Nothing more to say except: I don't deal in absolutes. Absolute statements invariably expose severe ignorance and an inability to appreciate the far, far-reaching consequences of acting on them. I could honestly interpret some of this stuff to mean we shouldn't have a military or public health care or scientific research funding. All because someone has a specific concept of what someone deserves. There is clearly nothing more that can be said on either side.
I'm glad that young people don't vote. I thought socialism was the way when I was younger...
It wasn't until I moved to Alberta, started making over $100k a year by working 60 hours a week did I realize, "Why should I pay for some slacker that doesn't want to work, when I'm out in the middle of nowhere, away from my family and friends busting my hump???"
For you NDP fanboys: Get a real job and you'll understand.
For you Liberal fanboys: I don't even know where to start! LOL
Think about it. How many Conservative special interest groups are there on the dole? Compare that to Left wing special interest groups; gay groups, feminist groups, women's groups, aboriginal groups, the list goes on and on and on forever! All of them screaming for handouts!
Conservative = I don't need help, I'll do it myself
Left wing = I can't do it! I need help! I need government funding! We need to tax Conservatives more because it isn't fair they are successful! (*Sob*)
No non sequitur at all. Most of the special interest groups I mentioned are slackers, as in they want to rely on government handouts instead of working for a living.
Same for my Leftie diatribe. Instead of doing what Conservatives do, they whine about it and how the government should look after them, or that rich people that work(ed) hard for their money are responsible for their(lefties) lack of success, instead of their lack of ambition or work ethic etc.
@EruditeCanadian I'm sure the Jersey Shore cast and most of the auto companies have their money now because of their ambition and work ethic, right? Surely not anything like inheritance or bailout money.
Most people's problem with the rich-vs-poor thing is not that there are rich people, but that the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger. Are you telling me that people work harder now than they did decades ago?
Repeating what you say isn't going to convince anyone.
Good point about the entertainment industry. I agree totally our system of who makes what is probably 180 degrees of what it should be. Ultimately, however, it is up to you and me who makes what.
If nobody watched Jersey Shore, the moronic cast would be back working at McDonalds, where they belong. BUT, enough of us DO watch it for the network to justify paying them what they make. It's that simple. No ratings, no jobs, no money.
And about the gap between rich and poor getting wider; that too for the most part is your and my doing as consumers. High paying manufacturing jobs have been leaving Canada for decades. Why? Because rich people close factories and more them to China? Not really.
Because "WE" consumers want cheaper and cheaper goods, and don't care where we get them from. If no one bought Asian made textiles/plastic/toys etc, domestic companies would fill the demand.
@EruditeCanadian So are you going to attribute success to hard work or to market forces? You can't take a hard line on one without ignoring the other. Are people being screwed over or are they not? Do people "deserve" what they get or do they not? And on what basis?
Fiscal conservatism is fine and great but some people just make it sound like there should be no taxes/government at all, other than to enforce some vague notion of morality.
Hard work is essential in order for most of us to succeed. It isn't up to the government to hold our hand and make sure we succeed "just because". No one is entitled to a job.
Regarding lost jobs/trade deficits/wage gap etc, we all deserve to get screwed, because we are all part of the problem. Every time you or I buy a good that is made in China/India/Asian we are contributing to the loss of "wealth generating" manufacturing jobs. We are also shipping wealth out of the country
lol, no one here has asserted any of the things you've criticized. You're just repeating your same assumptions over and over. You're just stating that entire groups of people are slackers, based on your own life. Do you have any idea how backwards that sounds? And your response is to blame the foreigners? Protectionism seems pretty left-wing to me...
Did you know that less than a century ago, women weren't considered people, and Asians were arbitrarily sent to prison camps?
The left constantly blame everything and everybody else for they way things are, when really they are the problem. But, instead of changing things, they whine about how the government needs to mollycoddle them.
I'm not protectionist at all. Protectionism implies government intervention like tariffs. I promote Canadian's giving a shit about their fellow Canadians and buying from their neighbour instead of from China.
I also don't blame foreigners for anything. It's Canadians that are choosing to buy Chinese lead-cadmium toys or melamine milk instead of good quality Canadian products. It's the same people whining about the rich getting richer, that are making the rich richer.
Same for immigrants. An Indian moves 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray, but an unemployed Ontarian won't? But whines that he can't find a job!
It's equivalent, you're expecting the consumer to do what the government would usually force to happen by imposing a tariff. You're just cherrypicking examples to claim that consumers can just resist market forces.
There is a cost to entering any job market and *gasp* not everybody can incur it. For a fresh university graduate, moving 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray might be a fatal risk. And that's not even getting into people disadvantaged by a host of other things.
It's not equivalent at all. The left claims that the government needs to do this and do that, tax these people more, give those people more handouts, when really the government shouldn't be involved at all. One thing governments are good at is screwing things up, Liberal or Conservative.
I left Ontario for Ft. McMurray with a couple hundred bucks and maxed credit cards. Within 2 years I was making 4X more than I did in ON. A risk worth taking.
A success does not alone make a risk worth taking. Many factors go into this. Maybe you were lucky. This is basic statistics.
There are certain groups of people (e.g. Aboriginals) who can't crawl out of their situations. You don't know why, so you assume they're slackers. I'll remind you that that is my beef with what you're saying. Maybe not all of these interest groups are legitimate, but many are. Reality is complicated.
"Some people are "disadvantaged" enough that they REALLY can't, but not most."
Yeah sure, try going back to that when you've specifically pointed out women/gay/aboriginal groups. Discrimination against these people is real. You can't seriously tell me that no one considers the fact that a woman might go on paid maternal leave. You're not any of these people. How can you claim to relate to them, never mind outright judge them?
I don't judge them, I just don't see how they are my problem. I work hard for my family. I moved away from my parents and friends to better my situation for my family. I am responsible for them, not responsible for the people you mentioned. They are responsible for themselves.
Why should I pay for them? That's what I don't like about the left. They want to reward failure and punish success.
Go to Syncrude's website. They are always looking for women and aboriginal employees.
"I call people slackers but I'm not judging them"
Wouldn't it be better if you just copy-pasted instead of trying to come up with another way to say the same thing?
Also did you seriously just cite one example to refute me?
Your statement about the Aboriginal is simply mind-blowing. There's nothing I can say to you now until you have any appreciation for the underlying social issues. Until then you can delude yourself with your anecdotes.
Ok, sure, one example isn't much, but the fact remains. They aren't my problem. Natives, gays, womens rights groups, feminists etc.
Not my problem. Why should I and all my fellow hard working Conservatives have to pay for other peoples problems? Is it your problem that I have a gambling problem or eat too much? Is it my problem that you can't keep a job or you smoke too much?
