering in a thai kitchen. ever seen them skin a cat alive then drop it in a pan of very hot but not boiling water, the damn thing swims around for a good while and it happens all the time. it will have happened in the time it has taken me to write this.
@Litmus2336 you must have family in prison, that are scum maybe, and don't want them to be subjected to this type of cruelty. What did these animals do to deserve such punishment?
@maiden666guitar The animals didn't deserve any of this, but if an animal doesn't deserve it what makes it right to perform it on anyting else, even a human. If you advocate torture of criminals, you are the true scum.
@maiden666guitar: I agree that it is disgusting, but then you fall into the very same mindset as the experimenters with your second comment!
There is NO JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER for this sort of inhumane, degrading punishment on ANYONE. Not even rapists, murderers, or whatever evil people you can envision.
That is the ultimate message to be taken from this video - it isn't "If you're going to be a monster, find deserving targets", it is "Don't be a monster. Period!"
wow! This added to the most recent HSUS investigation just goes to show - the needless cruelty to animals in labs is still in full swing. That we are paying for these kinds of barbaric experiments with our taxes is infuriating - Empty the cages - Go Vegan.
Yeah, this video was edited extremely-- in reality, the vast majority of these primates were not treated this badly (148/150), and 25 errors in vocal recordings were recorded, but this is still pretty inhumane and gruesome stuff.
without this type of scientific research, as well as the 'atrocities' carried out by nazi and japanese imperial scientists, we would still be blood-letting and clutching charms to healpeople.
Even some researchers will admit that only between 5 and 25% of experiments are beneficial to humans. The truth is out there. Try reading "Sacred Cows and Golden Geese" or going to Physicians for Responsible Medicine website. These "experiments" are done to get published, obtain tenure and draw in grant money from the taxpayer. 92% of drugs tested on animals fail human clinical trials. Of those that pass 50% are recalled or relabeled. 100,000 Americans die every year from bad drugs.
5-25% are fantastic numbers for successful and useful research. You should be proud that humanity has reached a level of genious where progress can be achieved through such research, and that you have the higher intellectual faculties to project empathy onto lesser creatures.
geo: OH! So you believe in the bible now, right? That is the basis for humanities view that animals are "lesser" beings. What proof do you actually have that they are? Every distinction that scientists have placed between animals and us has been disproven time after time. Only an arrogant fool assumes that by virtue of birth he is somehow more valuable than any other creature. Here I thought you believed in evolution and that we all sprang from a common ancestor.You can't have it both ways.
I am anti-religious. I base my facts that we are a higher taxon than other animals because evolutionarily, biologically, mentally, we are superiour. That I was born a human of human parentage makes me superiour to a fish, a dog, a centipede, etcetera.
Where exactly did you get the concept that you were superior? Animals are used in experiments to duplicate diseases in humans, right? Logic dictates that if you believe that we are animals and all animals come from a common ancestor then all animals have the capacity for emotions, distress and pain. This is being born out by scientific research BTW. So, by what nonbiased ethical standard can you (in scientific terms) determine that one animal has more worth to this planet than another?
Superior in what way? All we're good at is being dumb sadists... We're not intelligent in the sense that we understand things we have knowledge but we're too stupid to understand it, we've brains but we're to dumb to use them and we've creativity to use things but we're too stupid to separate it from intelligence. You just like jerking off to this shit and your own reflection cause you're sick!
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I empathize with huamns undergoing similar tortures. I love anmials and enjoy their service and presence, and part of their use is for scxientific and medical purposes. These animals were bred for study, not to be oogled at a zoo, without these studies these animals would not be alive.
All animals would live very well if we just left them alone, they survived perfectly all those milions of years before man came. Why would you claim this is good for the animals? Is this how they should save human kind once we die? If you got cancer should we do this to you then? You seem to have a brain damage already so what's the point?!
r u blind!? CorridorOfTruth is trying to make a point!!! how would u like it if we did this kind of stuff to u!? or what if this was happening to some of ur friends or family while u just stood there and watched!?
A scientific theory isn't like an "idea." It's basically the same as a fact, but it's not the sort of thing that has a definite truth to it (such as time, date, temperature, etc). Example of theory: Germ Theory. If you get a germ, you will get sick.
Now before I start I'd like to say that the behavior of these scientists is disgusting and inexcusable but this was 26 minutes of six hours of footage. After all the footage was later examined it was found that this was the only thing that happened and the rest was humane testing. Humane as it gets anyway. But if I ever got my hands on those dumb asses... they would be worse off then the monkey...
The true tragedy is that this type of abuse continues in laboratories to this day. While footage such as this gives the public a glimpse into what actually goes on behind the locked laboratory doors it does not slow down the sadistic "researchers", they just use it as an excuse to increase security to make it difficult for similar footage and other evidence to be made public.
The researchers need to feel just a small amount of the pain the animals do.
What are they doing? This is wrong. I understand that people want to find treatments and so on, but this is just awful...I dont understand why they have to make the animal suffer like that. They should be free. This should be forbidden!
