This is good old Apostolic Music. In old Apostolic Music you could here the piano and organ. Now the Apostolic churches got rid of the piano and told the person playing the organ to quite down. The new songs mostly are to put on a show and for entertainment. The choirs today just gyrate there hips when not in the Spirit and have rock and roll time. Elvis played more godly gospel songs than our worldly (gospel music today).
It's really nice to see the POA rejoice, but I personally get a blessing from seeing Pastor Mangun and Mickey Mangun not care what anybody thinks about them and let go and praise God.
@thewomanofsteel haha dude it's POA anything can happen lol...but black drummers are better I have to admit...We only have one black drummer in our entire district but he's dabomb.ca!
@thewomanofsteel I say this in love, If you Look at Black, and White How can you truly call yourself a Christian? The True Anointing does care what color you are. Don't get caught up in a lie of the devil!
Steve Winter (AKA Winterband), who loves to post his goofball video responses on everybody's videos, is nothing more than a lazy, false-christian scum who is worse than an infidel, because he has never worked a real job, but stayed home and let his wife (who has polio) work.
1 Timothy 5:8: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
2 Thes 3:10: ..if any would not work , neither should he eat.
Nothing like a Holy Ghost party!!!!!!!!!! The world can have their clubs...this is my kinda party. Hallelujah!!!!! I wanted to shout at my desk just watching yall praise him.
Because most Pentecostals are afraid of what the visitors would say and not what the spirit of the Lord tell them... I remember when most every service was like this... If we could get like this again we could have a Holy Ghost revival like we have never seen before.
Nobody should be afraid of what the world calls them or says about them. And revival is taking place right now. All throughout Ohio (many have prophesied Ohio being the starting point of the End Time revival). And that revival is not only in the UPCI, but other churches around us. A pastor of another denomination in the area I live in was preaching against speaking in tongues to his church, and God filled him and he began speaking in tongues in front of his church. Revival is already here.
i need all the christain freinds and subs please thank you i feel we can reach people if we be a freind to them with all meekness and kindness i am trying to do something good on youtube there are so many atheists please help me fight thank you
This is the old school! If more of us would return we would begin to see the Holy Ghost work in a mighty way. Miracles would not be a rarity they would be commonplace! We Pentecostals have become proud and haughty...God forgive us!
I miss this church soooo. I grew up in this church then moved away. This reminds me of camp meeting in Tioga, La. Everybody shouting in the spirit!!! Whew!
this is the way the pentecostal church is to have these kinds of services and you can feel the holy ghost in this video and to let you all know this is the same way we have our services in christ gospel church too
NAW YOU RIGHT MAN!!! HAHAA I'm Black and I LOVE to see my WHITE/Asian/ Hispaics praise him just like the Black folk, THAt's why i LOVE this video.....PRAISE HIM!!!! LOL
or see black brothers praise like hispanic/white/asian folk lol and hispanic praise like white/black/asian folk . . Let praise be universal, all honor and glory be to God
Actually If you read your history There was No UPCI When Bishop G.T.Haywood was First starting out...The saints both black and white where Formed and they called the Organization the PAW but many of the saints didn't agree with the name Because of the Word WORLD in the PAW..ANd because of issuse with segregation, convetions and Voting many of the Whites Left the PAW and FORMED THE UPCI..How do i Know i'm reading up on it. The 20th Century Pentecostals and there STORy GREAT BOOK...
Why is it people try to explain other's actions? All of you need to work out your own salvation and quit pretending to convert each other. Most of you are still "shopping the sidewalk sale" and haven't even seen what the store can offer.
For those of you who don't like it, I am sorry but the new testament church was quite lively before the paganism of catholicism came into play....That's what birthed the teaching that we should always sit quietly in church and do nothing. I for one will not sit still and worship an idol.
If I remember right, didn't God tell Ezekiel in a vision to preach unto the dead bones, that there would become life within them? A dead church is like a dead body, it lays there. No movement, no sounds, no true worship. A living church is a moving, breathing, lively church. It moves, sings, shouts, dances, heals, grows, worships in Spirit and in truth. God does not want rituals, but He wants a broken soul, repentance, and us to be baptized in His name, and to have His Spirit in us.
dang... look at them people church WHOO !!! man they must feel grate there isnt no better feeling then what there doing right there just feeling the power of the holy ghost and the music is AWSOME i wonder what kind of style you would call that piano
I love this!! This is the way that the bible says to praise God!! Psalm 150:3-6 3. Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. 4. Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. 5. Praise him upon the loud cymbals; praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. 6. Let everything that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.
the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World!...like the UPC is predominantly white the PAW is predominantly black..they both started around the same time due to segregation in the 1800-1900 hundreds!!
ya i agree some upc churches are dead... they believe in the Word but no out reach or worship like they should be worshiping. My pastor hates churches that are segregated with white, blacks, hispanics, etc... Our church has white, black, hispanics, asians.. everyone that has a soul..
umm ApostolicKen I believe you are wrong in so many ways The UPCI is not segregated I know plenty of churches that have black people and white.Look up the youtube video of Atlanta West Pentecostal Church they have black people too. Umm if you recall Jesus is not white
I hate how some apostolics try to convert pentecostals to well pentecostals! Gosh the UPC might have some dead churches , but I imagine PAW is just as bad!! I am UPC and plan sticking with the UPC because you know what my church is having a GOOD OLE HOLY GHOST REVIVAL!!! So what's that bout being dead!
Let me make my words a bit clearer. I don't believe God makes people flail around. I believe in dancing before the Lord, speaking in tongues through the unction of the Holy Ghost, and the Gifts of the Spirit. I believe POA is a blessed church that teaches the truth. I believe in being drunk in the Holy Ghost. I believe Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, and the Trinity is false. Now, to answer your question, The Pharisees called what Jesus did was evil, and knew only God could do what He did.
What do you think the Israelites did when they crossed the Red Sea? What did David do when the Ark was recovered? What did the Israelites do when they were told instead of fighting their enemies, they were to worship and praise God in their battle? Now I'm not saying someone who flails across the room looking like they're having a fit is always of God. But I have seen a man who's back was in a horrible position begin to flail and jump around as God gave his back strength and healed it completely
So if anyone don't like it, to bad. What POA teaches is the Real Truth, and I don't find anything wrong in this video. I'm not going to fall into temptation of arguing over this matter. But before you judge something you see, like the pharisees judged Jesus for healing and casting out demons, repent and get your spirits in check.
Dclake, I apologize for this matter, keep posting bro'. I'm enjoying it!
I can't find anything even remotely pleasant to the ears about this music ! This is hideous !!! How can you possibly attribute this to be praise or worship that is pleasing unto the Lord ?!!! There is no way the heavenly choir of angels' singing and musical playing, up in heaven, sounds anything like this trash ! You should be ashamed to carry on in this manner ! Pray that the Lord's mercy and longsuffering doesn't run out on you, before you hopefully repent and turn from such wicked ways !
Repent ! The kingdom of heaven is at hand ( what is going on in this "free-for-all" gathering, sure IS NOT the church being a representative of what heaven is like, here on earth ) ! This is vile and sickening ! There is nothing about this, which is holy or pleasing to God ! Keep following after the world, catering to your lusts of the eyes and the flesh, and "thumbing your nose up" to the Word of God ... your pending eternity will be spent in hell !
Guys, hold your peace like true Christians, hypocrites! You think the Holy Spirit tells you to judge and verbally attack others? Do you know how many people are in this video that are being healed?! Those who are being delivered from devils and addictions? Sins being forgiven?? Relationships being healed? You guys sound just like the pharisees! Everything Jesus did was wrong in their eyes because their hearts were hardened, and I can tell yours are too! I am praying over you in Jesus' name.