No to either. Our problems are our own and it is up to us to solve them. Not the government's
Is it my problem that a child can't go to school? Is it my problem that people are sick with various diseases and funded research has to be done to save them? Is it my problem that most people need grants to afford college? Is it my problem that there are dictatorships in other places? Is it my problem that women are abused? Is it my problem that people are polluting the earth and possibly driving key organisms to extinction?
Personally, I'd rather not subscribe to absolutes.
Gays are a small minority. Womens groups don't really represent all women. In reality, they just like to whine about how hard they have it, while milking as much money out of the taxpayers as possible.
Take battered women's organizations for example: Half the population is women. Maybe half of women are married. Let's say 10% of married women get abused. So 35mil/2/2/10=875,000. That's 2.5% of the population. I would say that's special interest
The other thing the left doesn't seem to understand is that the government doesn't have infinite resources. Conservatives tend to put priorities on things with tangible benefits, as the money they spend comes from tangible work.
Every dollar spent on health care or education comes back to the government and society as increased GDP or prolonged working career etc.
Making sure that gays have high self esteem, or that they can get married legally has virtually no tangible benefits.
I try to come up with different way of phrasing my argument because you dont seem to understand what I'm saying. Even if people are legitimately disadvantaged, that doesn't mean I should have to pay for them.
If you were the last person on earth, who would be responsible for you eating or having shelter?
The left's "POOR ME, POOR ME" bullshit is nauseating.
The left believes that everyone else is responsible for their problems. Their unemployment is someone else's fault, their socio-economic situation is someone else's fault.
If they were alone on earth, who could they blame for their problems? I am trying to illustrate personal responsibility to you. Obviously a concept you aren't familiar with
Funny, being alone on earth makes quite clear the fallacy of the absolutist statement you're making. The one human can do whatever, she'll make mistakes and should own up to them, but she can only do so much. So technically the surrounding environment can be blamed for denying her some things she wants to do. Like make friends, maybe. You can't exactly make a friend in that situation with hard work and sheer willpower. Not that any of this is relevant to anything...
Aboriginals actually have a better chance than a lot of people. I worked with a native guy in McMurray. When he went to college, all his tuition was paid for, his books and residence was also paid for. He was even given a monthly allowance to cover his living expenses. Not bad for a poor disadvantaged native kid.
Even if special interest groups are legitimate, that doesn't mean they should be on the dole. That's what charities are for.
Besides, if there are no jobs for a university grad in ON, there is no choice, is there? Move to McMurray (Or wherever is hiring) or stay unemployed.
The left constantly say "I can't, it's too hard, I need help", like you just did. Most Canadians have had it so easy, for so long they can't even differentiate between can't and don't want to. And most can, but won't or don't want to, so they don't.
Some people are "disadvantaged" enough that they REALLY can't, but not most.
I also don't blame foreigners for anything. It's Canadians that are choosing to buy Chinese lead-cadmium toys or melamine milk instead of good quality Canadian products. It's the same people whining about the rich getting richer, that are making the rich richer.
Same for immigrants. An Indian moves 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray, but an unemployed Ontarian won't? But whines that he can't find a job!
Not only are we contributing to the loss of these jobs, but we are also giving the rich more of our money.
Say you're a rich business owner. To "Stay competitive" (bullshit line they always use) you close the plant down in ON, lay off 1000 workers making $50K a year and move it to China.
You now hire 1000 Chinese @ $10K per year, and import your goods into Canada at the same price as before, except now you get to keep $40 million in wages you didn't have to pay.
So now you have $40 million in the bank + profits, and 1000 Canadian workers are on the dole.
Now, say I the consumer want to buy a widget. I see Capefeather brand widget that used to be made in Canada is now imported. I put Capefeather widget back on the shelf because I don't buy Chinese made junk.
It wouldn't take long for rich business owners to realize that a smaller margin is better than no margin at all.
Ultimately, the consumer has the power, not vice versa.
Better yet, if more people got together and started co-operatives, the money would be more evenly distributed vs owner/employee companies. So instead of spending all our money on shit we don't need, save it, start a company. But, that would require the bane of the lefties existence: taking responsibility for their own actions.
It's not up to the government to mollycoddle everyone. The less power they have, the less they can be corrupted and screw things up.
Just love these videos, what a fail attempt to connect with young voters. The polls don't represent Canadians eh? Well Nanos poll had it pretty close, predicting Harper may win a slim majority and guess what: Bam! Majority! I just love the left's reaction to the 2011 Canadian election.
Too bad the Conservatives don't know how to do it. Compared to the Liberals who turned a deficit into a 13 billion dollar surplus in four years, it's taken the Conservatives this long to... what? Rely on market regulations put in place by the Liberals to protect us from the Financial Crisis? To get us a 40 billion dollar deficit?
I'd really rather they not 'fix' our economy, for our economy's sake.
@InexplicableHat Ever hear of a guy named Pierre Trudeau? Remember the debt and deficit he left us with? Your precious Liberals are only cleaning up messes that were their's to begin with.
What does Pierre Trudeau have to do with Paul Martin's government exactly? Are you saying you're glad the conservatives turned a surplus into a deficit four times in size?
You do realize that Paul Martin balanced the books by viciously slashing public funding to health care and defense among others. He was not a miracle worker, he just stopped spending money.
Paul Martin also did not have to deal with the biggest economic crisis in 100 years either. Also, it was the Liberals and the NDP that forced the issue of stimulus and increased EI spending during the recession, which increased the deficit.
@InexplicableHat what about all the dead soldiers from IED's who had to run ground convoys to resupply FOB's because we did not have any Chinooks. What about the 2 hour prep time for the piece of shit SAR helicopter the liberals bought because they canceled the EH-101, what about the crashed sea kings... The Liberals send our soldiers to a desert war in green camouflage... is this blood worth your 13 billion...
@arbisea so, that has nothing to do with the fact conservatives cleary don't have a majority of support in Canada. A Majority government should be 50% or above of the national vote .
Also, they only call weekdays from 5-9. So, us youngsters are probably away with OUR LIVES instead of waiting by our parents landline waiting to get called by a robot.
Finally, if you convinced your parents to get a landline with caller ID like I did, your family's not going to answer any unknown numbers.
@flipperbaby47, Harper and his big corporate buddies are just using you... can't you see that? Big corps eat small and mid-sized businesses for lunch, it's called acquisition or takeover, and it seldom goes well for the little guy. As for the rest of the outraged posters that disagree with Harper's plans for OUR country, make sure you go to the polls on monday and FIRE HIM!
Someone isn't watching the polls, NDP is wayyy ahead of the Liberals now. The best way to do this, if people are truly outraged at this govt, is to vote for whichever party has the best chance to take their's out.
@gauguintop I can't stand generalizations and prejudice. Try not compartmentalising people into social groups like 16 year old girls in high school do. It's unbecoming for adults.
@fireshot22 yes you can register on election day at your polling place. Bring ID that shows address and name like driver's license, or other photo ID & utility bill or bank statement, etc. Everything is explained on the elections .ca site.
