@charlessavarese That stand was sort of a homemade affair. It was the top part of an older stand with a skinny top rod (similar to a Ludwig 1400) holding the top cymbal and the china was held in place by a cowbell U clamp holding a washer and felt in place. I set these drums up and tore them down several times for Louie and that is the way that stand was rigged. You need a bottom section that will take a 5/8ths inch tube and then that holds the 3/8ths top rod that will fit through the cym. hole.
@KRO222 Thanks. I may have to go to a machine shop with the parts and have it made. There are many stack stands on the market, but none the 16" that I need.
wow....who woulda thunk it. Here I am, a 15 year old boy, who loves jazz. I'm just glad that I didn't get drawn into liking Travis Barker. Louie Bellson was the greatest jazz drummer I've ever heard! Hey, BTW God, I'll trade you Lady Gaga and Justin Beiber for Louie back!
I'm not mad , just thought maybe you weren't aware of that fact. Lots of Jazz guys have used double bass drums...just not in the way that Lars and other guys do it nowadays.
@spudsmagicvideos a lot of rock drumming techniques come from jazz because the advent of the drumset centered around jazz.... even the rimshot is a jazz technique.... double bass was used in jazz for when double strokes needed to be played on bass drum and also in soloing...
i'm not too into big band.. but i'm starting to listen to more, buddy was a monster, but his attitude seemed too cocky, bellson is more of my style i think, so good.
it's to distinguish 2 different "attack tones" from each bass drum while playing a double bass pattern.lots of drummers have done so in the past..i believe billy cobham has done it as well, i think..love that chrome canister seat !!awsome !!
great photos. Does anyone know why he has the bass drum beaters turned to different beaters on each drum? I have never seen that before. I never noticed a tremendous difference in sound when he was playing.
I'm not sure that was a conscious decision on his part for them to be that way. I helped set up the drums that day and the pedals were ramdomly pulled out of the cases and put on the bass drums. He had more than one set of pedals. I helped set them up again at his next gig and at that one we used his DW 9000 series pedals which did have the same beater sides used on both of them.
Just lucky, I helped out one year just because no one else was around and , as a drummer, I somewhat knew what I was doing. Louie liked the job i did so I got to be one of his unofficial "drum techs" for the following visits. He'd ask for us by name. I helped him several times which was truly an honor. Check out my other videos, there is one of us helping Louie set up his drums (edited down to just a couple of minutes from the half hour or so that it actually took.
Congrats for the pics...I met him a few times,late 70's...what a nice man he was ,to everyone I heard also.He an Buddy{who I saw 18-20 times also} really set the bar for excellence in the art of jazz drumming,Its a blessing to see these great artists even today.Should be a rule to anyone wanting to play drums...you need to see how it should be done .
The set is not for sale (at least as far as I know). These are just pictures I took of it from a Louie Bellson concert . I helped Louie set them up and tear them down so I had access before the concert to take these photos.
Think of all the changes LB has seen in drum equipment over his career - from his start in the late 1920's (born in 1924 and started playing at the age of 3) to this kit... Amazing.
What brand is the? I've been looking everywhere for that stack stand holding the crash over the china.. Can anyone help me? hardware
charlessavarese 3 months ago
@charlessavarese That stand was sort of a homemade affair. It was the top part of an older stand with a skinny top rod (similar to a Ludwig 1400) holding the top cymbal and the china was held in place by a cowbell U clamp holding a washer and felt in place. I set these drums up and tore them down several times for Louie and that is the way that stand was rigged. You need a bottom section that will take a 5/8ths inch tube and then that holds the 3/8ths top rod that will fit through the cym. hole.
KRO222 3 months ago
@KRO222 Thanks. I may have to go to a machine shop with the parts and have it made. There are many stack stands on the market, but none the 16" that I need.
charlessavarese 3 months ago
the inspiration to all metal kits around the world
robulrich 1 year ago
wow....who woulda thunk it. Here I am, a 15 year old boy, who loves jazz. I'm just glad that I didn't get drawn into liking Travis Barker. Louie Bellson was the greatest jazz drummer I've ever heard! Hey, BTW God, I'll trade you Lady Gaga and Justin Beiber for Louie back!
startrooper64 1 year ago
They are definitely the best example We could have ever had.
carloscastrto20 1 year ago
he's a jazz drummer? i can't imagine jazz with double bass....
spudsmagicvideos 1 year ago
@spudsmagicvideos
Louie INVENTED the double bass drum set back in the 40's...so he I guess he earned the right to play it on whatever style of music he liked.