How do you know if I'm a hypocrit or not. You don't know anything about the way we live and serve God. NOTHING! I am judging this video based on what I can see and hear! When did I say everything was wrong? Nothing Jesus does is wrong. This is not Jesus! This is a Disco Tech! Jesus delivered me from this and you are calling me a pharisee? I will not hold my peace, but will cry loud spare not and show you your sins. Not even all Oneness preachers agree with this insanity.
Hey, I am a Oneness Pentecostal and I don't believe God makes people flip out. I must not of explained my side well. Forgive me for that. I don't believe Jesus makes people flail around and act like they're having seizures. My church is against those things, although I have seen it from time to time only when someone was physically healed though. I'm not saying all of this is of God, but some people are being healed down there.
There are always going to be fake worshipers amongst the real ones. Don't worry about them, but worry about your own worship. Stop yelling at everyone else, and be supportive. If they're going to dance in the flesh, or play music in the flesh, then let them. It's God's place to judge, not ours. This is an older video I assume because I don't see this in my church, or other UPCI churches I've been to. But we are still supposed to praise God with each instrument and dancing (Psalms 150). God bless
Then throw you Bible away and spit on it. If we can't judge "righteous judgement" we are salt that has lost it's savor! This is the most weak kneed effiminate church age that I've ever seen. Where are the MEN! Take a STAND! WE are LOSING IT! Get a gutteral voice and use it! My My my!!
Benny Hinn is a fake. I believe in miracles and healings because I have seen them with my own eyes. They were never brought in front of everyone. I was at a service where a man in a wheelchair next to me, having faith that God would heal him right where he was, got out of his wheelchair by himself. My best friend had the youth in my church lay hands on him when he was told that he was going to die from cancer in a few months. He went back to the doctor later, no cancer was found in him.
God don't always heal, and I do judge righteously. But I know some people there that got healed. That's not my church, but at my church, I judge righteously. I judge righteously in my own life. I do stand against the enemy. The Lord is my banner, and I won't allow myself to do what many of those did in this video. Anywhere there can be fakes, look at Satan who was supposed to be perfect, yet God saw iniquity in him that He did not put there. Don't judge others, judge your own works.
And like I said, we don't do this in my church, we don't believe in fast flailing music always being of God. But righteous judgment doesn't mean to condemn other's with our judgment. It means to choose right and wrong, good or bad, holy or defiled. I don't choose to dance in the flesh or worship in the flesh, neither does my upci church or other upci churches I've been to. But I have seen people be healed, and leap for joy, stumble around as God gives them strength in their back.
I'm Glad that God can set us free from this kind of insanity and sensationalism! There is a REAL Holy Ghost and this AIN'T it! This is just nightclub religion and buck dancing! It's SICK!
PA and UPCI used to be one church until they were forced to split do to segregation laws. But today we don't' have that, and I'm glad about that! God's church is a colorful church, and at Azusa Street Revival, there was a colorful congregation having revival prophesied in the Bible.
Act 2:16-17 "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh...."
You don't even know what or who the Holy Ghost is. The Holy Ghost is the SPIRIT OF TRUTH who comes to CONVICT and convince the world of SIN, RIGHTEOUSNESS, and JUDGEMENT! He didn't come to throw us a party you fool!
And when I say don't pay attention I don't mean shun them, but don't let it effect what you know is true in your worship to God. There will always be those that claim falsehood. They forget David, Mariam, etc. They danced with all they had which is all you have? A phony lil raise of hands and couple of jumps or all out giving all you have to God in the Holy Ghost?
Amen! David's wife Michal looked down upon him as he removed his kingly robes, down to his ephod (not naked), and began to leap and dance before God with all his might. He didn't dance a choreographed dance, but he hopped and bopped around.
Miriam went with the other women and danced with tambourines.
Both for God's mighty victory. I'm pretty sure the music was fast and unchoreographed. I'm pretty sure people stumbled at times while dancing. It wasn't to please other's eyes, but only God's.
Pay no attention to those who don't have the Holy Ghost its impossible to explain what they claim they understand but clearly do not. Just keep worshipping God if you're a true apostolic.
When a church has the active prayer room and intercessors that POA is known for, the shout is simply an extension of their living for GOD every day in every way. When you live and walk in the presence of God - the shout is just there. Not worked up but prayed down Monday - Saturday to be evident like a blazing fire on Sunday. Any church that has to pray it down on Sunday hasn;t been doing much prayering M-Saturday.
Has everyone forgotten that there are different atmospheres of praise and worship? Why is there an argument about this? waste of time. Just worship how you want and be done with it
thank you so much.... God bless you.... I really dance and praise the lord with all my soul and with my flesh as David said. My heart and My flesh cry out for the living God. and i don't thinks it's bad...
i asked that question because we don't practice frequently this idea.
hi, God bless you, I'm latin, I live at south America, exactly in colombia, I'm pastor kid, and i'd like to know: what does "praise break" mean?, what moment do you practice in?
A praise break is just what we call it North America, not all churches practice the idea. Basically what ends up happening is that the musicians end up just playing their best dance and praise music, it usually happens as the spirit leads on the other hand some others plan it and place into their music services
Amen. Just a reminder, we play our best, dance our best, and sing our best to entertain the Lord. I know there's people out there that will say we're doing this in the flesh, but Psalms 150 says to praise the Lord with dance, singing and all types of instruments.. in simple terms.
I can't get over at 3:09 how you can see the one guy fan the Spirit, it moving through Sister Vesta Mangun and to Bro' Suber. Now I can't say that's what happened, but that's how it looks! Praise God!
It means cranking up the beat and whip the congregation into an emotional frenzy. The conservative Pentecostals in South America (Pentecostal Deus e Amor, Christ Congregation, ect) still pray the Glory and Power of God down. We backslid Americans have to work up a phony shout because we have lost the REAL moving of the Spirit of God. We are worldly! Please do not follow our ways. Thank God you don't know what this is! I BEG YOU --- Please keep it that way!
Ouch, so David dancing before the Lord was wrong to? Even the lame man that Peter pulled up and commanded in Jesus' name to walk, his leaping around the temple was a bad thing to do? All the scriptures that tell us to Shout Hallelujah and to praise God with dance, timbrel, and all matter of imstruments, those are all wrong too? Just because one video shows us praising God like this doesn't mean God hasn't moved in slower and softer services. Look around Youtube and you'll see what I mean.
I never said dancing and shouting was wrong in worship. I have shouted and ran the isles many times, but not in an atmosphere like that which is portrayed at this church. We don't rock-n-roll the moves down WE PRAY! Do we have music and drums? YES! But they are not played to whip up the crowd into a frenzy!
Well this is a "Praise Break". Psalms 150 says to praise with all manner of instruments and dances. The Israelites even worshiped like in this video even with music. I can't seem to understand that you would be alright with running isles and shouting, both also seen in this video, yet against people who are dancing before God without shame and in humility to fast music. Fast music isn't bad. I'm sure the musicians are praising God with their instruments. Not everything has to be slow.
Read my article called "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" at thisdogbarks dott comm. Click on "Articles" and It's the second one down. When you finish, come back and we'll talk about Ps. 150 and fast music. OK?
Okay I read it and seriously sir, music is not how it's played, but the spirit behind is is what's important to discern. the Israelites danced wildly in their praising and worshipping, especially when they went to war with the "enemy". Of course I personally don't thrash around like some seen in this video, but that's just me. But I do enjoy dancing before God in victory of defeat against my "enemies", the devil and his demons, and the victory of a soul won, baptized, or even healed.
Did you read anywhere in my article where I condemned drums or dancing in the Spirit? You didn't find that there. I have danced and shouted many time in worship to the Lord. However, I was not manipulated by an unnaturally fast beat. I love songs like "I'll fly away" and "Won't we have a time when we get over yonder" ,ect...! However, when it gets to where a melody is lost and only a loud rediculously fast throbbing beat is heard, then that noise ceases to be "pleasant" and spiritual.
Eh well, we all have our differences, so I'll respect that. My mother doesn't really like the fast beat songs either. But I like it. Maybe not as fast in the video, but I like it.
