Copy the same kik on to another drum pad and connect directly to side chain input. No need for the spider thing, your only needing to trigger the side chain. Your complicating the matter.
Will say this though. Reasons sidechain blows away Ableton's which always sounds late no matter how its set. I feel sorry for all those guys struggling away with ableton lives sidechain wondering why their chaining fx doesn't sound good.
You use another or the same kick in a different cell and directly connect it to the sidechain. Your not meant to hear it. This also gives the advantage that when you mute the kik drum that is supposed to be heard you can still have the side chain going if you dont want the rise in volume when the trigger is muted.
Using spider is good if you want to trigger multiple sources from the same kick.
read my other comment on reese bass. u r helping me along nicely with things i didnt know.can i ask where u got those break rex files from or do u know where i can aquire them?plz get back.thanks
its not a vst, reason only uses its own inbuilt instruments. The synth he is using though is called, 'malstrom'. To use it as a vst, you would have to rewire the entire reason program through a channel in whatever sequencer you use. Otherwise, its not possible to use malstrom without reason, its a pity. Its one of the reasons i want the program
I had been experimenting with this and basically had been doing pretty much what you're doing here ... but I was noticing you used a big mixer for the final mix, do you think there is an advantage of using this for a sidechaining application instead of a line mixer or even spider merger?
Hi Sabretoof. No not at all. It was just easier to show it on such a small screen with a big mixer. The signal just remains the same as I did not touch the faders of the mixer.
is this legit, yes? i'm in work and can't use sound. i've been looking through forums for ages now and many folk seem to think that it cannot be done in reason. really hope it works.
when you took the filter off at the start the main effect for me was lost... you didnt turn it back on at the end...it was missed... when i turn it on and off it does not have that effect
there is an easier way to achieve this. if you look on the back of a device such as the rex, you can hook up the Modulation LFO output, into the master volume, or res, and then alter the LFO rate to 1/4 (for house style compression) and then adjust via the knob on the back of the device you are modulating
When we say side-chain compression we mean using a compressor. Why use a work around like you propose when the actual way to do it is available. This guy shows actual side chain compression. Using an LFO isn't quite the same because it doesn't follow the volume of the kick like side chaining does.
you have to copy a kick on another track and put its output to the sidechain and not to the master. So you won't hear that track but it is still triggering the bass.Just always copy the trigger track with the main kick, or leave it running in breaks where you will hear the bass, etc
The last step throws it off with the mixer being split to two channels @ 3:12 on...
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tommncradio 3 months ago
Hey Panda... I'm digs from brazil, my english is not the best, but I wanna try to say, that when I heard the song Moscow.... my god!
i felt the life that your song have. really pretty good.... I'm your fan since that.
digssnanda 1 year ago
side chaining is such an important part of almost all house production
afiresavesday 1 year ago
Nice stuff, btw, if u guys like electro-house / house, check out my channel, got some pretty sick stuff u'd like!
ToxikMuzik 1 year ago
good job explaining everything,
everyone else's reason 4 videos are full of their bitchy snob ass's saying how good their beat is
Vokja 1 year ago
great site for drum and bass production is dnbsamples[dot]net
2imma 1 year ago
Fuck Liz.
ImpressionableTeen 1 year ago
just use an upwards sawtooth lfo on the volume than you got almost the same effect
mimaxworld 1 year ago
Why does it sound different the first time than to the end result
gibsonmozart 1 year ago
@gibsonmozart maybe he mastered it
bestplugins 1 year ago
Thanks alot, great tutorial mate!
Lunaspice 2 years ago
you dutch aren't you? :D your accent.
zvennn 2 years ago 3
I fucking hate all these ads. Makes me switch the page to another
LALLZ 2 years ago 6
yeh, google is a fucking sell out
dodgers90000 2 years ago
also known as Stem Compression..
Nice tutorial and this can work with any DAE/DAW and with any instrument or vocals! for anyone whos reading!
theendcredits 2 years ago
this is program is free...?
krvvaviot17 2 years ago
no, it costs quite a bit.
rebelyelleasyrider 2 years ago 8
no its not free
alexyyoo 2 years ago 2
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It should be free, shittiest program evar, it even sounds worse than this guy's accent.
VikingBlud 2 years ago
sounds shit to people who dont use it properly.