Sadly a great deal of our scientific knowledge in the field of medicine is based on gruesome experiments such as these. Its just a matter of where to draw the line, of whether you do this to animals, to human beings (as joseph mengele so gleefully did,) or not do it at all. I know where i draw the line...
y don't u fuckin bitches go out and do some thing about it all u do is bitch o poor animal i didint hear that much shit about the fuckin The Holocaust u fuckin people make me fuckin sick all peta does is take money and say they are doin something but that is not true u people should learn before the animals it was human beans learn your history
look u peta baster i want u to know when the anti christ comes and u get the chip inplanted in your head and u will burn in the abyss me the christan will be in heaven laughing while u dumbasses burn go to church bitch
I came back here because I wanted to apologize for being so harsh in my words. Truth is, it's not me to wish bad on any living being. Essentially, that's why I'm here in the first place. Even though these events took place decades ago, I can't let go of the anguish I feel knowing that these lives were subjected to TORTURE at our (human) hands. IF, just IF you can find anything about this that you will "be in heaven laughing" about, God save your soul, one Christian to another...
Note that investigation of this film showed that PETA "greatly overstated" some claims. The "acid" that spilled on the monkey in the video was actually water.
No. It was simply found that there was insufficient proof that the "acid" was not water, although the filmed researcher does say that it is acid in the video.
2:14 It most definitely isn't acid. There would be no reason for it in the lab.
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im so glad this happened almost 20 years a go and yes animal testing is still around but its much beter then this barbabric curlty i feel like animal testing is both good and bad it helps cure diseases but its also very stuiped if its used for things like cosmetics sorry but my beauty is not worth and animal or animals to suffer for thats y i only use cosmetics that dont test on animals and there not easy to find i hope some day we wont need animal testing
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2:38 That sure sounds like animal cruelty to me (That was sarcastic)
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This video was done in 1983. Why is it still being shown as if it happened yesterday? What people do not realize is most of these cruel experiments no longer happen. I believe animal testing is still going on, but things that were happening 28 years ago are not happening now. Get some RECIENT footage and then lets see what is true. I do not like cruelty in any form, I love all animals. But I also love the TRUTH. Don't take what someone else says as fact, look for yourslef.
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People like this need to dig there own graves with pictures of their families, sit at the edge of the hole, and be shot in the back until they fall inside the hole, and that's putting it mildly.
TheModdersChannel 8 months ago
@1221solstice2012 Woz hoping these guys had had a slow cancerous painful death!!
Tormiddx 9 months ago
@Tormiddx You & me both. But they'll get what they have coming, eventually. Balance/Karma/Justice...yes.
1221solstice2012 9 months ago
this is why the monster Gennarelli and Penn Institute were damned and condemned! FOR EXPERIMENTING ON LIVE, UNANAESTHETISED ANIMALS!!!! this is WHY i became a hardcore ALFie and only one of millions of reasons i will never change! this says a lot about the human race, these experiments degrade us as people when we tolerate this! VIVISECTION IS BARBARIC, FRAUDULENT SCIENCE and every time somebody goes undercover we see that nothing has changed! we don't deserve to benefit from this savagery!
mishka1305 9 months ago
@mishka1305 I'm 34 years old, and in the last two weeks I've gone from curious to determined in being an "ALFie" as you nput it. I s it easy to join their group?
Cobe1976 7 months ago
i dont hear any animal loving jerk off's talk about murdering babies dai;y from abortion, ogh i forgot it is a womens choice to be a slutty whore, sowwy
racrx32 10 months ago
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You really are a fucking retard. Is an acorn a tree? No. Is a seed a flower? No. There is a MASSIVE difference between drilling into a monkeys brain, stabbing monkeys many times to see the effects (WTF did they expect?) and flushing out an embryo that has no thought, feeling or even a fucking brain.
Doctors (and I use the term lightly for the people in this video.) like this are sick evil and twisted. I don't care what knowledge or experience they gain from experiments like this. con
KoFDee 9 months ago
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con. because every thing they gain will not help ANY person suffering from brain damage. If I myself where to suffer brain damage, I would want one thing, to be killed.
I am nothing but sickened and ashamed to call my self human when I hear of things like this and the "Pit of despair" experiments. I can only hope that the cancer that is man will be destroyed from this world quickly.
KoFDee 9 months ago
@KoFDee There's not much difference between the researchers in this video and the Nazi doctors in German death camps.
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@Ihatemonkeys6666: I think that statement is too deterministic. It's not like there is only 1 conceivable path to any given innovation (i.e. airbags) and if you don't take it, you will never have that innovation.
There are always other ways, other experiments which could be done, other inventors who could conceive of, and build, a new product. It is a logical fallacy to say - retroactively - that these experiments were necessary.