This is absolutely true! I'm so pleased that somebody is finally pointing it out. Those of us who still have "land lines" (and actually answer them) are getting polled to death! I have personally answered three robot polls during this election, and have hung up on a couple of others. Big surprise, I am an "elder" (Never a Con, tho) I am so very proud of all the young Canadians who are participating in this election, and it pleases me very much to learn that some are wise to the Con games!
They should do the same thing again for the Fall election. 'm not trying to be mean or sound materialistic or stupid. But these commercials get a lot of comments about hipsters and hippies and drug addicts or whatever the fuckelse being stupid. I do not agree but you guys should get some everyday joe's and some other people like imagine a "metal" young person or a young "person" who is a model or a business kind of guy. i dont know it would be fun and appeal to more people.
I'm a young person and I'm going to vote conservative. Harper and the conservatives are the only ones putting forward a credible foreign policy. You (liberal/NDP) want to cancel the F-35 jets? Well that would guarantee us a seat at the children's table at the UN/NATO.... No thanks... I rather Canada have a seat at the big boys table, and have influence on world security and decisions. Liberals/NDP have their blinders on and try to ignore anything outside our borders, which is completely reckless
@Lavitzzz it seems to me that the only reason to have fighter jets is to use them. we dont have the population to be a military powerhouse, whatever military power we do have will be used to further another nations goals and not our own. not to mention blowing people up is a good way to make enemies, even if our cause is "just", the people being bombed will not appreciate it. not to mention if we were attacked by any military nation we would be crushed no matter how much we spent on our military
@Rumplefrumple - I agree, it would turn into a guerrilla war in short order as the airforce would be the first to get destroyed - domination of the skies would be the first objective. In a country as large as ours it would bankrupt us to defend it with the latest and best equipment - we'd be better off with a dozen nukes and no army.
@Rumplefrumple A population isn't needed to be a military powerhouse, it's a matter of superior technology which we have and should utilize. The myopic view of separating our goals from other nations goals is completely unjustified. The world is becoming more and more interconnected, and other peoples actions can directly effect our goals. Obviously when any nation takes military action the decision isn't taken lightly, but we have a responsibility to prevent genocide and maintain world security
@Lavitzzz So by anti-totalitarianism you mean the way Harper wanted to rename the formally titled Canadian Government. The Harper Government? Or how he likes to keep fiscal measures hidden from other politicians and citizens? Yeah, you're SO for anti totalitarianism by voting conservative! The anti-genocide is what? Abortion? are you serious?
@todanp Clearly you don't understand totalitarianism when making trite remarks such as those. I don't agree with Harper on everything just as hardly anyone else agrees with a politicians views 100%, but I feel Harpers foreign policy is much more credible than the other parties and in todays world of instability foreign policy is a top rank issue. Anti-genocide is stopping places like Iraq, Libya, Bahrain, The Ivory Coast, and Syria from massacring hundreds of thousands of people....
@Lavitzzz I understand totalitarianism quite fine. I also understand the personality types that are capable of such operation. Someone who increasingly hides more government dealings with the press and almost laughs at other politicians when asked to reveal ongoing matters definitely fits the bill as totalitarian in thought and style. He could never be a full blown tyrant here and that is obvious. And also, where is Harper on the genocide in Africa? You think he cares? LOL
@todanp A tight-lipped government is no where near close to a totalitarian system or even school of thought of a totalitarian system... Many of these accusations are unsound, as the opposition parties want to break Parliament protocol to obtain information (but some of the opposition parties claims are legitimate). You are just Straw-manning his character to complete absurdity... We are stopping a genocide in Africa right now through the UN resolution 1973 in Libya.....
@Lavitzzz A tight-lipped government is the first step to overstepping bounds and corruption. It depends on whether you see his dealings as strategically patriotic or corrosive to democracy. I was not straw-manning his character if I am mentioning real events and things he has done. And the no fly over Libya is not what I meant by Africa (but yes you're right) but it's nothing courageous. It's an obligatory involvement there. Lets see him speak out against Israel and agree with the U.N. then.
@todanp I'm not a fan of the tight-lipped government, but that is besides the point as my focus is on foreign policy. At this current moment the conservatives don't have enough political capital or seats to do anything more then we are. The other parties are anti-military intervention and its a fight to be able to stay and finish our mission in Afghanistan, let alone procuring military upgrades or sending our troops to protect others in dire need. We wont have a foreign policy with the libs/ndp.
I work at a polling company... and I take offense to being called a robot... it's true the job is set up for me to be a robot, and my bosses would prefer if i shut my brain off... but I'm still fighting for my humanity... also.. the rest of the add rings true. surveys are basically bullshit.
Canada is a socialist country, we have socialized prisons, socialized education, socialized roads, socialized health care, socialized highways, heck even our side walks are socialized. We have socialized parks, socialized police force, a socialized court system, we have socialized retirement, Canada is socialist. I guess that is why socialists are everywhere, but if you think Canadians are scum that is your problem because we (Canadians) are socialists and we are here to stay.
Who do these Main Street- Neo-hippie- rock show attending- 10 speed bicycle riding- skinny jeans wearing- no hair combing-Pulp Fiction book browsing-Waldorf attending-Critical Mass-420 rally unwashed mob think they are ? Go back to Commercial Drive and read the Epoch times at the Red Burrito and leave us NWO soldiers to control things !
Seriously, look around at the provinces that have elected the NDP. Look at the way they've destroyed the economies of those provinces. Ontario is STILL recovering from the Rae Days. Wake up people! we don't need 70 billion worth of new spending when we are just getting out of a recession!!!!
@hanksnow82 Vote conservative on may 2nd if you want the high tax dollars to go to absolutely nothing. But they still take it from you :) and what they take stays the same..
@boyswillbeb0ys The Conservatives are the only ones that have ever lowered my taxes and helped my small business . Me and my 3 employees are one of those corporations that Jack Layton hates and wants to tax the shit out of . If Harper wins i can probally hire one more person . If the NDP/ Liberals get in i will probally lay off two people .
@hanksnow82 Agreed. As a business owner for the last 21 years I can tell you with all certainty that there's only 1 choice for anybody that cares about small and big business in Canada. The Liberals have their filthy hands in our pockets at every turn and make business exponentially more difficult to conduct on so many levels. If we want to improve our country economically we need a PC gov't. For the first time in years, business is good and looking bright under Harper.PC majority would be great
@flipperbaby47 First off, there is a huge difference between the former federal PC party and Stephen Harper's Conservative party. Secondly, if you are so pro-Harper, why do you have a liberal anti-Harper ad playing as your default video on your YouTube channel? Political poe?
@jmbtake6 You can doooo eeeeet! Besides if you vote for the Harper Cons, you are actually voting for the Reform Party, not the Progressive Conservatives of days gone by. The Conservative Party is full of right-wing Evangelical neo-cons - think of it as voting for George Bush -didn't we laugh at the U.S. for electing him twice? Vote strategically!