Lentlygent 2 years ago 6
it will only set you back about 300 bucks...legally
gibsonmozart 1 year ago
why do you duplicate the signal instead of moving the ratio down a bit? Does it really make a difference in the end?
EdynWardenhari 2 years ago
Duplicates the signal because if he just has the bass drum going into the sidechain input, he'll lose the actual kick drum sound.
When you throw it in the side-chain, it acts as a modulator, but you won't hear it. Same as using a carrier signal in a vocoder.
So, one goes to sidechain (you'll never hear the kick from this) and one goes back to a free input on the mixer so you can hear it...
dariunas 2 years ago 3
great tutorial
allanzaya 2 years ago
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faredust77 2 years ago
Doesnt work for me
heestenhats 2 years ago
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Dude, naaaaaaaaaw! This is a good tutorial but dude... This ain't NEVER drum and bass. Sorry
effelicious 2 years ago
Dude, please READ!
It's just a tutorial and it says:
Panda Drum & Bass | Side Chain Compression with Propellerhead Reason 3 (ELECTRO HOUSE) <-- !!!
MalPhunktion 2 years ago 5
Read first and then answer. Maybe you overlooked his Video information -> Drum 'n Bass Tutorial - Using side chain .....
Have a nice day
effelicious 2 years ago
this is in title ......ELECTRO HOUSE
mainro572 2 years ago
WTF that isn't the point you noob!
mayzon111222 2 years ago
it says electro house in the title, who said it was drum and bass?
bigmanhas 2 years ago 2
Panda is a dnb producer. Search for Panda - Baghdad. Get a clue before opening your mouth.
Frishkorn 2 years ago
Excellent tutorial my friend. This explains exactly how to do side-chain with Reason.
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what is the program called that u use or is it just me being dum??
scrambleegg1 2 years ago
It says "with Propellerhead Reason 3", its you being dumb im afraid.
Fulfulftw 2 years ago 2
I want this mix.
snow487 2 years ago
:P ik hoor dat je nederlands bent!!:P
timeah62 2 years ago
Copy the same kik on to another drum pad and connect directly to side chain input. No need for the spider thing, your only needing to trigger the side chain. Your complicating the matter.
Will say this though. Reasons sidechain blows away Ableton's which always sounds late no matter how its set. I feel sorry for all those guys struggling away with ableton lives sidechain wondering why their chaining fx doesn't sound good.
chompy410 2 years ago
But then you wouldn't hear the kick.
BreakbeatNightmare 2 years ago
Are you thick?
You use another or the same kick in a different cell and directly connect it to the sidechain. Your not meant to hear it. This also gives the advantage that when you mute the kik drum that is supposed to be heard you can still have the side chain going if you dont want the rise in volume when the trigger is muted.
Using spider is good if you want to trigger multiple sources from the same kick.
chompy410 2 years ago
u r epic
Jack9333 2 years ago
Had direct door dat je van NL was =D
Goeie vid !
RpR1337 2 years ago
what application is this?
coxywoxy09 2 years ago
reason from propellarheads
djdef9 2 years ago
dude, thanx for posting it
Termaximum 3 years ago
actually the breaks were on the timesplit video.lol
BRAKESUK80 3 years ago
read my other comment on reese bass. u r helping me along nicely with things i didnt know.can i ask where u got those break rex files from or do u know where i can aquire them?plz get back.thanks
BRAKESUK80 3 years ago
nice, i just use the volume controll to ''sidechane'' the bass. but this maybe is better hehe:)
Detektor 3 years ago
hold shift thing -extremely practical!
kevkondro 3 years ago
this was VERY usefull for me, thx
tonno44 3 years ago
Great tutorial, I never knew I could even do this until i watched this vid...great for beginniners like myself
em3sis 3 years ago
thx for the tutorial man
. which vsti are you using for the synth ?
karmapoli 3 years ago
reason does not support VSTi
gladanka 3 years ago
its not a vst, reason only uses its own inbuilt instruments. The synth he is using though is called, 'malstrom'. To use it as a vst, you would have to rewire the entire reason program through a channel in whatever sequencer you use. Otherwise, its not possible to use malstrom without reason, its a pity. Its one of the reasons i want the program
okidot 3 years ago
haha no many dutch guysmaking these tutorials, good to see
good post
wereismymind 3 years ago
very good tutorial, thank you!
one question, what software do you use for your synths?
caosvalencia 3 years ago
nice tutorial, but i i cant make that kind of sound, tried many times : /
the4444guy 3 years ago
Awesome tute man! would you be able to post some more? I love your music, retake manhattan song is my favourite! listen to it every day
louis077 3 years ago
Awesome! Thanks very much!