And I apologize if I seemed to start getting rough on the edges here with yah'. Sometimes I get that way, but I don't mean to. Honestly though I do see a move of God there, but I do know that apostolic worship in the south is usually a bit more charismatic and wild than up here in the north.
By the looks of the video, it seems that they are not shouting because of the music, but about what was preached before the music began. Looks like a powerful altar service to me :)
This music is in no way "contemporary", the old Pentecostals been doing these shout chords since the 20s they came from the old school black apostolic/holiness church... david danced his clothes off, and personally I can't see anybody dancing their clothes off to "I'll Fly Away". It is what it is though. Holiness is still right.
I don't plan on dancing my cloths off whether David did or not. I have however shouted and danced and run the isles to "I'll fly away". The king of Rock n Roll "Elvis" learned his moves and grooves in the Pentecostal Church. I don't really care how old your shout beat is. If it is beat driven then it is not Godly. The ungodly beat goes all the way back to backslidden Israel and Judah. Therefore, it doesn't suprise me to see it manifest in the 1920s. Yes, it's Holiness or Hell I would agree.
Excuse Me, AH, Where did I say, "drums are of the devil"? Go to thisdogbarks dott comm, click on articles, and read my article "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" and go to the youtube channel holinesspentecostal and watch the videos "Sensationalism" Part 1-7. Until you read my article and listen to this sermon then you my friend have no idea what you are talking about. You are just creating a strawman to buttress you arguement.
If you knew anything about this church, you would know that there is nothing phony about this. This church has had 24/7 prayer going for over 20 years, is consistently going on many day fasts, and are currently on a 21 day Daniel fast.
It is very evident that they are shouting in response to what was just preached by Bro. Suber, which if you have ever heard him, he is a very exciting preacher. In particular his "I'll Holler If I Have To" from Because of the Times a few years back.
Many false religions pray and fast. I judge nothing by that alone. I judge everything by the Word of God, not the # of prayer meetings that a church has. The Catholics and Muslims do the same. Beat driven worship has always been associated with false worship. I will have no part of it. Remember how the prophets of Baal prayed and cried and cut themselves trying to get their god to send the fire upon the alter? This kind of display is very similar.
"Beat driven worship has always been associated with false worship."
Complete fallacy and un-Biblical.
Psalm 150:4 - Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
The timbrel was a primary form of worship in Biblical times. It is a type of tambourine, and hence, a percussion instrument. These timbrels would provide the same "beat driven worship" you complain about here.
You still fail to realize they are shouting about the word of God, not the music.
I can't find Paul having a "Praise Break" in the book of Acts with super fast beats and loud drums and bass. Did I say that the timbrel was wrong? NO! However, if you read Ps. 150 carefully you will note that 5 out of the 8 instruments used in worship were melodious instruments. Therefore, the melody must take the lead in worship, not the beat. We should be moved by the melody. Isaiah 51:3, Eph. 5:19. The beat should accompany the melody, not take the place of it.
The New Testement does not say "singing and making a "beat" in you heart to the Lord". The melody is to RULE in true worship. Yes 3 out of the 8 types of instruments listed in Ps. 150 are percussion. This is precisely my point! They are not to override and overrun the melody, but are to accompany the melody! There is NO melody is this praise brake insanity! NONE! It's all BEAT! Men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are EVIL!
I see several similarities since I do not serve the same god that you serve. The "god of modalism" is a false god. However, I have seen many good Trinitarian Pentecostals try to worship the God of scripture the same way you worship your false christ, and it is very disturbing to me. Rock music is simply not of God and never will be.
Amen. Wanted to comment on something I was taking a look at. Has anyone seen how the Jew's worship? How they dance? I've seen so many similarities between those who dance in our churches and the Hebrews. VandyTank, you are very correct in what you say. POA live each day serving God. You cannot walk into their prayer rooms and find nobody there. But also in this video, the music could be removed and you would still see the same reaction.
To the white guy in the blue shirt at 3:02: YOU BETTA SHOUT UNTO GAWDT!!! LIKE IT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE!!! TAKE MOR ETHAN 30 SECONDS AND GIVE HIM PRAISE!!!
Imagine when Jesus returns and brings the kingdom of God down on us all. This is just a small preview of what it's gonna be like. My my my! What a time we're all gonna have.
Ya'll betta praise him!!! If people think this is radical, what about David? He danced before the Lord with all his might!! People don't have a right to judge someone's praise, you don't know what they have been through. If you can't praise him down here, you won't be able to stand it in heaven!!
When up apostolic get together its a holy ghost and fire time in the lord i love church like this. One of these days if the lord permits i'm going to take a trip to visit them. I love my sisters and brothers in christ. ONE LORD ONE FAITH ONE BAPTISM
Thank God for us Trinitarian Holiness Pentecostals (Acts 2:21). I hope this statement sounds just as arrogant as the one you posted! I thank God for knowing the truth about the TRINITY!
Amen..No other name given among men whereby we must be saved. In order to get to the Father you have to go through Jesus.. There is no other way!!! Jesus only!!
This is awesome! You gotta love services that break out into pure praise and worship! The bible talks about praising Him through song and dance and clapping of hands. In the book of Acts when the were filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues there was no interpretation. It says that it is a gift for everyone. It is a way to communicate with God and for God to work through you. There is power in speaking in other tongues as God allows us to. I know, I have felt it first hand! God bless
i'm no a big fan of "shout" music but to see a whole church shouting is awesome. everybody was moving, old people, young people, even the kids. that's awesome, that's God!
This is the old fashioned way in the white Pentecostal church. The entire place got down. It was the same at campmeetings in those days. King David danced before the Lord and the scripture says "praise the Lord in the dance."
The "Praise Break" however comes from the black churches, Church of God in Christ etc.
truevidence, glad you thought that was awesome. You said you're not a fan of shout music, which is totally alright. My pastor has spoken about how we all worship. Some are loud, some are soft, some are charismatic, some aren't. There is a man in my church that when he got the Holy Ghost, he was just standing around very quietly. But he knew 'cause he heard himself speaking in a language he didn't know! He's a very quiet individual, doesn't dance, hop, shout, ect.
Drunk??? Dude...I dnt wanna get into an argument on youtube and end up lookin like an e-gangster so I aint gonna say much. Just tht what you see is a blessing from God, not disorder. Yall go on and praise Him.
Well, I recognize tht there are those who mock God and give a fake praise like this, but in the right spitit, and when the spirit moves, it's beautiful. But when the Bible tlks about a Burning, the sound of a rushing wind, and speaking in tongues, tht makes me wanna praise Him. And in most cases I've seen this praise was followed by tongues. It's a manifestation of the spirit as originally intended. But to each his own, check the church u were at tho.
And this was intended to respond to "Nevadakidd63"s response...to my response, of his original comment...lol, if tht makes sense...To whom it may concern lol...I'M NOT SAYING THESE PEOPLE ARE faking their praise...lol DEF NOT SAYING THT. Thanks...peace. God Bless
im also not saying this is fake but the bible does say wen speaking in tongues u have to have someone interpert,y cant people sing a good song,praise,learn HIS word wothout getting all worked up.
ive felt the spirit move me but thru talking to people.
some churches fall because of deception wen things get out of order.
Read Acts Ch 2. The Jews thought that Peter and the others with him were drunk. Just because you don't understand it or don't like does not mean its not of God.
I am not talking about tongues. That is a whole different issue. The Jews thought that Peter and the others were drunk. I was not because of they were speaking in tongues. It was because of physical acts that they were doing. How can you tell if someone is drunk? By the way they act. You don't need to know Bible to know that. They were filled with the spirit and praised God. Its the same with King David. They praise God with all their might. "Bless the Lord, Oh my soul and all thats with in me"
If you will notice, when the music gets cranked up the people go to dancing and jumping up and down. When the music slows or stops they stop. That fast beat drives them to do what they do, not the Holy Ghost. Go the thisdogbark dott comm and read my article called "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" and I deal with this very thing you are talking about. God doesn't need a hyped up beat to cause folks to shout. I've seen women shout their hair down without a note of music played.