BeverlyHills2ndGen 1 year ago
i've seen, and done some horrific shit to people in my life, and an animal. i had to smash a Staffordshire bull terrier's head in with a sledge hammer, but this makes even me cringe.
probably cause these things did nowt to deserve this.
i suppose shit happens, tho i'd be questioning my career choice if i was one of these fellas, regardless of the pay
godkingRoss 1 year ago
At 2:07 "A fluid, perhaps acid" yeah, and perhaps water. The other guy said acid, and the guy handling the baboon got it on himself, so I highly doubt it was acid. Again try to make it worse, remove creditability.
In the wild, these things get disaeses, and die all the time. When a new leader takes over he kills all the babies so the females go in heat and mate with him. I have seen a mama throw her baby at a predator to save herself. These baboons are not pets, they are wild animals.
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
killers
tereziaildiko 1 year ago
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magguinha70 1 year ago
You should tag this video better. It does not come up when I searched baboon, UPenn, University Pennsylvania, trauma, head injury, or cruelty. No one's ever going to see it unless they're specifically searching the title.
Tucuxi3 1 year ago 10
Nice test in music
SonsoftheProphets 1 year ago
The name "UNNECESSARY FUSS" came from a comment made by Dr. Thomas Gennarelli to the Globe.
dsc631 1 year ago
Look, people, the problem is not that the monkeys are used for scientific research, the problem is that the workers (OR SCINETISTS, MHM) are dumbasses in general. They make mistakes on purpose to see the animals suffer, they don't follow the rules of such experiments and they don't induce painkillers or other medicine during the experiment to make the animal unconscious or at least pain-free.
bestechbg 1 year ago
kabrones sin sentimientos ESTO NO NO ES NECESARIO NI DEMUESTRA NADA;SOLO EL SUFRIMIENTO DE ESTE Y OTROS ANIMALES KE HABEIS UTILIZADO Y UTILIZAREIS SOLO PARA TORTURARLOS Y PAGAR VUESTRAS FUSTRACIONES X O ESTO NO ES ADELA NTO PARA LO KE LLAMAIS CIENCIA.
XAFardero 1 year ago
i am ashamed to call myself a human! how can we be so evil time after time! its like we never learn of ouer mistakes?! how can this be okay? how can a normal human being with respect for them self, do this kind of things to God´s creatures? i really dont onderstand how? one thing is for shure, when they die there is gonna bee some angry people waiting for them on the other side! i really hope they can try this for them self!!
lokumspoet961 1 year ago 3
@lokumspoet961: Honestly, I think we're better off leaving talk of God and religion out of this.
After all, one religion says one thing, another says another. Some religions advocate inter-species equality, while others explicitly say that animals and the Earth are under humans' domain.
If we want equality, we have to fight for it ourselves.
BeverlyHills2ndGen 1 year ago
@lokumspoet961 I agree. What does it mean to be human? Partly we think, we know how to be humane to other creatures on our lovely planet. Well, Its not humane to conduct cruel experiments. I couldnt watch all this video because of the helpless expression on that poor animals face...awww. I kept thinking I wanted it to die in its sleep, to free it from further pain and suffering. What if it was the other way around, that animals experimented on us? hmmm
JessieBTyson 9 months ago
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@JessieBTyson What if we were invaded from outer space by bigger, stronger beings who wanted to keep us in farms to harvest us for our meat, perform experiments on us, etc.?
Cobe1976 7 months ago
f**cking snuff film
demonikmagic 1 year ago
"It's gonna eat your balls off"
Lololol.
LovelyYTRocks 1 year ago
Every single one of those students and researchers in that video need to die a fiery death.
Tucuxi3 1 year ago
2:01 - "poor handling results in a fluid, perhaps acid, being spilled on the animal"
...Right, because scientists just happen to have open containers of acid just lying around right next to the table they're performing tests on a monkey on. Whoever wrote the script for this is fucking retarded. That line makes me want to bash the narrator in the face for being such an idiot.
dizzious 1 year ago 2
Some testing is necessary, but some is just stupid bull shit! In England they once tested how dogs react to smoke, WHY do we need to know that, and those poor animals lost their lives!
bmjunge27 1 year ago
Would you prefer them to test on human subjects? At least their is a better use for this than fashion. A lot has been learned from testing medication and medical procedures on animals that have subsequently saved many human lives. I disagree with the wholesale slaughter of animals for style purposes like fur clothing and leather interior for cars, but medical testing is a necessity. And Ingrid Newkirk is a psycho who put animal rights in a higher regard than human life. Fuck PETA.
murderface414 1 year ago
would you rather they test on humans? Because peta would. they're all fucking wackjob psychos.
murderface414 1 year ago 2
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you..."
Howlinatthemoon 1 year ago
The ALF STOLE this video form UP. We were never meant to see it. The monsters conducting these experiments have yet to be identified and brought to justice. If you recognize any of them, there is a reward for such information.
excommando1 2 years ago
According to wikipedia this film has been extensivley doctored. I'm against animal testing but you should be very careful of anything PETA tells you.
eateroftheflame 2 years ago
This is real though, they were assholes to those animals and deserve to be put away for a long time.