Vote SMART, which means vote smart in your riding. Just because the NDP is leading the Libs nationally doesn't mean they stand a chance in your riding, and just because the Libs are the "traditional ruling party" doesn't mean they have a chance in your riding. Vote smart against Stephen Harper.
Ugliest people I have ever seen. What does this have to do with Harper anyways? COME ON FUCKERS. YOUTH ARE GULLIBLE AS FUCK AND THIS BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA IS LEADING THEM ONNNNNNNNNNNN AAAAAAAHHHHHH. Also this video is filled with ugly fucks and if Jack Layton makes it to 24 Sussex it is unlikely he will survive a term. UGLY PEOPLE UGLY PEOPLE UGLY PEOPLE HARPER IS GORGEOUS jack layton = great speaker but ugly fuckin' dude. dont be a victim of his lies.
Although funny, not really true. Many of the pollsters use the internet now and they all make adjustments. I am a little suspicious of them releasing this as the NDP are passing the Liberals, which actually is what youth support. Political climate change deniers?
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@kickedinthetaco These people want to vote NDP, you really can't expect any semblance of rationality or logical thinking. Now let's go to their website and talk about how scary and mean harper is and make baseless claims about the conservative government while not understanding, to any degree at all, just what the ramifications of the budget of our party is. Who cares about that when he's twittering and facebooking about hope and change, anyway?
@Pinworm4 Just what do you consider "baseless claims" about the Conservatives? I ask, because I know many Harper fans who insist that the contempt ruling was baseless, that they never forged documents (ahem, Bev Oda), that they had nothing to do with G20 (which was a federal operation), that they did not try to shut down an advance poll when just hours before they boasted about it on Facebook, etc.
And we won't even get into how Harper turned a surplus into a deficit, etc.
@Pinworm4 haha its funny you should say that. after the national debate i went to the NDP website because I thought they might be worth a look at this time, and because of the social media buzz. However I was disappointed to find their platform just looks incomplete compared to the others. It makes me feel like they wouldn't be prepared to govern if they were given the opportunity
A polling robot called my house last night. It asked which party I would vote for on May 2nd, I hit #2 as my answer, it waited, then asked the question again. I hit #2 again. It asked the question again. I hung up. WTF.
Voting for Saruman (aka Ignatieff) is never a good idea. It was obvious that he was going to hemorrhage seats from the time he spoke at the press conference following the ruling that Harper was in contempt of parliament.
Young voters = the worst type of voters
Bomber0907 1 week ago
Nothing more to say except: I don't deal in absolutes. Absolute statements invariably expose severe ignorance and an inability to appreciate the far, far-reaching consequences of acting on them. I could honestly interpret some of this stuff to mean we shouldn't have a military or public health care or scientific research funding. All because someone has a specific concept of what someone deserves. There is clearly nothing more that can be said on either side.
capefeather 1 month ago
I'm glad that young people don't vote. I thought socialism was the way when I was younger...
It wasn't until I moved to Alberta, started making over $100k a year by working 60 hours a week did I realize, "Why should I pay for some slacker that doesn't want to work, when I'm out in the middle of nowhere, away from my family and friends busting my hump???"
For you NDP fanboys: Get a real job and you'll understand.
For you Liberal fanboys: I don't even know where to start! LOL
EruditeCanadian 3 months ago 2
@EruditeCanadian Because sometimes they're not slackers. If your opinion is based on putting someone down, I suggest you rethink it.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Think about it. How many Conservative special interest groups are there on the dole? Compare that to Left wing special interest groups; gay groups, feminist groups, women's groups, aboriginal groups, the list goes on and on and on forever! All of them screaming for handouts!
Conservative = I don't need help, I'll do it myself
Left wing = I can't do it! I need help! I need government funding! We need to tax Conservatives more because it isn't fair they are successful! (*Sob*)
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian nice non sequitur
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
No non sequitur at all. Most of the special interest groups I mentioned are slackers, as in they want to rely on government handouts instead of working for a living.
Same for my Leftie diatribe. Instead of doing what Conservatives do, they whine about it and how the government should look after them, or that rich people that work(ed) hard for their money are responsible for their(lefties) lack of success, instead of their lack of ambition or work ethic etc.
Slackers and whiners
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian I'm sure the Jersey Shore cast and most of the auto companies have their money now because of their ambition and work ethic, right? Surely not anything like inheritance or bailout money.
Most people's problem with the rich-vs-poor thing is not that there are rich people, but that the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger. Are you telling me that people work harder now than they did decades ago?
Repeating what you say isn't going to convince anyone.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Good point about the entertainment industry. I agree totally our system of who makes what is probably 180 degrees of what it should be. Ultimately, however, it is up to you and me who makes what.
If nobody watched Jersey Shore, the moronic cast would be back working at McDonalds, where they belong. BUT, enough of us DO watch it for the network to justify paying them what they make. It's that simple. No ratings, no jobs, no money.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
And about the gap between rich and poor getting wider; that too for the most part is your and my doing as consumers. High paying manufacturing jobs have been leaving Canada for decades. Why? Because rich people close factories and more them to China? Not really.
Because "WE" consumers want cheaper and cheaper goods, and don't care where we get them from. If no one bought Asian made textiles/plastic/toys etc, domestic companies would fill the demand.
Simple as that.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian So are you going to attribute success to hard work or to market forces? You can't take a hard line on one without ignoring the other. Are people being screwed over or are they not? Do people "deserve" what they get or do they not? And on what basis?
Fiscal conservatism is fine and great but some people just make it sound like there should be no taxes/government at all, other than to enforce some vague notion of morality.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Hard work is essential in order for most of us to succeed. It isn't up to the government to hold our hand and make sure we succeed "just because". No one is entitled to a job.
Regarding lost jobs/trade deficits/wage gap etc, we all deserve to get screwed, because we are all part of the problem. Every time you or I buy a good that is made in China/India/Asian we are contributing to the loss of "wealth generating" manufacturing jobs. We are also shipping wealth out of the country
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
lol, no one here has asserted any of the things you've criticized. You're just repeating your same assumptions over and over. You're just stating that entire groups of people are slackers, based on your own life. Do you have any idea how backwards that sounds? And your response is to blame the foreigners? Protectionism seems pretty left-wing to me...
Did you know that less than a century ago, women weren't considered people, and Asians were arbitrarily sent to prison camps?
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
The left constantly blame everything and everybody else for they way things are, when really they are the problem. But, instead of changing things, they whine about how the government needs to mollycoddle them.
I'm not protectionist at all. Protectionism implies government intervention like tariffs. I promote Canadian's giving a shit about their fellow Canadians and buying from their neighbour instead of from China.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian
I also don't blame foreigners for anything. It's Canadians that are choosing to buy Chinese lead-cadmium toys or melamine milk instead of good quality Canadian products. It's the same people whining about the rich getting richer, that are making the rich richer.
