Emperors - Augustus 1-5

[ummagumma00]

Cicero was NOT calling Marc Antony a smashing chap;)

[patient0Studios]

I'm annoyed with the intro and I'm 2 minutes in... "They were tired of living under the rule of one man and preferred to be ruled by the elected. Clearly this woman narrating has no fucking idea about the Roman extraordinary magistrates or the fact that the Senate was a corrupt, unstable oligarchy...

[berflaberab2]

augustus was a bit of a freud though, his glorious victories of his early career were all done by agrippa and other generals while he lay in his tent. everyone shouldnt base their opinions purely on the res gestae

[rigstula]

Without doubt one of the greatest and most influential figures in world history. The legacy of his empire can still be seen today.

[ElroyTheTroll]

Nigger stole my bike :(

[HistoryLover1550]

"You boy who owe everything to a name" -Mark Antony.

[HistoryLover1550]

The real Atia was nothing like Polly Walker's character in HBO's 'Rome'

[imperatorcaesar100]

@HistoryLover1550 yes Clodia a wife of Marcus Antonius was really the inspiration to the character of Atia of the Julian family in HBO's Rome.

[HistoryLover1550]

@imperatorcaesar100 That's right!

[HistoryLover1550]

His wife Livia was an ambitious, calculating, wicked bitch.

[HistoryLover1550]

The best of all the Julio-Claudian dynasty!

[Napoleontas]

The first emperor was also the greatest, and see how the accusation of being a gay was since antiquity the greatest and most common insult against an opponent 

[imperatorcaesar100]

@Napoleontas Yes though Pedophila was accepted, and encouraged by the Greeks, and Romans as the idea was a position of dominance. such as a man was considered superior to a woman, or a teenage boy.

[Napoleontas]

@imperatorcaesar100 That is a common misconception, the Greeks never encouraged Pedophilia! Thats ludicrous, there are laws forbidding it, and also it was a common accusation for the distraction of a political opponent, this belief most commonly comes from persons who never read anything concerning ancient Greece they have only watched modern documentaries

[Napoleontas]

A great man

[PeterBluth]

Cornelius sounds like the kind of guy you want on your side.

[deltapunk21]

new world fascist needs to f off

[badsign1980]

i prefer caligula was best emperor and stand up comedy man over augustus

[HHHdahman]

who was the one who made childern have sex with each other?

[DukeofColumbia]

@HHHdahman Tiberius

[wtuntawiroon]

Greatest Ceasar ever

[HoundofOdin]

Caesar and Augustus were Rome's greatest rulers.

[RuntOfTheBatch]

@HoundofOdin

No Augustus and Trajian were the greatest rulers of Rome

[HoundofOdin]

Caesar, Augustus, and Trajan.

[andrinho]

@HoundofOdin If by Caesar you mean Gaius Julius Ceasar, Augustus uncle then no, he was never an emperor (Rex), he was only a dictator for a short period.

[HoundofOdin]

I was just referring to rulers of Rome from any period.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

How come no one seems to care about Octavian? Just because he was the only one smart enough to not get assassinated? Just because he wasn't weird? Just because he gave Rome peace & calm?

People are very quick to notice incompetent or totalitarian leaders, but no one appreciates a leader who just makes life easy & peaceful for people.

And I like Nero & Caligula too, but obviously I'd rather LIVE under Augustus' rule.

[Chenzhenhui]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Augustus in quite common in the history books but he is not famous because he died past his prime. Even though he gave Rome stability, he died in his seventies, nearly half a century after Actium and his reign in some ways are uneventful. He simply lived too long but at least his crimes were forgotten

[giavirtae]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder

Octavian IS augustus

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@giavirtae

Yes, I am aware of that. I just have a bad habit of using his name & his title interchangeably.

[dixon97a]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder What do you mean no one cares about him after Ceaser Octavian is the most famous Roman. . ..