Asiancomedian 2 years ago 2
Agreed, though personally I prefer other animal charities over PETA.
eateroftheflame 2 years ago
how about lab cockroach/ mosquitos/ bacteria etc, never seen a campaign for one. You all doublespeaking doublestandard hypocrat specists.
you evolutionary nazi
BovrilKetchup 2 years ago
so what are you saying please, do you think it cruel to mistreat bacteria in a lab. i have to admit i kill mosquitos and cockroaches automaticaly, probably because they can both pass on disease to humans but im always quick and 'humane', bacteria however, oh man if i ever saw anyone abusing bacteria i dont think id be responsible for my own actions i mean come. in fact i think i shall break into a lab and rescue some before those horrible scientists turn it into medicine
gluepot66 2 years ago
How much I hate these people. Hopefully they don't represent the totally of human kind. Go injure your ass, souless science whores!
Stenopelmatus 2 years ago
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gluepot66 2 years ago
i see iv got one thunbs down its true though. what are you going to do next lobby the Thai government to bring in new legislation banning certain thai cooking traditions for example skinning cats alive and droping them still alive into pans of water and bringing them to boil. try to get that banned the whole of thailand would point at you and laugh yet you make such a song and dance over one monkey in a lab.
gluepot66 2 years ago
But the point is it's NOT a necessary evil. Although I strongly support alternatives to animal testing, it is inevitable that some animal tests must be conducted. However, there are laws governing animal testing. The "fuss" in this video is that these experiments were unreasonably cruel, and carried out in an inhumane fashion. When these videos were examined by a court, the clinic was found guilty of violating animal testing ethics and shut down.
Offertory 2 years ago
I can see that animal testing is necessary to save human lives, but these people don't even seem COMPETENT.
irrisorie7 2 years ago
Lol, STFU hippies
poiuytroop 2 years ago
Animal research is awful but until a viable alternative can be found it is a necessary evil. What it really comes down to is the perpetuation of our species via the explotation of another. Our very evolution has been and will be contingent upon this.
zmbdlx 2 years ago
@zmbdlx
i also agree
uk111393 2 years ago
@zmbdlx ...I wonder how we * humans* managed to stay alive thousands of years without carving into live primates?
associate39 1 year ago
@associate39 Humans have been carving into primates for millenia already. Maybe not for scientific purposes but as a foodsource. Just because you only eat a fraction of what is available in this world doesn't mean that the opportunistic tribesmen of yesteryear didn't eat bushmeat. Do you think twice before smashing a housefly, mosquito, rat...etc?
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx ... I don't bash people for eating meat. We are all killers. I'm a killer. I buy and cook meat for my family. I choose not to eat it. I do think twice before I kill anything. If I can get it outside I do.
associate39 1 year ago
@associate39 What about your immune system killing off innumerable microorganisms? I'm sure you taken advantage of antiboitics at some point. If you don't eat meat you at least eat plants. They are a living entity also. Do you argue for their justice as well?
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx ...A fourth of our medicine comes from the rain forest. I'm pretty sure the tribal people that live there figured these things out without poisoning monkeys to death with them. We don't need to break a baboons neck to know if we get in a car accident we could get hurt or die. Have you seen the movie Earthlings?
associate39 1 year ago
@associate39 That may be true but they also tend to live significantly shorter lifespans than people in industrialized locations. So I am not exactly sure what they have "figured out". In order to treat or cure you must understand the nature of pathology/trauma. There are so many human actions that cause death of other "Earthlings". Why does this one in particular bother you? Is it because you could never bring yourself to do it?
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx actually there are viable alternatives like in vitro cells and progression computer software...
also like maiden said, the tests would be performed on extreme criminals like child rapists and murders
XOPAUXO 1 year ago
@XOPAUXO In vitro cells must be harvested from either loose muscle cells or structured muscles of living organisms. The technology is not perfected and cost multiples of what conventional animal testing requires. Besides, it's more of a food alternative that a test specimen. It's sounds like a bad idea to me.
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx - absolutely agree. There are serial killers and all kinds of scum in prisons that owe a debt to society. They can repay their debt by assisting medical research that will benefit innocent people or animals. I feel this would be more civilized than using innocent animals that never harmed anyone and most certainly don't deserve what is done to them.
pandaya 1 year ago
@zmbdlx how can you say something like that you moron?!!!you piece of shit?and don't you dare generalize this,even wars are sometimes a necessary evil,and yes killing an animal or a human can often be justified ,but this??? just tell me in what way does this assist the prolongation of human species??you know nothing of life of pain you have no sense of justice no empathy no moral standards ....I feel sorry for you dude ,you obviously never heard that the end actually doesn't justify the means
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
@SlobodanSlobodanovic Let me simply ask you this: Do you (or have you ever) taken advantage of the benefits of Western medicine?
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx 1 -I don't like the term western medicine for it suggests that only western countries and scientists had a say in its evolution and progress and more importantly that the contribution of the recent medical discoveries far exceeds the importance of the discoveries made in the earlier epochs (treatments with leeches and incantations not included xD ) ... 2.I'm not against all animal research but this kind of cruel and unnecessary practices always leaves me speechless ...
