1000 km Buenos Aires 1971 crash Ignacio Giunti

[videosanosoitenta]

o pior video que eu ja vi na minha vida

[eehmarie]

Ignazio, con tutto rispetto.

[torino747]

Exactamente fue culpa de Beltoise desde la curba no se ve. En el 88` corri como copiloto en tc del oeste con Oscar Piccoli de General Rodriguez en realidad no era copiloto oficial si no que en la prueba del sabado provanos el auto y Campeones nos cronometro 320 al final de recta el FORT caminaba lindo . Vuelvo al tema al salir a recta no se ve creo es un poco desnivel si ma no recuerdo .



[miguelfuriase]

Beltoise no tubo la culpa, los culpables fueron los organizadores que en el reglamento pusieron que el auto que se quedaba, para seguir en carrera debia llegar a boxes por sus propios medios,, y eso era lo que hacia el piloto Beltoise, que no se mato de milagro, yo estaba en esa tribuna y sobre el alambrado, la gente lloraba.

[eduardo140460]

Con 11 años yo estaba en esa tribuna, elogiaban el sonido del motor del matra "un violín decian) lo vi a Beltoise empujando y no se si mi estatura o la proximidad del auto al muro no me dejaron ver el choque , pero el calor de las llamas llegó a la tribuna. Despues todo fue caos. Esta es la 1° vez en 40 años que veo una filmación del accidente. Me sigue impresionando. Fue culpa de Beltoise?

[SwissTHX11384EB]

On that day the safety car was on holiday....

[torino747]

Unas de primeras carreras vista en el Autodromo de Buenos aires , el frances Beltoise se quedo sin combustible. Recuerdo que pude pomerne cerca del alambrado apemas empeso la carrera y me quede a i asta despues del accidente quede congelado cuando lo vi venir italiano el frances estaba empujando su auto el calor de la esplocion llego asta mi rostro no reaccione a nada.

[eduardo140460]

@torino747 Decime: Fue culpa de Beltoise? Era común en esa época empujar el auto para llegar a los boxes?. Segun tengo entendido la salida a la recta era ciega y despues de ese accidente se decidio modificarla.

[Mirkon177]

...sry, i know JP was pushing his car and Ignacio died! My english is bad, sorry.

[Mirkon177]

This was really bad and completely unnecessary! Poor Ignacio, had to push the car like a mule and just before the pits...! Man this is really sad, RIP Ignacio!

[ma55aracin9]

@Mirkon177 that was JP Beltoise pushing his fuel-starved Matra......

[Mirkon177]

@ma55aracin9

Oh yeah sorry, JP was what i intended to write! Thanks! Very sad story!

[ma55aracin9]

@Mirkon177 pretty terrible indeed; it started when Beltoise ran out of fuel -right in the middle of the track- and started pushing his car to the pits, an illegal move back then and now....

[indigoblue555]

Great upload. A tragedy born by several circumstances: possibly a lack of marshall's flags,a car running out of fuel, a driver pushing his car to the pits,no one helping him,Parkes' 512 going the inside line instead of going through on the right side with lot of room left (the track was 18 meters wide) and Giunti

catching up Parkes,following him closely in the airstream so with no sight of the track.Not convinced about Beltoise being entirely charged for what happened.

[mellilore]

@indigoblue555 No one helping him? To do what? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Pushing cars on track was expressly FORBIDDEN!!!!!! ... That french prick would have been stopping OUT of track, once out of fuel, and withdraw, as regulation clearly stated. Imho that's murder

[indigoblue555]

@mellilore - Back then things were different....different rules and different behaviours. The track staff just kept watching him : neither did they stop his effort nor did they help him.

That looks insane nowaday,but so it was racing in those years.Btw yellow flags were on (I didn't remember this) but I guess Parkes and Giunti didn't take much care of this.The track was extremely wide  and all drivers had already seen Beltoise action since a few laps as far as I recall.

[mellilore]

@indigoblue555 Again I do not agree: back then things were different, ok, but even back then pushing cars along the track was expressly forbidden by regulations. Beltoise shouldn't never ever had been there, as clearly stated by actual regulations, and what happened since he was there is only his fault.

[mellilore]

@mellilore And what the other drivers were supposed to do? To stop racing because a self-focused solipsistic careless prick was pushing his car against rules right in the very middle of the fast lane givin a fucc about everyone else's life?

You may say none asked them to stop, they could have just slow down... well, they already did it, but at no avail: imo Ignazio waved off parkes' tail just to have a look at where Beltoise was. Sadly in the worst instant ever

[indigoblue555]

@mellilore - I recall so many insane behaviours in those years....insane for our present standard of course. Foolish moves of any sort were largely accepted and rarely sanctioned.That's why I'd go for an unfortunate sum of circumstances causing Giunti's fatal accident. Beltoise was charged as the only guilty subject and back to the whole context in which the event took place,that was unjust omop.

That was my thought at the time and that's what I think today.

[mellilore]

@indigoblue555 I'm a big enthusiast of historic racing, nevertheless I can't recall anything similar... yet it could be my lack of knowledge. And I just can't see anyone else to be considered guilty for that mess.

It is no drama if everyone stays with its own mind

[indigoblue555]

@mellilore A pleasure discussing with mellilore though.

[mellilore]

@indigoblue555 The same to me. Cheers mate

[flitardo]

me acuerdo cuando estaba viendo esto con mi abuelo...

[ackers72]

I didnt know there was footage of this sad crash!!!

[Room335sb]

I remember the film also shows, at the beginning, the improvised F1 GP, made with regular F1 cars (except Ferraris, which were retired by the italian team in respecto to Giunti's death) and F5000 cars, held 2 weeks after the 1000 kms. shown here. Also, the film ends with a 300 Indy race in Rafaela, Santa Fe, around 350 km north of BA. Great posting!

[emilianobrus]

Yes, it is true the film ends with 300 indy race. this is a very good film

[pippopiar]

I perfectly remember that afternoon in Italy : I was 11 yo and I was on the way back from the stadium with my late father.. we stop to take some pizza home and from the radio I heard the terrible news. Giunti was my favourite F1 driver and surely a future ace with Ferrari... I hated Beltoise for that, and I still think he should have to be banned from races !!!

[PEMDS]

Fantastic and rare images, please I would like to know the name of the argentinian film and if you can make a copy for me or help me to buy it.

[emilianobrus]

The name is Piloto de Pruebas, but only show one part of race

[kevinthegos]

Where did you get this from? It's weird that its taken years to get on the net.... Thanks for posting it, amazing footage.

[emilianobrus]

Thankss, Iam from Argenitna. this is an argentinian's film wich shows part of 1000km Buenos Aires's race