KRO222 1 year ago 7
@KRO222 dude i'm sure he did and i'm sure he can, calm down man! i never said i had anything against him, jeez!
spudsmagicvideos 1 year ago
I'm not mad , just thought maybe you weren't aware of that fact. Lots of Jazz guys have used double bass drums...just not in the way that Lars and other guys do it nowadays.
KRO222 1 year ago
@KRO222 i would like to see a vid someone is playing jazz double bass do you know one? =)
ThisBenJams 1 year ago
@KRO222 Ed Shaughnessy comes to mind also.
BassmanII 10 months ago
@KRO222 i dun think there were any other genre's pf music back then
rasmondog 1 year ago
@spudsmagicvideos a lot of rock drumming techniques come from jazz because the advent of the drumset centered around jazz.... even the rimshot is a jazz technique.... double bass was used in jazz for when double strokes needed to be played on bass drum and also in soloing...
quackbeef 1 year ago
i'm not too into big band.. but i'm starting to listen to more, buddy was a monster, but his attitude seemed too cocky, bellson is more of my style i think, so good.
did you play the set?!?!
toddmonster 2 years ago
it's to distinguish 2 different "attack tones" from each bass drum while playing a double bass pattern.lots of drummers have done so in the past..i believe billy cobham has done it as well, i think..love that chrome canister seat !!awsome !!
blica1 2 years ago
great photos. Does anyone know why he has the bass drum beaters turned to different beaters on each drum? I have never seen that before. I never noticed a tremendous difference in sound when he was playing.
deputy1229 2 years ago
I'm not sure that was a conscious decision on his part for them to be that way. I helped set up the drums that day and the pedals were ramdomly pulled out of the cases and put on the bass drums. He had more than one set of pedals. I helped set them up again at his next gig and at that one we used his DW 9000 series pedals which did have the same beater sides used on both of them.
KRO222 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply and the photos. He was an amazing drummer. Wish I had the privlidge to have met him.
deputy1229 2 years ago
how'd you get to help him set up?
BigBoiJC 2 years ago
Just lucky, I helped out one year just because no one else was around and , as a drummer, I somewhat knew what I was doing. Louie liked the job i did so I got to be one of his unofficial "drum techs" for the following visits. He'd ask for us by name. I helped him several times which was truly an honor. Check out my other videos, there is one of us helping Louie set up his drums (edited down to just a couple of minutes from the half hour or so that it actually took.
KRO222 2 years ago
it's to distinguish 2 different "attack tones"
while playing a double bass rhythm pattern..lots of drummers have done that in the past..i think billy cobham did it as well !
blica1 2 years ago
Congrats for the pics...I met him a few times,late 70's...what a nice man he was ,to everyone I heard also.He an Buddy{who I saw 18-20 times also} really set the bar for excellence in the art of jazz drumming,Its a blessing to see these great artists even today.Should be a rule to anyone wanting to play drums...you need to see how it should be done .
buddy92585 2 years ago 4
I LOve the hardware and the drum throne!!!
elbataquero 2 years ago
Wheres his drum kit and where can I buy his signiture kit its nice rip Louie Bellson
This awsome remo
Glicksterbanddrum 2 years ago
why is the drum kit for sell???????????/
norwayfinland 2 years ago
The set is not for sale (at least as far as I know). These are just pictures I took of it from a Louie Bellson concert . I helped Louie set them up and tear them down so I had access before the concert to take these photos.
KRO222 2 years ago
that " trash can " throne is funky ain't it ?
mlcoo17 2 years ago
well, by todays standards, but 50 years ago it would be the norm
sgtpepper1138 2 years ago
What CD is this tune from ?
ludwig222 2 years ago
The song is "The Hawk Talks" from the album "Duke Ellington! Black, Brown, & Beige" by Louie.
KRO222 2 years ago
Thanks for the shots of the set KRO222. Louie will be missed. One of the greats.
Larry in Taiwan
TheyCallMeGroucho 2 years ago
Think of all the changes LB has seen in drum equipment over his career - from his start in the late 1920's (born in 1924 and started playing at the age of 3) to this kit... Amazing.
techathens 3 years ago
R.I.P.
mgafcm 3 years ago
Hey, that looks like my set! Petecatz.
petecatz 3 years ago
NICE! Enjoyed it immensely!! (Vipercussionist from DFO)
1MustHave1UserName 3 years ago