Sir, I could probably say as Paul, "I speak in tongues more than you all", however, my experiance of the baptism of the Holy Ghost had nothing to do with voodoo music being screamed into my brain over and over again. There was not a note of music played when I received the HG Baptism Jan. 28, 1988. I laid under the power of God for over 4 hours speaking in tongues and magnifying God. I am not criticizing the Holy Ghost. I am criticizing the HYPE! There is a DIFFERENCE!
everyone is entitled to there opinion i guess. The only problem I have with your statement is the word voodoo. It's a poor choice of words. I didnt see anyone sacrificing small animals or drinking chicken blood in this video. I've danced to music in church like this many times. The reason they do it is to crucify their pride. When a person dances like that in front of other people, they forget about what other people think.Theygain a certain amount of freedom from the opinions of other people..
Sorry, I thought I saw chicken blood running down the side of the pulpit. If this is shouting, then I can do it at jazzercize because this is just as spiritual! "Bodily exercise profiteth little". I have ran the isles and shouted all over our "trinitarian" Holiness Church many times. However, I didn't have this kind vain repetitous beat working me into a frenzy. I have ran the isle and danced in the spirit during the opening prayer and even while singing Amazing Grace and Sweet Hour of Prayer.
Where you there during this service? I ask because you are making a heap of assumptions concerning the "vain repetitious beat", without being in that service.
A sinner can get in and dance to this! It is purely beat driven worship like we read about in the OT in Jeremiah. He condemned "Tophet" which was the "garden of the Drum", because they worked the people up in to a frenzy so they wouldn't hesitate to through their babies into the burning hands of Molech. The beat also drowned out the screams of the babies being burned alive. If you want to worship God like that so be it. As for me and my house we will worship him in the beauty of holiness.
God bless you troy1387, but I believe you you've made an error in interpretation. Tophet, a city near Jerus, is translated in Hebrew to mean "place of cremation" referencing the practice of human sacrifice, not the beating of drums. The 150th Psalm gives a charge to musicians to praise the Lord, and the 5th chapter of II Chronicles gives example of singers, musicians,priests, and the entire congregation praising together until the Glory of God filled the Temple! B Blessed my brother in Christ!
Spent a week at youth camp with Jonathan Suber back in the nineties. One week i'll never forget!
jdyess28 1 month ago
Glory...Ain't no rock gonna take my place!
Thaddaeus417 3 months ago
Amen!!!
jaquang18 3 months ago
they went in!!!!!!
drmethod5 3 months ago
This is a real praise break!
darencorredor 9 months ago 3
I'm pentecostal and i love Pastor Rod Parsley, he has a huge church too. I didnt know y'all got down like this! His church does the same thing.
TheThestarplayer 9 months ago
I love it!!! Praise your name Jesus!!
smdbullard90 9 months ago
hetashalalalalalalalalabahA!!!!!
saunei 1 year ago
I absolutely love it when God's people just can't stand it until we are dancing, shouting, singing, running, lying prostrate oh My God My God!!!!
alphashed 1 year ago 2
This is good old Apostolic Music. In old Apostolic Music you could here the piano and organ. Now the Apostolic churches got rid of the piano and told the person playing the organ to quite down. The new songs mostly are to put on a show and for entertainment. The choirs today just gyrate there hips when not in the Spirit and have rock and roll time. Elvis played more godly gospel songs than our worldly (gospel music today).
jketr22 1 year ago
It's really nice to see the POA rejoice, but I personally get a blessing from seeing Pastor Mangun and Mickey Mangun not care what anybody thinks about them and let go and praise God.
97bulldogs 1 year ago
i already knew they pentecostal by the way the shout
darrinladale 1 year ago 2
@thewomanofsteel haha dude it's POA anything can happen lol...but black drummers are better I have to admit...We only have one black drummer in our entire district but he's dabomb.ca!
irishghetto10 1 year ago
What is the structure on the front wall behind the choir?
otterspool 1 year ago
@otterspool it's the baptistry
praiznhym4ever 1 year ago
@thewomanofsteel I say this in love, If you Look at Black, and White How can you truly call yourself a Christian? The True Anointing does care what color you are. Don't get caught up in a lie of the devil!
jasondean2009 1 year ago
Awesome service! such a shame Bro. Suber has lost his way tho and walked away from living a holiness lifestyle seperated unto God.
apostalicpentecostal 1 year ago
Steve Winter (AKA Winterband), who loves to post his goofball video responses on everybody's videos, is nothing more than a lazy, false-christian scum who is worse than an infidel, because he has never worked a real job, but stayed home and let his wife (who has polio) work.
1 Timothy 5:8: But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
2 Thes 3:10: ..if any would not work , neither should he eat.
gillettefoamy 1 year ago
There ain't no party like the Holy Ghost party 'cause the Holy Ghost Party DON'T STOP!!!!!!!!!=] HALLELUJAH!!!
apostolikgurl216 1 year ago 2
i love it even teh old people are dancing.
tpetty7273 1 year ago
look at anthony mangun! thats awesome!
ilovenaltsvideos 1 year ago
Nothing like a Holy Ghost party!!!!!!!!!! The world can have their clubs...this is my kinda party. Hallelujah!!!!! I wanted to shout at my desk just watching yall praise him.
Movinfwd 1 year ago
all of us christains should be soul winners
erichathy222 1 year ago 2
Because most Pentecostals are afraid of what the visitors would say and not what the spirit of the Lord tell them... I remember when most every service was like this... If we could get like this again we could have a Holy Ghost revival like we have never seen before.
justpooh40 2 years ago
Nobody should be afraid of what the world calls them or says about them. And revival is taking place right now. All throughout Ohio (many have prophesied Ohio being the starting point of the End Time revival). And that revival is not only in the UPCI, but other churches around us. A pastor of another denomination in the area I live in was preaching against speaking in tongues to his church, and God filled him and he began speaking in tongues in front of his church. Revival is already here.
jonn86 1 year ago
i need all the christain freinds and subs please thank you i feel we can reach people if we be a freind to them with all meekness and kindness i am trying to do something good on youtube there are so many atheists please help me fight thank you
erichathy222 2 years ago
where is this ministry?
drjaymac 2 years ago
@drjaymac Pentecostals of Alexandria in Alexandria, Louisiana.
jonn86 2 years ago
This is the old school! If more of us would return we would begin to see the Holy Ghost work in a mighty way. Miracles would not be a rarity they would be commonplace! We Pentecostals have become proud and haughty...God forgive us!
revival79 2 years ago
I miss this church soooo. I grew up in this church then moved away. This reminds me of camp meeting in Tioga, La. Everybody shouting in the spirit!!! Whew!
imaBlackRose0330 2 years ago
this the way the pentecostal church needs to get back too the god way from the presents of god love the way you obey god
goodboy7777 2 years ago
My God My God I wish I was there!!!!!!!!!!!!
totmd73 2 years ago
HALLELUYAH!!
lolas133 2 years ago
My God I love this!!!!
Deftguy 2 years ago
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jonn86 2 years ago 11
this is the way the pentecostal church is to have these kinds of services and you can feel the holy ghost in this video and to let you all know this is the same way we have our services in christ gospel church too
have743 2 years ago
now this is praising i love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hippo02 2 years ago
I LOVE POA!!!! i sooo gotta visit lol praise God!!!
ChildOfGod2010 2 years ago
See it's not just black people haha. just a joke
1light 2 years ago
NAW YOU RIGHT MAN!!! HAHAA I'm Black and I LOVE to see my WHITE/Asian/ Hispaics praise him just like the Black folk, THAt's why i LOVE this video.....PRAISE HIM!!!! LOL
KELH1990 2 years ago
or see black brothers praise like hispanic/white/asian folk lol and hispanic praise like white/black/asian folk . . Let praise be universal, all honor and glory be to God
JosueA 2 years ago
Awesome worship service!! I'm glad we aren't the only ones prasing God like this! Keep the fire burning!!!
apostolicheritage 2 years ago
MY GOD!! HALLELUYAH!!