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
@SlobodanSlobodanovic So some animal life can be used for research as long as it's alright with you? Didn't anybody ever tell you that the ends don't justify the means?
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx you seem to have a problem understanding what is written,I said some treatments can be justified(but rarely those that concern higher mammals or life forms),others(like this one in particular,that inflict pain and serve no greater or distinct purpose)are just animal cruelty-to be able to say that you are more interested in the physical development & aspect of the human race rather than evolution of the concern for the life in general is what makes you sound so superficial and ignorant
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
@SlobodanSlobodanovic So then what can we experiment on? Life without thumbs? Life that is coldblooded? Life that microscopic? Life that has a genome so different from our own that it makes you feel okay with the loss of their life? Other than the biased spin of this film, do you know what the data for these experiments are used for? Ignorance is avoiding the bigger picture here. If you eat meat, live in a house, take medicine, drive an automobile, or use electricity you're a exploiter too
zmbdlx 1 year ago
@zmbdlx bhahahah just because I use some of the comforts of the modern age and behave according to cultural and moral influences doesn't mean I'm gonna agree that killing innocent animals in the name of a "higher" science is legitimate and ok ....Every living thing on our planet uses and as u say exploits resources that are around it...exploits other beings for its survival .Now that u mention it why not ??? Why doesn't science try to find a different way of experimenting and probing???
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
I'm not trying to act like a saint and claim that with knowledge we possess today we can prevent animals to be murdered for our own needs,and not use what is around us to make our lives better,it is the essence of life -using various methods to insure survival but I would be so happy as to know in which discipline of medicine and in what way are these particular "experiments" used ,why are they so necessary for our survival and evolution and how exactly will they help us...moral dilemmas aside
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
@SlobodanSlobodanovic this film is a lie, do a little research...
bphutchins 1 year ago
@bphutchins so...film lies? dumbuss
la1rose 1 year ago
@la1rose dumbass and when over 100 hours of film exist and 2 minutes are shown, there's a reason. I'm not FOR cruelty to animals, I just think that PETA are a bunch of lunatics that run a shady operation. Without animal testing, Disease research would cease to exist, that's a cold hard fact.
bphutchins 1 year ago
@bphutchins YOU ARE RIGHT! These vids are edited to make it look as bad as they can. It removed all the intregity of the narrrator. Why try to make it look worse and lie about it? The vid speaks for its self. Needless to say it is an old video. These kind of "test" are not used anymore. Through editing and narration, you can make anything look bad or good. What if they edited out the actual injury, and just said a "brain injured baboon" ,you might think it occured naturaly
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
@bphutchins More like several thounsand hours. Thin k, all the research is filmed, so the camera is always running.
In Nazi Germany, they made Hitler look good to the average person, you can edit something to make it look any way you want.
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
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@zmbdlx how can you say something like that you moron?!!!you piece of shit?and don't you dare generalize this,even wars are sometimes a necessary evil,and yes killing an animal or a human can often be justified ,but this??? just tell me in what way does this assist the prolongation of human species??you know nothing of life of pain you have no sense of justice no empathy no moral standards ....I feel sorry for you dude ,you obviously never heard that the end actually doesn't justify the means
SlobodanSlobodanovic 1 year ago
@zmbdlx There are alternatives, but that's beside the point, "necessary evil"? Are you kidding me? What was this monstrosity achieving? Is the human race going to go extinct if we don't find a cure for this disease or the next? Why exactly is it alright to test on animals, but not the mentally disabled, or children, with lower degrees of intelligence? Give it a thought.
orangejuuz 1 year ago
@orangejuuz If you have to ask why is it ok for these vermin and not mentally disabled humans, I could not explain it to you other than you would be one that they test on.
Again these vids are from late 70's and early 1980's. They don't do this anymore.
Your statment about testing on children is so stupid it doesn't deserve a reply.
This "monstrosity" was testing head injury's in auto accidents. When you drive your new car, it is designed around these test, so your using it.
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
@junkintrunk55 In other words, you have no good answer other than "because we say it's alright".Despite the fact that many of these animals that are being tested on are in fact more intelligent than disabled people, or children,it's still okay to test on the animals because "we say it's alright."Or perhaps you'd come up with some other equally negligible response,such as "humans have families".That argument is also beside the point,and these animals also have families who they're separated from.
orangejuuz 1 year ago
@orangejuuz Well orange jizz, These test were done in the late 70's and early 1980's, so they are all over. You missed it. In your confusing speach, you fail to sway arguments your way by being far too silly to be taken seriously. If you want to test on humans and human children, you are the monster you claim these people to be. Primates are not intelligent or sentient. They are wild animals, and if killing 1000 of them saves one human, then I'm for it.
