Beverly Eckert 9/11 widows dies in Buffalo plane crash flight 3407

[punxsutawneybarney]

The Widows called Dr. Rice "KindaLiesALot Rice". See my video "Condi Lied Under Oath to the 9/11 Widows"

[NoWayJose2468]

TINYFISH aka. ahuihouamerica, aka. scottTHEman, aka who else knows?

Hey just want to make sure you see the 2 Black Lexus's that I lied about that are sitting in my garage ! Here's a nother shot for you ! Look at the icon --a constant reminder for you THAT YOU WERE SOOOOOO WRONG, WEREN'T YOU ! Have a great day, I know I AM having a really great day today ! hehehehe as you say I hope your head isn't exploding....try Motrin.... :-)

[simonvonashferd]

It's strange that people will always jump to conclusions and blame the government for everything. the official report by air crash investigation teams hasn't even been released. there is no evidence for government involvement, and no one here who claims there was has a shred of evidence to prove it, simply because there is none.

This is getting worse and worse, the way some peoples mind works really does amaze me. and not in a good way.

[happycamperlady]

for SImon and Wisco :-)

[southernwoman001]

LOL..... considering you posted and deleted about 14 CONSECUTIVE posts

in a row, I think anyone with any amount of common sense will see WHO is the psycho stalker here ! You didn't see ME posting 14 consecutive posts and then delete them all ! LOL you are such a joke

the best part is---I DON'T CARE AT ALL WHAT YOU POST ABOUT ME

I'M JUST GIVING YOU A TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT WHAT THESE IDIOTS ON UTUBE THINK ABOUT YOU ---

[NoWayJose2468]

AHUIHOUAMERICA stated a few posts below that he never tried to block anyone from posting on his site. Check #2 & 3 of his outline :-) This is what he posted to me on his site:

A Hui Hou America and Fidsmistress

and I quote:

From her on, unless you have anything of substance to present, I'm going to have you on "IGNORE", where you should have been right from the start

[NoWayJose2468]

oh God you are mentally ill

can't deal with you today !

you need help..... get it

[NoWayJose2468]

LOL removing all your posts?? LOL

wow THAT doesn't make you look like a maniac LOL

[southernwoman001]

ANNOUNCEMENT TO THE SITE:

REGARDING:  AHUIHOUAMERICA He has a big announcement that he is going to BLOCK ME FROM HIS SITE AND how I have been stalking him, etc...

NEWSFLASH; I DON'T CARE !!! LOL

I GAVE HIM LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS THAT HE COULD NOT ANSWER....HIS RESPONSE WAS???

TO BLOCK ME.... Just thought I'd let you all know because he was threatening me telling me he was going to TELL EVERYONE ! so now I did ! & WHO CARES? I know YOU ALL don't !!! LOL

[southernwoman001]

let's examine your stupid statement

" it magically falls out of the sky"

ICE ICE ICE NOT MAGIC

called WINTER and ICE

causes planes to crash if not handled correctly and removed

past flights have crashed because of ice

did the government make those crash too?

C O M M O N S E N S E get some !

[falconApoda]

"...folks who are not afraid of reality..."

You wouldn't know "reality" if it bit you in the ass, AHou.

Here's the deal: Eckert was the genuine article. She pushed hard, but she never subscribed to 9/11 kook theories (i.e., she always believed that the attacks were conducted by radical Islamic extremists). Now her memory is the being assaulted by "truth" nutters and Jew haters who want to use it (and her) for their own twisted ends.

And that's the real tragedy being perpetrated today.

[southernwoman001]

Falcon, you put that quite well.

this is why I despise ahuihouamerica, aka TINYFISH so much.

For attention, he is perpetuating this nonsense just to give himself a 'purpose' in life. A RACIST is the most ignorant type of person on the planet. He preaches hatred against a whole race of people. IF I JUDGED ALL HAWAIIN'S BY HIS BEHAVIOR, THEN I WOULD CONCLUDE THAT ALL HAWAIINS ARE A BUNCH OF RACIST ASSHOLES.

But since I am not a racist, I know he is just a BLACK SPOT on his people

[nowayjose22468]

A similar turboprop jet crash 15 years ago in Indiana was caused by ice, and after that the NTSB recommended more aggressively using pneumatic de-icing boots. But the FAA has not adopted the recommendation. It remains on the NTSB's list of most-wanted safety improvements.