Same for immigrants. An Indian moves 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray, but an unemployed Ontarian won't? But whines that he can't find a job!
I'd take the Indian over the whiney bitch!
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
It's equivalent, you're expecting the consumer to do what the government would usually force to happen by imposing a tariff. You're just cherrypicking examples to claim that consumers can just resist market forces.
There is a cost to entering any job market and *gasp* not everybody can incur it. For a fresh university graduate, moving 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray might be a fatal risk. And that's not even getting into people disadvantaged by a host of other things.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
It's not equivalent at all. The left claims that the government needs to do this and do that, tax these people more, give those people more handouts, when really the government shouldn't be involved at all. One thing governments are good at is screwing things up, Liberal or Conservative.
I left Ontario for Ft. McMurray with a couple hundred bucks and maxed credit cards. Within 2 years I was making 4X more than I did in ON. A risk worth taking.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
Don't you tire of repeating the same thing?
A success does not alone make a risk worth taking. Many factors go into this. Maybe you were lucky. This is basic statistics.
There are certain groups of people (e.g. Aboriginals) who can't crawl out of their situations. You don't know why, so you assume they're slackers. I'll remind you that that is my beef with what you're saying. Maybe not all of these interest groups are legitimate, but many are. Reality is complicated.
capefeather 1 month ago
"Some people are "disadvantaged" enough that they REALLY can't, but not most."
Yeah sure, try going back to that when you've specifically pointed out women/gay/aboriginal groups. Discrimination against these people is real. You can't seriously tell me that no one considers the fact that a woman might go on paid maternal leave. You're not any of these people. How can you claim to relate to them, never mind outright judge them?
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
I don't judge them, I just don't see how they are my problem. I work hard for my family. I moved away from my parents and friends to better my situation for my family. I am responsible for them, not responsible for the people you mentioned. They are responsible for themselves.
Why should I pay for them? That's what I don't like about the left. They want to reward failure and punish success.
Go to Syncrude's website. They are always looking for women and aboriginal employees.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
"the left wants to take my money"
"I work hard"
"I call people slackers but I'm not judging them"
Wouldn't it be better if you just copy-pasted instead of trying to come up with another way to say the same thing?
Also did you seriously just cite one example to refute me?
Your statement about the Aboriginal is simply mind-blowing. There's nothing I can say to you now until you have any appreciation for the underlying social issues. Until then you can delude yourself with your anecdotes.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Ok, sure, one example isn't much, but the fact remains. They aren't my problem. Natives, gays, womens rights groups, feminists etc.
Not my problem. Why should I and all my fellow hard working Conservatives have to pay for other peoples problems? Is it your problem that I have a gambling problem or eat too much? Is it my problem that you can't keep a job or you smoke too much?
No to either. Our problems are our own and it is up to us to solve them. Not the government's
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
Is it my problem that a child can't go to school? Is it my problem that people are sick with various diseases and funded research has to be done to save them? Is it my problem that most people need grants to afford college? Is it my problem that there are dictatorships in other places? Is it my problem that women are abused? Is it my problem that people are polluting the earth and possibly driving key organisms to extinction?
Personally, I'd rather not subscribe to absolutes.
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Ultimately, no, none of those are your problem. Maybe with the exception of pollution, as it really does affect everyone.
Women being abused need to help themselves and leave their situation. Hard, yes. Impossible, no.
Education isn't really a special interest, and health care isn't really either. Both benefit all of society.
Special interest implies an interest that does not relate to the majority, but a small minority.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian Women and gays are small minorities?
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Gays are a small minority. Womens groups don't really represent all women. In reality, they just like to whine about how hard they have it, while milking as much money out of the taxpayers as possible.
Take battered women's organizations for example: Half the population is women. Maybe half of women are married. Let's say 10% of married women get abused. So 35mil/2/2/10=875,000. That's 2.5% of the population. I would say that's special interest
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@EruditeCanadian lol k
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
The other thing the left doesn't seem to understand is that the government doesn't have infinite resources. Conservatives tend to put priorities on things with tangible benefits, as the money they spend comes from tangible work.
Every dollar spent on health care or education comes back to the government and society as increased GDP or prolonged working career etc.
Making sure that gays have high self esteem, or that they can get married legally has virtually no tangible benefits.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
I try to come up with different way of phrasing my argument because you dont seem to understand what I'm saying. Even if people are legitimately disadvantaged, that doesn't mean I should have to pay for them.
If you were the last person on earth, who would be responsible for you eating or having shelter?
The left's "POOR ME, POOR ME" bullshit is nauseating.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
How is that relevant to anything... (Besides, you clearly don't understand what I'm saying, either.)
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
The left believes that everyone else is responsible for their problems. Their unemployment is someone else's fault, their socio-economic situation is someone else's fault.
If they were alone on earth, who could they blame for their problems? I am trying to illustrate personal responsibility to you. Obviously a concept you aren't familiar with
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
Funny, being alone on earth makes quite clear the fallacy of the absolutist statement you're making. The one human can do whatever, she'll make mistakes and should own up to them, but she can only do so much. So technically the surrounding environment can be blamed for denying her some things she wants to do. Like make friends, maybe. You can't exactly make a friend in that situation with hard work and sheer willpower. Not that any of this is relevant to anything...
capefeather 1 month ago
@capefeather
Aboriginals actually have a better chance than a lot of people. I worked with a native guy in McMurray. When he went to college, all his tuition was paid for, his books and residence was also paid for. He was even given a monthly allowance to cover his living expenses. Not bad for a poor disadvantaged native kid.
Even if special interest groups are legitimate, that doesn't mean they should be on the dole. That's what charities are for.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
Besides, if there are no jobs for a university grad in ON, there is no choice, is there? Move to McMurray (Or wherever is hiring) or stay unemployed.
The left constantly say "I can't, it's too hard, I need help", like you just did. Most Canadians have had it so easy, for so long they can't even differentiate between can't and don't want to. And most can, but won't or don't want to, so they don't.
Some people are "disadvantaged" enough that they REALLY can't, but not most.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
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@capefeather
I also don't blame foreigners for anything. It's Canadians that are choosing to buy Chinese lead-cadmium toys or melamine milk instead of good quality Canadian products. It's the same people whining about the rich getting richer, that are making the rich richer.
Same for immigrants. An Indian moves 10,000kms for a good job in Fort McMurray, but an unemployed Ontarian won't? But whines that he can't find a job!
I'd take the Indian over the whiney bitch!
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
Not only are we contributing to the loss of these jobs, but we are also giving the rich more of our money.
Say you're a rich business owner. To "Stay competitive" (bullshit line they always use) you close the plant down in ON, lay off 1000 workers making $50K a year and move it to China.
You now hire 1000 Chinese @ $10K per year, and import your goods into Canada at the same price as before, except now you get to keep $40 million in wages you didn't have to pay.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
So now you have $40 million in the bank + profits, and 1000 Canadian workers are on the dole.