SupremeHero777 2 years ago
WELL GO 'HEAD POA!!!!!!! That's all right!!!! Y'all get down like us COGIC folk...hahaha
KELH1990 2 years ago
PRAISE HIM MY GOD !!!!!!!!!
BISHOPTK 2 years ago
I just loved this,God send the fire back into the church!
RTKMinistries 2 years ago
Actually If you read your history There was No UPCI When Bishop G.T.Haywood was First starting out...The saints both black and white where Formed and they called the Organization the PAW but many of the saints didn't agree with the name Because of the Word WORLD in the PAW..ANd because of issuse with segregation, convetions and Voting many of the Whites Left the PAW and FORMED THE UPCI..How do i Know i'm reading up on it. The 20th Century Pentecostals and there STORy GREAT BOOK...
anthsmith2006 2 years ago
If your church does not grow.. IT IS A DEAD CHURCH!!!
koreanwutard 2 years ago
Why is it people try to explain other's actions? All of you need to work out your own salvation and quit pretending to convert each other. Most of you are still "shopping the sidewalk sale" and haven't even seen what the store can offer.
morrowtrack 2 years ago
For those of you who don't like it, I am sorry but the new testament church was quite lively before the paganism of catholicism came into play....That's what birthed the teaching that we should always sit quietly in church and do nothing. I for one will not sit still and worship an idol.
revival79 2 years ago 2
AMMMMMMMMMENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sitting like manikins is not of God!!! He wants worship!!
koreanwutard 2 years ago 2
AMEN AMEN AMEN!!!
GirlinTheJeanSkirt92 2 years ago
If I remember right, didn't God tell Ezekiel in a vision to preach unto the dead bones, that there would become life within them? A dead church is like a dead body, it lays there. No movement, no sounds, no true worship. A living church is a moving, breathing, lively church. It moves, sings, shouts, dances, heals, grows, worships in Spirit and in truth. God does not want rituals, but He wants a broken soul, repentance, and us to be baptized in His name, and to have His Spirit in us.
jonn86 2 years ago
Alright! I believe that will preach!
BillyJoe316 2 years ago
If i didnt see this I would not have believed it!!
I love it!!! talkin about a good time
carlarrin 2 years ago
Somebody invite me to POA please is my dream meet that church im from Chile...Bless
jovenes180 2 years ago
Yes LORD!!!!
da1stmanadam 2 years ago
dang... look at them people church WHOO !!! man they must feel grate there isnt no better feeling then what there doing right there just feeling the power of the holy ghost and the music is AWSOME i wonder what kind of style you would call that piano
tyty13428 2 years ago
I love this!! This is the way that the bible says to praise God!! Psalm 150:3-6 3. Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp. 4. Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs. 5. Praise him upon the loud cymbals; praise him upon the high sounding cymbals. 6. Let everything that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord.
This is biblical Praise!!
wmrebelfan0026 2 years ago 18
yup and 95% of church out there are DEAD... They need to be worshiping the Lord like this.. This is what you call praise!!!!
koreanwutard 2 years ago
maybe UPC churches are 95% dead!!!...PAW is not nearly dead or dry!!!!
check out the page!
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
what's paw?
koreanwutard 2 years ago
the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World!...like the UPC is predominantly white the PAW is predominantly black..they both started around the same time due to segregation in the 1800-1900 hundreds!!
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
ya i agree some upc churches are dead... they believe in the Word but no out reach or worship like they should be worshiping. My pastor hates churches that are segregated with white, blacks, hispanics, etc... Our church has white, black, hispanics, asians.. everyone that has a soul..
koreanwutard 2 years ago
umm ApostolicKen I believe you are wrong in so many ways The UPCI is not segregated I know plenty of churches that have black people and white.Look up the youtube video of Atlanta West Pentecostal Church they have black people too. Umm if you recall Jesus is not white
rushingtn 2 years ago
I hate how some apostolics try to convert pentecostals to well pentecostals! Gosh the UPC might have some dead churches , but I imagine PAW is just as bad!! I am UPC and plan sticking with the UPC because you know what my church is having a GOOD OLE HOLY GHOST REVIVAL!!! So what's that bout being dead!
rushingtn 2 years ago
This was such an awesome blessing to watch! I felt the Holy Ghost all over this! Praise God!!
Shawnaw88 2 years ago 2
Okay, let me get this right ... are your wishes for all of us to "call evil, good" ? Would Jesus promote or condone this in the temple ?
holywordpreacher 2 years ago
Let me make my words a bit clearer. I don't believe God makes people flail around. I believe in dancing before the Lord, speaking in tongues through the unction of the Holy Ghost, and the Gifts of the Spirit. I believe POA is a blessed church that teaches the truth. I believe in being drunk in the Holy Ghost. I believe Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, and the Trinity is false. Now, to answer your question, The Pharisees called what Jesus did was evil, and knew only God could do what He did.
jonn86 2 years ago
What do you think the Israelites did when they crossed the Red Sea? What did David do when the Ark was recovered? What did the Israelites do when they were told instead of fighting their enemies, they were to worship and praise God in their battle? Now I'm not saying someone who flails across the room looking like they're having a fit is always of God. But I have seen a man who's back was in a horrible position begin to flail and jump around as God gave his back strength and healed it completely
jonn86 2 years ago
So if anyone don't like it, to bad. What POA teaches is the Real Truth, and I don't find anything wrong in this video. I'm not going to fall into temptation of arguing over this matter. But before you judge something you see, like the pharisees judged Jesus for healing and casting out demons, repent and get your spirits in check.
Dclake, I apologize for this matter, keep posting bro'. I'm enjoying it!
jonn86 2 years ago
most defintately
praiznhym4ever 2 years ago
I can't find anything even remotely pleasant to the ears about this music ! This is hideous !!! How can you possibly attribute this to be praise or worship that is pleasing unto the Lord ?!!! There is no way the heavenly choir of angels' singing and musical playing, up in heaven, sounds anything like this trash ! You should be ashamed to carry on in this manner ! Pray that the Lord's mercy and longsuffering doesn't run out on you, before you hopefully repent and turn from such wicked ways !
holywordpreacher 2 years ago
Repent ! The kingdom of heaven is at hand ( what is going on in this "free-for-all" gathering, sure IS NOT the church being a representative of what heaven is like, here on earth ) ! This is vile and sickening ! There is nothing about this, which is holy or pleasing to God ! Keep following after the world, catering to your lusts of the eyes and the flesh, and "thumbing your nose up" to the Word of God ... your pending eternity will be spent in hell !
holywordpreacher 2 years ago
Where's this church located?
koreanwutard 2 years ago
Guys, hold your peace like true Christians, hypocrites! You think the Holy Spirit tells you to judge and verbally attack others? Do you know how many people are in this video that are being healed?! Those who are being delivered from devils and addictions? Sins being forgiven?? Relationships being healed? You guys sound just like the pharisees! Everything Jesus did was wrong in their eyes because their hearts were hardened, and I can tell yours are too! I am praying over you in Jesus' name.
jonn86 2 years ago
How do you know if I'm a hypocrit or not. You don't know anything about the way we live and serve God. NOTHING! I am judging this video based on what I can see and hear! When did I say everything was wrong? Nothing Jesus does is wrong. This is not Jesus! This is a Disco Tech! Jesus delivered me from this and you are calling me a pharisee? I will not hold my peace, but will cry loud spare not and show you your sins. Not even all Oneness preachers agree with this insanity.
