Wrestling Roundtable #22 9/28/08 Part 2 - Brock Lesnar/Randy Couture

[huggeis]

Hey guys other then kurt angle .There is one guy who can equally match with brock lesnar or even better . His name is Bill Goldberg

[rawisramsey]

LOL @ Lawrence in the last second about Tim Sylvia

"I want Brock to fight him and just kill him"

I wager Brock would knock that stupid fauxhawk off Sylvia's big retarded head.

[tnafan]

and now 8 months later brock lesnar is the undisputed ufc heavyweight champion by defeating frank mir.

[LinkinSwordSlayer]

AND now on the update! Brock Lesnar defeats Randy ''The Natural'' Couture by 2nd round TKO! Brock Lesnar became the NEW UFC Heavyweight Champion! Which means Kurt Angle will be jumping ship from TNA to UFC. Congrats to Brock Lesnar. No other WWE wrestler can do what Brock did in the UFC other than possibly Kurt Angle.

[DonSangre]

Dan Severn

[grayfoks]

Kurt Angle would do well. I think Steve Blackman would aswell, him and Shamrock seemed to always look "too good" for wrestling from a martial arts point of view.

[RandomMindz]

If you get any former pro wrestler who also took REAL fighting back grounds it is EXPECTED they would do good. I expect Kurt Angle to win his first match, especially for the fact he is an olympic gold medalist. BlackMan has not wrestled in years so he ought to have trained in MMA for some time now.

What the WWE/TNA should do is hire more MMA based fighters to make things interesting.

[RandomMindz]

What I find amazing is that Bobby Lashley has just "bleed" an opponent in an MMA fight! Can hardly wait for him and Brock to square off

[BridgewatersFinest]

There's no downside from a business standpoint, or even from a fan standpoint, with doing this fight now. Randy wins, he just continues to stockpile his legacy which immediately sells his "last" two fights (as if a Couture fight needs to be sold more). Brock wins, he'll never have a bigger fight, it sets up Lesnar/Noguiera for the Undisputed title and launches him more than anybody else could. It's Warrior/Hogan all over again. As long as Brock doesn't legally change him name to "Big Thing".

[BrulesRules001]

weird

[Vikkisnake]

Will Eric have a new hairstyle when this stuff returns in a few months? I hope to God for his sake.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I hope you stop being gay about my hair, jack off

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Vikkisnake]

Sorry dude, I can't. It's too distracting. The whole "shaved undercut/long on top" thing died about six-eight years ago. And you're not built enough to pull it off and make it look cool. Perhaps hit the gym, get a tan and it might work. Otherwise you don't look credible or serious enough for this roundtable thing to work.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

This is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Go fuck yourself, faggot.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[panther2552]

UFC already has a face for the media. His name is Forest Griffith. He has great personality. Is a warrior and very intelligent. He does a great job during interviews showing the UFC isn't a human cockfight.

[mastrorj68]

so ur saying in this video you covered the fact they got 2 titles and are trying to unify them or no?

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Yes, 7:07 & 7:51

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[mastrorj68]

ok i remember that part. i guess i felt it should have stood out more cause to me its the most interesting thign going on in the UFC right now. We could have lesnar MIR 2 for the unification of the titles. That would kick ass. Nice buffer impression lol thought that was cool

[mastrorj68]

im a fan of both and know both businesses. Both art forms. i dont need to say why but i just am email me if u care to know my opinion on it. but these gys are missing the HUGE point and its that lesnar vs couture and mir vs noguera sets up to bring a legit title together. How do u miss that?! the winner of these fights will be going to decide the next TRUE h-wt champ. But either way will be interesting to watch maybe yall should stick to talking about just wrestling...