Now, say I the consumer want to buy a widget. I see Capefeather brand widget that used to be made in Canada is now imported. I put Capefeather widget back on the shelf because I don't buy Chinese made junk.
It wouldn't take long for rich business owners to realize that a smaller margin is better than no margin at all.
Ultimately, the consumer has the power, not vice versa.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
@capefeather
Better yet, if more people got together and started co-operatives, the money would be more evenly distributed vs owner/employee companies. So instead of spending all our money on shit we don't need, save it, start a company. But, that would require the bane of the lefties existence: taking responsibility for their own actions.
It's not up to the government to mollycoddle everyone. The less power they have, the less they can be corrupted and screw things up.
EruditeCanadian 1 month ago
prove to yourself harper is a conniving lyer just Google copssaylegalizedrugs
oxjhan9 5 months ago
Just love these videos, what a fail attempt to connect with young voters. The polls don't represent Canadians eh? Well Nanos poll had it pretty close, predicting Harper may win a slim majority and guess what: Bam! Majority! I just love the left's reaction to the 2011 Canadian election.
NodeRanvier 8 months ago
Please. Conservatives. Fix the economy so these people can afford soap and shampoo!
arbisea 9 months ago 2
@arbisea
Too bad the Conservatives don't know how to do it. Compared to the Liberals who turned a deficit into a 13 billion dollar surplus in four years, it's taken the Conservatives this long to... what? Rely on market regulations put in place by the Liberals to protect us from the Financial Crisis? To get us a 40 billion dollar deficit?
I'd really rather they not 'fix' our economy, for our economy's sake.
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arbisea 9 months ago
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@InexplicableHat Ever hear of a guy named Pierre Trudeau? Remember the debt and deficit he left us with? Your precious Liberals are only cleaning up messes that were their's to begin with.
You'll excuse me if I don't applaud them.
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arbisea 9 months ago
@arbisea
What is with your posting 4 times in a row?
What does Pierre Trudeau have to do with Paul Martin's government exactly? Are you saying you're glad the conservatives turned a surplus into a deficit four times in size?
InexplicableHat 9 months ago
@InexplicableHat
You do realize that Paul Martin balanced the books by viciously slashing public funding to health care and defense among others. He was not a miracle worker, he just stopped spending money.
Paul Martin also did not have to deal with the biggest economic crisis in 100 years either. Also, it was the Liberals and the NDP that forced the issue of stimulus and increased EI spending during the recession, which increased the deficit.
You can't play both sides of the fence.
EruditeCanadian 3 months ago
@InexplicableHat what about all the dead soldiers from IED's who had to run ground convoys to resupply FOB's because we did not have any Chinooks. What about the 2 hour prep time for the piece of shit SAR helicopter the liberals bought because they canceled the EH-101, what about the crashed sea kings... The Liberals send our soldiers to a desert war in green camouflage... is this blood worth your 13 billion...
Baseshocks 2 months ago
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Grits got spanked!
Go cry into your dirty Star Wars pajamas, and move out of your parent's basement, you hippies!
arbisea 9 months ago
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arbisea 9 months ago
CANADA HAS FUCKING SPOKEN, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Huskyjooser 9 months ago
@Huskyjooser great I can't wait for four more years of that
hayleybowl 9 months ago
I did vote.Conservative. Sayonara Losers!
keikoojima 9 months ago
Suck it. Conservative win. Again.
flipperbaby47 10 months ago
@flipperbaby47 with only 39.9% of the national vote.
hayleybowl 9 months ago
@hayleybowl Only 39.9% ...How much did the Liberals get?
18.91% ...Yeah thought so.
arbisea 9 months ago
@arbisea so, that has nothing to do with the fact conservatives cleary don't have a majority of support in Canada. A Majority government should be 50% or above of the national vote .
hayleybowl 9 months ago
@hayleybowl ...Says who? Last I heard it only required 155 seats to form a majority government.
I'm curious if you had the same sort of outburst when Chretien's razor-thin Liberal majority won in 1997...hmmm?
arbisea 9 months ago
If you LUB this land. Vote with a CHECKMARK!
TheInsultKing 10 months ago
I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!!
TheInsultKing 10 months ago
IS A TELEPHONE SOMETHING LIKE TEXTING???
TheInsultKing 10 months ago
WHAT THE FUCK IS A TELEPHONE????
TheInsultKing 10 months ago
A&W guy looks so fucked up. Put a little crack in his Root Beer. That's who I want to make a MAMA BURGER! HAHAHAHA A&W
TheInsultKing 10 months ago
About those robot calls, you can always get your number listed and you too can receive thoseawesome calls. . .
mine was actually a human this year. . .
enorabv 10 months ago
Just voted!
Against harper, for obvious reasons!
Can, someone explain to me what this video means?
I'm soo confused.
cowchin 10 months ago
That is a damn good Cheryl Merkowski, HONAYE!
analdora 10 months ago
Cheryl Merkowski Impersonator !!!!
stripclubdeej 10 months ago
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good times at 0:42
Katherine0a0 10 months ago
good times at 0:42 :P
Katherine0a0 10 months ago
I'm a surfer riding a big Orange Wave.
Dan5482 10 months ago
Also, they only call weekdays from 5-9. So, us youngsters are probably away with OUR LIVES instead of waiting by our parents landline waiting to get called by a robot.
Finally, if you convinced your parents to get a landline with caller ID like I did, your family's not going to answer any unknown numbers.
dra900nka1n 10 months ago
@flipperbaby47, Harper and his big corporate buddies are just using you... can't you see that? Big corps eat small and mid-sized businesses for lunch, it's called acquisition or takeover, and it seldom goes well for the little guy. As for the rest of the outraged posters that disagree with Harper's plans for OUR country, make sure you go to the polls on monday and FIRE HIM!
Xelection2 10 months ago 2
Someone isn't watching the polls, NDP is wayyy ahead of the Liberals now. The best way to do this, if people are truly outraged at this govt, is to vote for whichever party has the best chance to take their's out.
Xelection2 10 months ago
NDP
NDP
NDP
NDP
If you dont vote NDP you don't know Jack (Layton). This time it will be NDP. Better Layton than never.
poyani 10 months ago 2
i really can't take hipsters seriously. you guys in this vid need to get a job.
gauguintop 10 months ago
@gauguintop I can't stand generalizations and prejudice. Try not compartmentalizing into social groups like 16 year olds do in high school.
todanp 10 months ago
@gauguintop I can't stand generalizations and prejudice. Try not compartmentalising people into social groups like 16 year old girls in high school do. It's unbecoming for adults.
todanp 10 months ago
omggggg hipsters are so cool!
wait, no they aren't.