DID THE GOVERNMENT TAKE DOWN THIS PLANE TOO?

[nowayjose22468]

If a tail has too much ice, deploying the wing flaps can trigger rolling and pitching. To recover, Silcott said, the pilot must pull up the nose and slow the plane — exactly the opposite of what pilots are trained to do for a wing stall, and the opposite of what Flight 3407's computerized systems did automatically just before the plane crashed.

NOW AHUHOU--YOU TELL ME HOW THE GOVERNMENT KILLED THIS WOMAN? TELL ME HOW THEY PUT ICE ON THE WINGS YOU ASSHOLE

[falconApoda]

"28,000 flights take off out of U.S. cities every day..."

Some of which containing 9/11 "truth" kooks, no doubt.

"I'm pretty sure ice was around long before last week..."

There was. And planes have crashed because of ice before.

"This was murder, plain and simple,"

You're an idiot, plain and simple.

[ijamsville97]

Was to arrive Buffalo, then fly to Chicago w/ new 911 evidence, of PRE 911 knowledge, involve. of black ops. unit of US Pentagon, w/ Israeli Mossad, East German Stasi DVD. Was to meet Special Couns. Patrick Fitzgerald w/ evidence her phone was wiretapped for 5 years NSA spy op. 'Stellar Wind'. Was also in posses. of DNA samps & recent photos showing the alleged 911 hijackers still alive. She'd been in direct commu. w/ then-cand. Obama & Caroline Kennedy for 2 years re evidence. Google it-

[Matachilangos]

They wanted to kill Betty Eckert, as she had initiated a lawsuit against the government because her husband died in the World Trade Center bombings and demolition. She just met with illegal alien presidential pretender Obama in early February about her case. Her well publicized death-within moments of the crash- was intended to send a message to other 911 families to back off.

[NYCRailRevolution]

It was Pakistani intelligence and the neocons together that plotted 9/11. The neocons are just high-priced oil company shills. The golden pipeline that runs through Afghanistan ends in Pakistan. They felt that 3000 dead at the WTC was an acceptable loss. If we fight back then they will move their operations to Dubai and sell the oil our troops died for to our enemies. We are dealing with the lowest form of scum on Earth. War Profiteers. And they just fleeced our treasury too.

[NYCRailRevolution]

I suspect it goes deeper. CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderburg Group. Illuminati, P2, The JAYSON Group, the power elite, what they call each other when they snuggle up at night for strange rituals doesnt concern me. Media barons, industrialists and politicians should not be allowed to meet in secret. The potential for corruption is immense. They have become a mafia above the law. We opposed them so they responded with problem/reaction/solution. It has always been a lie. Wake up.

[Praestantia111]

These people are psychopaths and are really quite weak. Although they do have a lot of power, it is all based on fear. Now fear is quite weakening; it's been proven that it weakens a person physically, spiritually and mentally. I don't think they snuggle up at all, They hate each other and use blackmail to keep one another in line. Much like the school bully who says.'Be my friend or I'll punch you in the face'. What do you do with a bully.TELL, tell, tell! Only light can eliminate darkness.

[xXDyingDarknessXx]

At least she has finally reunited with her husband in death. This is a very tragic story i would only hope their families are doing well.

[DancingWithEagles]

There is an obvious connection between Eckert and 911 advocacy prior to the plane crash. Also the fact that the radio happened to go out at the exact same time as a mechanical malfunction is proof that the plane was attacked by an EMP weapon. Why was the black box recording not aired???

[fwtrackman]

Looks like the government has finally shut her up! For years she refused to accept "pay off" demanded truth and now before her trial against the government for hiding the truth about 9/11 she "tragically" dies in a plane crash! Quite a coincidence!

[ucajtm]

you beter shut the hell up thats my aunt think before you say shit again

[Praestantia111]

Here's the newest from the globe&mail:

'A "stick shaker" and "stick pusher" mechanism had activated to warn Mr. Renslow that the plane was about to lose aerodynamic lift, a condition called a stall. When the "stick pusher" engaged, it would have pointed the nose of the plane toward the ground to try to increase lift.

This is exactly the gear failure that happened with the BA flight later that day. The English Prime minister's plane flying underneath for some odd reason interfered with the signal

[BushBlewUpTwinTowers]

"Looks like the government has finally shut her up! For years she refused to accept "pay off" demanded truth and now before her trial against the government for hiding the truth about 9/11 she "tragically" dies in a plane crash! Quite a coincidence! "

yup

[keliata]

Are you paranoid or just stupid??? If anything it was pilot error (putting the plane on autopilot, flying in bad weather), ice, and pilot inexperience with the Dash-8 that caused the crash.