[WrestlingRoundtable]

We didn't miss that. Chris & myself were both adamant about resolving the "Interim" hw title situation. We know Dana White has called it a mini tournament w/ the two winners facing each other to resolve who's the true champion. We can't possibly cover every detail in 10 min.s but we did mention Noguiera/Mir & the Interim title(or #1 contender now, whatever Dana White decides Noguiera is on a given day), so maybe you should open your ears instead of telling us what to talk about

-E

[realfunnybunny]

lol u guys r fags.... i dunno why.... ur just a bunch of fags....wrestling fag table.... table of fags..... round table of fags..... fags fags fags fags fags

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Yeah, I can see where the 'real funny' comes from, bunny. Look, I can do it too! "fags fags fags" hardy har. Go fuck yourself, internet tough guy fag.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[StewartLucrative]

LMAO @ THE Bruce Buffer impression

[eli24128]

Yeah, I'm dying for chess to be allowed in the olympics...atleast you have to think about your next step, but if you think MMA is an artform, you are a bigger dork than you claim more to be. If you can attack your opponent when they're on the ground, than that isn't an artform, if it is, then I live in a community of hundreds of artists. Anyone can do it, maybe not as well, but it is self-defense glamorized.

[ESWEfounder]

Lesnar vs Coutre is gonna be a f****n blowout

AND im gonna pay 50.00 to see it

[eli24128]

I second that bjvsgsp everyone seems to be drinking the MMA kool-aid,I know the big names and really like Lesnar for obvious reasons and is the reason I watched the video,and there is no art to mma,that's like saying there's an art to street fighting. There is more art in pro wrestling because you have to make yourself look hurt when youre not and make you opponent look credible.The word art gets thrown around too easily and when you can hit a man on the ground,it's not a sport let alone an art.

[juantwo34567]

haha and you're one of the dorks that wants chess to be an olympic sport.

[greedypoe2008]

randy will school him on the art of mma, brock to tap out end of first or early in the second round

[bjvsgsp]

there is no fucking art of mma get you're head out of you're arse,or better still stop listening to joe rogan

[joerelle78]

this will be a good fight either way.

[Himfanmike]

I would love to see Brock take on Fedor, that would be the shit. Better yet, if only we can see him take on Quinton "Rampage" Jackson, that is my dream match.

[reh629]

when i heard the brock/couture announcement, i nearly shat myself.

logic wise this doesnt make sense. but from a fan perspective. THIS IS AWESOME!!!

HOWEVER! niether man can afford a lose.

either brock loses to a 45 year old man who was focused on a different opponent and has fought over a year.

or

couture just lost to a green behind the gills rookie.

[leconter]

I see more like Brock losing to a 12 year MMA veteran who is the current HW champion or Randy's time off hurting him and Brock really proving all his doubters wrong.

-Rodney, Wrestling Roundtable

[B44501xRacerEX]

OMG I couldnt beileve what I found on Wikipedia, it clearly states that Sable aka "Rena Mero" is married to Brock Leznar.

I'm sorry I never knew that til just now.

[B44501xRacerEX]

I dunno but I saw Tank Abbot fight in some other fight organization the other day and he got his ass beat on the first round. lol

I guess Tank Abbot was never any good in any fight organization, or wrestling either.

Ken Shamrock also has a history of losing.

He used to be bad ass, but now he's not apparently. Got whipped in UFC, now he's getting beat left and right elsewhere.

I suppose it's just age.

[leftyoublueandblack]

Dont know if this is true, but I heard that Brock signed on a for four more fights after his fight with Mir. They saw how much he drew. I heard he had 4 more fights in his contract(3 after Couture). I thought I picked that up on one of hte MMA sites out there.

Anyways, I got Couture winning by Majority vote. Then he beats Nog and then Werdum. Then all thats left is Fedor(or a rematch with a more game Lesnar).

[crawleymang]

If Lesnar loses I hope he does so in a way that people think "wow that really could've gone either way." Either that or it's one of those "controversial decisions."

But I think this fight will end by TKO stoppage.

Another Davey and Goliath story for sure.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

TKO stoppage in who's favor?

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[crawleymang]

Well I hope Brock's.

But I meant I don't see this going to a decision.

[crawleymang]

"Do the money matches now"

Truth. Couture has 2-3 fights left on his contract. And I don't think he's gonna re-sign with the UFC because he wants that Fedor fight (I don't know why after Fedor raped Sylvia).