JustChillzz 10 months ago
I lub this land :)
KerraSeayWhat 10 months ago
After seeing these ads, it's a no-brainer, vote PC. How can you throw in with these D-Bags?
flipperbaby47 10 months ago
that is interesting.
if the youth vote, and if the youth have not been properly represented in the polls than manday's result maybe even more surprising.
AA
Za3rour 10 months ago
Hi I'm 18 and canadian citizen
Ok so yo, I just recently got interested in this whole election thingy
So I got one question,
Is it possible for me to register ON ELECTION DAY?
(because you were supposed to register before april 26. >_<
fireshot22 10 months ago
@fireshot22 yes you can register on election day at your polling place. Bring ID that shows address and name like driver's license, or other photo ID & utility bill or bank statement, etc. Everything is explained on the elections .ca site.
caramaga 10 months ago
Lets teach those Fascists a lesson they will not soon forget. Monday vote NPD
BarelyScientist 10 months ago 2
This is absolutely true! I'm so pleased that somebody is finally pointing it out. Those of us who still have "land lines" (and actually answer them) are getting polled to death! I have personally answered three robot polls during this election, and have hung up on a couple of others. Big surprise, I am an "elder" (Never a Con, tho) I am so very proud of all the young Canadians who are participating in this election, and it pleases me very much to learn that some are wise to the Con games!
LeelaLu7 10 months ago
They should do the same thing again for the Fall election. 'm not trying to be mean or sound materialistic or stupid. But these commercials get a lot of comments about hipsters and hippies and drug addicts or whatever the fuckelse being stupid. I do not agree but you guys should get some everyday joe's and some other people like imagine a "metal" young person or a young "person" who is a model or a business kind of guy. i dont know it would be fun and appeal to more people.
boyswillbeb0ys 10 months ago
I'm a young person and I'm going to vote conservative. Harper and the conservatives are the only ones putting forward a credible foreign policy. You (liberal/NDP) want to cancel the F-35 jets? Well that would guarantee us a seat at the children's table at the UN/NATO.... No thanks... I rather Canada have a seat at the big boys table, and have influence on world security and decisions. Liberals/NDP have their blinders on and try to ignore anything outside our borders, which is completely reckless
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz it seems to me that the only reason to have fighter jets is to use them. we dont have the population to be a military powerhouse, whatever military power we do have will be used to further another nations goals and not our own. not to mention blowing people up is a good way to make enemies, even if our cause is "just", the people being bombed will not appreciate it. not to mention if we were attacked by any military nation we would be crushed no matter how much we spent on our military
Rumplefrumple 10 months ago
@Rumplefrumple - I agree, it would turn into a guerrilla war in short order as the airforce would be the first to get destroyed - domination of the skies would be the first objective. In a country as large as ours it would bankrupt us to defend it with the latest and best equipment - we'd be better off with a dozen nukes and no army.
leppy111 10 months ago
@Rumplefrumple A population isn't needed to be a military powerhouse, it's a matter of superior technology which we have and should utilize. The myopic view of separating our goals from other nations goals is completely unjustified. The world is becoming more and more interconnected, and other peoples actions can directly effect our goals. Obviously when any nation takes military action the decision isn't taken lightly, but we have a responsibility to prevent genocide and maintain world security
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz oh crap, you want to police the world... and you want me to pay for it.
Rumplefrumple 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz Well put.
flipperbaby47 9 months ago
@Lavitzzz
So you're for socially conservative measures. Gotchya.
todanp 10 months ago
@todanp No, I'm for anti-totalitarian and anti-genocide measures.
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz So by anti-totalitarianism you mean the way Harper wanted to rename the formally titled Canadian Government. The Harper Government? Or how he likes to keep fiscal measures hidden from other politicians and citizens? Yeah, you're SO for anti totalitarianism by voting conservative! The anti-genocide is what? Abortion? are you serious?
todanp 10 months ago
@todanp Clearly you don't understand totalitarianism when making trite remarks such as those. I don't agree with Harper on everything just as hardly anyone else agrees with a politicians views 100%, but I feel Harpers foreign policy is much more credible than the other parties and in todays world of instability foreign policy is a top rank issue. Anti-genocide is stopping places like Iraq, Libya, Bahrain, The Ivory Coast, and Syria from massacring hundreds of thousands of people....
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz I understand totalitarianism quite fine. I also understand the personality types that are capable of such operation. Someone who increasingly hides more government dealings with the press and almost laughs at other politicians when asked to reveal ongoing matters definitely fits the bill as totalitarian in thought and style. He could never be a full blown tyrant here and that is obvious. And also, where is Harper on the genocide in Africa? You think he cares? LOL
todanp 10 months ago
@todanp A tight-lipped government is no where near close to a totalitarian system or even school of thought of a totalitarian system... Many of these accusations are unsound, as the opposition parties want to break Parliament protocol to obtain information (but some of the opposition parties claims are legitimate). You are just Straw-manning his character to complete absurdity... We are stopping a genocide in Africa right now through the UN resolution 1973 in Libya.....
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
@Lavitzzz A tight-lipped government is the first step to overstepping bounds and corruption. It depends on whether you see his dealings as strategically patriotic or corrosive to democracy. I was not straw-manning his character if I am mentioning real events and things he has done. And the no fly over Libya is not what I meant by Africa (but yes you're right) but it's nothing courageous. It's an obligatory involvement there. Lets see him speak out against Israel and agree with the U.N. then.
todanp 10 months ago
@todanp I'm not a fan of the tight-lipped government, but that is besides the point as my focus is on foreign policy. At this current moment the conservatives don't have enough political capital or seats to do anything more then we are. The other parties are anti-military intervention and its a fight to be able to stay and finish our mission in Afghanistan, let alone procuring military upgrades or sending our troops to protect others in dire need. We wont have a foreign policy with the libs/ndp.
Lavitzzz 10 months ago
the NDP will destroy Canada
TheBelligerentPanda 10 months ago
I work at a polling company... and I take offense to being called a robot... it's true the job is set up for me to be a robot, and my bosses would prefer if i shut my brain off... but I'm still fighting for my humanity... also.. the rest of the add rings true. surveys are basically bullshit.
morganseathomson 10 months ago 2
get busy voting, or get busy sleeping with the sleepers.
TheGlutes 10 months ago
Socialist scum everywhere
wallillaw 10 months ago
@wallillaw
Canada is a socialist country, we have socialized prisons, socialized education, socialized roads, socialized health care, socialized highways, heck even our side walks are socialized. We have socialized parks, socialized police force, a socialized court system, we have socialized retirement, Canada is socialist. I guess that is why socialists are everywhere, but if you think Canadians are scum that is your problem because we (Canadians) are socialists and we are here to stay.
whiskers123 10 months ago
@whiskers123 So you little prick think you can speak for over 30 million people? Most Canadians I know would love to kick your socialist ass.
wallillaw 10 months ago
@wallillaw
Just stating the facts. Are you willing to dispute anything I said or just use threats of violence?
whiskers123 9 months ago
Who do these Main Street- Neo-hippie- rock show attending- 10 speed bicycle riding- skinny jeans wearing- no hair combing-Pulp Fiction book browsing-Waldorf attending-Critical Mass-420 rally unwashed mob think they are ? Go back to Commercial Drive and read the Epoch times at the Red Burrito and leave us NWO soldiers to control things !