[NYCRailRevolution]

Canadians are a clean people.

[outled]

She was assassinated in my opinion, i dont need anyone to tell me i could be wrong, i am aware of that.

[Yoetah]

Coincidence?

I don't believe in them...

[street86]

This is bullshit we as people must fullfill what she wanted which is justice! 911 was an inside job

[vikingscool]

I am happy about she finally get together with her husband in the Heaven! May God bless Eckert and her husband. Amen!

[justfarr1030]

Google: Beverly Eckert

She was one of the people that spearheaded the push to reopen the investigation into what REALLY happened during 9/11. She openly challenged the 9/11 Commission Report and all the lies and mistruths that plagued it. She said that the government lied to us and belived that 9/11 WAS an inside job.

Doesn't this seem extremely "convient" that her plane goes down just a week after meeting with President Obama? Why did the FBI show up at the site of the crash?

[Praestantia111]

Yes, there was also a World Watch activist on board as well as some professional female hockey players. Of whom belong to the female persuasion and therefore cannot attend the Bohemian Grove and such. However, we do still make up 51% of the population.

[falconApoda]

"She said that the government lied to us and belived that 9/11 WAS an inside job."

Bullshit.

From an interview:

Q. You are involved in a lawsuit against Saudi Arabian elite defendants.

Beverly Eckert: And the terrorists themselves. I certainly have not lost sight of who plotted to do this and why.

,,,]

Eckert never believed 9/11 was an "inside job".

Fucktard.

[justfarr1030]

LOL.

I never said that she didn't believe terroists were involved, I said that she believed that government lied to us (whiche they did) and that they were somehow involved in the coverup.

[falconApoda]

"...she believed that government lied to us (whiche they did) and that they were somehow involved in the coverup..."

That's not the same thing as saying it was an "inside job" (i.e., that elements of the government actively participated in the attack). To whatever extent Eckert castigated the USG for its intelligence failures (and there were massive failures), she never believed that anyone other than Islamic extremists perpetrated the 9/11 attack.

In short, she was never a 9/11 truthdork.

[justfarr1030]

Say what you want, it's in her own words that I quoted for ANYONE TO READ OVER MY PREVIOUS STATEMENTS. You can try to twist it around how you want.

[justfarr1030]

"I want to know why two 110-story skyscrapers collapsed in less than two hours"

"I am suing because unlike other investigative avenues, including congressional hearings and the 9/11 commission, MY LAWSUIT REQUIRES ALL TESTIMONY BE GIVEN UNDER OATH and FULLY USES POWERS TO COMPEL EVIDENCE"

^CLEAR indication that she felt that the government wasn't telling us the whole truth.

Are you that blind?

[justfarr1030]

"The victims fund was not created in a spirit of compassion. Rather, it was a tacit acknowledgement by Congress that it tampered with our civil justice system in an unprecedented way."

"The caps on liability have consequences for those who want to sue to shed light on the mistakes of 9/11. It means the playing field is tilted steeply in favor of those who need to be held accountable."

Want more?

[Praestantia111]

Nothing in life is free and everything has a price. They made her an offer she couldn't refuse. When she tried to, they killed her.

[quietman1k]

In other words the Global Elite are criminal, It's organized crime at the highest level. The World is controlled and operated by psychotic criminals who are hell bent on establishing a World Bank the equivalent of the United States Federal Reserve system on steroids. Eventually their luciferian endgame is the microchipped population and the eradication of 90% of the human race.

[ariannahiggins]

@quietman1k Hey, if the the nonexistent imaginary and invisible Global Elite wanted to kill *you*off and your subhumanly moronic ilk, then hey good for them. The world would be a much better place without mindnumbing stupidity and insanity

[snakeskin2u2]

@ariannahiggins

Absolutely agree with the last sentence !

When are you going to commit hare-kare ?

I shall look forward to it, and name it a day of celebration.

[justfarr1030]

"So I say to Congress, big business and everyone who CONSPIRED to divert attention from government and private-sector failures: My husband's life was priceless, and I will not let his death be meaningless. My silence cannot be bought."