If Couture beats everyone then leaves and Brock becomes a star, there will forever be a question mark. E said "what ifs," well that would be a what if for probably all of history.

Brock has to fight him now. The UFC's HW division is shallow on stars. Strike while the iron is hot.

[leconter]

Thank you for validating our points. I think they really lost out on some of the HW dreamfights they planned because of how unpredictable MMA is. Doing the match now makes sense.

-Rodney, Wrestling Roundtable

[WrestlingRoundtable]

We hate you too. Go kill yourself

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[ste198555]

the reason brock is fighting randy cause if brock became ufc champion with out ever fighting randy people would always say but he never beat randy so if brock beats randy the best ever ufc fighter then brock is the man

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Yeah, but you could say that about ANYBODY who doesn't fight Couture. That's why Noguiera's the "Interim Heavyweight Champion." Or now "#1 Contender" or whatever Dana White feels like deeming him at the given moment. That's why I said this whole interim Vs. real champion thing should be sorted out. It will be (winner of Nog/Mir Vs. winner of Brock/Couture), just not in the way I would have hoped.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Dante1Savage]

the host is very annoying

[WrestlingRoundtable]

So are you

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[Dante1Savage]

we know that you are e wrestling rountabe as your username states it this is one of your many annoying traits.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Learn how to fucking write a sentence, dipshit, then get back to me. Or actually, don't, if you find me so annoying! Guess you gotta stop watching the show then because there IS NO SHOW without me. So fuck off.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[bjvsgsp]

nogueria would beat brock,brock would maul him for the fight and then nogueria would pull of a triangle,I want to see couture get mangled so badly I hate him and his gay little camp and fighters like forest griffin,josh barnett would fuck couture's old face up so badly either that or snap his knee,seriously who do people even like couture?

[wartarot]

If Randy loses then he has no place in seeking a fight with Fedor. If Brock were to lose then it appears that the UFC is hyping an over rated fighter.

Fedor's fight with Herring was much more dominant, referee stoppage after the first round.

[leconter]

If Brock loses I don't think it would appear that UFC was hyping someone who is overrated. Because unlike the current Kimbo situation, Brock isn't being protected. He's accepting any challenge thrown at him and if he loses he loses to the HW champion which is nothing to be ashamed of in your 4th mma fight.

-Rodney, Wrestling Roundtable

[crawleymang]

Perfect.

For all the shit people give Brock, protected is one thing he is not. And that's something about the UFC, when they build stars they don't exactly give people cans then say they're legit.

Kimbo is a *draw*, but he's not legitimate guy who can make a serious impact on the fight game like Lesnar can.

That's why Seth ate him up. Slice just wasn't ready for that level. And at the rate he was going, wouldn't have been for a long time.

But I don't really wanna see anyone fail so...

[ringskirts]

We should do a poll for our favorite roundtable debater.

[ringskirts]

Oh man you guys were at the ROH show? Damn i didnt notice you there. I was there for my 1st ROH show.

[Juonouchithepunk]

OK guys big question, now many of you have heard rumors that Kurt Angle and Jason David Frank aka Tommy the green ranger from mmpr have been trying to start a MMA career. Now Do you think that w/ Jason's Muy Thai/martial arts history and Angle's History they have a chance to make in the Sport and Will UFC,PRIDE,DREAM,ELITEXC ETC. promote them both properly and not try to give huge protection/favoritism like they did to Kimbo Slice

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I saw Tommy's first fight, he won pretty quickly and handily. Which disappoints me since I wanted that White Ranger mother fucker to eat a nice punch in the face for taking away my Kimberly, haha. God damn, Amy Jo Johnson was SO hot! Anyway, heh, good for him. As for Angle, he might have a chance, but with his neck injury history, I don't think it'd be a wise health decision. Some promotion'll give him a chance because he'll draw, but I'm not sure how he'd do.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[popofbling]

Haber is right. Its a win win situation for Brock.

[pedicabdr1ver]

lesnar will win by f-5ing randy off the top of the octagon.