ZaggaPooNagi 10 months ago
@ZaggaPooNagi I think you'd be more likely to find them riding fixed-gear bikes (or fixies) than the 10-speed variety.
facetiousCA 10 months ago
Seriously, look around at the provinces that have elected the NDP. Look at the way they've destroyed the economies of those provinces. Ontario is STILL recovering from the Rae Days. Wake up people! we don't need 70 billion worth of new spending when we are just getting out of a recession!!!!
JustChillzz 10 months ago
Vote Conservative on May 2 because our taxes are high enough already .
hanksnow82 10 months ago
@hanksnow82 Vote conservative on may 2nd if you want the high tax dollars to go to absolutely nothing. But they still take it from you :) and what they take stays the same..
boyswillbeb0ys 10 months ago
@boyswillbeb0ys The Conservatives are the only ones that have ever lowered my taxes and helped my small business . Me and my 3 employees are one of those corporations that Jack Layton hates and wants to tax the shit out of . If Harper wins i can probally hire one more person . If the NDP/ Liberals get in i will probally lay off two people .
hanksnow82 10 months ago
@hanksnow82 Agreed. As a business owner for the last 21 years I can tell you with all certainty that there's only 1 choice for anybody that cares about small and big business in Canada. The Liberals have their filthy hands in our pockets at every turn and make business exponentially more difficult to conduct on so many levels. If we want to improve our country economically we need a PC gov't. For the first time in years, business is good and looking bright under Harper.PC majority would be great
flipperbaby47 10 months ago
@flipperbaby47 First off, there is a huge difference between the former federal PC party and Stephen Harper's Conservative party. Secondly, if you are so pro-Harper, why do you have a liberal anti-Harper ad playing as your default video on your YouTube channel? Political poe?
syggelekokIe 10 months ago
Fuck the Poles. Polish people are the worst.
FrigidDeath 10 months ago
VOTE NDP FOR FUCK SAKES
ibreakkidslegs 10 months ago
I wish I was hipster enough to not vote Conservative.
jmbtake6 10 months ago
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JonathanMiddleton 10 months ago
@jmbtake6 I wish you were too. Maybe you can work on that.
JonathanMiddleton 10 months ago
@jmbtake6 You can doooo eeeeet! Besides if you vote for the Harper Cons, you are actually voting for the Reform Party, not the Progressive Conservatives of days gone by. The Conservative Party is full of right-wing Evangelical neo-cons - think of it as voting for George Bush -didn't we laugh at the U.S. for electing him twice? Vote strategically!
TheAlektera 10 months ago
I am going to slam my vote in the ballot box like it was a dunk in NBA JAM
"from downtown! Booooooom-shakalala"
InuvikPhil 10 months ago 4
Vote SMART, which means vote smart in your riding. Just because the NDP is leading the Libs nationally doesn't mean they stand a chance in your riding, and just because the Libs are the "traditional ruling party" doesn't mean they have a chance in your riding. Vote smart against Stephen Harper.
Oh, and vote for E.May in her riding.
LordMcgyvr 10 months ago 9
3 people are conservative robot spies.
TheSTStudios 10 months ago 4
I'M SO FUCKING PUMPED TO VOTE ON MONDAY! WHO'S WITH ME!!!
N1ntenOwned 10 months ago 68
Nice !
BuraGould 10 months ago
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Ugliest people I have ever seen. What does this have to do with Harper anyways? COME ON FUCKERS. YOUTH ARE GULLIBLE AS FUCK AND THIS BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA IS LEADING THEM ONNNNNNNNNNNN AAAAAAAHHHHHH. Also this video is filled with ugly fucks and if Jack Layton makes it to 24 Sussex it is unlikely he will survive a term. UGLY PEOPLE UGLY PEOPLE UGLY PEOPLE HARPER IS GORGEOUS jack layton = great speaker but ugly fuckin' dude. dont be a victim of his lies.
hackindarts 10 months ago
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hackindarts 10 months ago
(putting on my best Steve Carrell)
I LOVE LAND
timecrash2001 10 months ago 3
Although funny, not really true. Many of the pollsters use the internet now and they all make adjustments. I am a little suspicious of them releasing this as the NDP are passing the Liberals, which actually is what youth support. Political climate change deniers?
kickedinthetaco 10 months ago
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@kickedinthetaco These people want to vote NDP, you really can't expect any semblance of rationality or logical thinking. Now let's go to their website and talk about how scary and mean harper is and make baseless claims about the conservative government while not understanding, to any degree at all, just what the ramifications of the budget of our party is. Who cares about that when he's twittering and facebooking about hope and change, anyway?
Pinworm4 10 months ago
@Pinworm4 Just what do you consider "baseless claims" about the Conservatives? I ask, because I know many Harper fans who insist that the contempt ruling was baseless, that they never forged documents (ahem, Bev Oda), that they had nothing to do with G20 (which was a federal operation), that they did not try to shut down an advance poll when just hours before they boasted about it on Facebook, etc.
And we won't even get into how Harper turned a surplus into a deficit, etc.
BoredomCorner 10 months ago 2
@Pinworm4 haha its funny you should say that. after the national debate i went to the NDP website because I thought they might be worth a look at this time, and because of the social media buzz. However I was disappointed to find their platform just looks incomplete compared to the others. It makes me feel like they wouldn't be prepared to govern if they were given the opportunity
nurple12 10 months ago
Excellent
i live in a cave and have no phone :)
ThisBoyTV 10 months ago
Imma vote alright!
laurierchick11 10 months ago
Best one yet, sharing with all my friends!
camaro406ss 10 months ago
A polling robot called my house last night. It asked which party I would vote for on May 2nd, I hit #2 as my answer, it waited, then asked the question again. I hit #2 again. It asked the question again. I hung up. WTF.
naturalhero 10 months ago
Thumbs up for the robot voice.
illtrax 10 months ago 6
"Please say the name of the party that you intend to vote for."
"NDP."
"I heard 'The Conservative Party'. Is this correct?"
"No."
"Thank you. Your vote for 'The Conservative Party' has been recorded."
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facetiousCA 10 months ago 110
@facetiousCA lol u might as well vote conservative... voting ndp is just vote splitting the liberals
vkvladman 10 months ago
@vkvladman lulz. I guess they showed you.
Voting for Saruman (aka Ignatieff) is never a good idea. It was obvious that he was going to hemorrhage seats from the time he spoke at the press conference following the ruling that Harper was in contempt of parliament.
facetiousCA 10 months ago
i wish i could talk like a robot.
electricunt 10 months ago 12