All Beverly Eckert quotes which CLEARLY PROVE BEYOND A SHAWDOW OF A DOUBT that she had her suspicions that the government was not being truthful and that SOME people in the government had a hand in the attacks. 9/11 was an inside job. Thankyou and wakeup.

[falconApoda]

"...she had her suspicions... that SOME people in the government had a hand..."

BS. That's just you, projecting your own 9/11 truthkook fantasies. Eckert always maintained that the attacks were planned/perpetrated by Islamic extremists. Yes, she had a lot of questions for the USG, but, unlike 9/11 "truthers", she demonstrated a willingness to listen to answers. I actually agree with much of her criticism.

STOP TRYING TO DISHONOR HER MEMORY. She was not part of your stupid "truth" movement.

[justfarr1030]

LOL. I don't demonstrate a willingness to listen to answers? I have listened to many versions of what happened on 9/11. You however, ONLY have listened to the "Official" story and never tried to think outside the box for once. Your a blind follower of mainstream media.

Everyone, Google: Beverly Eckert

Read what she said, don't take our word for it.

PS: Falcon Apoda, we can end this debate now. It's not going anywhere, neither one of us will budge (I'm sure you can see that).

[falconApoda]

"...think outside the box for once..."

Oh, and which "box" is that? The one dictated by facts and evidence?

No thanks.

[Praestantia111]

Many non-truthers think it's ridiculous for truthers to suggest that people entered the towers days or weeks beforehand and planted explosions in order to weaken the steel. When Beverly said 'steel does not melt' it is widely accepted that she was saying that explosions were planted. So are you saying that it is a possibility that she was implying that islamic terrorists went in and installed explosives or no?

[falconApoda]

"When Beverly said 'steel does not melt' it is widely accepted that she was saying that explosions were planted..."

No. It is misinterpreted that way by a handful of batshit loonball crazies.

The vast majority of those who reside in the reality-based community know that she was referring to something else.

[Praestantia111]

So without swearing and insulting can you please tell me what she meant by 'steel does not melt'? What was that something else to which she was referring?

[falconApoda]

"...can you please tell me what she meant by 'steel does not melt'?"

First off, let's clarify that even in the "official" version, no one ever said that the steel melted or that it would be necessary to "melt" the steel in order for the buildings to collapse.

So Eckert was correct in the sense that the fires never got that hot. Basically, she's criticizing the way the buildings were constructed (e.g., that they had used 60-foot spans, etc.). Nothing whatever to do with the notion of CD.

[Praestantia111]

What? What the in the world did you just write? lol.

[ucajtm]

lay off my aunt

[justfarr1030]

Noone is disrespecting your aunt my friend. What I'm talking about is the truth of what happened surrounding this situation that cannot AND WILL NOT be surpressed by mainstream media. I apologize if I offended you in anyway as that was not my intention. But these are the facts of what happened.

[NYCRailRevolution]

These elitists like to use numbers. 7/7. 9/11. 7/21. Friday the 13th. The day they announced on NPR that Gore won the election in FL (story at 9am) by 9am that was not the story. A plane had crashed in Rockaway Queens. That was the story. Senator Paul Wellstone dies in a plane crash. Anthrax letters are mailed to the two senators opposing the Patriot Act. It doesnt take a genius to read their Fri 13th message. 9/11 was not the neo-cons, it was the Illuminati. Bilderburgs, CFR and Triliteral

[shqiperiany]

and they will use the day u will die, "someday"

are u fucking retarded? they just happen stupid ass-face they don't do that to make history.

the airplane crashed because there was ice-buildup in the pilot window and wings.

because of the wind, everything become very cold

[Praestantia111]

There was no ice build up, check the air control audio none of the other planes in the area suffered from ice build up. Apparently, there was fire aboard before it went down. Possibly a bomb.

[thequietkid10]

shows you how stupid you are, the plane crashed on Thursday around 11pm. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your delusions

[Praestantia111]

Actually the UK news reported on Friday the 13th. Time zones in the Eastern Hemisphere are ahead of North America, therefore, to most the world, it happened on Friday the 13th.

[thequietkid10]

LOL, I can't believe your serious.

Newsflash, nobody outside of America would give more then a passing thought to this plane crash, and fewer of them would know anything about Beverley Eckert, or even that she was a 9/11 widow.

Further more do you have any idea how stupid your argument is? How in God's name is the NWO supposed to be able to know well in advance that she was getting on a plane on Friday the 13 so they can kill her then

More importantly, WHY are they obsessed with numbers?

