Burst dye finish applied to a quilted solid maple drum shell

[TheProgGuy]

Wouldn't it just suck if you had to start ALL OVER if you mess up the lacquer?

[drumfoundry1]

There are two reasons I like water better than alcohol soluble dyes. The first is that water soluble dyes are more colorfast (meaning more resistant to fade), and the other is that water soluble dyes are easier to manage once on the wood. Alcohol dries fast and if you're doing something like a burst as shown in the video, water is much easier to get a smooth transition.

Depending on your topcoat process, you'll need to weigh that against the grain raising issue. Remember.. test test test!

[Ryaninwhite]

Would you ever recommend alcohol soluble aniline dye? The only reason people mention to use it is because it doesn't raise the grains but , if you spray the shell down with water initially maybe it doesn't matter then. Thoughts?

[dashingjavi]

can you do this to any kind of shell??, i mean, any kind of wood, or can you only do this to maple shells??

[drumfoundry1]

It's home made.

[HoboCabbage]

where do you get that little roller thing that the shell sits on?

[akros1989]

rockler.com friend have any seller in Mexico? The reason is that I am interested in selling paint stains, but can not find dealers in Mexico, I hope your answer thanks

[akros1989]

hello friend wanted to know what kind of paint I use if it is only paint and if you use paint to color ... thanks for your help

[drumfoundry1]

- It's easy to make that jig yourself, go to the drumfoundry site and look for the tutorial under the tutorial section. For some reason YT is not letting me put a link.

[drumfoundry1]

- It's not paint but aniline dye stain

- The finished shell is not on the site

- the two dyes are black and purple

- get the rollers at rockler.com

- the topcoat is industrial polyester (not polyurethane). polyester is a 100% solids, high build finish used by high end guitar makers, piano makers, drum companies, etc.

- because polyester is a high build finish, you don't need to sand every layer.

[willingtotry]

What kind of paint do you use?

[johnnykeathley3]

i cant find the finished shell on your site



[akros1989]

que tipo de pintura utilizas y con que la disuelves y a que porciones... gracias

[jonathanpascoal]

will i be able to get my hands on a drum working tool like the one your useing, and if not.. Any other suggestions how i will be able to do this clean and productively... ? would really appreiciate the help....

[jonathanpascoal]

Hey man, after watching ur vid, i decided to stain with custom colours from the paint store i work at... its a 3 toned finish with 3 different colours with all oil applied stains and sealer... but my main concearn is the application process.. i have no clue how im going to apply the stain like you did without that conveyer type rollers ur using to spin the drum around to have a consistent and fairly easy application.

[beastlyninja1]

would you be willing to do this (with different colors) on a 6 piece pdp drumset (3 rack toms 2 floors and a bass)?

[Ismlor]

Why don't you sand after the Shellac and before the sealer? Thanks for the great vid!

[MadShepard]

yeah i'd also like to know where ya got the rollers lol beautiful shell though

[MrJoetrix]

Where did you get the rollers?

[rowdyfish]

Hey man! I am starting with this drum building business. I was curious on what you used in this video to hold the drum on. I could use one of those rollers.. :D If you could get back to me, that would be awesome!

Thanks man! -Rowdyfish

[blackstars26]

Does anyone know wether Acrylic dyes can be spray painted with clear nitrocellulose lacquer or will it react?

[Drillogicaldrummer]

I liked it better before you put more black on it.... beautiful though. nice job.

[cajundaddy64]

also what are you using for your finish clear coats?



[cajundaddy64]

What 2 dyes are you using for this color?

[mrburglar]

A question on raising the grain after the black dye: you say you're doing that (and there is a brief segment of the video in which you're spraying the drum after the black dye has dried), but in a comment above you said that you don't sand "between the stains, the shell might look sanded because the dye dries and lightens up." Do you really raise the grain and not sand it down again?

I'm asking as a woodworker and woodturner, and I've been taught to dye, sand back, dye another color..Thanks!

[kennethmustafa]

i want one 

[claudichick21]

will this work on any wood

[Malmsteen1990]

i think that's not the correct way to apply the sealer D=

[ouray65]

Looks great.

[drumfoundry1]

It is a water based stain. The plastic container has water in it used to raise the grain. We sell the stains on our website.

[glennlayola]

are is that that are you spraying in white plastic container or something...is that water or wat.?? can anyone help me..?

[gendoboy]

what type of stain is that? water based? or a concentrate using acetone or laq thinner?and whats up with the scream at 7:10?

[gendoboy]

what type of stain is that? water based? or a concentrate?

[presbarkeep]

LOL price is right :D

[johnnymac1986]

i try to avoid using water, because the moisture can get trapped under the lacquer, nice stain job tho man, quality work!!

[LocalYocal13]

I was watching Price is right the same time the theme music came on! Weird!

[kenny90297]

nice music lol

[DHBallard]

Where do you get the aniline stains from? I'm building a kit with the same color scheme.

[ajhjazz87]

I noticed when you were apllying the dye, you moved in the opposite direction of the wood grain. Was that intentional or does it matter? Also, as far as the prepping the shell goes...I heard its possible to sand too much? At what point do I know the shell is sanded enough to finish? Great video, thanks!

[drumfoundry1]

Mostly I was applying in a circular motion because a quilt figure has the grain opening pointing in all directions. The goal is to force dye down the grain openings. Sanding a shell too smooth closes the grain and doesn't allow good stain penetration. Sanding to 120 is plenty. Sanding sealer plus topcoat is for smoothing the surface.

[drumfoundry1]

I guess I say 220 in the video but 120, 220 is fine.

[eltexano77057]

WOOOW! Really great! Did you used pre-stain? What type of sand paper did you used between the stains?

[drumfoundry1]

No pre-stain. Personally I've always found a proper sanding works better. No sand paper was used between the stains, the shell might look sanded because the dye dries and lightens up. When the topcoat goes on the color will pop again.

[eltexano77057]

Ahhh Ok, Thanks A LOT! :D Keep building nice drums!

[PeteRepeat00]

@drumfoundry1 by "top coat" you mean shellac?