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
@junkintrunk55 Quite obviously I don't want testing carried out on any being; I pointed out a flaw in your argument about why it's alright to test on animals but not humans, and you've given me no counter argument other than "you're arguments are silly." As I've said, primates are irrefutably more intelligent than many humans, and perhaps you should look up the definition of sentient, because to claim that primates aren't sentient is just laughable.
orangejuuz 1 year ago
@orangejuuz You know, your not going to see any argument that goes against what you say, I never said it was right to test on any animal, I am very much against it. If you think primates are more intelligent than humans, I am not going to sway anyone so idiotic. If a primate was truly sentient, they would be self-aware They are not, again they operate on instinct and reaction. I see from your replies that you aren't even trying to argue, just insult, You are not worth my time, bye!
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
@junkintrunk55 And now you're putting words into my mouth. I suggest you learn the definition of sentience. Human-level intelligence, consciousness and sentience and three completely different terms. If you're claiming that primates aren't sentient, then you're claiming that humans aren't sentient to a certain age in childhood, and that many mentally disabled people are never sentient. Sentience is a mere perception of the senses, a mouse, recently even lobsters, are considered sentient.
orangejuuz 1 year ago
@orangejuuz Yeah your sooo smart, you can't have an argue with an idiot like your self. Your right of course..
Now, look up the word BYE.
junkintrunk55 1 year ago
@junkintrunk55 Whatever, seeya later.
orangejuuz 1 year ago
man, this is terrible. hard to watch.
nanoman125 2 years ago
2:15 If that was really acid, the guy would be screaming in pain
Duvmasta 2 years ago
I love how they have to say the rock music is not theirs.
noqa 2 years ago
God what is wrong with these people and these ass holes that believe this is okay. Why can't they see? Why don't they feel?
shelbylhogan 2 years ago
well. we cannot test animal based pathogens on plants as that wouldnt accomplish shit all. If you want to volunteer yourself or have a small chinese orphanage you would like us to test on instead of animals feel free to offer. otherwise go back to your sprout eating hippy loving ways, bible-bunkers.
TheAshWhole 2 years ago
I agree with you however I do enjoy sprouts...
zmbdlx 2 years ago
no greater medical advancements have ever been made to the scale and usefullness than during ww2 and the nazi and japanese human experiments. its sick wrong and i in no way condone it but the fact remains in the end it saved countless lives. how strange this godless world can be
NewZealandParkour 2 years ago
wtf this is so hard to watch
knightj75 2 years ago
And while we gain from CERTAIN research, there is NOTHING humane about this. Nothing at all. Maybe to all you selfish fucks there is, but in reality, like Danzig said, we're getting nowhere from this.
Permafrost 2 years ago
This is fucking sick. To all these bastards thinking this is okay, I hope you rot. Man's demise has come, we're quickly doing ourselves in.
Permafrost 2 years ago
Thank god people like Devo show us our wicked ways!!
SheledUmlal 2 years ago
lol what a joke that lab is the guy is eating a sandwich while working on the monkey !! ha i find that pretty fucking gross!
ta2joe13 2 years ago
lose 80% of med research? what planet are you on?
Medicine can only GAIN from not using animal experiments - for example, cancer in mice has been cured - but researches continue to test cancer on mice in the pathetic hope that they will someday cure human cancer WITH A MOUSE.
Does this not make sense?
Do your homework before you moan about this.
larac00l 2 years ago
I'm all for animals being treated w respect but peta edited this out of 60 hours down to 25min and the acid they refer to is acualy water. peta also kills 2/3 of the animals they save and without animals research we would lose around 80% of med research. people with disease's would die.
danzig2000danzig 2 years ago 2
yes i no, you commented a week ago, but i want to make a point:
PETA may have edited it, but they didn't make it up. the monkies, even if it were 2 out of 100, were still treated like this. PETA must've had to kill some because they were too mentally unstable to life to its fullest.
and yes people with disease's would die, but wouldn't that make us selfish, killing other living beings just for our own survival? its sick.
theres other ways to find cures for diseases. not just animal testing
BlenderPower 2 years ago
fuck peta they are a bunch of bullshit artists
ta2joe13 2 years ago
And you're a selfish person. So bad crimes like these are to perpetuate people like you. It's so unfair and so typical of our days. This will end someday.
Stenopelmatus 2 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about???
ta2joe13 2 years ago
I've only seen one minute and seventeen seconds of this and can't watch more.
These tests should be performed on child rapists, and pieces of shit that are rotting in prison for good reason.
maiden666guitar 2 years ago 12
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alliecat420 2 years ago
@maiden666guitar Yes. Because our justice system makes sure that only the guilty are convicted of crimes.
IrreverentFool 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar that is a very good idea. however you would see just as much suffering in a thai kitchen. ever seen them skin a cat alive then drop it in a pan of very hot but not boiling water, the damn thing swims around for a good while and it happens all the time. it will have happened in the time it has taken me to write this.
gluepot66 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar pussy
Duvmasta 1 year ago
@Duvmasta No thanks, you're mom has a habit of not washing it...
maiden666guitar 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar my mom had her tubes tied because she didn't want to have anymore kids
Duvmasta 1 year ago
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@Duvmasta Can you blame her?...
maiden666guitar 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar Don't even say that. Extreme justice is extreme injustice.