[Praestantia111]

There are many people outside the US that give a passing thought as to what happens to a woman who fights for justice. I have been in contact with at least 10.Not everyone is as self-interested as Americans are. For example, I'm Canadian and do take interest in other countries besides my own....it's called educating myself. You should try it some time. Look up Skull and Bones along with Bush and Kerry. And while you're at it look up Rockefeller and Illuminati; you'll see about Friday the 13th.

[falconApoda]

"I'm Canadian..."

Oh, God...

[Praestantia111]

Yes I am. Do you have a problem with that big guy?

[falconApoda]

"Yes I am [Canadian]. Do you have a problem...?

No problem at all. But it does explain a great deal about you, I think.

[Praestantia111]

K, tell me what you think of Canadians? What does it explain about me? I want to hear this. Are we not polite, accomodating, sincere people who let you come up here and have a heyday with your dollar? lol!

[falconApoda]

"K, tell me what you think of Canadians?"

My overall impression is that they're snobs... they tend to look down on Americans and act as if they're privy to some sort of inside joke that everyone else is incapable of understanding.

I think the fact that you are (apparently) a 9/11 "truther" fits in well with this notion. For underlying the truther mentality is the belief that they are special people who have great powers of discernment... far beyond that of garden-variety "sheeple".

[falconApoda]

"..."sheeple"."

Truthers are possessed of an idiotically-conceited sense of self-importance. They feel that they alone can see through the lies being perpetrated upon society, and that they are the only ones who can bring out the real truth. They like movies like The Matrix and fancy themselves as being among the very few who took the red pill. They think they're smarter than everyone else. They think they have the ability to recognize patterns amid chaos.

Canadians remind me of truthers.

[falconApoda]

"Canadians remind me of truthers."

Or, truthers remind me of Canadians.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there it is.

[NYCRailRevolution]

Well I do own a sled dog and watch hockey. A

[falconApoda]

"Well I do own a sled dog..."

As I say, maybe I'm wrong. To tell the truth, I don't actually know any Canadians personally, so...

It's just an impression I've formed.

[Praestantia111]

Well, you know one now and I live in an igloo, and similar NYCRR, I watch a lot of hockey, own a sled dog, say 'eh' a lot, and love the show South Park. lol. Now how can we come off as snobs if this is the case?

[justfarr1030]

Sheeple: They are brainwashed by an overwhelming false sense of comfort. They feel that everything is going to be alright in the world because their President said so. They believe in everything that mainstream media says without questioning simple logic. If ABC, NBC (etc) said it was raining flies they wouldn't even think twice of believing it. They watch movies like Pearl Harbor and pride themselves on being a "true American". They think they have the ability protect their Gov. from the truth

[Praestantia111]

Furthermore, the NWO knows everything. Take the time it took for the media to find out who was on the flight, then divide that by 10 and you have your answer. The NWO can find out what kind of freaken toilet paper you bought yesterday. Wake up.

[justfarr1030]

You've GOT to be kidding right?

The NWO is ALL OVER THE PLACE. Big business corporations, mainstream media, government (all levels). You don't think they can find out something as simple as if she purchased a plane ticket???

By the way, she had just as recently as last week met with Obama regarding 9/11 and reopening the investigation as well as having everyone testifying under oath (something that Bush and his cronies neglected to do).

Oh yea nevermind, it's just a coincidence.

[ucajtm]

just a coincidence that my aunt died you better take that back you call yourself justfarr well you just took you name just to farr budy

[justfarr1030]

I tried to figure it out, but I have NO idea what you're talking about.

[ucajtm]

if you put you name justfarr and leave the r off it spell just far i put to becouse you took you comment to far about my aunt that died. think b for you speak about somthing you dont know shit about

[BushBlewUpTwinTowers]

bush blew up twin towers, obama blew up beverly

[Praestantia111]

Bombardier, the company that made the aircraft has Bilderburg ties. It is a Canadian company that manufactures subway cars also, including those of the Toronto subway which recieves billions in federal funding but still sucks and is rotting apart. Another possibly related story is February 11 the TSE had a sudden power failure and was out of commission from 1:30pm to 4:00pm. IT just reminds me of the inside trading theories concerning AA airlines and others on the business day before Sept 11.

[makkivi]

You comment show why we are fighting bloody murderers like you and your countrymen. My Allah burn you in hell.

[hiodr]

an accident?