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
Hey, I am a Oneness Pentecostal and I don't believe God makes people flip out. I must not of explained my side well. Forgive me for that. I don't believe Jesus makes people flail around and act like they're having seizures. My church is against those things, although I have seen it from time to time only when someone was physically healed though. I'm not saying all of this is of God, but some people are being healed down there.
jonn86 2 years ago
There are always going to be fake worshipers amongst the real ones. Don't worry about them, but worry about your own worship. Stop yelling at everyone else, and be supportive. If they're going to dance in the flesh, or play music in the flesh, then let them. It's God's place to judge, not ours. This is an older video I assume because I don't see this in my church, or other UPCI churches I've been to. But we are still supposed to praise God with each instrument and dancing (Psalms 150). God bless
jonn86 2 years ago
Then throw you Bible away and spit on it. If we can't judge "righteous judgement" we are salt that has lost it's savor! This is the most weak kneed effiminate church age that I've ever seen. Where are the MEN! Take a STAND! WE are LOSING IT! Get a gutteral voice and use it! My My my!!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
I don't judge anything based on a miracle or healings. If I did then I would be a Catholic and follow Benny Hinn!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
Benny Hinn is a fake. I believe in miracles and healings because I have seen them with my own eyes. They were never brought in front of everyone. I was at a service where a man in a wheelchair next to me, having faith that God would heal him right where he was, got out of his wheelchair by himself. My best friend had the youth in my church lay hands on him when he was told that he was going to die from cancer in a few months. He went back to the doctor later, no cancer was found in him.
jonn86 2 years ago
God don't always heal, and I do judge righteously. But I know some people there that got healed. That's not my church, but at my church, I judge righteously. I judge righteously in my own life. I do stand against the enemy. The Lord is my banner, and I won't allow myself to do what many of those did in this video. Anywhere there can be fakes, look at Satan who was supposed to be perfect, yet God saw iniquity in him that He did not put there. Don't judge others, judge your own works.
jonn86 2 years ago
And like I said, we don't do this in my church, we don't believe in fast flailing music always being of God. But righteous judgment doesn't mean to condemn other's with our judgment. It means to choose right and wrong, good or bad, holy or defiled. I don't choose to dance in the flesh or worship in the flesh, neither does my upci church or other upci churches I've been to. But I have seen people be healed, and leap for joy, stumble around as God gives them strength in their back.
jonn86 2 years ago
I'm Glad that God can set us free from this kind of insanity and sensationalism! There is a REAL Holy Ghost and this AIN'T it! This is just nightclub religion and buck dancing! It's SICK!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
This is looking like a "WHITE"
P.A.W. Church .. lol
Glory! This shows you we can get it too.
Thank God for Black and White's shouting together.
YOUNG and OLD, it's great!!!
Love this church
mddale31 2 years ago 5
PA and UPCI used to be one church until they were forced to split do to segregation laws. But today we don't' have that, and I'm glad about that! God's church is a colorful church, and at Azusa Street Revival, there was a colorful congregation having revival prophesied in the Bible.
Act 2:16-17 "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh...."
jonn86 2 years ago 2
YEEEEESSSSSSS!!..yall betta bless his name!!!!!
ApostolicKen 2 years ago
Yall better praise him!!!!!
Stopthepresswhosetha 2 years ago
Awesome! This looks fun! I love Holy Ghost parties!
cloventongues 2 years ago
You don't even know what or who the Holy Ghost is. The Holy Ghost is the SPIRIT OF TRUTH who comes to CONVICT and convince the world of SIN, RIGHTEOUSNESS, and JUDGEMENT! He didn't come to throw us a party you fool!
holinesspentecostal 2 years ago
And when I say don't pay attention I don't mean shun them, but don't let it effect what you know is true in your worship to God. There will always be those that claim falsehood. They forget David, Mariam, etc. They danced with all they had which is all you have? A phony lil raise of hands and couple of jumps or all out giving all you have to God in the Holy Ghost?
cooolbreezy90 2 years ago
Amen! David's wife Michal looked down upon him as he removed his kingly robes, down to his ephod (not naked), and began to leap and dance before God with all his might. He didn't dance a choreographed dance, but he hopped and bopped around.
Miriam went with the other women and danced with tambourines.
Both for God's mighty victory. I'm pretty sure the music was fast and unchoreographed. I'm pretty sure people stumbled at times while dancing. It wasn't to please other's eyes, but only God's.
jonn86 2 years ago
Pay no attention to those who don't have the Holy Ghost its impossible to explain what they claim they understand but clearly do not. Just keep worshipping God if you're a true apostolic.
cooolbreezy90 2 years ago
AMEN!!!@!@!!@! once that Holy Ghost moves through you there's no stopping!!!
koreanwutard 2 years ago
I love the praise that is going forth. Let everything that hath breath praise The Lord! Let every man praise God in his own way.
mdouglas32 2 years ago
Do you know where your children are ?
oldspam 2 years ago
When a church has the active prayer room and intercessors that POA is known for, the shout is simply an extension of their living for GOD every day in every way. When you live and walk in the presence of God - the shout is just there. Not worked up but prayed down Monday - Saturday to be evident like a blazing fire on Sunday. Any church that has to pray it down on Sunday hasn;t been doing much prayering M-Saturday.
lwmcumberland 3 years ago
Has everyone forgotten that there are different atmospheres of praise and worship? Why is there an argument about this? waste of time. Just worship how you want and be done with it
092489sox 3 years ago
My Lord!!! Please fill our church with your spirit over and over and over and over!!! Hallelujah!!!
elderbelanger 3 years ago
kinda proud to see my church being praised!
jakredjfp 3 years ago
Alrite Now..
NiecyLovely 3 years ago
Bro Suber is my former pastor. What an annointed man of God!!! That is the first time I've seen him shout. GOD IS GOOD!
nikkimcgaha 3 years ago
thank you so much.... God bless you.... I really dance and praise the lord with all my soul and with my flesh as David said. My heart and My flesh cry out for the living God. and i don't thinks it's bad...
i asked that question because we don't practice frequently this idea.
and i didn't get the term: "praise break"....
and excuse,,,, my english isn't so good
fireball231 3 years ago
ahhh yawl betta praise him
sexyapostolic1988 3 years ago
hi, God bless you, I'm latin, I live at south America, exactly in colombia, I'm pastor kid, and i'd like to know: what does "praise break" mean?, what moment do you practice in?
fireball231 3 years ago
A praise break is just what we call it North America, not all churches practice the idea. Basically what ends up happening is that the musicians end up just playing their best dance and praise music, it usually happens as the spirit leads on the other hand some others plan it and place into their music services
RobTvHQ 3 years ago
Amen. Just a reminder, we play our best, dance our best, and sing our best to entertain the Lord. I know there's people out there that will say we're doing this in the flesh, but Psalms 150 says to praise the Lord with dance, singing and all types of instruments.. in simple terms.