Litmus2336 1 year ago
@Litmus2336 you must have family in prison, that are scum maybe, and don't want them to be subjected to this type of cruelty. What did these animals do to deserve such punishment?
maiden666guitar 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar The animals didn't deserve any of this, but if an animal doesn't deserve it what makes it right to perform it on anyting else, even a human. If you advocate torture of criminals, you are the true scum.
Litmus2336 1 year ago
@maiden666guitar: I agree that it is disgusting, but then you fall into the very same mindset as the experimenters with your second comment!
There is NO JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER for this sort of inhumane, degrading punishment on ANYONE. Not even rapists, murderers, or whatever evil people you can envision.
That is the ultimate message to be taken from this video - it isn't "If you're going to be a monster, find deserving targets", it is "Don't be a monster. Period!"
BeverlyHills2ndGen 1 year ago
Never learn not to love animals!
this is sick!!!
drmihailo 2 years ago
aww poor monkeys =(
XXKidBeybladerXX 2 years ago
dude wtf
haras96 2 years ago
wow! This added to the most recent HSUS investigation just goes to show - the needless cruelty to animals in labs is still in full swing. That we are paying for these kinds of barbaric experiments with our taxes is infuriating - Empty the cages - Go Vegan.
beaelliott 2 years ago
No thanks...
troyhoward15 2 years ago
Yeah, this video was edited extremely-- in reality, the vast majority of these primates were not treated this badly (148/150), and 25 errors in vocal recordings were recorded, but this is still pretty inhumane and gruesome stuff.
FOOLYCOOLY 2 years ago
lol @ butthurt idiots
without this type of scientific research, as well as the 'atrocities' carried out by nazi and japanese imperial scientists, we would still be blood-letting and clutching charms to healpeople.
geofree1984 3 years ago
Bullshit. Think again.
ComeLeVent 3 years ago
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p13m4n 2 years ago
Even some researchers will admit that only between 5 and 25% of experiments are beneficial to humans. The truth is out there. Try reading "Sacred Cows and Golden Geese" or going to Physicians for Responsible Medicine website. These "experiments" are done to get published, obtain tenure and draw in grant money from the taxpayer. 92% of drugs tested on animals fail human clinical trials. Of those that pass 50% are recalled or relabeled. 100,000 Americans die every year from bad drugs.
fishmarc 2 years ago
5-25% are fantastic numbers for successful and useful research. You should be proud that humanity has reached a level of genious where progress can be achieved through such research, and that you have the higher intellectual faculties to project empathy onto lesser creatures.
geofree1984 2 years ago
geo: OH! So you believe in the bible now, right? That is the basis for humanities view that animals are "lesser" beings. What proof do you actually have that they are? Every distinction that scientists have placed between animals and us has been disproven time after time. Only an arrogant fool assumes that by virtue of birth he is somehow more valuable than any other creature. Here I thought you believed in evolution and that we all sprang from a common ancestor.You can't have it both ways.
fishmarc 2 years ago
lol
I am anti-religious. I base my facts that we are a higher taxon than other animals because evolutionarily, biologically, mentally, we are superiour. That I was born a human of human parentage makes me superiour to a fish, a dog, a centipede, etcetera.
geofree1984 2 years ago
Where exactly did you get the concept that you were superior? Animals are used in experiments to duplicate diseases in humans, right? Logic dictates that if you believe that we are animals and all animals come from a common ancestor then all animals have the capacity for emotions, distress and pain. This is being born out by scientific research BTW. So, by what nonbiased ethical standard can you (in scientific terms) determine that one animal has more worth to this planet than another?
fishmarc 2 years ago
Superior in what way? All we're good at is being dumb sadists... We're not intelligent in the sense that we understand things we have knowledge but we're too stupid to understand it, we've brains but we're to dumb to use them and we've creativity to use things but we're too stupid to separate it from intelligence. You just like jerking off to this shit and your own reflection cause you're sick!
CorridorOfTruth 2 years ago 3
Absolutely! There are some animals that think they are very different from nature and they call themselves humans.
They think that they are the only ones that have it.
Humans are cancer tha, if wanted it could cure it self, but we all know how it likes to work...
drmihailo 2 years ago
you are one of the sickest fuckers in the world to defend this torture
JanBelupo 2 years ago 3
This should be performed on you the lowest creatures of all are humans are you're the proof of it!
CorridorOfTruth 2 years ago 2
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I empathize with huamns undergoing similar tortures. I love anmials and enjoy their service and presence, and part of their use is for scxientific and medical purposes. These animals were bred for study, not to be oogled at a zoo, without these studies these animals would not be alive.
LIFE = PURPOSE
hurr durrrrrrr
geofree1984 2 years ago
All animals would live very well if we just left them alone, they survived perfectly all those milions of years before man came. Why would you claim this is good for the animals? Is this how they should save human kind once we die? If you got cancer should we do this to you then? You seem to have a brain damage already so what's the point?!