JackRayner 3 years ago
thats nice 5/5 stars
xAzakura 3 years ago
kool tut m8
zerito84 3 years ago
I had been experimenting with this and basically had been doing pretty much what you're doing here ... but I was noticing you used a big mixer for the final mix, do you think there is an advantage of using this for a sidechaining application instead of a line mixer or even spider merger?
sabretoof 3 years ago
Hi Sabretoof. No not at all. It was just easier to show it on such a small screen with a big mixer. The signal just remains the same as I did not touch the faders of the mixer.
pandadnb 3 years ago
hey panda u have ur own album is that right ?
stussyboys 3 years ago
como se llama este programa??
name este programa????
yonattan88 4 years ago
Programa es Reason
spacemanvector32 3 years ago
thanks
muchos gracias amigo..
yonattan88 3 years ago
de nada...rock on :)
spacemanvector32 3 years ago
reason
pitgordon 3 years ago
el programa es Propellerhead Reason 3
pandadnb 3 years ago
@yonattan88 AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
PyroMayora 1 year ago
como se llama este programa??
yonattan88 4 years ago
is this legit, yes? i'm in work and can't use sound. i've been looking through forums for ages now and many folk seem to think that it cannot be done in reason. really hope it works.
buddner 4 years ago
Yes it's legit. Reason supports side chain compression.
pandadnb 3 years ago
Gozer, Echt super bedankt! duidelijke tutorial=)
Zou je er misschien nog een video kunnen maken over de tip's & tricks van het produceren van Electro / house?
THANKS
Olaf
Olafjeplx 4 years ago 2
Hoi Olaf, ja ik zal misschien nog een doen over electro house synths. Blijf kijken en abonneer je!
pandadnb 3 years ago
Soepele uitleg; topvideo's ouwe!
(je gaat soms wel een beetje snel... ;) )
arwindeboer 4 years ago
ik meende aan je stem al te horen dat je nederlands was:P
tnx voor de tutorial anyway;)
t4twister 4 years ago
when you took the filter off at the start the main effect for me was lost... you didnt turn it back on at the end...it was missed... when i turn it on and off it does not have that effect
slimdads 4 years ago
there is an easier way to achieve this. if you look on the back of a device such as the rex, you can hook up the Modulation LFO output, into the master volume, or res, and then alter the LFO rate to 1/4 (for house style compression) and then adjust via the knob on the back of the device you are modulating
yonirules 4 years ago
When we say side-chain compression we mean using a compressor. Why use a work around like you propose when the actual way to do it is available. This guy shows actual side chain compression. Using an LFO isn't quite the same because it doesn't follow the volume of the kick like side chaining does.
willywooba 4 years ago 3
This is directed towards yonirules
willywooba 4 years ago
Awesome thanks man KOMPRESSOR..its the sh*t!
optronix001 4 years ago
thanks, gives me something to mess with in reason til 4 comes out
SoundsofSulfur 4 years ago
myspace com/abeven
mymusic dk/abeven
spasserabe 4 years ago
Thanks! I finally know how it works...
BlackHoleSettler 4 years ago
nice.. thats also known as "ducking" ?
cosine303 4 years ago
you have a loud keyboard lol, thanks for the lesson
JohnButtersmurf 4 years ago
it sounds really awesome but I have no idea whats going on :(
leodabatc 4 years ago 2
Look & listen to the video a few times. The volume of one instrument is modified in the opposite direction by the volume of another instrument.
pandadnb 4 years ago
Is it not easier to use the mclass mastering suite combi?, there you can compress to.
Metatronicus 4 years ago
yo is there a way of keeping the compression while the kick is muted?
BudgeBurnley 4 years ago
you have to copy a kick on another track and put its output to the sidechain and not to the master. So you won't hear that track but it is still triggering the bass.Just always copy the trigger track with the main kick, or leave it running in breaks where you will hear the bass, etc
thomashagenbeek 4 years ago
Yeah cheers ive learned it now ; )
BudgeBurnley 4 years ago
nice man pretty helpful
Makynash 4 years ago
cool !
Thx
razvanab29 4 years ago