I can't get over at 3:09 how you can see the one guy fan the Spirit, it moving through Sister Vesta Mangun and to Bro' Suber. Now I can't say that's what happened, but that's how it looks! Praise God!
jonn86 3 years ago
It means cranking up the beat and whip the congregation into an emotional frenzy. The conservative Pentecostals in South America (Pentecostal Deus e Amor, Christ Congregation, ect) still pray the Glory and Power of God down. We backslid Americans have to work up a phony shout because we have lost the REAL moving of the Spirit of God. We are worldly! Please do not follow our ways. Thank God you don't know what this is! I BEG YOU --- Please keep it that way!
troy1387 3 years ago
Ouch, so David dancing before the Lord was wrong to? Even the lame man that Peter pulled up and commanded in Jesus' name to walk, his leaping around the temple was a bad thing to do? All the scriptures that tell us to Shout Hallelujah and to praise God with dance, timbrel, and all matter of imstruments, those are all wrong too? Just because one video shows us praising God like this doesn't mean God hasn't moved in slower and softer services. Look around Youtube and you'll see what I mean.
jonn86 3 years ago
I never said dancing and shouting was wrong in worship. I have shouted and ran the isles many times, but not in an atmosphere like that which is portrayed at this church. We don't rock-n-roll the moves down WE PRAY! Do we have music and drums? YES! But they are not played to whip up the crowd into a frenzy!
troy1387 3 years ago
Well this is a "Praise Break". Psalms 150 says to praise with all manner of instruments and dances. The Israelites even worshiped like in this video even with music. I can't seem to understand that you would be alright with running isles and shouting, both also seen in this video, yet against people who are dancing before God without shame and in humility to fast music. Fast music isn't bad. I'm sure the musicians are praising God with their instruments. Not everything has to be slow.
jonn86 3 years ago 2
Read my article called "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" at thisdogbarks dott comm. Click on "Articles" and It's the second one down. When you finish, come back and we'll talk about Ps. 150 and fast music. OK?
troy1387 3 years ago
Okay I read it and seriously sir, music is not how it's played, but the spirit behind is is what's important to discern. the Israelites danced wildly in their praising and worshipping, especially when they went to war with the "enemy". Of course I personally don't thrash around like some seen in this video, but that's just me. But I do enjoy dancing before God in victory of defeat against my "enemies", the devil and his demons, and the victory of a soul won, baptized, or even healed.
jonn86 3 years ago
Did you read anywhere in my article where I condemned drums or dancing in the Spirit? You didn't find that there. I have danced and shouted many time in worship to the Lord. However, I was not manipulated by an unnaturally fast beat. I love songs like "I'll fly away" and "Won't we have a time when we get over yonder" ,ect...! However, when it gets to where a melody is lost and only a loud rediculously fast throbbing beat is heard, then that noise ceases to be "pleasant" and spiritual.
troy1387 3 years ago
Eh well, we all have our differences, so I'll respect that. My mother doesn't really like the fast beat songs either. But I like it. Maybe not as fast in the video, but I like it.
And I apologize if I seemed to start getting rough on the edges here with yah'. Sometimes I get that way, but I don't mean to. Honestly though I do see a move of God there, but I do know that apostolic worship in the south is usually a bit more charismatic and wild than up here in the north.
jonn86 3 years ago
dont apologise
JothamYurriJah 3 years ago
By the looks of the video, it seems that they are not shouting because of the music, but about what was preached before the music began. Looks like a powerful altar service to me :)
VandyTank 2 years ago
This music is in no way "contemporary", the old Pentecostals been doing these shout chords since the 20s they came from the old school black apostolic/holiness church... david danced his clothes off, and personally I can't see anybody dancing their clothes off to "I'll Fly Away". It is what it is though. Holiness is still right.
militantprince09 3 years ago
I don't plan on dancing my cloths off whether David did or not. I have however shouted and danced and run the isles to "I'll fly away". The king of Rock n Roll "Elvis" learned his moves and grooves in the Pentecostal Church. I don't really care how old your shout beat is. If it is beat driven then it is not Godly. The ungodly beat goes all the way back to backslidden Israel and Judah. Therefore, it doesn't suprise me to see it manifest in the 1920s. Yes, it's Holiness or Hell I would agree.
troy1387 3 years ago
So, you think drums are of the devil? Wow...that's a stretch.
LovinJesus4eva 2 years ago
Excuse Me, AH, Where did I say, "drums are of the devil"? Go to thisdogbarks dott comm, click on articles, and read my article "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" and go to the youtube channel holinesspentecostal and watch the videos "Sensationalism" Part 1-7. Until you read my article and listen to this sermon then you my friend have no idea what you are talking about. You are just creating a strawman to buttress you arguement.
troy1387 2 years ago 2
If you knew anything about this church, you would know that there is nothing phony about this. This church has had 24/7 prayer going for over 20 years, is consistently going on many day fasts, and are currently on a 21 day Daniel fast.
It is very evident that they are shouting in response to what was just preached by Bro. Suber, which if you have ever heard him, he is a very exciting preacher. In particular his "I'll Holler If I Have To" from Because of the Times a few years back.
VandyTank 2 years ago
Many false religions pray and fast. I judge nothing by that alone. I judge everything by the Word of God, not the # of prayer meetings that a church has. The Catholics and Muslims do the same. Beat driven worship has always been associated with false worship. I will have no part of it. Remember how the prophets of Baal prayed and cried and cut themselves trying to get their god to send the fire upon the alter? This kind of display is very similar.
troy1387 2 years ago
"Beat driven worship has always been associated with false worship."
Complete fallacy and un-Biblical.
Psalm 150:4 - Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
The timbrel was a primary form of worship in Biblical times. It is a type of tambourine, and hence, a percussion instrument. These timbrels would provide the same "beat driven worship" you complain about here.
You still fail to realize they are shouting about the word of God, not the music.
VandyTank 2 years ago
I can't find Paul having a "Praise Break" in the book of Acts with super fast beats and loud drums and bass. Did I say that the timbrel was wrong? NO! However, if you read Ps. 150 carefully you will note that 5 out of the 8 instruments used in worship were melodious instruments. Therefore, the melody must take the lead in worship, not the beat. We should be moved by the melody. Isaiah 51:3, Eph. 5:19. The beat should accompany the melody, not take the place of it.
troy1387 2 years ago
The New Testement does not say "singing and making a "beat" in you heart to the Lord". The melody is to RULE in true worship. Yes 3 out of the 8 types of instruments listed in Ps. 150 are percussion. This is precisely my point! They are not to override and overrun the melody, but are to accompany the melody! There is NO melody is this praise brake insanity! NONE! It's all BEAT! Men love darkness rather than light because their deeds are EVIL!
troy1387 2 years ago 2
How in the world is this anyway similar to cutting yourself and calling upon a false God?
Psalm 150:5 - Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
Sure, there are probably a few that are dancing for the wrong reason, but that in no way justifies not having the beat.
Does having a few people in the church praying to God for the wrong reason justify not praying at all?
Absolutely not. The same applies to worship. Matthew 7:12, 1 John 3:18, Luke 6:36-38
VandyTank 2 years ago
I see several similarities since I do not serve the same god that you serve. The "god of modalism" is a false god. However, I have seen many good Trinitarian Pentecostals try to worship the God of scripture the same way you worship your false christ, and it is very disturbing to me. Rock music is simply not of God and never will be.
troy1387 2 years ago
Amen. Wanted to comment on something I was taking a look at. Has anyone seen how the Jew's worship? How they dance? I've seen so many similarities between those who dance in our churches and the Hebrews. VandyTank, you are very correct in what you say. POA live each day serving God. You cannot walk into their prayer rooms and find nobody there. But also in this video, the music could be removed and you would still see the same reaction.
jonn86 2 years ago
To the white guy in the blue shirt at 3:02: YOU BETTA SHOUT UNTO GAWDT!!! LIKE IT'S YOUR LAST CHANCE!!! TAKE MOR ETHAN 30 SECONDS AND GIVE HIM PRAISE!!!
LyricallyC 3 years ago
Did anyone notice half the choir running out of the loft?
thenegrochristian 3 years ago
whats wrong with that????
jdalgetty08 3 years ago
Imagine when Jesus returns and brings the kingdom of God down on us all. This is just a small preview of what it's gonna be like. My my my! What a time we're all gonna have.
gemcityjeff 3 years ago
Ya'll betta praise him!!! If people think this is radical, what about David? He danced before the Lord with all his might!! People don't have a right to judge someone's praise, you don't know what they have been through. If you can't praise him down here, you won't be able to stand it in heaven!!
musicgirl78 3 years ago
It's funny to watch a people get in the Spirit like this, cause you see your shout among them!
BillyJoe316 3 years ago
When up apostolic get together its a holy ghost and fire time in the lord i love church like this. One of these days if the lord permits i'm going to take a trip to visit them. I love my sisters and brothers in christ. ONE LORD ONE FAITH ONE BAPTISM
anthsmith2006 3 years ago
THis sure beats getting drunk in a bar and not remembering what you did the night before.
cg6098 3 years ago
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Thank God for us APOSTOLICs acts 2:38 I thank God for being apart of the ONENESS
anthsmith2006 3 years ago
I am baptist but God knows I love to praise.