CorridorOfTruth 2 years ago 2
Nothing you say makes sense.
geofree1984 2 years ago
r u blind!? CorridorOfTruth is trying to make a point!!! how would u like it if we did this kind of stuff to u!? or what if this was happening to some of ur friends or family while u just stood there and watched!?
Qtput 2 years ago 2
Wait...are you implying that Darwinism is fact and not just a theory?
liTheNapsteril 3 years ago
A scientific theory isn't like an "idea." It's basically the same as a fact, but it's not the sort of thing that has a definite truth to it (such as time, date, temperature, etc). Example of theory: Germ Theory. If you get a germ, you will get sick.
FOOLYCOOLY 2 years ago
Now before I start I'd like to say that the behavior of these scientists is disgusting and inexcusable but this was 26 minutes of six hours of footage. After all the footage was later examined it was found that this was the only thing that happened and the rest was humane testing. Humane as it gets anyway. But if I ever got my hands on those dumb asses... they would be worse off then the monkey...
riter1993 3 years ago
The true tragedy is that this type of abuse continues in laboratories to this day. While footage such as this gives the public a glimpse into what actually goes on behind the locked laboratory doors it does not slow down the sadistic "researchers", they just use it as an excuse to increase security to make it difficult for similar footage and other evidence to be made public.
The researchers need to feel just a small amount of the pain the animals do.
EndVivisectionNow 3 years ago 2
This is just plain sick. I cant believe this is happening right now in this world. It breaks my heart and it looks more like a horror film
pmanning666 3 years ago
This necessary but horrible as well... theer is no happy medium i guess...
karkoski22 3 years ago
my god its bad. it is sick whats happened to this animal
kieran55555 3 years ago
PETA Sucks balls!!!!!!lol Thats was fucked up though what they did too those monkeys
slayerfan666666 3 years ago
It was peta who saved these poor monkeys, or ALF, Peta just did the documentary!
dadsclone3 3 years ago
What are they doing? This is wrong. I understand that people want to find treatments and so on, but this is just awful...I dont understand why they have to make the animal suffer like that. They should be free. This should be forbidden!
SSickRR 3 years ago
Sadly a great deal of our scientific knowledge in the field of medicine is based on gruesome experiments such as these. Its just a matter of where to draw the line, of whether you do this to animals, to human beings (as joseph mengele so gleefully did,) or not do it at all. I know where i draw the line...
eyhexs 3 years ago
y don't u fuckin bitches go out and do some thing about it all u do is bitch o poor animal i didint hear that much shit about the fuckin The Holocaust u fuckin people make me fuckin sick all peta does is take money and say they are doin something but that is not true u people should learn before the animals it was human beans learn your history
killjoy4000 3 years ago
Hey killjoy, why don't you learn how to articulate...
oh yeah, you don't need those skills while you're burning in hell (sorry)...
mikechecka1212 3 years ago
look u peta baster i want u to know when the anti christ comes and u get the chip inplanted in your head and u will burn in the abyss me the christan will be in heaven laughing while u dumbasses burn go to church bitch
killjoy4000 3 years ago
I came back here because I wanted to apologize for being so harsh in my words. Truth is, it's not me to wish bad on any living being. Essentially, that's why I'm here in the first place. Even though these events took place decades ago, I can't let go of the anguish I feel knowing that these lives were subjected to TORTURE at our (human) hands. IF, just IF you can find anything about this that you will "be in heaven laughing" about, God save your soul, one Christian to another...
mikechecka1212 3 years ago 2
Wait a second here... "before the animals it was human"
Are you implying that humans are plants, and that we came "before" animals?
First off, you need to read up on your darwin. We are animals. And we evolved from earlier primates into what we are today.
also, all of the primates you see in this video share over 90% of our genetic makeup.
Also, don't assume that just because we are watching a youtube video that we don't take action.
TelekineticFreak 3 years ago 2
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Wait...are you implying that Darwinism is fact and not just a theory?
liTheNapsteril 3 years ago
lol your so dumb...
Want me to explain? This shouldn't take long. You speak of Darwinism like it is fact...and that 10% hmmm...would that be because humans have a soul?
liTheNapsteril 3 years ago
/agree
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alliecat420 2 years ago
Note that investigation of this film showed that PETA "greatly overstated" some claims. The "acid" that spilled on the monkey in the video was actually water.
djediknight 3 years ago
No. It was simply found that there was insufficient proof that the "acid" was not water, although the filmed researcher does say that it is acid in the video.
skatejason 3 years ago
This is heartless and very unnecessary, not to mention the behavior towards the innocent little creatures.
eddiesmaiden87 3 years ago
um... u dont do surgery on something thats awake...
Demongaara123 3 years ago
thanks for posting this.
theletter23 3 years ago
It's reasons like this why I support the ALF
haloequalslife 4 years ago 2
omg,how cruel!!
naminerosenjunk 4 years ago