[andrinho]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder He is unanimously the best roman emperor :P ( I like Trajan very much as well but hes normally placed second or third, depending on what you think of Constantino)

[andrinho]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Caligula was always loved by the mid-lower class ad below, who really hated him was the aristocracy, senate and finally the army which was the tool used to assassinate him.

[deltapunk21]

@andrinho lie everyone hated that thieving mass murdering ashat but he had ich statist friends and the guard ho decided who was in power

[andrinho]

Augustus was a brutal emperor, the way he achieved peace was by murdering everyone who opposed him, no exceptions, afterwards making him a great emperor since everyone left alive was his ally previously

[DFameSR14]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder ocatvian is augustus

[deltapunk21]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder like the pig cal and zero lol what a failed faggot you are

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@deltapunk21

Geez, you act as if Caligula actually fucked your wife at one of his dinner parties. Ease up man, it was 2,000 years ago. It didn't sound like his reign would have been fun to live under, but the stories about him are interesting. A guy who made a mockery out of anyone stupid enough to worship him...I think that's kind of cool, and a good lesson for those of us in modern times.

[madax132]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder I'd say a fair amount of people, care about him, but being a good ruler isn't looked upon as well as being a great military leader. I personally think that Marcus Aurelius was a fantastic emperor, he had political tact and risked his life in battle along with his men just to inspire them and really went from a scholarly life to be a battlefield commander and even became a successful one as he learned from his defeats instead of dwelling of them.

[imperatorcaesar100]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder I know the strange thing is that Incompetant emperors like Caligula, Nero, and Commodus are remembered by much more people, then Trajan, or Antoninus Pius. i guess it is because the bad emperors do things which are so strange, and abnormal that what they do tends to be remembered for much longer, and by more people.

[RemziiBro]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder im doing an assignment on Augustus, so i guess my teacher loves him that much :P

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@RemziiBro

yeah actual scholars of history hold him in high regard, as they should.

[RemziiBro]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder and may i add, augustus was a cunning bastard! his my new favourite !

[28october19731]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder He was the revered one...Augustus...incredible person wasn't he...

[28october19731]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder It's crazy isn't it...Augustus was essentially the most successful/forward thinking Roman leader...I guess like you were saying more time is spent taking a closer look at the bozos in history versus the brilliant ones...

[Killzoneguy117]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder I think we all would. He's regarded as one of the greatest politicians in human history. Not just for his skill on the Political Playing Field or his ability to see all that is wrong with the world and to correct it, but the fact that he did exactly what politicians are supposed to do. Exactly why we allowed such people to exist in our society. To make lives easier for us. And that is exactly what he did. We need more leaders like him. Especially now.

[HolyknightVader999]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Augustus was the first and last of Rome's decent Emperors.

[skummelhustler]

@HolyknightVader999 What about Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius, Vespasian, Diocletian, Constantine the Great, Trajan, Antoninus Pius?

[HolyknightVader999]

@skummelhustler They simply fed into a system that was becoming a monster in itself. They didn't reform the military, which continued to engage in declaring and deposing emperors and getting into civil wars. Which, in the end, exhausted the Empire to the point where when the Christians inherited it, it was already a dying husk.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@skummelhustler

All good emperors, but I guess I'm thinking in terms of his 1st century counterparts.

[skummelhustler]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Only Roman emperor not to get assassinated? Are you serious?

Have you heard about the "five good emperors"?

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@skummelhustler

As I told someone just a few comments above this one, I guess I'm thinking in terms of 1st century emperors. But still, Caligula & Nero seem to be more famous than even those guys.

[CrystalHunter1989]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Augustus was the Roman version of Pericles. Only someone like him could make the Imperial system work for the benefit of everyone else.

[Sere324nityMoon]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder Because 'Normal People' are rarely remembered. It's the sickos that grab our attention. It's the underlining fear that at any given time we could be just as crazy and as cruel as they were so we study them intently in order to avoid becoming like them.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@Sere324nityMoon

Good point.

[IceEyedBlackWolf]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder I agree.

[blakey66]

brillant leader and brillant man

[evilpiglet]

he has big ears!