One Lord, One faith, One baptism
Thank you!!~~~~
snuggableteddyb 3 years ago
Thank God for us Trinitarian Holiness Pentecostals (Acts 2:21). I hope this statement sounds just as arrogant as the one you posted! I thank God for knowing the truth about the TRINITY!
troy1387 3 years ago
Amen..No other name given among men whereby we must be saved. In order to get to the Father you have to go through Jesus.. There is no other way!!! Jesus only!!
musicgirl78 3 years ago
This is awesome! You gotta love services that break out into pure praise and worship! The bible talks about praising Him through song and dance and clapping of hands. In the book of Acts when the were filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues there was no interpretation. It says that it is a gift for everyone. It is a way to communicate with God and for God to work through you. There is power in speaking in other tongues as God allows us to. I know, I have felt it first hand! God bless
twinjess 3 years ago
they praise, what are going to do about it?
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maaienai 3 years ago
i'm no a big fan of "shout" music but to see a whole church shouting is awesome. everybody was moving, old people, young people, even the kids. that's awesome, that's God!
truevidence 3 years ago
This is the old fashioned way in the white Pentecostal church. The entire place got down. It was the same at campmeetings in those days. King David danced before the Lord and the scripture says "praise the Lord in the dance."
The "Praise Break" however comes from the black churches, Church of God in Christ etc.
SP567 3 years ago
Amen. (2Samuel 6:14-23)
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truevidence, glad you thought that was awesome. You said you're not a fan of shout music, which is totally alright. My pastor has spoken about how we all worship. Some are loud, some are soft, some are charismatic, some aren't. There is a man in my church that when he got the Holy Ghost, he was just standing around very quietly. But he knew 'cause he heard himself speaking in a language he didn't know! He's a very quiet individual, doesn't dance, hop, shout, ect.
jonn86 3 years ago
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it looks as if everyones drunk.
y do they have to get so worked up like this.?
just my words but i think some churches these days are out of order.
but this is just my thoughts GOD is the ultimate judge.
nevadakidd63 3 years ago
Drunk??? Dude...I dnt wanna get into an argument on youtube and end up lookin like an e-gangster so I aint gonna say much. Just tht what you see is a blessing from God, not disorder. Yall go on and praise Him.
Guitarist2790 3 years ago
well some people say drink in the spirit but ive been to churches like this and didnt like what i saw.
as my spirit didnt want me to go in but later i went into the church and the experience was wierd and i felt a bad feeling go thru me.
like benny hinn there have been proof that he's not legit so y is he still doing wat hes doing?
i say the wolves are out and taking inocent people with them.
i dont wanna argue but read the bible the answer is there.
yes Praise JESUS !!
nevadakidd63 3 years ago
Well, I recognize tht there are those who mock God and give a fake praise like this, but in the right spitit, and when the spirit moves, it's beautiful. But when the Bible tlks about a Burning, the sound of a rushing wind, and speaking in tongues, tht makes me wanna praise Him. And in most cases I've seen this praise was followed by tongues. It's a manifestation of the spirit as originally intended. But to each his own, check the church u were at tho.
Guitarist2790 3 years ago
And this was intended to respond to "Nevadakidd63"s response...to my response, of his original comment...lol, if tht makes sense...To whom it may concern lol...I'M NOT SAYING THESE PEOPLE ARE faking their praise...lol DEF NOT SAYING THT. Thanks...peace. God Bless
Guitarist2790 3 years ago
im also not saying this is fake but the bible does say wen speaking in tongues u have to have someone interpert,y cant people sing a good song,praise,learn HIS word wothout getting all worked up.
ive felt the spirit move me but thru talking to people.
some churches fall because of deception wen things get out of order.
only my thots. bless u all
nevadakidd63 3 years ago
Read Acts Ch 2. The Jews thought that Peter and the others with him were drunk. Just because you don't understand it or don't like does not mean its not of God.
asonoflevi 3 years ago
yes but also they spoke in languages that others could understand.
as they could only understand thier own language not others.
but if this tongues is spoken in church the bible says it has to have someone intrepet it or its just jibber jabbering into the air.
GODs not the author of confusion.
but if this gets people feeling good it thier choice im not judging just my thotz on it.
nevadakidd63 3 years ago 2
I am not talking about tongues. That is a whole different issue. The Jews thought that Peter and the others were drunk. I was not because of they were speaking in tongues. It was because of physical acts that they were doing. How can you tell if someone is drunk? By the way they act. You don't need to know Bible to know that. They were filled with the spirit and praised God. Its the same with King David. They praise God with all their might. "Bless the Lord, Oh my soul and all thats with in me"
asonoflevi 3 years ago
this looks like being put into a hypnotic trance.
but you have to get out in the world as i have and see these things if its GODs will as i have.
nevadakidd63 3 years ago
If you will notice, when the music gets cranked up the people go to dancing and jumping up and down. When the music slows or stops they stop. That fast beat drives them to do what they do, not the Holy Ghost. Go the thisdogbark dott comm and read my article called "Is Christian Contemporary Music Really Christian" and I deal with this very thing you are talking about. God doesn't need a hyped up beat to cause folks to shout. I've seen women shout their hair down without a note of music played.
troy1387 3 years ago
the only people who have something negative to say about the Holy Ghost are the one's who have never had it.
cg6098 3 years ago
Sir, I could probably say as Paul, "I speak in tongues more than you all", however, my experiance of the baptism of the Holy Ghost had nothing to do with voodoo music being screamed into my brain over and over again. There was not a note of music played when I received the HG Baptism Jan. 28, 1988. I laid under the power of God for over 4 hours speaking in tongues and magnifying God. I am not criticizing the Holy Ghost. I am criticizing the HYPE! There is a DIFFERENCE!
troy1387 3 years ago
everyone is entitled to there opinion i guess. The only problem I have with your statement is the word voodoo. It's a poor choice of words. I didnt see anyone sacrificing small animals or drinking chicken blood in this video. I've danced to music in church like this many times. The reason they do it is to crucify their pride. When a person dances like that in front of other people, they forget about what other people think.Theygain a certain amount of freedom from the opinions of other people..
cg6098 3 years ago
Sorry, I thought I saw chicken blood running down the side of the pulpit. If this is shouting, then I can do it at jazzercize because this is just as spiritual! "Bodily exercise profiteth little". I have ran the isles and shouted all over our "trinitarian" Holiness Church many times. However, I didn't have this kind vain repetitous beat working me into a frenzy. I have ran the isle and danced in the spirit during the opening prayer and even while singing Amazing Grace and Sweet Hour of Prayer.
troy1387 3 years ago
Where you there during this service? I ask because you are making a heap of assumptions concerning the "vain repetitious beat", without being in that service.
BillyJoe316 3 years ago
I was there via youtube. That was enough!
troy1387 3 years ago
A sinner can get in and dance to this! It is purely beat driven worship like we read about in the OT in Jeremiah. He condemned "Tophet" which was the "garden of the Drum", because they worked the people up in to a frenzy so they wouldn't hesitate to through their babies into the burning hands of Molech. The beat also drowned out the screams of the babies being burned alive. If you want to worship God like that so be it. As for me and my house we will worship him in the beauty of holiness.
troy1387 3 years ago
God bless you troy1387, but I believe you you've made an error in interpretation. Tophet, a city near Jerus, is translated in Hebrew to mean "place of cremation" referencing the practice of human sacrifice, not the beating of drums. The 150th Psalm gives a charge to musicians to praise the Lord, and the 5th chapter of II Chronicles gives example of singers, musicians,priests, and the entire congregation praising together until the Glory of God filled the Temple! B Blessed my brother in Christ!
bishopbwr 3 years ago