[sawyerg13]

umm wtf is with that fight anyway i mean brocks like what 1-1 in the ufc and theres an iterim champ and hes part of ultimate fighter reality show sooo like 6 months till and actually champ is decided but if brocks champ when smoke clears then he rock bottom line

[afrokidryder]

Now do i think this fight came on too earlie? Maybe, but I'M A FAN FIRST. Before i'ma business man, and i dont look at it from the standpoint of business cause IT AINT MAKIN ME money. So who should care when it happens? I dont, i just wanna see the fight. It's a great measuring stick for Brock, and i think this fight will be incredible. No matter what you think, Brock is gonna be around after this fight. He's too good for that. Also, build up in MMA and Wrestling is different for fuck sakes...

[lexer777]

lesnar will just win i would bet my pretend house on it

[WrestlingRoundtable]

haha, pretend house

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[afrokidryder]

IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS. Is this a win win for Brock? No. He HAS TO WIN, You dont get "credibility" just by saying you fought someone, if you cant beat Couture, you cant beat Couture, and people will look at that, as he'd never measure up. But if Brock wins, his star rises, and he fucks Couture's payday just like that. Couture wouldnt bounce back from that. And in a way, Brock rly cant afford to have to bounce back from a loss like that. This is his opportunity to prove that he is FOR REAL

[afrokidryder]

ENTER, Brock Lesnar though. Brock is on the fast track to UFC stardom on his name alone. But if you like me saw that Heath Herron fight. I think Brock is a BEAST, He could absolutely be the biggest name in MMA history as their greatest Heavywweght, for his all aorund skils, punching power, and dominance. He beats Couture? He's in Couture's spot as the best hands down. And he should be getting that belt, and he stands to make, LONG TERM, more money for UFC and himself than Couture possibly could.

[afrokidryder]

Taking THAT into account. If he comes into this, and beats a rising star in his own right and i'll get to him, Brock Lesnar. You saw what Brock has done. Even in three fights, the last two put no doubt in anyone's mind that Brock can be dominant for a LONG time, as a TRUE Heavywieght with his skill set. If Couture beats him, Dana White has to bring on Fedor, and that adds more hype that if they can secure that fight, two worlds colliding, legend vs legend. MORE MONEY will be made by those names

[afrokidryder]

See the thing about Randy coming into this. Couture wants, FEDOR. That's the main things he's bitched about since he won that heavyweight belt and sat out and retired, and Dana White's done everything he can to get randy back in there. The thing is. Randy is like..50 he's ancient, he's great dont get me wrong, but he's done everything there is to do, ebat everyone you can name as a heavyweight and 205 kinda guy. He is certified LEgend status. The only thing he aint done is beat Fedor

[DoNotWantToSeeCena]

WrestlingRoundtable, any thoughts on Kid Kash fighting MMA? I know he lost his first match but I heard he did alright though.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

None really, heh. Didn't see the fight. But, the more wrestlers that leave wrestling for MMA, the better :) ha, best of luck to him.

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[ivotherock7]

Mirko Filipovic Cro cop will be back in UFC aftr his Dream fights he said that but he suffered injury againts some dumb guy because he neede him in the balls for three times.I cant wait for Lesnar Coloture fight and I think that now is the time because its now or never.Kongo can gets its ass whooped later by Lesnar.I hate Kongo because he beat Mirco Cro cop and Mirko is from my country Croatia.

[bjvsgsp]

I don't think cro cop is going to be back anytime soon after the fight with overeem

[ivotherock7]

Yes he is he is fight remach on news years and a couple of fights and he is back in UFC.

[bjvsgsp]

yes but you actually have to win you're fights first hasn't been doing very well recently has he?

[ivotherock7]

Whell he is geting old but I think he can came back.

[dta333]

Tanx for the video , BTW if you invite Brock Lesnar to Wrestling Roundtable show that will be great , i really cant wait ^^ ..

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Thanks for enjoying.

-E, Wresting Roundtable

[lexer777]

you should invite a bunch of wrestlers and MMA fighters to the roundtable just say if u invite a thousand maybe 1-2 might come on ya know